Monday, December 18, 2006

Compulsory halal meat in UK schools

Cranmer is indebted to his faithful communicant Ms Dexey for bringing his attention to the fact that Reading schools are serving halal meat to their students with neither their foreknowledge nor parental approval. It is not the option to which Cranmer objects, but the compulsion. The RSPCA condemns the practice of slitting an animal's throat while it is conscious, but issues of cruelty and inhumane treatment have been completely ignored as Berkshire schools bend over backwards to accommodate the sensitivities of Islam.

The reason given is that Reading ‘has a high proportion of Muslim students’. By the same reasoning, Bradford, Oldham, Leicester, Slough, and most of London should also be serving nothing but halal meat, and now the precedent has been set, it will not be too long before the demands are made.

But Cranmer finds a flaw in this multicultural manifestation. Of course the Christians may object, and without doubt their pleas will fall on deaf ears, but the Sikhs also have cause for complaint, and they have yet to raise their voice on this matter.

Unlike Hindus, some Sikhs eat meat, not least because one of their gurus is recorded as being a hunter. Yet within the Sikh faith are the ‘kurahit’, or prohibitions, one of which is to not eat meat ‘killed in the Muslim way’. The origins, as ever, have more to do with the politics of identity, but it is a sustained article of belief for Sikhs all over the world – they are simply not permitted to eat halal meat at all. In Reading, they have been doing so without their knowledge.

Consider for one moment if these schools had been serving reconstituted pork disguised as some other meat, without the knowledge of Muslim students or parents. There would be uproar, with a high-powered delegation of ‘senior Muslims’ to Downing Street demanding national repentance and a global apology, to which the Prime Minister would doubtless acquiesce.

In this instance, the sensitivities of other faith groups and the demands of the animal rights activists are subjugated to the demands of the Muslims. Cranmer is grateful to Mr Wrinkled Weasel for his insight into the dilemma of relativism:

At the core of relativism is the pyramid of rights. Various groups vie for these rights appealing for hegemony at the expense of others in a state of flux - an amoral soup - struggling for a place at the top of the pyramid.

Cranmer is in no doubt as to which group is nearing the apex…

Muslim-only swimming in public swimming pools
The bias of the BBC towards Islam
Muslims making BBC documentaries about Jesus
The (suspended?) plans for a veiled Muslim to bring the C4 Christmas message
Trafalgar Square given over to Eid celebrations
British justice delayed as courts adjourn for Eid
The rule of law ignored as police turn a blind eye to Muslim death threats and incitements to violence
The demand from Muslim leaders for a change in British foreign policy or face the consequences
Houses built to conform to Shari’a law
Plans for a Muslim-only day at Alton Towers
Concerns that the capital city is becoming Londonistan
The mingling of minarets with Oxford’s dreaming spires,
The observations of the Church of England that Islam seeks to dominate
The Head of the British Army stating that Islam undermines our way of life
Observations in Parliament that ‘Islamism’ threatens our very existence.

Cranmer prays that they eyes of England will be opened before it is too late.


Anonymous Voyager said...

Consider also that public contracts are supposedly open to tender under EU Law. If halal meat is sourced it can only come from a restricted number of sources and the tendering process is thus subverted.

Were these contracts put out to public tender and advertised ?

What was the total number of bids received and the price spread ?

Shouldn't children be aware of what it is they are eating since Muslim children clearly are ?

18 December 2006 at 13:24  
Anonymous Oiznop said...

The problem is that once it's been introduced, it can't be withdrawn. This Islamic practice is now a permanent fixture on the UK scene - school dinners have joined the Dar Al-Islam.

18 December 2006 at 14:56  
Anonymous Voyager said...

That picture does not show children eating halal meat.........they have the happy features of they jolly complexion shows.

18 December 2006 at 16:09  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Voyager,

His Grace apologises, but could source no pictures of Muslims eating school dinners. These have the appearance of being some of the 80% of non-Muslim children in the area.

However, he asks you to consider that there is no empirical means of discovering the precise nutritional content of the foodstuffs being consumed by these happy children. They may therefore be consuming halal meat, or haram peas.

18 December 2006 at 16:17  
Blogger istanbultory said...

Your Grace,
I'm afraid it may already be too late. The Mohammedan has deeply embedded himself in British society....and has not the slightest inclination of returning to from whence he came. Nor has the majority any intention of compromising with Western civilisation or of "updating" the Koran for purposes of "fitting in". The future looks bleak. Especially while the West is so poorly led.

18 December 2006 at 16:58  
Blogger Tom Tyler said...

I agree with His Grace in that I have no objection per se to Muslim schoolchildren having the option to eat halal meat if that is what they wish. But to make this the default option for everyone, without any sort of consultation process, is not right.
The meat itself is not the issue. I am sure the children are obtaining the same nutritional value from it, whether it is halal, haram or tandoori.
Nor does there seem to be any suggestion in the Daily Mail article that any Muslims even demanded or requested this. No, it looks like this policy was introduced voluntarily by the school itself or the LEA or whomever, with the intention of seeking to avoid causing any possible offence to Muslims.
The issue, to me, seems to be that sooner or later, we are going to have to ask ourselves, "what do we wish the 'default' position of our society to be - Christianity? secularism? Islam?"

18 December 2006 at 17:06  
Anonymous Dexey said...

istanbultory said...
Your Grace,
I'm afraid it may already be too late. The future looks bleak. Especially while the West is so poorly led.

4:58 PM

I believe that these are the days when we may yet hear Drake's drum and a leader of worth, dignity and principle will emerge. They are out there somewhere.

18 December 2006 at 17:16  
Anonymous Dexey said...

Your Grace may also be interested in this:

I suggested that the Israelis be asked to move the wall to include Bethlehem in Israel as a favour to Christians, but the comment hasn't been printed.

Again, apologies for putting it here. Is there a collecting point for stories for HIs Grace to sort and collate them first?

18 December 2006 at 17:24  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Ms Dexey,

His Grace exhorts you to simply email such stories directly to him, as requested in the top-right-hand box.

You clearly are a communicant of diligence and intelligence, and are most welcome to His Grace's august blog.

18 December 2006 at 17:35  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Your Grace I remain of the view that happy children are pork-eaters but append the following morsel for your mastication:


Now with info leaflets in Polish I wonder if they realise their pork cuisine is now halal chicken ?

18 December 2006 at 17:44  
Anonymous Voyager said...



Camden 2

As long ago as last May contacts manager Ian Patterson wrote in an e-mail to top education official Yvette Stanley that: “I do not think it is widely known that Halal meat is so prevalent in the catering industry.”
He added: “I am concerned that this could become another sensitive story. We need to decide whether to make a statement.
“If we do then we may have complaints and requests to serve alternative products which would be hard for Scolarest to source without major extra costs.”
And he warned: “If we do not make a statement then it may become public at some point anyway through a school releasing the information or parents inspecting food products from kitchens.
“If so, we will be asked if we knew, how long we knew, what we were doing about it if anything.”
The eventual decision to change to non-halal meat was also kept quiet.


18 December 2006 at 17:53  
Blogger wrinkled weasel said...

It is an honour to be quoted on this important blog. My next question is about how these examples of Muslims being given precedence came to be.

Someone is making the decisions. Are they acting from personal conscience, interpretation of standing rules or merely hatred of the the status quo? Or stupidity?

It remains the case that one favours one faction at the expense of another. Whereas these bureaucrats will most certainly have had compulsory minority awareness training, have they yet been made to understand that there is a majority, and that it has a Christian world view and that because it is a majority it not only should be listened to, it is their duty as public servants to prioritise them, NOT relegate them to the status of a minority and thereby merely creating the very kind of victimisation they erroneously seek to remove.

18 December 2006 at 17:55  
Anonymous Voyager said...

I bet it is cost...........Compass says it is cheaper to serve everyone halal because it would be costly to cater for differing rather than have the picky Muslims eat pork, the indifferent Non-Muslims get halal..............and ignorance being a state of being for the soporific natives of Great Britain they never ask why pork is off the menu and tuck into their beef sausages and halal chicken

18 December 2006 at 18:18  
Blogger istanbultory said...

While we may focus on marginalia, the Mohammedan never loses sight of the bigger picture and his long-term goal....

18 December 2006 at 18:33  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Istanbultory,

It was for this reason that His Grace juxtaposed the relative trivia of halal meat with a significant list of fairly weighty evidence. When one peruses the not inconsiderable cumulative evidence, a certain pattern may be those who have eyes.

18 December 2006 at 18:37  
Blogger istanbultory said...

True enough, Your Grace. But what if our compatriots choose wilful ignorance, the comforts of moral relativism and crass materialism, ....and avert their gaze from that which they ought to be focused on? What will become of us then?

18 December 2006 at 18:45  
Anonymous Colin said...

Buccaneer has an interesting comment at Brusselsjournal:

"I always thought that animal rights (like anasthesia before butchering) was considered a great achievement by the West. But obviously it seems to be just a hindrance to the ideal multiculture. Maybe like gay and women's rights? Don't seem to fit neither into the multi (= muslim?) culture. What about Hindu sensitivities by the way? To a lot of them cows are holy, so I suppose beef is also banned from schools' dinners? But probably it isn't.. Maybe because Hindus lack the track record of "peaceful" protests"

And Dchamil comments: "Schools thought it was the appropriate choice... Of course, schools do not think. The decision was made by certain executives in the schools, whose names will probably not be revealed, now that there has been an outcry."

Is it possible for His Grace to find out the name of the executive responsible for discriminating against Hindu, Christian and Jewish pupils? His discriminatory practices are clearly a violation of the anti-discrimination laws of the EU. From the biannual newsletter of the EU which reviews the Community Action Programme to combat discrimination:

"The move by the European Parliament and representatives of the EU's national governments means that 2007 has now been officially designated as the European Year of Equal Opportunities for All – and that preparations at national and local level can begin in earnest...Although the EU enjoys one of the most comprehensive sets of laws against discrimination in the world, greater efforts are needed to make equal opportunities a reality. The 2007 European Year aims to give that extra impetus. The Year will be based around four key themes, which also represent its main objectives:

Rights - Raising awareness of the right to equality and non-discrimination;
Representation - Stimulating debate on how to increase the participation in society of groups exposed to discrimination;
Recognition - Highlighting the contribution that people can make to society and celebrating the benefits of diversity;
Respect - Promoting good relations between people in our societies."

I am afraid the executive will have to stand trial, since forcing certain religious groups to eat meat not in accordance with there religious beliefs, is an infringement of the Respect objective.

18 December 2006 at 19:30  
Anonymous Colin said...

You just have to love the antidiscrimination laws of the EU. Here from its antidiscrimination website:

"New laws prohibit discrimination, harassment and victimisation of employees on the grounds of racial or ethnic origin, disability, age, sexual orientation and religion or belief. Used positively they can help all organisations improve their performance."

Probably, the BBC will have to 'improve' its performance by hiring deaf-mute news presenters, the army by fighting with centenarian soldiers, and the CoE by employing catholic priests.

18 December 2006 at 19:54  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

Monty Python knew about food.

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18 December 2006 at 20:31  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

Yes, Your Grace. And your list is only a part of the potential list.

It's all going to end in tears, because we who live down here at the bottom of the heap are getting sick and tired of it.

Islamic - and Nu-Labour - tears.

18 December 2006 at 20:34  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

And surely of major concern to you Your Grace:

Muslim burials (unless extra payment is made)

18 December 2006 at 20:37  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace,

In the "league table" of minority rights, you have implicitly and quite rightly identified that in order to make way, women and gays are the new minority filter feeders who must shut up about their rights, whilst other minorities have carte blanche to behave as they like- because it is their culture.

What makes me laugh / despair are the cultural relativists who identify themselves as "liberals".

18 December 2006 at 20:43  
Anonymous Voyager said...

"New laws prohibit discrimination, harassment and victimisation of employees on the grounds of racial or ethnic origin, disability, age, sexual orientation and religion or belief. Used positively they can help all organisations improve their performance."

This is merely an addition to the principle that lack of competence is no impediment to continued employment or promotion

18 December 2006 at 20:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've missed another little transformation/capitulation - one which, indeed, combines this story with the Muslim takeover of Oxford (the city and University).

This is breathtaking. At what point will people stand up and shove back - or are we going to die by inches?

19 December 2006 at 01:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Try here:

19 December 2006 at 01:04  
Blogger Tom Tyler said...

“Halal is the best method of slaughter for animals and humans alike", says Hassan Malik, outgoing President of the Islamic society, in that article.

Indeed, Mr Malik, indeed.

19 December 2006 at 04:03  
Anonymous VOyager said...

Try this

19 December 2006 at 08:19  
Anonymous Voyager said...

What is rather amusing is that because these Muslims in areas like Camden taking school meals are Somali and Bangladeshi they are likely recipients of free school meals...........yet by virtue of this it will become an exclusively Muslim dining experience leading non-Muslims to eat sandwiches hopefully with pork filling

19 December 2006 at 08:25  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Reading has apparently been feeding halal meat in schools for 17 years...............attentive parents clearly noticed their children were not eating pork

19 December 2006 at 11:26  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Queen, clearly terrified at the prospect of prosecution for the murder of Princess Di, and acting on the advice of Blair has sought support of Bush for a constitutional coup against Brown. Blair had assured her that with Scarletts support he would ease out Brown and install Hilary Benn who had indicated immunity from prosecution for her.Our Prime minister is illegally tampering with your mail so a copy is preserved.Our Prime minister and his information and broadcasting minister are recipients of huge sums of money from Blair to block my mail.I really think you and a few MPs could come to India to find out what is going on. Suggest you ring up a few opposition MPs.Its very big. Big enough to hang for.There is one other email theif and thats Bill Gates.I have copies.

9 May 2007 at 01:13  
Blogger Eat Halal said...

There is a new Blog about Halal / Haram issues be sure to check out:

Eat Halal

3 March 2008 at 20:36  
Anonymous Tim said...

Good Job!: )

11 July 2008 at 12:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting, isn't it, that when there's only a low, but finite, proportion of muslim children in any given area, the shrill demand is that their "religious rights" be catered for, as an oppressed minority. However, when the shoe is on the other foot, and there's a "high proportion" of muslim children, then "economies of scale" are then advanced as the prime policy movers, and that it's not economically viable to offer alternatives to the minority.

What does that say about our government? Plenty, really. It also says that muslims are a whole lot less oppressed than they consider they are....or would like the rest of us to think they are.

But, then politicians are scared witless of islam. In their ranks (but by no means all, or even a majority, perish the thought) they have people who hate the UK state, (but are happy to sponge off it) and even more happy to blow it up.

So they get their way. Other minorities, like ethnic Chinese, Hindus, protestant Christians, well, they can just go hang. I see I've just advocated a policy of violence. Well, alas, it seems to work well here. The IRA, after all, did succeed in bombing their way to the negotiating table. I'm sure than islam can do no less.

16 December 2008 at 15:20  

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