Thursday, September 13, 2007

EU policing - a portent of things to come?



This disturbing video is evidence, if any were needed, of Belgium’s ideological policing. A September 11th demonstration against the ‘Islamisation of Europe’, which was to include a minute’s silence to remember the 3000 victims of that atrocity, was banned by Brussels’ mayor, Freddy Thielemans. He was, it appears, concerned that Muslims might be offended.

Despite the ban, over 200 Belgians gathered for a peaceful demonstration, and they were joined by a number of MEPs and other politicians. It is reported that the police initiated violence without provocation. According to one eye-witness:

I personally witnessed and photographed the officer who appeared to be coordinating the assaults on people. This officer was busy throughout the encounter and was seen and photographed maneuvering frequently between groups of uniformed police and communicating with unknown others whereupon he re-directed the troops to another snatch operation against identified targets ... it was fascinating to watch and he became appallingly clumsy, predictable and blase about his nefarious actions - he obviously was having a really thrilling 'boys day out' telling 'the lads' who to pounce on next - a real hardline bully.

I witnessed first hand the un-provoked and un-warranted assaults on peaceful participants and stood near groups of armed officers waiting for their instructions listening to them in 4 separate locations whispering, nodding and calling up attention onto apparently specific participants who were moving around and circulating.

I am convinced the police were there deliberately to target specific individuals as they left many participants alone who clearly were not in their sights - myself included. The vast array of armed 'stormtroopers' in backstreets and my witnessing of their subsequent initiation of unprovoked assaults against targeted participants leads me to firmly believe there was a counter-agenda. The SIoE demonstration was but a sideshow and Freddy-the-Mayor is just a stalking horse.


This is the heart of the European Union. If this can happen in the EU’s capital city, it could happen anywhere throughout the Union. The United Kingdom has spent centuries developing its liberties, all emanating from religious differences, but gradually, one by one, they are being subsumed to the religio-political ideology of Euro-nationalism. One used to have the right to protest peacefully, the right to state one’s view upon a religion, the right to cause offence, the right to profess an article of faith according to conscience. Now it appears that only Muslims have this right – the right to march with threats of violence, the right to demand the death of the Pope, the right to demand the slaughter of British servicemen in Iraq and Afghanistan, the right to deny the divinity of Jesus, the right to demean the Bible and assert the supremacy of the Qur’an.

Islam is becoming the de jure religion of the state. While Christianity is reviled by the forces of secularism, and the blasphemy laws have ceased to have any meaning at all, Islam is moving in to fill the vacuum. And neither the politicians nor the media dare question its inceasing power, influence, or its becoming the default religious setting of many EU member states.

EUrabia indeed.

32 Comments:

Anonymous Henry said...

Your Grace,

I think this might explain why the mayor was keen to crack down on the protest.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmI1MjI5OTA1YzFkOGRiYmJmYjFjYmNlODg1YTU0Mzc=

13 September 2007 at 08:03  
Blogger Mission Impossible said...

Dear Cranmer ... I was hoping you'd post on the recent events in Brussels. Thank you.

It is absolutely essential that more British citizens are made aware of the degree to which Europe has already moved towards a Police State, redolent of the old German 'Democratic' Republic (GDR) and their Stasi.

Here is a short extract from a posting one can find online, at the Brussels Journal:

I just returned home from the anti-Islamization demonstration in Brussels. The Belgian police beat up the peaceful demonstrators in what even the Belgian public television call "an extremely violent fashion." Here are some video images. The grey-haired man whom we see being attacked by the police first is Luk Van Nieuwenhuysen, the Vice-President of the Flemish Parliament. Shortly afterwards we see the police maltreating Frank Vanhecke, a member of the European Parliament and the party leader of the Vlaams Belang. We see how he is handcuffed and pushed into a police bus. Afterwards we also see the police "taking care" of Filip Dewinter, the VB group leader in the Flemish Parliament. We see how his arm gets caught between the closing doors of the bus. An Italian MEP and a French MEP were also arrested. The demonstrators were kept in cells for seven hours and released this evening.

Another video of the heavy-handed police treatment of a very peaceful demonstration, which had been announced well in advance, helps to show someone was targetting the leaders of the Demo, and not the protesters themselves.

The video can be watched in your browser by clicking here.

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By staying in the EU, is this what we are signing up to? A para-military continental police force who will not tolerate any demonstrators who have political outlooks anywhere to the right of Socialist International?

Let us not forget, Chancellor Merkel of Germany grew up in the GDR and so is quite used, and presumably comfortable, with life under the Stasi Secret Police. Do we in Britain want to be subsumed into a supra-national state controlled and directed by totalitarianistic people?

Forget the European Community project, with its free-trade arguments. That's history. We have entered a completely different ball game. Already, ex-Soviet dissidents have warned that the EU appears to them like another Communist Soviet.

What the hell is the Conservative Party and Cameron doing if they are failing to see, never mind read, the ominous signs???

13 September 2007 at 08:38  
Anonymous Voyager said...

What is worse, doesn't Belgium have at least 3 Police Forces having been reorganised after the "close" elationship the police had with Marc Dutroux ?

http://www.police.ac.be/menu_58.htm

In 2001, the three principal police forces in Belgium, namely the municipal police, the state police (Gendarmerie) and the judicial police (assigned to the offices of the public prosecutors), gave way to an integrated police service structured on two levels (a federal level and a local level).

I have never regarded Belgium as a "democracy" since it was more a statelet run for the benefit of the 100 Families who own most businesses and control the political structures. It is in essence a fake country created because Britain wanted it there to keep Antwerp out of French hands.

Now it is France which seeks to keep Belgium afloat to extend francophone influence.

It was a piece of British foreign policy which was essentially stupid and The Netherlands should have absorbed much of Belgium. Certainly the British Empire should not have gone to war in 1914 with Australians and Canadians and Indians dying for France and Belgium.

To describe Belgiuan Police as acting like Fascist riot police is to me tautological - the State is a contrived conspiracy against democracy unlike any West European nation and more akin to Bosnia-Herzogovina with a ruritanian monarchy dating to 1831 and a coonial history of gruesome bestiality even as other imperial nations were becoming almost welfarist in their concerns for their colonies.

That Roger Casement had to be sent as a Brirtish agent to comment on Leopold's possessions in the Congo only granted in 1885, shows just what present days disasters the Belgian satrapy has left us to shoulder in this century.

That the French wanted the EU Commission in Strasbourg and got Brussels shows the full scope of francophone influence; that Brussels with 22% unemployment is dependent on the EU for urban regeneration and high-value employment (lawyers, lobbyists, MNC HQs) can be seen in the building expansion across the city.

Belgium is delivering Brussels as a latterday Geneva full of all good works so long as it involves bureaucracy and media.

In a county where a former NATO Secretary-General had to resign because his Socialist Party collegaues had been importing Mafia hitmen to 'ice' those ivestigating corruption in Agusta helicopter contracts, one might ask if Belgium is simply a witches' brew bubbling away at the edge of the Europea n mailand before it explodes like some latterday Beirut into an Islamic statelet

13 September 2007 at 08:48  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Let us not forget, Chancellor Merkel of Germany grew up in the GDR and so is quite used, and presumably comfortable, with life under the Stasi Secret Police

I don't think there is any evidence for that...she certainly does not get on with Putin and he was the KGB Resident in the GDR at the time.....indeed her predecessor Gerhard Schroeder has just been feted in Moscow where his memoirs were published - and is Russia's favouite German (collaborator)

The German public is very unhappy with the course of events and the way the Left seized control of the agenda - first through terrorist violence (Baader-Meinhof) and through attacking any other opinion as "Nazi" or "Fascist" is wearing very thin with the German public as they see the disaster the '68 generation has unleashed and the increasing poverty in the country from over-regulation, over-taxation.

There are many EU states - Germany, Italy, Greece that looked to the EU to free them from the oppression of their own governments - and to curtail their power by diluting it. The trouble was that the Dirigisme of France coupled with the frenetic homogenisation fetish of the Germans combined to create a Supercharged Hegelian State trying to force-fit the whole European continent into a pre-defined template.

13 September 2007 at 08:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And it's all Neville Chamberlain's fault!!

13 September 2007 at 09:04  
Blogger El Draque said...

Even more evidence that it will all end in tears. Something will trigger a rebellion against the emerging power-structure. One cannot predict what it will be. A revival of traditional Christian faith, perhaps, leading to a different political outlook, or a sudden realisation that Parliament has been stripped of its power, or an incident that becomes a cause celebre. The Union will then break up in acrimony at best, in resistance to violent repression at worst. Be glad we are not in the euro - resignation will be easier for countries that retain their own currency.

13 September 2007 at 09:18  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Do you recall the brutality of the Hungarian riot police exactly a year ago ? How they removed their identification numbers before wading in and dragging people out of restaurants ?

Budapest.

http://riotsinhungary.blog.hu/

It seems not only in Putin's Russia do the police have a heavy-handed approach to dissent....I wonderwhat role Commissioner Frattini had in the policing in Brussels ?

13 September 2007 at 10:20  
Blogger Hettie said...

"Do you recall the brutality of the Hungarian riot police exactly a year ago?"

No I don't. But I remember the neofascist mob's destruction of the city centre. You linked a blog that demonstrates well what kind of people were involved in the "protests".

Hungary is a bad example anyway, first because the police is as incompetent as the other branches of power (didn't you hear that the rioters last September seized one of the 2 water canons from the police?), second the division regarding ex communist and genuine democrats is not between the Socialist Party and the "Conservative" one, since there are ex communist apparatchiks and cronies and worse in both parties.

Regards

Hettie from Hungary

13 September 2007 at 10:52  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Hungary is a bad example anyway, first because the police is as incompetent as the other branches of power

That is not precluded from brutality - it is after all a conceit to talk of "thuggish efficiency". The fact remains that the ruling party in Hungary had rather disappointed its electorate with brutal frankness regarding electoral mendacity.....it is hard to keep passengers prisoner on a train ride that takes people somewhere they don't want to go.....it usually requires physical violence to pack them in the railway carriages and keep them there.....a European speciality

13 September 2007 at 11:40  
Blogger Peter Kirk said...

Your Grace, I take your point, but you may also like to read this short piece.

13 September 2007 at 11:41  
Blogger Mission Impossible said...

peter kirk ... what I fear you are referring to (in your link) is not true Christianity at all, but rather a limp-wristed, marxoid version of it ... precisely the one that dominates Episcopal discourse in the USA.

True Christians know when enough is enough, and when to fight back.

Someone with more knowledgeable of the Bible than I might like to quote a sample of verses that indeed tell Christians when they should do so. What is the point of a religion if it only turns its believers into lambs ready for the slaughter?

13 September 2007 at 13:16  
Anonymous CCTV said...

Episcopalians are a fringe sect in the USA with barely 15.000 adherents in the state of the Presiding Bishop and about the same in New Hampshire......it is puny.

The largest single denomination is Roman Catholic followed by Baptists......ECUSA is basically an old-line social club with a cancerous growth which has eaten away at the backbone of the residual Anglican presence.

Without the African Church to underpin it ECUSA will drift on as a hi-jacked hulk and an embarrassment to Christians everywhere - a sort of camp parody of a Christian Church - a permanent Gay Pride Parade float

13 September 2007 at 13:57  
Anonymous Curly said...

Should we pray the Lord that the "son of the manse" sees fit to allow us to have our say to prevent these excesses ?being imported into our own culture

13 September 2007 at 14:12  
Anonymous nedsherry said...

The United Kingdom has spent centuries developing its liberties, all emanating from religious differences, but gradually, one by one, they are being subsumed to the religio-political ideology of Euro-nationalism.

It's an odd sort of Euro-nationalism that is all in favour of mass immigration by non-Europeans. Holocaustianity is the true Euro-religion: it informs and encourages all the developments His Grace is deploring.

One used to have the right to protest peacefully, the right to state one’s view upon a religion,

And on race. But the Board of Deputies, the Runnymede Trust and other concerned parties put a stop to that.

the right to cause offence,

There is one group His Grace is always very careful to avoid offending. They have, after all, created the same "fear" spoken of in the New Testament.

the right to profess an article of faith according to conscience.

13 September 2007 at 14:35  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

Well yes I am inclined to agree with all His Grace has written on this, but frankly, Belgium is not important.

Many years ago, whilst doing something called "interailing" I had to wait on a railway platform in Brussels. On an opposite platform, a person, dressed as an officer in the Belgian army, started waving a gun at me and (so I was told) shouting obscenities.

Waving a gun! Yes, I thought it was a bit OTT, since my only crime I gather, was to look like a hippy*.

Belgians may have invented Wagons Lits but that is the sum total of their contribution to society.

Here at last, in Great Britain, we can rejoice that I can still buy a pound of apples and a pint of beer.

Brussela can prise the pound of apples from my cold dead hand if they wish to try.

rule Britannia!

Weas

*Hippy - see wikipedia

ps. goin down to Geneva where I shall visit the Luther monument. I trust His Grace approves.

13 September 2007 at 15:23  
Anonymous CCTV said...

I can still buy a pound of apples and a pint of beer.

but only loose apples - packaged apples is a different matter; and only beer served in a pub...all other measures are metric

13 September 2007 at 16:21  
Anonymous nedsherry said...

His Grace's communicants may be interested in an article by the estimable Peter Oborne in the current issue of The Spectator. Here is an extract:

The Establishment is dead. But something worse has replaced it

It has been replaced by a narrow, self-serving governing elite...

The British Establishment was founded on the Christian religion. Religion provided the overriding justification and legitimacy for the social and moral order of the British state. As a result, members of the Establishment understood and surprisingly often sought to live up to the Christian values of humility, duty, forbearance, truthfulness and service. The Church plays no meaningful role in the formation of Political Class beliefs.

Although a number of individual members of the Political Class believe in God, or claim to do so, they are careful to place a barrier between their faith and their political convictions. However muddled and self-serving it may often seem, the philosophy of the Political Class is always based on a basic assumption about the supremacy of human reason and will. The Establishment, in sharp contrast, subscribed to a system of thought which stressed the fallibility of human beings, and emphasised that there were limits beyond which the human intellect finds it unable to stretch.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/

13 September 2007 at 17:17  
Blogger dizzyfatplonka said...

"What the hell is the Conservative Party and Cameron doing if they are failing to see, never mind read, the ominous signs???"

If this link works it may provide a possible answer to this question

If not go to www.tpuc.org
Its very good

13 September 2007 at 17:51  
Blogger dizzyfatplonka said...

Ooops ever so sorry this may save you searching

13 September 2007 at 18:10  
Anonymous Alexandrian said...

Peter Kirk

Thanks for your link. If Mission Impossible thinks that it is not true Christianity, and that it emanates from the sort of faith found in TEC, I suspect he has not read the link very carefully.

13 September 2007 at 21:26  
Anonymous B. Taylor said...

Your Grace,

Based on the video it seems that Filip Dewinter and Frank Vanhecke were trying to turn this protest into an anti-Belgium, Pro-Vlaams Belang rally (Filip Dewinter has openly declared Vlaams Belang Islamophobic, and using this protest to drum up support makes sense, even if it is rather callous)

The fact that people were yelling about being Flemish when being arrested rather than making a point about Islam and that someone was forced back for "being Flemish" should signify that this protest wasn't exactly as clearcut as it seemed.

Although the police action was un-called for and this is obviously a very worrying trend, and of course, the EU will need to adopt such measures more and more when states fight back to save their sovereignty.

Yes, the increasing influence of Islam is worrying, the violence however was not because of Islam. The police were willing to allow a small procession, however the agenda shifted, and Freddy Thielemans, who is anti-VB, ordered this unfair assault.

I am simply saying that this issue needs to be viewed from different angles, as should anything in the world of politics, as most of the information on the internet about this event has been written by die hard Flemish Nationalists, who are also using what appears to be the makings of a police state for their own ends.

14 September 2007 at 00:36  
Anonymous Simon9999 said...

Blasphemy Laws????? You state on your site that "Freedom of speech must be tolerated" but want to keep blasphemy laws? I have every right to make fun of your religion and say it is wrong (just like you should have the right to make fun of my Atheism and say that it is wrong).

Why the hypocrisy Cranmer?

14 September 2007 at 04:20  
Anonymous CCTV said...

I have every right to make fun of your religion and say it is wrong

If your fun consists of burning crosses or other public order offences then you should be tarred and feathered

14 September 2007 at 06:38  
Anonymous the last toryboy said...

Is burning a cross a public order offence? How about burning a flag?

Sheesh, looks like we'll end up in a police state no matter which idealogue is in charge.

14 September 2007 at 11:06  
Anonymous CCTV said...

the last toryboy said...

Is burning a cross a public order offence? How about burning a flag?


http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/20060001.htm

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1996/1996059.htm

14 September 2007 at 11:50  
Blogger Johnny Norfolk said...

Its already started in Britain in refusing us a referendum as promised in Labours manifesto.

We are been drawn into a police controlled state the type that is/was the norm in eastern Europe. The Dutch and Flemish from Belgium are fighting against this and that is why they were singled out for special treatmrnt. We have fought for our freedom throughout our history dont let labour just give it all away.

15 September 2007 at 07:56  
Blogger Mission Impossible said...

b.taylor ... the history of events leading up to the Brussels gathering can be found by browsing The Brussels Journal website.

I would expect most Cranmer commenters would agree with your assertion this issue needs to be viewed from different angles but I would like you to explain where you derived your impression of this event as being written by die hard Flemish Nationalists, who are also using what appears to be the makings of a police state for their own ends.

You write: The fact that people were yelling about being Flemish when being arrested rather than making a point about Islam and that someone was forced back for "being Flemish" should signify that this protest wasn't exactly as clearcut as it seemed.

What, in heavens name, is wrong with being Flemish and standing up for the rights of Flemish people, especially when it is the most efficient way of combating the further Islamification of Belgium??? Had the VB leaders shouted anti-Islamic slogans upon their arrest, then they would have been charged with serious offences. Do you not realize this?

Am I to assume you are more willing to condemn Flemish Nationalists --- for pointing out the slide to police state conditions within Belgium, and in the capital of the EU --- rather than condemn the makings of a police state? Which one represents the greater threat to you and to Britain: Flemish Nationalism, or the spread of a para-military Police State throughout Europe, combined with increasing Islamification?

Are you subconsciously equating Vlaams Balang with Naziism? Do you also therefore equate the BNP with proto-Naziism? Does any and every political expression to the right of "Socialist International," qualify as the murmurings of Naziism in your view?

Are you content to condemn Vlaams Belang for wanting a separate Flemish state? If so, then you must be happy with these kinds of policing methods?

Or what about:

This Democratic Policing method?

Presumably, because these people are only 'evil nationalist scum' you are happy with the Confiscation of Christian Imagery?

You claim the Demo was not about Islamification, but this suggests otherwise.

And this photo also suggests the Demo had a sincere intent.

And finally you might like to consider clear evidence of the mad , siege mentality of the Communist who pretends to be the Mayor of Brussels.

Mr b.taylor, may I politely suggest there exists a gaping dissonance between your perceptions or biases, and the political reality in Europe.

15 September 2007 at 08:11  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Although the police action was un-called for and this is obviously a very worrying trend, and of course, the EU will need to adopt such measures more and more when states fight back to save their sovereignty.

Fascinating. They will need a lot more police.....

15 September 2007 at 11:46  
Anonymous the last toryboy said...

Ah, Tony Blair and his hate crime acts.

A shame no party will ever have the courage to get rid of them from the books, unless UKIP ever gets in - kinda unlikely...

15 September 2007 at 12:58  
Anonymous Lega Nord said...

You see what happen when you set free the Muhammedan obscurantist forces. Now everything's clear! There's an unholy alliance between the Muhammedans blasphemers and the communists! Both hate our Christian civilisation and want to destroy it. I wouldn't be amazed that if the bastard Che Guevara lived nowadays he'd recite the shahada or whatever they call this bullshit. Spot who're the real reactionaries? Us, the so-called racist rightists? Or rather the ComuMuslims? We, the Lega Nord, the Vlaams Belang and our brothers all around Europe, we are the real left, because we only serve the people by saying things everyone thinks but no one dares to utter.

The final solution:

1) Imposing dhimmi-status on European Muslims and consequently denying (or withdrawing) them citizenship and vote rights, and establishing their inferiority in relation to the Christians (in tribunals, schools, hospitals etc...).
2) Forbbiding conversions to Islam and punishing those who commit it by death penalty (additional cruelties are customary).
3) Beheading those who offend Christianity.
4) Organising random pogroms of the bearded beasts to control their number because they breed too quickly.
5) Encouraging those who wish to leave Islam by protecting them and granting them the rights they were previously denied.
6) Compelling Muslim pupils to receive Christian teachings (catechism) and encouraging their conversion since the tender age.

If these measures seem to you unjust, cruel "medieval" and sadic, well I'm proud to inform you that we didn't invent them: this is exactly the fate of our fellow Christians in the Muhammedan countries.
Long live Padania and Europe, down with Islam and Ummah.

17 September 2007 at 19:01  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rightly deserved. Western nations have opted for suicide as the ultimate proof that they're not for genocide. Any cultural group willing to assert itself will see pluralism as weakness and jump at the opportunity to take control.

18 September 2007 at 18:00  
Blogger Mission Impossible said...

Western nations have opted for suicide as the ultimate proof that they're not for genocide.

So the obvious and overriding question must be ... who (or what group or lobby) encouraged western nations to move in that direction?

We have been herded into meek pluralism, against our better judgement. And of course, when I say 'we,' I mean our political classes and intellectual elites.

Why is it, that when one studies the history of immigration into the West since 1945, we find a massively disproportionate number of Jewish names, or of people with Jewish backgrounds, or of Jewish organizations???

Over 50% of the appointees in Bill Clinton's famously 'One-World' and pro-globalizing Administrations were Jewish.

To say these things isn't anti-Semitism ... it has now become essential.

19 September 2007 at 08:20  

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