Saturday, April 28, 2007

Canterbury hit by earthquake

And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. (Rev 8:5).

At 8.20am this morning, an earthquake with a magnitude of 4.7 on the Richter scale shook the spiritual centre of England. Houses in Kent swayed from left to right, walls cracked, chimneys fell, and people were thrown out of their beds. There are reports of widespread chaos.

The centre of the quake was near to Canterbury. Is the Lord somehow displeased with Archbishop Rowan Williams? The earthquake has echoes of the lightning that hit York Minster after a sermon given by the then Bishop of Durham, David Jenkins. Thou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. (Isaiah 29:6).

The Bible talks much of God using earthquake, storm, famine and pestilence to bring judgement, but does he still?

PS
Cranmer actually knows that Folkestone was damaged rather more than Canterbury, but the post is just a little more interesting if one talks about God's judgement upon the Church of England than upon the parliamentary constituency of the Rt Hon Michael Howard QC MP...

23 Comments:

Anonymous Voyager said...

On 7th February 1992 the Treaty of Maastricht was signed

On 13 April 1992 I experienced an earthquake epicentre Maastricht

28 April 2007 at 11:25  
Anonymous Miss Jelly bean said...

cranmer said...
"The centre of the quake was near to Canterbury. Is the Lord somehow displeased with Archbishop Rowan Williams?"

Not necessarily. Would you consequently claim that the earthquake in America was due to Bush waging war on Iraq? But then how would one justify the earthquake in kashmir? I don't think the Kashmiries are in any position to wage war on anyone. The poor souls find it hard enough surviving under the corrupt Pakistani dictatorship as it were.

Sometimes God inflicts hardship and calamities upon mankind not to punish them, but to remind them and warn them. You yourself believe Jesus was painfully killed for the sins of mankind, and yet you would claim him to be God's most beloved. Just like that, many prophets suffered hardship like John the Baptist (prophet Yahya) who was beheaded, yet they were God's chosen ones.

Then again, I would hardly place Rowan Williams on the same level as God's messengers (essentially becase I'm not a Christian), but such earthquakes could be for mankind as a whole to learn from. when we fight and kill one another and go astray from God's teachings, he reminds us of his existance and that he is continuously watching over us.

28 April 2007 at 13:45  
Anonymous Observer said...

Would you consequently claim that the earthquake in America

What earthquake ?

28 April 2007 at 15:56  
Anonymous billy said...

I can't believe that the Lord was displeased with the Archbishop's article in last week's Sunday Times.

He was probably aiming for Brighton.

28 April 2007 at 18:47  
Anonymous billy said...

Miss Jelly bean said...
I don't think the Kashmiries are in any position to wage war on anyone. The poor souls find it hard enough surviving under the corrupt Pakistani dictatorship as it were.
1:45 PM

Where is there a muslim regime that isn't corrupt?

28 April 2007 at 18:50  
Blogger Sir Henry Morgan said...

Careful Billy, we're not exactly squeaky clean ourselves are we.

And everyone knows my attitude towards Islam ...

28 April 2007 at 19:42  
Anonymous Steven_L said...

'But then how would one justify the earthquake in kashmir?' (miss jelly bean)

Easy, they are followers of a false prophet.

28 April 2007 at 19:49  
Anonymous Miss Jelly bean said...

sorry, I meant hurricane, not earhtquake that hit America!

As for the comment made by Steven, it's ironic that you think every single inhabitant in Kashmir is a Muslim. I think all the Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs, etc will find your comment quite offensive.

28 April 2007 at 20:21  
Anonymous hypocentre said...

Last time there was a major earthquake in the Dover Straits (6th April 1580) two people were killed in a church in Newgate by falling masonry.

28 April 2007 at 22:32  
Blogger Brituncula said...

Well, theoretically I suppose we're in line for punishment for refusing to evangelise Muslims.

"as the same end of the world approaches, many things are at hand which were not before, viz. changes of air, and terrors from heaven, and tempests out of the order of the seasons, wars, famines, plagues, earthquakes in several places"

29 April 2007 at 01:01  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, theoretically I suppose we're in line for punishment for refusing to evangelise Muslims.


Teaching them to read and write would probably do it

29 April 2007 at 07:25  
Anonymous billy said...

Miss Jelly bean said...
sorry, I meant hurricane, not earhtquake that hit America!

Typo?

As for the comment made by Steven, it's ironic that you think every single inhabitant in Kashmir is a Muslim. I think all the Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Sikhs, etc will find your comment quite offensive.

Other than the Christians they are al following false gods.

29 April 2007 at 12:23  
Anonymous billy said...

Sir Henry Morgan said...
Careful Billy, we're not exactly squeaky clean ourselves are we.
And everyone knows my attitude towards Islam ...
7:42 PM

I wasn't making comparisons; just asking for information, Sir Henry.

29 April 2007 at 12:26  
Blogger tim said...

Was there any physical damage to Canterbury Cathedral?

The first in that area in over 425 years! Whether or not it really was divine retribution, these kinds of natural disasters can still be cause for useful introspection.

29 April 2007 at 13:32  
Anonymous Colin said...

Miss Jelly Bean,

"But then how would one justify the earthquake in kashmir?"

"he reminds us of his existance and that he is continuously watching over us."

Is is possible that he (or she?) might be displeased with Miss Jelly Bean from Kashmir? I am worried and shall pray for you.

29 April 2007 at 16:01  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Miss Jelly Bean is most probably from Chinese-Occupied Kashmir

29 April 2007 at 16:23  
Anonymous Miss Jelly Bean said...

billy said...
"Other than the Christians they are al following false gods."

typo?

Colin, thank you for your prayers, but I never excluded myself from the posibility of being under Allah's wrath.

29 April 2007 at 16:27  
Blogger Liberal Republican said...

I live in Canterbury, it wasn't that bad. Woke me up, but I dont think God was bringing judgement to Canterbury

29 April 2007 at 23:53  
Anonymous The Clarendon Code said...

Woke me up, but I dont think God was bringing judgement to Canterbury

What faith gives you such certainty ?

30 April 2007 at 10:11  
Anonymous Colin said...

Miss Jelly Bean,

"Colin, thank you for your prayers.. Don't mention it.

"I never excluded myself from the posibility of being under Allah's wrath."

Hhmm, you seem to have been a naughty girl. Have you purposefully "forgotten" to put on your hijab to catch a glimpse of a forbidden world?

O tempora, o mores!

30 April 2007 at 20:18  
Anonymous Miss Jelly bean said...

you're a very cheeky boy, Colin. Jelly Bean does not expose herself in public.

30 April 2007 at 20:41  
Anonymous Colin said...

Miss Jelly Bean,

Cheeky or not, I am worried by this revelation: 'Head scarf was ancient sex symbol':

"Ms. Cig, a reputed specialist in Sumerian culture and history, had been accused for stating that the Islamic-style head scarf had been a sex symbol in pre-Islamic times. 5,000 years ago, she asserted in a scientific paper, a head scarf had been the identification sign of the temple priestess who had ritual sex with young men to celebrate fertility. Therefore it was not very suitable to indicate a woman's morality today, she concluded."

30 April 2007 at 22:33  
Anonymous Colin said...

Miss Jelly Bean,

On the other hand, I fear for your life if you don't wear the hijab because in Pakistan: Minister and fighter for women’s rights was killed by fanatic:

"Zilla Huma Usman, 35, Pakistani minister and fighter for women’s rights, has been shot dead by an Islamic fundamentalist... The assassin, Mohammad Sarwar, is a stone mason in his mid forties, who seems not to belong to any fundamentalist outfit, but is known for his fanatism. After his arrest, he appeared relaxed and calm when he told a television channel that he had carried out God’s order to kill women who sinned. “I have no regrets. I just obeyed Allah’s commandment,” he said, adding that Islam did not allow women to hold positions of leadership. He also criticized that the minister did not obey the Islamic dress code and wore no veil. “I will kill all those women who do not follow the right path, if I am freed again,” he said...The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan in a recent report said that violence against women had increased alarmingly, with some of the incidents incited by Mullahs opposed to women’s emancipation."

I don't envy you, Miss Jelly Bean, for having to live in a situation of oppression risking your life if you don't follow the right path. Unsuprisingly, this leads to the Stockholm syndrome to make the situation more bearable.

30 April 2007 at 23:05  

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