Monday, May 19, 2008

Abortion - in all its uncensored barbarity

Cranmer asked his communicants to send him footage of abortion procedures, and promised to publicise the reality of this depraved barbarity. He thanks those who have contacted him with these appalling videos.

WARNING: Do not click on these if you may be offended, disturbed, or wish to remain ignorant of the mechanism by which we are murdering millions of babies every single year.

You may need a YouTube registered account to view this, which is in Spanish, but the words are irrelevant. Having been sliced and diced, the baby comes out in identifiable pieces, the head last.



And this is link to footage from the Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform, in which the delicate, perfectly-formed limbs of dozens of murdered babies are displayed swimming in blood:

http://www.prolifetraining.com/WMV/Abortion-Pictures-high.htm

"Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD." Leviticus 18:21

May God forgive us, for we know what we do.

38 Comments:

Blogger Dorothy said...

Bravo, Cranmer, for this and your previous post.
The abortionists, the experimenters, and many of their supporters, know very well that these are living human beings. The experimenters want the embryos for that precise combination of reasons: they are human, and they are alive. The abortion-seekers and the abortionists do not seem prepared to wait just a few more weeks or months, after which the child could have the chance of a happy life with one of the many couples who long to adopt. The important thing for them is that the child must end up dead.
In a short while, can you foresee these two threads coming together? Think of the potential good it might do if, instead of an abortion procedure ensuring the death of the gestating child, it could be brought out alive? How useful to have those organs and tissues, at their more advanced stage of development. The possibilities are endless.
And who is my neighbour? And who is the least of the Lord's brethren, so that whatever we do to the least, we do to Him?

19 May 2008 at 16:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Repugnant. I am really shocked and horrified to find these images on here.

I will not be visiting your blog again until you have calmed down and found a sense of proportion.

19 May 2008 at 16:37  
Anonymous billy said...

anonymous said...
Repugnant. I am really shocked and horrified to find these images on here.

I will not be visiting your blog again until you have calmed down and found a sense of proportion.

19 May 2008 16:37

... and that sense of proportion would be not calling murder by its name?

19 May 2008 at 17:17  
Anonymous The recusant said...

There never was a time when killing unborn human babies was a sanitised process, ever eager to avoid a child being pulled from its mothers body alive, moving, making a noise and left to struggle for life only to die in a bucket, more ingenious methods have been devised from brain evacuation to burning alive using saline solution.

I dare say that regular readers of this blog are motivated by more than lifes mundane trivia and so I urge those who flee in horror at His Graces revolting pictures, face the facts; this is being done every day in the UK in your name.

The provider of 80% of UK abortions are the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, BPAS who received government funding because it organises abortions which are sub-contracted by the NHS and it takes over £12 million pounds every year of your tax pounds to flush your future down the sluice. Now that’s a government contract in anyone’s books.

BPAS attack those who question their caring, safe abortion strap line as nothing more than an excuse to profit from the misery of women and a commercialised industry of death as "vile scum". Director of communications for the BPAS Ann Furedi confirmed to the BBC that she stands by "every word" of her attack. Ms Furedi also describes anti abortionists as “dishonest, manipulative, irrational, ignorant fanatics who patronise women..." And that is how she justifies her British tax payer funded salary of £52,890 per annum.

Those who don’t care about life surely care about your taxes, 40 years at £12 million, getting on towards £0.5 billion and it will only get worse so long as you continue with the illusion, it has nothing to do with me, it does, you pay for it, and its killing all our future.

If you think this is exaggeration, ask yourself why do we need so many immigrants, because we don’t have our own young nurses, doctors, tradesmen etc, why is the pension age going up, because we don’t have enough young people of working age to pay the tax required for old age, why are essential medicines being rationed, because the NHS cannot afford to support the nation properly. Where have 6.5 million babies gone? The effects are here with us, now.

19 May 2008 at 20:25  
Blogger Ttony said...

I managed the first video - I speak Spanish and understood everything that was said - and decided that enough was enough for tonight.

The idea that you can have abortion up to some limit but nor after reallt is crazy.

I'm lost for words.

19 May 2008 at 20:27  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

I am ashamed to admit that I could not watch either of these videos, but there again I am not doing the murder. How in the name of Hell even, can anybody who goes into the medical profession go through with this?

19 May 2008 at 20:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace,

Sorry for posting 'anonymously'; one day when I have an hour or so I will work out how you get an account on this thing.

I can't find any reference on your last posting to how old the baby was in the picture - maybe that would clarify things for those in denial, who have an image of a cluster of cells. Maybe it would also help those people to realise that 24 weeks is six months (how big is a pregnancy bump at six weeks - think on that) and that the baby is already well and truly formed. The last few months of a pregnancy are spent in growth, not development.

I couldn't bring myself to watch the video either. I don't need to know every detail to know how wrong it is.

Jenny.

19 May 2008 at 20:54  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

Some of these feminists think babies are parasites. You know, they see babies and procreation like the face-huggers off Alien.

But here's another question: If a woman miscarries does that make God and abortionist?

Is God an abortionist?

19 May 2008 at 22:04  
Anonymous Christopher Johnson said...

HH,

No. God in His Sovereignty deciding that a life must end is one thing. But Man in his arrogance deciding what is or isn't humanity, and that mostly on the basis of mere convenience or "choice" or some other similar barbarism, is an abomination and call's down God's just judgement.

19 May 2008 at 23:13  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

Your Grace
In the past I've seen pictures of aborted babies and a diagramatic representation of a partial birth abortion. It's just too upsetting to click on your references.

This legalised infanticide is on a par with the likes of Dr Mengele it seems to me.

And I've just heard that the Commons voted with significant majorities for chimeras and saviour siblings. I am so angry with this country.

19 May 2008 at 23:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These images are indeed repugnant, but do we really want to go back to the days when women were forced to procure dangerous back street abortions, with many dying in the process? Let's face reality: the sad fact is that abortion, and the desire to procure an abortion, will always be with us and surely it is better to have it carried out safely rather than go back to the dark days of coat hangers and knitting needles.

20 May 2008 at 00:01  
Anonymous Job's Tempter said...

Um...chaps...Lady Thatcher voted for Steel's original abortion bill in the 60s. Through her legal practice, she'd seen at first hand the suffering prohibition brought about. (Incidentally, she gave the same reason for voting to legalise homosexuality.) Surely you can't be suggesting The Lady got it wrong? Or that she lacks faith?

20 May 2008 at 00:08  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

So the choice is either hundreds of thousands of legal abortions in hygienic murder clinics, or a small number of illegal abortions taking place in back-street murder clinics?

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Late term abortion throws into sharp relief the inadequacy of modern "rights" based ethics. For rights are given by an earthly sovereign Caesar and can be revoked. In the case of abortion, rights are granted only when medical authority declares an entity human. Therein lies the weakness, for if we can conceivably kill a new-born full term baby, why should we ever grant "rights" to anyone at any age?

We Christians know that man is made in the image of God. We Christians do not rely on rights, for rights are the thinly veiled caprice of Caesar, we align our souls with what C.S. Lewis called the Tao and try to practice good morals. Like abstinence, like sobriety. That is a strength those who have rejected God do not have.

20 May 2008 at 00:20  
Blogger marvin said...

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20 May 2008 at 00:32  
Blogger marvin said...

Taking a morning after contraceptive pill is literally a world of difference from this sick voyeurism. The agreed time in this country is 24 months. Perhaps this should be reduced. But this polemic is so base.

20 May 2008 at 00:54  
Blogger marvin said...

"the mechanism by which we are murdering millions of babies every single year."

Pure bollocks. I would be surprised if this particular procedure was carried out more than a few hundred times a year - and no doubt in otherwise dire circumstance.

Where's your reason Cranmer?

20 May 2008 at 00:59  
Anonymous St Benno said...

Thank you for forcing the ostriches to face our Frankenstein society. Your Grace should be delighted to read my view on the developments in the Western Church and world, entitled Hope and Disillusionment (freely downloadable as PDF at www.bennozuiddam.com/Theologie.htm).

20 May 2008 at 05:01  
Blogger Adrian said...

I'm no fan of abortion but it isn't murder. I don't believe God is bothered. Nor is He bothered by the thousands killed lately by natural disasters in Sichuan and Burma. Death is a fact of life.

20 May 2008 at 06:45  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Adrian,

Death indeed is a fact of life, but anyone with the most passing acquaintance with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, could not possibly assert that God is 'not bothered'.

Your opinion is welcome; your theology baseless.

20 May 2008 at 07:01  
Blogger botogol said...

"intellectual rigour....refreshing common sense .. sheer intelligence, erudition and fun"

all discarded as the red mist descends.

Somes your grace really loses his touch.

20 May 2008 at 08:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have chosen not to view the video but I resolutely defend the decision to post it on two grounds.

First it is founded, not upon your right to publish but our right to view it if we chose to do so.

Second, the mainstream media are so wedded to the liberal agenda which supports this practice, that they have steadfastly refused to put such material in the public domain. They are only too happy to publicise atrocities of which they disapprove.

It is right to ensure that if there is any doubt as to the character of that which is being discussed, someone somewhere offers the information in plain and unambiguous terms.

Martin Sewell

20 May 2008 at 09:34  
Anonymous Enlightened Christian said...

Absolutely disgusting.

On what grounds is this slaughter of the innocent justified ????

I'm stunned that the establishment are campaigning to retain this evil practice.

20 May 2008 at 10:21  
Anonymous i spy strangers said...

I am ashamed to be a member of this supposedly "civilised society" - a fiction which is being laid more cruelly bare with each day that passes. As a Christian, I am even more ashamed that I have not done more to speak up for these thousands of victims who have no voice.

As for "death being a fact of life", I think it was Kierkegaard who observed that "death is not an event in life" - a remark which we would do well to ponder.

20 May 2008 at 10:58  
Blogger Dave said...

"There ain't no right way to do a wrong thing"
From "The Power of ethical management" by Kenneth Blanchard & Norman Vincent Peale pub 1988.

The truth is that many political, economic and military decisions are taken by people who don't have to live with the consequences.

May God have mercy on us all

20 May 2008 at 12:17  
Anonymous Jenny said...

In response to various comments, and in no particular order;

Late abortions, even the beeb admitted this morning, amount to 1.5% of abortions each year. A small percentage, but a large number. If you take even the lowest figures of around 180,000 a year, that's 2700 abortions.

As to 'good reasons' for aborting that late, the only example the beeb, in it's wisdom, could come up with was a woman whose 20-week scan showed (and look away here if you're disabled and sensitive) 'a series of abnormalities' which the mother and her husband felt they were not ready to cope with at that stage in their lives. I am sure if those abnormalities were easy to define and serious (rather than there being a series, which is something else entirely) then the woman would've said so. So what we have here is justification of aborting late on the grounds that science couldn't find out until the 20-week scan that there were abnormalities; but suppose they hadn't found out until week 34, or the due date, or 10 weeks after the birthday - there is a line to be drawn and it's definitely not this late.

It hasn't come up on this page but I think previously someone was claiming that it was nonsense that more premature babies were surviving at 24 weeks than ever before, and in any case, why should that help our cause? Well, you're not telling me that all the money spent on helping premature babies over the last ten years has produced nothing; that's poppycock. Also, those babies are poorly - that's why they're born early. A healthy baby born that early is much more likely to survive. This is why some of them do, even when aborted.

Finally, show me the evidence that removing the 'right' of the mother to chose death for her child either at 21 weeks or at all will lead to back-street abortions. Society has moved on since those dark days. There is no longer the stigma attached to being single and pregnant that there was, and there is certainly plenty more support.

This morning I was depressed when I heard the news about yesterday's vote; for an hour or so I sympathised with those Muslims who have fought for having a state-within-a-state. But I now realise this is not the Christian way. Doing that would be letting the evil continue. We must continue to use the system to beat it instead.

Jenny.

20 May 2008 at 17:00  
Anonymous Job's Tempter said...

Andy Hamilton's excellent comedy Old Harry's Game envisioned a Hell with a Pregnant Pope's Enclosure. Ex-pontiffs were left for all eternity with cracked nipples and poor bladder control, contemplating the fear, desperation and isolation of an enforced pregnancy. Do you suppose there was an Archbishop's section?

20 May 2008 at 20:45  
Anonymous Christopher Johnson said...

Ah. Only a few hundred babies a year are butchered. That makes all the difference in the world. End corrosive sarcasm at such an asinine comment.

20 May 2008 at 21:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm...compared to what one sees on the battlefield this is pretty tame stuff...

20 May 2008 at 23:57  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Ms Furedi also describes anti abortionists as “dishonest, manipulative, irrational, ignorant fanatics who patronise women...

cf: Frank Furedi (born 1947, Hungary) is professor of sociology at the University of Kent, UK.

Furedi is author of several influential books on risk, most recently Invitation to Terror: The Expanding Empire of the Unknown (Continuum 2007), an analysis of the impact of terrorism post 9/11. He is a leading sociologist, and, according to research [1], the most widely cited in the UK press.

In the 1970s, Furedi founded and held the chair of the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) of Great Britain - a libertarian Marxist political party, which disbanded in 1997.

He is the husband of Ann Furedi, the Chief Executive of British Pregnancy Advisory Service, the UK's largest independent abortion provider.


Prior to her career in reproductive health, Furedi was a journalist, specialising in healthcare features for women's magazines including Cosmopolitan, Company, sometimes writing under her 'maiden name', Bradley.

In 1982, she married Frank Furedi, the founder and then leader of the British Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP).[1]

Ann Furedi was a contributor to the party's LM Magazine until it folded due to an adverse libel verdict in 2000.[2] She has also contributed to Spiked Online, an online magazine, that identifies itself as libertarian humanist.



The battle is simply between those who are Dialectical materialists and those who are believers in God. One is Utilitarian and sees human capability as the only criterion for action but has its own shibboleths and its own ideological rigidities.

Surprisingly Marxism has been highly successful in parliamentary democracies in Western Europe

21 May 2008 at 06:34  
Anonymous The recusant said...

A sad, sad day indeed.

The only possibility left that I can see is if Her Majesty had a crisis of conscience and followed the lead of the King of the Belgians who refused to sign the act after the Belgian government passed a law drastically liberalising abortion in 1990.
Roger Lallemand and Lucienne Herman-Michielsens, submitted changes liberalising Belgium's abortion laws which were approved by Parliament, King Baudoin however could not bring himself to sign and so refused to give Royal Assent, an unprecedented act in Belgium and effectively abdicated pro tem.

This is however unlikely as the Queen signed the original act into law and ultimately would be without much significance since Royal Assent has long been a formality.

21 May 2008 at 08:57  
Blogger Cinnamon Marine said...

"Death indeed is a fact of life, but anyone with the most passing acquaintance with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and the God and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ, could not possibly assert that God is 'not bothered'.

Your opinion is welcome; your theology baseless." Cramner 07.01

2 Samuel 12: 15-18:

"And the LORD struck the child that Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became ill. 16 David therefore pleaded with God for the child, and David fasted and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 So the elders of his house arose and went to him, to raise him up from the ground. But he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 18 Then on the seventh day it came to pass that the child died."

You may say that anyone familiar with God could not assert that he is not bothered by abortion, but it seems that God isn't above killing babies when it suits him.

21 May 2008 at 12:11  
Anonymous The recusant said...

Cinnamon Marine, Every now and then on His graces Blog some sophisticate delves into the pages of Holy Scripture and produces a passage or two (usually Leviticus) to support their view that either its all Gods fault or he doesn’t exist, or some variation on the theme. Unfortunately you have fallen straight into that trap, for it is well known that the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose as he did on the temptation Christ and quotes a passage from Psalm xci (MATTHEW iv). Even Shakespeare and a few others noted the fact:
An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek.
[1596 Shakespeare Merchant of Venice I. iii. 93]

Thus Candour's maxims flow from Rancour's throat, As devils, to serve their purpose, Scripture quote. [1761 C. Churchill Apology 15]

Is any one surprised at Mr. Jonas making such a reference to such a book for such a purpose? Does any one doubt the old saw that the Devil (being a layman) quotes Scripture for his own ends. [1843 Dickens Martin Chuzzlewit xi.]

The versatile personage in our popular proverbs, who‥quotes Scripture for his own ends. [1937 ‘C. Dickson’ Ten Teacups xiii.]

The devil can quote Scripture, as we all know, so why not a politician? [1997 Washington Times 25 July A4]
That aside His Grace did not question Mr Adrian’s sincerity just his theology, which considering the remarks in question was quite appropriate. You could have of course quoted Exodus and the killing of the first born of Egypt, far more effective to cite a whole nations children than just one don’t you think.

21 May 2008 at 17:08  
Blogger Cinnamon Marine said...

Come to that, one could refer to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (unless you believe the babies in those cities were evil - for which I would need to ask for evidence), the Flood, and any other disaster for which God is cited as responsible by the Bible. Everyone is selective in what they choose to quote from such texts, using only those extracts which they consider support their own side - is it only those on the opposite side to Cranmer etc who are to be accused of being led to do so by the devil? Who gets to determine that?

21 May 2008 at 18:26  
Anonymous The recusant said...

“Who gets to determine” – That’s an easy one it was determined long ago:

"I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art." (Hippocratic Oath – Greek, 4th century BC)

"The law enjoins us to bring up all our offspring, and forbids women to cause abortion of what is begotten, or to destroy it afterward; and if any woman appears to have so done, she will be a murderer of her child, by destroying a living creature, and diminishing humankind." (Flavius Josephus, 1st century Jewish historian)

"Do not abort a foetus or kill a child that is born." (The Didache - the first manual of the Christian Church, c. AD 100)

21 May 2008 at 20:05  
Blogger Cinnamon Marine said...

That’s an easy one it was determined long ago:

"I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art." (Hippocratic Oath – Greek, 4th century BC)

"The law enjoins us to bring up all our offspring, and forbids women to cause abortion of what is begotten, or to destroy it afterward; and if any woman appears to have so done, she will be a murderer of her child, by destroying a living creature, and diminishing humankind." (Flavius Josephus, 1st century Jewish historian)

"Do not abort a foetus or kill a child that is born." (The Didache - the first manual of the Christian Church, c. AD 100)

Right back atcha:
Thus Candour's maxims flow from Rancour's throat, As devils, to serve their purpose, Scripture quote. [1761 C. Churchill Apology 15]

Unless of course your position is that quotations you agree with represent divine truth and those you disagree with are of the devil? Which I presume makes you God. Or merely supremely arrogant.

21 May 2008 at 20:53  
Anonymous Christopher Johnson said...

Except that babies can't fire guns at people, anonymous, you moral cretin.

22 May 2008 at 01:09  
Anonymous The recusant said...

Your argument is getting confused; I am on the side of the angels, fully pro-life and completely opposed to abortion but you appear (to some degree at least) to be in favour of abortion as is evident from your earlier support of Adrians position of ‘God kills babies too’. To then associate my standpoint with quotations that clearly indicate the contrary makes no sense. You have not turned my quotation against me just shown the paucity in your line of reasoning.

To be credible you have to counter my argument with quotes of your own that clearly and unambiguously support your position. Something outside the mantra of ‘It’s a woman’s right’ would be a start Try the Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring, proclaimed on July 14, 1933 which produced the Nazi Action T4 eugenics program. This targeted those humans they identified as Lebensunwertes Leben ("life unworthy of life") and implemented forced abortions and sterilisation. Now there’s your first quote.

Throughout history and across cultures with few exceptions the intrinsic evil of abortion has been recognised. Even the Romans had laws against although it was still practiced: Think again about the dates and religions of these two examples so the position is not just held by modern neo-cons’ or Christians out of context.

Hippocratic Oath – Greek, 4th century BC
Flavius Josephus, 1st century Jewish historian

I’m closing on this now but before I go consider this; Gestation period up to 12 weeks: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands (13 weeks), Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia (10 weeks). 18 weeks: Sweden, Norway. 20 weeks: Canada. 22 weeks: Spain, New Zealand, Australia. 24 weeks, UK--hooray! Abortion capital of Europe! Makes you proud to be British.


"Do not abort a foetus or kill a child that is born." (The Didache - the first manual of the Christian Church, c. AD 100)

22 May 2008 at 09:23  
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