Monday, January 29, 2007

Bolton bans Holocaust Memorial Day

The European Commission is supporting a German proposal to push through new rules which would make denying the Holocaust a crime all over the European Union. Yet while the EU moves towards a union-wide prohibition, there is already a corner of this blessed plot where mention of it is being - how shall Cranmer put it - ‘discouraged’?

Bolton Council has replaced Holocaust Memorial Day with Genocide Memorial Day, which is the stated policy of the Muslim Council of Britain. This is to ensure the inclusion of other human tragedies in the world, but in particular ‘the genocide of Palestinians by the Israelis’.

If one happens to be a Jew in Bolton, or a Christian, or kaffir generally, your views have not been sought, and your opinions are not required. Mohammedan pressure demanded a change, so a change was wrought. The council said the decision was made ‘in consultation with the town's Interfaith Council’, but Rabbi Joseph Lever, who has participated in the Bolton event in previous years, was not consulted on the decision, and he ‘mourns’ its eradication. Louis Rapaport, president of the Jewish Representative Council of Greater Manchester, has stated unequivocally that the Jewish community was not consulted. He said: ‘I can't help feeling the decision was influenced by Bolton's large Muslim community’.

The Dar al-Islam does not recognise any ‘interfaith council’, and neither does it recognise the Jewish holocaust. Its truth is immutable, and its history inviolable. Anything which does not accord with its politico-theology is purged: if necessary, gradually, but certainly most thoroughly. When a battle has been won in the Dar al-Harb, the territory belongs to the Dar al-Islam. There may be no reversion without Jihad, and Jihad will be waged until there is victory.

Bolton has just ended commemoration of Holocaust Memorial Day for ever.

Cranmer asks his communicants to forgive a little mischievous thought… But might it not be a lesser evil to support the European Commission’s proposals to outlaw holocaust denial, just to see how they handle the millions of holocaust-denying Mohammedans all over the EU?

Or might the Mohammedans seek and be awarded exemption from such a law…

27 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

'mohammedan' is a term usually used to imply the worship of Muhammad by muslims, like Christ is worshipped by Christians. It would therefore be very much appreciated if you could use the term muslim instead.

29 January 2007 at 19:12  
Anonymous kuffaar said...

From http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_persecution_of_hindus/index.html

Historian Will Durant wrote in his book The Story of Civilization:
"The Mohammadan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."
The bit about "multiplying within" makes my blood run cold.

29 January 2007 at 19:19  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

By your leave, Your Grace ...

Anonymous: you assume that your appreciation will be appreciated. You assume much.

And does 'Muslim' imply the worship of Mus?

The estimated genocidal death toll from Islam is between 70-100 million, generally settled as 80 million. The Armenian genocide something like 1.5 million; Zoroastrians virtually eliminated; two million deaths in S. Sudan; deaths in Darfur at 200,000 and ongoing. Wherever Islam goes it rides a pale horse. Will that, and the genocides Islam is responsible for be commemorated on this Mohammedan inspired 'Genocide Day'?

Islam gets no sympathy from me for its offended feelings.

If Your Grace is offended, please proffer a little Christian forgiveness; a concept not generally within the Mohammedan behavioural range.

29 January 2007 at 21:00  
Blogger alecto said...

All is not lost: according to the Bolton Evening News Holocaust Memorial Day will be back next year: http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/boltonnews/display.var.1153196.0.council_boss_says_sorry_over_holocaust_service_decision.php#comments

29 January 2007 at 21:01  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

Correction:

2 ... genocidal death toll in India is estimated ... "

I apologise; my anger gets the better of me on occasion.

29 January 2007 at 21:02  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Sir Henry,

His Grace exhorts all of his communicants to ignore anonymice.

If they have neither the courage to post in their own name, nor the imaginative creativity to call themselves 'Brian' or 'Chloe' or some such, they are simply not worth bothering with.

Mr Alecto,

His Grace welcomes you to his august blog of intelligence and erudition.

He is deeply appreciative of the link to the Bolton News, which appears to indicate that Holocaust Memorial Day will indeed be reinstated next year (presumably, that is, if Cllr Cliff Morris is Leader of the Council next year).

The direct link is to be found here

29 January 2007 at 22:34  
Blogger David Ould said...

your Grace,

Absolutely love the blog and have pinched (with obligatory hat-tip) a number of items.

But can I agree with the request re the label "Mohammedan". Muslims reject such a term and it is, technically, incorrect. Let's show these people the grace that they rarely show us. Turn the other cheek and walk the extra mile.

29 January 2007 at 23:24  
Anonymous Brian said...

Your Grace,

I would propose that the term 'Mohammedan' is technically correct. They worship a brothel-keeper in the sky who is a cosmic projection of Mohammed's swollen ego. Allah is not God. Allah is a vicious, lying, ruthless reflection of Mohammed's attempt to project his inadequate personality beyond his death (and subsequent descent into Hell) . Different cultures have slightly different views of God, but only the Mohammedans have a God who can be 'humiliated' by Danish cartoonists.

30 January 2007 at 00:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idea that Israel has committed genocide against the Palestinians, is an idea that debases the word Genocide.

Genocide was legally defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide. To save reproduction in full, the definition can be found here: http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext.htm

The short version is that the perpetrator must have the intent to destroy the group that is the victim, and they must act on that intent. The mere killing people, even in large numbers is not enough.

Whilst it is undeniable that Palestinians have suffered from the occupation, the fact that their numbers multiply, whilst Israel has a number of times, tried to find a settlement, illustrates why this issue has nothing to do with genocide. Israel has the power and could easily wipe out large chunks of Palestinian life. It has not done so.

I would be very interested to see a comparison between the number of Palestinians killed in the last 60 years by Israeli forces, and the number of Sudanese killed in Darfur in the past couple of years. I am sure that it would be enlightening.

30 January 2007 at 07:08  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Server problems inhibited my posting last night but I would note that the MP for Bolton West is Ruth Kelly.

What the EU fails to recognise is that it makes perfect sense for France and Germany and Austria to have legislation preventing successor parties to organisations such as Croix de Feu and NSDAP from propagating counterfactual history on the Holocaust.

It was a previous German Govt which instigated mass-murder on a grand scale in Europe, and it was a French Govt which assisted in rounding up and incarcerating and then incinerating people having transported them in trains owned by Deutsche Reichsbahn and SNCF.

At this time Great Britain was fighting a war against these very regimes which as a by-product had the result of ending these deportations and murders and of exposing to the world what had taken place since France surrendered in May 1940 and which might well not have continued for 5 long years had France not surrendered.

I see absolurely no reason to commemorate a Holocaust Day as such but I fully understand why Germany and France feels they should...I think VE Day could be a good EU Festival to celebrate the Allied Lberation of Europe from the Forces of Darkness

30 January 2007 at 07:27  
Blogger alecto said...

I trust Your Grace will not be offended if I point out that Alecto is female. She is the leader of the Furies or Erinyes, also known by their propitiatory name of Eumenides or Kindly Ones, who in Greek mythology were the avengers of crime, especially crime against the family. It seemed an appropriate choice for my previous posting on your blog about Austen Ivereigh (where is he now?).

30 January 2007 at 07:41  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Miss Alecto,

His Grace always treads carefully before presuming and apportioning gender. It appears to be 'mode' for men to assume female names, which doubtless accords with the androgenous tendencies of society.

Austen Ivereigh has fallen off the radar, possibly running an adoption agency somewhere, and the Cardinal is doubtless missing him.

30 January 2007 at 12:53  
Anonymous Colin said...

"might it not be a lesser evil to support the European Commission’s proposals to outlaw holocaust denial, just to see how they handle the millions of holocaust-denying Mohammedans all over the EU?"

In principle, His Grace is right. However, once free speech has been denied for a certain area, other areas will certainly follow and the end result is the abolishment of free speech, i.e. the end of Western democracy.

30 January 2007 at 13:46  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

"When a battle has been won in the Dar al-Harb, the territory belongs to the Dar al-Islam. There may be no reversion without Jihad." So the Mahometans follow the same principle as the EU with its racheting up of the "acquis communautaire". Is that where they got the idea.

30 January 2007 at 16:42  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

I meant, is that where the EU got the idea?

30 January 2007 at 17:57  
Anonymous Miss Jelly Bean said...

Cranmer, I must recomend you the occasional shave. WOH that beard's lomg!!!

By the way Mr Brian, your comments seem to be a little harsh on the request of anonymous. I can understand that you feel vehemence towards Islam but honestly, I don't feel that any of your remarks have been made through rational thinking. You sound like a person whose only motive is to criticise another's religion rather than to debate in a reasonable manner. Take a chill pill and cool of buddy!! Getting angry on such remarks makes you sound like an ignorant freak who feels no need to justify his views through logistical reasoning (no offence).

30 January 2007 at 21:07  
Anonymous Miss Jelly Bean said...

"WOH THAT BEARD'S LOMG!!!"

SORRY, I meant 'LONG'!

30 January 2007 at 21:11  
Anonymous Colin said...

Jelly Bean,

"WOH that beard's long!!!"

Look beyond the surface and discover his beautiful soul!

BTW, how long is your beard or moustache? :-)

30 January 2007 at 21:59  
Anonymous Oswald said...

Brian said:
"a cosmic projection of Mohammed's swollen ego. Allah is not God. Allah is a vicious, lying, ruthless reflection of Mohammed's attempt to project his inadequate personality beyond his death"
Thank you Brian, you've summarised what I've been thinking for some time. A ruthless person wishing to preserve his position of power, invents his own 'religion', some of it so obviously copied from Christian and Jewish belief to give it some credence. However, the violence against all opposition and treatment of women promoted therein suggest that these are the beliefs of a sinful human, not the words of any God.

30 January 2007 at 23:10  
Anonymous Justin said...

Your Grace, do you know which political party runs Bolton Council?

Blessings,

J.

30 January 2007 at 23:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic

from http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/01/logistics-of-bribery.html

"anon said...
The noun "Islamophobia" implies an irrational fear of Islam and is frequently used to smear persons who actually have a rational fear of Islam. In the interest of countering this propaganda, I have coined the term "islamoprudentia" (note the deliberate lower case first 'i') to describe what people with common sense feel about Islam, i.e., prudence in the face of danger. The Latin meaning of prudentia:
(1) foresight
(2) wisdom
(3) discretion
Taken from the Latin dictionary at http://www.sunsite.ubc.ca/LatinDictionary/HyperText/p.html
I hope this is useful and that you will disseminate usage of this term widely."

I thought your readers might be interested as the term "islamoprudentia" strikes me as being rather useful particularly if it becomes widespread.

31 January 2007 at 00:33  
Anonymous Tejus said...

the holocaust was unfortunate.. but your grace in my opinion the only to keep these radicals quiet is to ignore them no matter how atrocious the crimes they may try commint.. that way when no one responds.. they will calm down.. for the food they live on is after all the attention of other people..

31 January 2007 at 03:05  
Anonymous also Tejus said...

brian..
i see what u are tryin to say but nonetheless I must say that your views project to the world at large your rather shallow mindset.. perhaps u may care to elaborate or rather give the reasoning behind ur rather obscure views?

31 January 2007 at 03:09  
Anonymous Voyager said...

the holocaust was unfortunate.

Not many people in The West ascribe the processed murder and destruction of millions of human beings in abattoirs and then cremation pits as being a product of "misfortune"...you evidently do.

Some of us consider the use of the word unfortunate to be somewhat apologetic

31 January 2007 at 08:32  
Anonymous Tejus said...

voyager..
apologies.. did not intend to sound that way..

31 January 2007 at 11:59  
Anonymous brian said...

Tejus,
Regarding my 'rather shallow mindset' concerning Allah, perhaps we should refer back to the koran as the primary source of illumination on this Babylonian Moon Demon:

"Whatever the case, whatever the explanation, this point stands out clearly: Satan accused Allah of being a perverter, a misleader, with the Quran agreeing that this is what Allah truly is, going so far as to boast that Allah is actually the best schemer/deceiver of them all!"

Read in context at

http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_deceiver.htm

31 January 2007 at 23:15  
Blogger Jeremy Jacobs said...

Nicely put voyager. "Tejus" needs to learn a thing or two.

Elsehwere last week, another Muslim group involved themselves with HMD. Most Muslims, like any other group of people, are perfectly decent law-abiding citizens. It's the evil minority (like the MCB) that get the headlines.

1 February 2007 at 23:37  

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