Thursday, July 12, 2007

Barroso: ‘the EU is an Empire’

It is official. In what was either the greatest gaffe of the 50-year-old European project, or simply a statement of fact of what everyone has suspected for rather a long time, the President of the EU Commission has declared that the European Union is an empire, and (according to the Daily Express) this empire will 'rule over Britain'. And if the EU is an empire, this Brussels bureaucrat must be the emperor, at least until the imminent ‘Reform Treaty’ bestows upon the Empire its first political emperor. President Barroso’s precise words:

(Hat-tip to EU Referendum for the graphic)
Sometimes I like to compare it to compare the EU as a creation to the organisation of empires. We have the dimension of Empire but there is a great difference. Empires were usually made with force with a centre imposing diktat, a will on the others. Now what we have is the first non-Imperial empire. We have 27 countries that fully decided to work together and to pool their sovereignty. I believe it is a great construction and we should be proud of it. At least, we in the Commission are proud of it.

Cranmer has believed this for some time. Much has been written on the eschatological need for a 'Last Days' empire (not that Cranmer necessarily agrees with any of it), and also on the parallels between the EU and former European empires, especially those of Charlemagne and the Hapsburgs. And noting that Reich translates straightforwardly as ‘empire’, it is conceivable that President Barroso is talking of the Sacrum Romanum Imperium Nationis Germanicae, but simply doesn’t know it. But this is not the first time he has used the word. In previous speeches he has referred to ‘an empire of law’, and he has also previously referred to ‘a new and better European political order’ which must be used ‘to create a new and better global order’.

But it is the phrase ‘non-Imperial empire’ which Cranmer finds interesting. In saying that empires were usually made with force with a centre imposing diktat, Presdent Barroso seemingly ignores that the European empire is being created by this precise mechanism, albeit through smoke and mirrors. It may be an empire made without armed force, but it is certainly not being constructed with popular consent. Choosing to ignore the results of free, democratic referenda manifestly amounts to forcible imposition.

Mark Francois MP, the Conservative's shadow Europe minister, responded: ‘The British public will be surprised to hear that we are now part of an EU empire… anyone who thinks that we have been exaggerating in calling for a referendum on a revived constitution only has to look at what Mr Barroso has said to realise the scale of what is now being contemplated.’

It is not unreasonable to suggest that, in the absence of a referendum on this ‘Reform Treaty’, that dissent may ensue. We are already being told that it is a fait accompli, that there are no more negotiations to be had, and that member states should not request them. If this Napoleonic proclamation is not a diktat, what is?


Anonymous Voyager said...

Empires were usually made with force with a centre imposing diktat

That much is untrue. The nature of empires was that they existed in an era of poor communications - Caesar wrote his Gallic Wars but I doubt many in Rome had any contemporaneous accounts - nor did Madrid learn much about Cortez....and even Great Britain will have been hard-pressed to know what Warren Hastings and Robert Clive were doing...and as for Khartoum, it is clear Gladstone had no policy on the Mahdi save to wash his hands of everything, and at Isandlwana LOndon was unaware of what happened or at Rorke's Drift.

The whole nature of Empire was that it gave great discretion to the men on the ground - there was NO central diktat - in fact Barroso is thinking of The Russian Empire rather than maritime empires......and that is the key.

The Mackinder Doctrine concerns land mass not sea power...and that is why Britain thinks in terms of maritime empire and people like Barroso think in terms of Napoleon's Continental System and the consolidated land mass as a unitary entity.

Thus Britain thinks in terms of Trade and the others think in terms of consolidation and Political Union and Imperial Capital.

12 July 2007 at 11:40  
Anonymous Voyager said...


Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland
Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island
Who rules the World-Island commands the world

12 July 2007 at 11:42  
Anonymous Sir HM said...

Your Grace:

You mention Dissent. I suppose that's one way of putting it.

Here's what the fragrant Margot had to say about even discussion:

"" Some Eurosceptics of course hope that the challenge of informing citizens and engaging citizens about and in such a complex issue as a treaty can be turned into a weapon that can kill further European integration. But I do not think we should allow that. ""

" But I do not think we should allow that" !!!!

So what would she do with real out on the street in your face ... er ... dissent? I think she ought to tell us.

Perhaps she could do it as pillow talk whilst engaging in the horizontal debate I would like to have with her. Er ... just out of spite on my part you understand. Honest injun.

12 July 2007 at 12:02  
Blogger Jomo said...

"Ever Closer Union" has always been the aim of the eurocrats. The British political elite think they can benefit financially from involvement, while avoiding the logical conclusion of the endless treaties implemented to increase the "efficiency" of decision making.

National independence will come at a cost. The European social model relies on generous welfare payments to mask economic reality. The people have been conned into believing this can go on for ever. Meanwhile we continue to outsource our industrial and commercial base to China and India.

Unfortunately, there is no political will to change the present arrangements. If a crisis does come, the country may not even have the productive resources to defend itself.

European region(s) or 51st state look like the only alternatives left unless someone starts to say no!

12 July 2007 at 13:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brasso: ‘the EU is an Empire’

12 July 2007 at 18:55  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

If we are denied our legitimate right to decide our collective future,and the future of our country, then we are under no obligation to abide by these imposed diktats, it is high time that supposedly "free men" started behaving as such,stopped crippling thier powers of decision by endless pointless waffle and took direct action against the traitors that would happily sell us all into slavery,we can not be enslaved without our complicity,the people are soverign and have an inalienable right to self determination,how much longer will you ask the tyrant if you are allowed to do this or that, the power is yours, you only need to take it!

12 July 2007 at 19:48  
Anonymous The recusant said...

Mr Voyager,

With Your Graces leave, as a Lutheran and a Germanphile I believe this will be of particular interest to you:

From CFNews: Paul Belien, in the Brussels Journal of June 25, 2007, writes : 'Last week, a German court sentenced a 55-year old Lutheran pastor to one year in jail for volksverhetzung' (incitement of the people) because he compared the killing of the unborn in contemporary Germany to the holocaust. Next week, the Council of Europe is going to vote on a resolution imposing Darwinism as Europe's official ideology. The European governments are asked to fight the expression of creationist opinions, such as young earth and intelligent design theories. According to the Council of Europe these theories are 'undemocratic' and 'a threat to human rights.'

12 July 2007 at 21:34  
Blogger Harry Hook said...

Voyager wrote:
"and at Isandlwana LOndon was unaware of what happened or at Rorke's Drift."

London??? Lord Chelmsford didn't even know what was going on. This may have been due to his medication, or not enough points on his Orange PAYG mobbie.

I'm with 'Englishman' on this one.
"The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree." ~Thomas Campbell

12 July 2007 at 22:40  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Well that is amusing because in Germany the Hesse Education Minister (CDU) wants schools to teach Creationism as part of the Biology course and the Protestant Church is opposed - the Roman Catholic Bishop of Augsburg is in favour


Hesse 2

and the Hesse Education Minister Karin Wolff is a Protestant and former registered RE Instructor in schools and has just outed herself as a lesbian

As for The Council of Europe it consists of 48 states and I doubt Poland and Turkey would let anything pass than bound them to any imposed line

12 July 2007 at 22:52  

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