Friday, July 25, 2008

SNP victory in Glasgow East - the Christians won it


The seat has loyally returned a Labour MP in every election for almost 60 years - virtually since the Labour Party was born. It was as Red as Ken, as safe as houses (if, indeed, houses may any longer be considered safe), and this by-election defeat will go down as one of the most dramatic ever. The SNP overturned a majority of 13,500 - a result that will send shockwaves throughout the entire parliamentary party - and the new MP, John Mason, is a committed Christian.

But why did Labour lose?

There will be much talk in the mainstream media of a tedious, dour and unpopular prime minister in Westminster, chatter about an increasingly ascendant SNP or Margaret Curran's misinformation and lies, and much analysis of why people did not come out to vote - the turnout was just 42 per cent, compared to a general election turnout of 48 per cent. It is evident that traditional Labour voters either defected or stayed at home because they felt that Labour had ceased to care about their low life expectancy, high levels of unemployment, poor housing and health problems.

Or their faith.

In the run-up to the by-election the Bishop of Motherwell denounced Labour unquivovally: "What are we to do when our religion is attacked and our conscience outraged? When one considers the self-inflicted injuries this Labour Government has visited upon itself, one could be forgiven for thinking it had some kind of death wish."

Quite so. And Cardinal Keith O'Brien has been preaching scorn and condemnation for quite some time over Labour's Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill.

But the Roman Catholic factor will have very little analysis, save, perhaps, from the occasional Roman Catholic commentator. Cranmer has previously highlighted the Labour's anti-Catholic attitudes and the religious make-up of this seat, and (should the psephologists enquire) it would come as no surprise at all to learnn that Christians abandoned Labour in their thousands.

Labour manifests gross insensitivity to the religious or ethical considerations of Christians. The HFE Bill - which was postponed because of this by-election - seeks to maintain the present abortion limit, produce animal-human hybrids, and permit the production of ‘fatherless’ children. The only appeal was ever to the 'science', as if this were the only source of reason. The triumph of utilitarianism has relegated religious considerations to the peripheries of sanity, and the only rational context in which debate can now take place is that which reduces ethical considerations to matters of economics or science.

By weakening the safeguards controlling abortion, Labour has cheapened the value of life. By forcing the closure of Roman Catholic adoption agencies, Labour has negated the primacy of conscience. They have misrepresented science in order to perpetuate their programme of social engineering, and they are intent on destroying the carefully-laid foundations of tolerance and respect which have set this nation apart. This Labour government is so intent on legislating for tolerance towards every intolerant minority that they blindly end up legislating for intolerance of the tolerant Christian majority.

When Christians dare to be convicted, they are portrayed as bigots. When they articulate a view with which others may disagree, they are dogmatic. When they fall short of perfection, they are pilloried and cast as hypocrites. When they defend the unborn, they are unenlightened. When they oppose animal-human embryos, they are anti-science. When they express concern over the fatherless, they are homophobic. When they speak up for the poor, they are wishy-washy liberals. When they defend faith-based education, they are intolerant. When they seek to uphold marriage, they are ‘right wing’ reactionaries.

Well, at least they possess a vote, and with that vote can they bring judgement upon those who have ceased to care, ceased to listen, and ceased to submit to the higher sovereign power.

25 Comments:

Anonymous The Recusant said...

If Your Grace never writes another word know that this is probably your finest paragraph:

“When Christians dare to be convicted, ….”

25 July 2008 at 09:39  
Blogger Simon Copley said...

I have discovered Cranmer today - very refreshing and trenchant. I think a bigger Christian backlashing factor in Glasgow East is the general despair of the moral (and not necessarily Christian) majority over the fall of a Labour government from the heights of their Social-Justice vision heights - like Lucifer from heaven.
After a decade of Blairism we now have as large an inequality between rich and poor than during the Industrial revolution, soft peddling to non-dom tax dodgers (at least Polish plumbers CONTRIBUTE) and other multi-billion pound profiteering tax evaders (Oil companies/Tesco etc), millions wasted on crap budget-hoovering consultants (civil servants who need to call them in on such a scale obviously have not a clue about anything and should be sacked), increasing concentration of essential services like energy, transport, health and education in the hands of private profiteers. In the meantime, lower wage earners are preached at to exercise restraint by the trough-guzzling John-Lewis-listers, in the face of a huge hike in the cost of surviving. These price rises are the true fuellers of inflation foisted on us by companies whose bottom line is the presrvation of massive profits and huge executive pay deals. And then we face taxes both stealthy and blatant (10p etc) on top of it all - need I go on?
It is because Labour are so far from the original vision of the Christian Kier Hardie and the ILP that decent, ordinary, lower-paid and thinking people with an ounce of a sense of social justice want shot of them. My great grand-father was a founder member of the ILP but I voted Conservative for the first time ever at the locals -that is how far Labour have fallen. The lucky Scots have a viable "old labour" alternative in the SNP and the Welsh a nearing viable alternative in Plaid Cymru. David Cameron has performed the miracle of managing to SOUND more caring than a labour prime-minister but I withold judgement on him for the time being - he seems a decent cove though and perhaps he deserves his chance.

25 July 2008 at 09:47  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Simon Copley,

You are welcome to His Grace's august blog of intelligent and erudite comment upon matters religio-political.

It is heartnening to be discovered.

Mr Recusant,

Since the Book of Common Prayer, surely?

25 July 2008 at 09:51  
Blogger tormentedshadeofkierhardie said...

He sounds more caring because he probably is more caring

25 July 2008 at 09:52  
Blogger Ben Stevenson said...

Fantastic result last night. The most pro-life candidate standing won.

25 July 2008 at 10:46  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

"The triumph of utilitarianism has relegated religious considerations to the peripheries of sanity, and the only rational context in which debate can now take place is that which reduces ethical considerations to matters of economics or science."

I've though about this. I call it the "Vitalist Episteme".

I ask the same question Socrates asked Euthyphro: Is something good because someone says it is good, or is something good in and of itself?

Most people today believe something is good because it is said to be good, verily, they don't believe in truth, only webs of associations and ideas - i.e. Memes.

If something is True because you say it is so, then there is no truth at all, and all things are permitted. This is logically absurd - a diabolical agnosticism that is, ironically, held as an article of absurd faith.

To escape this an Episteme is required, a theory about what can be known to be true and good in and of itself.

Most people soon arrive at what I call the Vitalist Episteme - that something is good and true because it helps further life and the feeling of life. Verily, the feeling of life is knowable to all, the feeling of life is experienced when one eats when hungry, in the sight of a loved one, in the home team victory. This vital experience is immediately obvious and available to all, unlike god which requires repentance and struggle, and this vitalism is thusly made into a moral/epistemological criterion.

25 July 2008 at 10:57  
Blogger botogol said...

HH you seem to have afforded a third possibility to your dichotomy

You question whether something is good because
1) it is said to be good, or
2) it is good in and of itself .

(Note - these are hardly independent, as 2 would cause 1)

however you also seem to allow

3) god says it is good

or perhaps more accurately

4) many people beleive that God says/said it to be good.

Of course 3 or 4 could also be be caused by 2 as well

It's a tangle isn't it?

25 July 2008 at 11:37  
Anonymous wrinkled weasel said...

Here's something I left on the blog of Tom Harris, another Glasgow MP who for some reason is not contrite or accepting that the people of Glasgow East have spoken.

Ms Curran’s speech at the count was full of vinegar. She looked as if she had swallowed a wasp. Several times the word “equality” was used and “fighting for equality”.

What does this mean to ordinary people? What it means really, is revenge, retribution and raising the weak and degenerate to a position of unjustified tyranny. That means penalising parents who want good schools for their children. It means taxing cheap family cars out of the market. It means giving consideration to homosexuals who want to use public places for sex, but diminishing the role of fathers and penalising Christians who wish to adopt. It means destroying the traditions of this country, like free dental care. This is not equality, it is a redistribution of hegemony to a a decadent aetheist liberal elite.

Labour has become the party of hate. Hate of ordinary people who pay taxes and go about their business lawfully. People who don’t fiddle their expenses and expect to enjoy their hard earned pay. It’s not the poor people of Glasgow East that Labour has forgotten. It’s me.

I recall the words of Dietrich Bonhoeffer:

"God's truth judges created things out of love, and Satan's truth judges them out of envy and hatred"

The Labour party is the party of envy and hatred. Without doubt.

25 July 2008 at 13:18  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

"God's truth judges created things out of love, and Satan's truth judges them out of envy and hatred"

In answer to botogol, God is one (Three things that are one to be precise), and spontaneous. To ascribe some kind of desire to God's love is the very beginning of Luciferianism.

This is why Monotheism is important, Lucifer, who taught we could know good from evil - says that something could be good because so-and-so says it is good -- which leads to absurdism as I have already said.

"is something good in and of itself?"

I suppose it would be better to say that objective truth exists and exists outside of the self. C.S. Lewis made this point in The Abolition of Man. The creator of values is not in man; reason is as empty as algebra without quantity.

25 July 2008 at 13:51  
Blogger The Heresiarch said...

Yes indeed, the influence of "faith" on the SNP is striking. Has your Grace's mind ever turned to the interesting subject of Mr Osama Saeed?

25 July 2008 at 14:42  
Anonymous hear o israel said...

as some one pointed out that if last nights swing was repeated throughoout the country only 5 labour mps would be in the house of parliment.

dont forget that within the labour party lies many words that would seek to see the end of christianity

25 July 2008 at 15:12  
Blogger Ben Stevenson said...

Hear O Israel,
I heard that Labour would keep just 5 of its current cabinet if last night's swing was repeated, rather than just 5 MPs. The Daily Mail is reporting that three-quarters of the Cabinet would lose their seats based on last night's swing away from Labour.

25 July 2008 at 16:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hate to prick your bubble there Cranmer, but I don't think the low life scum that make up the majority of the electorate in Glasgow had God and Christianity in mind when they voted SNP yesterday...

25 July 2008 at 17:39  
Blogger Ben Stevenson said...

Wow, an anonymous person brave enough to throw insults!

Apparently the SNP voted in favour of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.

25 July 2008 at 18:48  
Blogger mckenzie said...

The majority of the electorate did not vote. And it is some gift you have to be able to KNOW the reasons which inspired the 42% of the electorate that did vote.
I can only hazard a guess here, but I would say that being made to feel, and be treated like scum probably had a lot to do with it. What you anonymously say probably only serves to confirm what they already know about what their worth is considered to be.
Thank goodness that even low life scum have a vote (as it stands).

25 July 2008 at 19:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to stray off-topic, although I know it's a bug-bear of many readers of this blog that the BBC are forever mis-reporting things so perhaps it is of interest. 'Non-domiciles' do not get out of paying UK tax. They simply pay tax on what they earn in the UK, but not on what they earn, and leave, abroad. If they bring overseas income here, then it's taxed here. Domiciled taxpayers pay tax on their worldwide income here, and that's the only difference. I know the BBC would have you believe that they pay nothing, but it's not true.

25 July 2008 at 19:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What you anonymously say probably only serves to confirm what they already know about what their worth is considered to be."

It must be wonderful excercising your Christianity at a distance and from the comfort of your chair. I bet you would change your tune very rapidly if you had any of these people parked next door to you and yours...

25 July 2008 at 20:30  
Blogger Ben Stevenson said...

Anonymous: "It must be wonderful excercising your Christianity at a distance and from the comfort of your chair. I bet you would change your tune very rapidly if you had any of these people parked next door to you and yours..."

Well actually I am sitting comfortably in a chair next to a window which has been smashed several times by local kids in the last year. I'm not completely ignorant of anti-social behaviour.

Why don't you post something productive. And stop using anonymity to allow yourself to insult others.

25 July 2008 at 20:55  
Anonymous Voyager said...

I suspect Wendy Alexander had a role in Labour meltdown. It is Scotland and they have an SNP Administration and a disastrous Scottish Labour Party facing an alternative that voters can use to kick the hated Scotsmen in London.

The cultural Catholicism of Irish settlers in Glasgow makes them alert to the trendy liberal rich betrayals of Labour whether in economic or socio-religious terms.

The snotty commentary don't think the low life scum that make up the majority of the electorate in Glasgow had God and Christianity in mind makes one reflect that simple fishermen were chosen as the first disciples rather than golf club members or Scribes

25 July 2008 at 21:36  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine all these Glasgow Catholics voting for a Mason

25 July 2008 at 22:14  
Blogger JaaJoe said...

I would highly suggest for you, and any one else interested to read the book ""The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and its Scientific Pretensions." by self-professed secular Jew and mathematics/philosophies teacher David Berlinski.
This tells the story of a Jew who was forced to dig his own grave prior to being shot by a German soldier. Prior to being shot, the old Jewish man advised the German that “God is watching what you are doing.” The Jewish gentleman pointed what i think is the real problem with atheism. "If you have the time please check the book out

26 July 2008 at 06:35  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Imagine all these Glasgow Catholics voting for a Mason

Winston Churchill was a Mason, Clement Attlee was a Mason....it is nowhere near the social handicap it should be.

26 July 2008 at 06:51  
Anonymous G Eagle Esq said...

Anon 17:39 ".... I don't think that the low life scum that make up the majority of the electorate in Glasgow had God and Christianity in mind when they voted SNP yesterday..."

Your Grace

mmmm

Perhaps this Anon could favour us with his views on what qualities are possessed by those who are NOT "low life scum"

It is interesting the small things on which larger events turns

Even when they constitute a small portion of "the low life scum", Christians can AND do make a difference

The SNP victory would NOT have happened if a mere 200 Believers had not moved their Votes from Labour to the SNP

??? Would Mrs Clinton have defeated Mr Obama if in closely run primaries, only a few thousand voteshad gone to oor Hilareh instead of going to oor Barak

I remain your Grace's obedient servant etc

G Eagle

26 July 2008 at 08:56  
Blogger Ben Stevenson said...

Voyager,
As far as I know, John Mason is not a Freemason. Fraser Nelson pointed out that surnames can carry meaning in a sectarian society.

"When I started as a reporter in the Scottish Parliament, I was told you can tell the Catholic MPs because their names start with Mc rather than protestant Mac."

26 July 2008 at 10:59  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

Your Grace

Much as I am consumed with glee at the kicking this government is deservedly getting, more sober reflection makes me wonder whether now that the writing is on the wall, there could be a rush by this Government to implement as much as possible of their libertarian agenda over the next 2 years.

Your Grace recently exposed the so called 'free vote' on reducing the limit for abortion, with the likes of Harman and her dominatrix sisterhood exercising their virtual whip over their submissive male colleagues.

A raft of pro-abortion measures could be steamrollered through in this way this Autumn.


What then?

27 July 2008 at 00:08  

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