Tuesday, October 30, 2007

The ‘shared values’ of Saudi Arabia and the United Kingdom

On the occasion of the State Visit of King Abdullah to the United Kingdom, Foreign Office Minister Kim Howells MP has informed the media that the two states could unite around their ‘shared values’.

Cranmer would simply like to know what these are.

The following ‘values’ are manifest in Saudi Arabia:

Support for Wahabism
Support for Islamic jihad
Repression of human freedoms
Trials remain closed despite laws declaring they are open to the public
Judges commonly pronounce guilty verdicts based on little evidence
Children are jailed for minor offences, including vague ‘moral’ charges
Children face beatings and solitary confinement
Children as young as 13 have been sentenced to death
Women are controlled have no right to act on their own behalf
Women are subject to the control of male guardians
Guardians can restrict rights to employment, education and freedom of movement.
Prisoners are routinely tortured
Workers go unpaid for months or years, despite working long hours at times with no days off. Physical and sexual abuse is commonplace
Labour is frequently forced
Human trafficking is rampant
Executions, floggings, and prolonged detention of peaceful critics without charge or trial are commonplace

For a full list of our shared values, see the report of Amnesty International. Under the authoritarian rule of the Saudi royal family, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has enforced strict shari’a religious laws under a doctrine of Wahabism. It is vindictive, retributive, and without mercy. Many western freedoms, which emanate from a Christian understanding of mercy, forgiveness, and man’s obligations toward his fellow man and to God, simply do not exist.

And by suggesting that the kingdoms of Abdullah and Elizabeth II share some kind of moral equivalence, Mr Howells and this Labour administration insult our intelligence. And by obliging Her Majesty to cordially host this tyrant, they demean her status, compromise her integrity, and confound her witness.

16 Comments:

Anonymous The recusant said...

This visit is about arms sales and dropped court cases, nothing to do with shared values.

I see Your Grace has had a ding-dong with Damien, glad to see you keep abreast of the wider Catholic issues.

Where is Mr Voyager?

30 October 2007 at 23:20  
Anonymous najistani said...

And screwing blonde children

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2007/10/blonde-children-are-coveted-sex-slaves.html

31 October 2007 at 00:00  
Blogger Dr.D said...

I see one thing that both Saudi Arabia and the UK definitely have in common: both have too many damn muslims!

31 October 2007 at 00:24  
Blogger Livingsword said...

They look very happy in together in the photo.

I will supply another difference, the King lives in the country he is king of, whereas the Queen of Canada lives in a different country.

Clearly Mr. Howells was just “saying all the right things”.

Question: Would it really be easier to affect change in Saudi by not being “friends” and not creating dialogue?

Cranmer…not a criticism, just an opinion I liked the black look more…as usual a wonderful “dalliance” with the King and Queen, as per the evocative standard to which I have become accustomed.

31 October 2007 at 01:34  
Blogger botogol said...

"Women are controlled [and] have no right to act on their own behalf"

Your Grace, that is is a sad and humiliating position for Saudi women to find themselves in.

Are they allowed to make their own decisions on terminations?
Should they be?

31 October 2007 at 09:24  
Blogger Straight Mike - tells it as it is said...

Shared values? They have oil which we need - end of!!

31 October 2007 at 10:28  
Blogger Straight Mike - tells it as it is said...

"And by obliging Her Majesty to cordially host this tyrant, they demean her status, compromise her integrity, and confound her witness."
Ah yes I felt really sorry for her being obligated yesterday - you could see her arm being twisted up her back and the tears in her eyes.As for "Her Majesty" and her disgusting hanger on rabble of a family, they have no staus, integrity or witness as they showed 10 years ago after the tragic (accident some call it!!)death of Princess Diana. And she continues in her wickedness by supporting the adulterous maritial "arrangement" of her son and daughter in law. And she fails to chastise or distance herself from her drunkard grandsons antics.Not to mention her continuous sanctioning of rotten Government laws without batting an eyelid. Away with them all and bring back Cromwell!!

31 October 2007 at 10:42  
Anonymous nedsherry said...

Many western freedoms, which emanate from a Christian understanding of mercy, forgiveness, and man’s obligations toward his fellow man and to God, simply do not exist.

Is that where they emanate? I take leave to doubt it. I don't know whether there is a stable via media between theocracy and the liberal suicide cult, but all of the following once took place here too, so we shouldn't pretend Islam oversees evils that Christianity didn't once oversee too:

Children face beatings and solitary confinement

Children as young as 13 have been sentenced to death

Women are controlled and have no right to act on their own behalf

Women are subject to the control of male guardians

Guardians can restrict rights to employment, education and freedom of movement

Prisoners are routinely tortured

31 October 2007 at 14:47  
Anonymous the last toryboy said...

I'm surprised nobody else noticed, but if you actually saw the Saudi tyrant turn up at Buck Palace - did anybody notice the tune that the band was playing?

The Star Wars Imperial March.

So the King of the Sauds made his way to the Palace to Darth Vader's theme tune.

Someone somewhere has a sense of humour at least.

31 October 2007 at 15:18  
Anonymous Michael Canaris said...

Far from being a tyrant, King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud legitimately ascended the Saudi throne. Not a particularly nice country, granted, but held legitimately nonetheless.

31 October 2007 at 17:58  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Canaris,

You are quite right to point out the historic Greek derivation of the term as referring to an absolute ruler who seized power without legal right. It has, however, come to mean an oppressive or cruel ruler; a person exercising power arbitrarily or cruelly.

It was in this sense that His Grace used the term.

31 October 2007 at 18:57  
Anonymous Dr. Irene Lancaster FRSA said...

A blog on this week's Policy Research report about defamatory literature, collected from 100 of Britain's mainstream mosques and which incites against Jews and Christians, can be accessed here:

http://irenelancaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/10/normal-muslim-r.html

The hate and envy material (paid for by the same Saudi Arabians who are currently being feted in Britain) was collected by young Muslims entering mosques, and then translated by experts, led by Dr. Denis MacEoin of Newcastle University.

This research is the first of its kind.

Tomorrow you can access my blog on Dr. Matthias Kuentzel's book: 'Jihad and Jew Hatred', which traces and exposes the connection between Nazi theories and Muslim theologies, based in the Koran and then extended from the 1920s until the present day.

The author's conclusion is not just that according to the Islamicists 'all Jews are evil' (which is taken for granted), but that 'all evil is Jewish'.

This is pure Hitlerism, of course.

By the way, the author was banned from Leeds University, which had invited him to speak on this theme in March. In October though, he was invited back and gave his very successful talk, which can also be accessed on my blog:

http://irenelancaster.typepad.com/

31 October 2007 at 20:25  
Anonymous najistani said...

Dr Lancaster,
Regarding Jihad and Jew hatred.

The Jews aren't a chosen people in terms of persecution by Muslims, they just happen to be first in the queue at the present time.

If the Muslims fulfilled their most pious wishes and completed the job that Hitler (pbuh) started, with the total extermination of the remaining Jews, then it still wouldn't get into the Guiness Book of Records, because such a holocaust would be relatively small in comparison with their massacre of 80 million Hindus (http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/26356.shtml)

There simply aren't enough killable Jews left in the world to even get into second place, because the number of Buddhists already massacred by RoP probably exceeds 30 million. ( It's strange to think that Islamic cesspits like Afghanistan and Pakistan were once peaceful and prosperous Buddhist countries ruled according to the edicts of Boddhisattva Ashoka.)

So, any aspiring future Caliph who wants to really impress Allah (otherwise known as Moloch) by a record-breaking human sacrifice will have to look way ahead of the Final Solution of the Jewish Problem and start seriously reviewing the options for massive nuclear strikes on other Kaffirs, probably aiming to incinerate a minimum of 100 Million Christians and/or Hindus.

I know the Jews are getting a lot of flak at the moment, but as I said earlier the Jews are nothing special. Once the Muzzies have come for the Jews, they'll come for the Kumbaya-singing Anglicans, and the multiculti Methodists, and especially they'll come for the Quakers (filthy kuffars who infringe the Prophet's exclusive 'Religion of Peace' trademark) .

And no doubt they'll also come for those bunny-cuddling Buddhists who believe that all spiritual paths lead to the peak of the same mountain - which would only be true only if all paths led upwards.

We need to stop preaching to the converted, (non-self-hating Jews and non-PC Christians) and go out and convince Joe Public that Islam is a real and present danger. Jew or Gentile, Christian or Pagan, Theist or Atheist, we're all walking around with targets on our backs. If we don't hang together then we shall most certainly hang separately.

The struggle with Islam is for global mastery between two utterly incompatible views of right and wrong, of humanity, of freedom, of civilisation, of the law, and of the value of Reason and the intellect.

The struggle does not admit of any possibility of compromise or a stable peace. It can only be settled by the complete defeat of one worldview by the other.

In the short term, the only way to protect our way of life is to kick the terrorists out of Dar al-Harb ASAP.

31 October 2007 at 23:15  
Anonymous Stephen Gash said...

There was a demo on the Friday before the visit

http://www.sioeengland.blogspot.com/

against Kuffarphobia

1 November 2007 at 00:09  
Anonymous Michael Canaris said...

Your Grace,

I thank you for your helpful clarification. As it happens, another term which seems perhaps a touch more fitting in this context is "Oriental Despot."

1 November 2007 at 09:13  
Anonymous nedsherry said...

Dr Lancaster writes:

Tomorrow you can access my blog on Dr. Matthias Kuentzel's book: 'Jihad and Jew Hatred', which traces and exposes the connection between Nazi theories and Muslim theologies, based in the Koran and then extended from the 1920s until the present day.

The author's conclusion is not just that according to the Islamicists 'all Jews are evil' (which is taken for granted), but that 'all evil is Jewish'.

This is pure Hitlerism, of course.


Lehi (Hebrew acronym for Lohamei Herut Israel, "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", לח"י - לוחמי חירות ישראל), also known as the Stern Gang, was an armed underground Zionist faction in Mandatory Palestine that had as its goal the eviction of the British authorities from Palestine to allow unrestricted immigration of Jews and the formation of a Jewish state.... In 1940, Lehi proposed intervening in World War II on the side of Nazi Germany. It offered assistance in "evacuating" the Jews of Europe, in return for Germany's help in expelling Britain from Mandate Palestine.... On January 11, 1941 a letter was sent from Der Marvitz, the German Naval attaché in Ankara, depicting an offer to "actively take part in the war on Germany's side" in return for German support for "the establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_Gang#Contact_with_Nazi_authorities

najistani writes:

There simply aren't enough killable Jews left in the world to even get into second place, because the number of Buddhists already massacred by RoP probably exceeds 30 million.

You forget that Jews are worth much more than goys.

1 November 2007 at 15:18  

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