Saturday, October 04, 2008

James MacMillan on the liberal élite’s 'ignorance-fuelled hostility to religion'

James MacMillan is one of the world’s foremost composers of sacred music. He is leading the UK’s Roman Catholic Church back to its era of greatness – and thereby setting an example to all the nation’s churches - eschewing all that is superficial, happy-clappy and inept; all that is constructed on three chords for the play-easy guitar, with a bridge, a catchy chorus and the all-so-predictable feel-good modulation. Cranmer will not name names, but they doubtless constitute Mr MacMillan’s ‘mists of contemporary banality’. And he reserves particular invective for the ‘liberal élite’ whom he accuses of using ‘increasingly aggressive means to drive religion out of public life and culture’.

There are so few composers today who even bother. There is greatness in Tavener, a convert to the Russian Orthodox Church, and the Church of England has Rutter, though he is deemed by many to be insufficiently ‘serious’. But the Protestant churches are no longer producing the Bachs or Handels, or even the Greenes or the Wesleys.

Yet even the greatest Protestant composers drew on Catholic liturgy because of its inherent greatness and splendour. There is something of the majesty of God in their requiems and masses, their anthems and magnificats, and this resonates all the more in an era typified by all that is materialistic and shallow.

But while Mr MacMillan blames a pathologically anti-Christian media, Cranmer would like to point the finger at Parliament and politicians too, for the Philistines have overrun the temple. The UK has seen decades of funding through the Arts Council to all manner of irrelevant, politically-correct, ethnic-quota-controlled, gender and sexuality-balanced ‘artistic’ initiatives, while the nation’s greatest have struggle for survival and some even bled to death.

It is not so much the ‘ignorance-fuelled hostility to religion’ which is supplanting the sacred with the secular – though it certainly a factor – but decades of political interference and assertions of 'neutrality' which inevitably yields all that is ‘bland and naïve’. And so Mr MacMillan identifies that the true creativity which is born of difference and plurality is subsumed to a Marxist agenda, and Art is ‘reduced to a lowest common denominator of uniformity and conformity, where any non-secular contribution will automatically be regarded as socially divisive by definition’.

There is not yet a secular orthodoxy, but Cranmer does not agree with Mr MacMillan when he says that such an agenda is failing. Whilst it is true that great art overcomes all opposition, there is no doubting that much creative energy is wasted in contending for the right to express the depths of one’s spirituality and the greatness of God. One can only wonder at the new glimpse of the Divine the world might have had if Beethoven had lived to complete his Requiem.

Mr MacMillan observes: ‘A smug ignorance, a gross oversimplification and caricature that serves as an analytical understanding of religion, is the common intellectual currency. The bridge has to be built by Christians and others being firm in resisting increasingly aggressive attempts to still their voices.’

And so the superficial and the banal must be confronted by the true greatness of a true and great faith. For our worship of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ cannot be reduced to clapping on 2 and 4 and hopping from foot to foot to three guitar chords and a drum kit from Asda. Church worship has been reduced to a theme from a soap opera, and the superficiality of secularism has corrupted the solemnity of the sacred.

It is indeed time to recover God's divine spark ‘which kindles the musical imagination now, as it has always done, and reminds us, in an increasingly dehumanised world, of what it means to be human’.


Blogger McKenzie said...

"Blessed Be The Name of The Lord!"
Two - Three - Four........

4 October 2008 at 12:22  
Anonymous oiznop said...

Your Grace,

You've forgoten the nursery school actions everyone has to do.

Banal isn't the word.

4 October 2008 at 12:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This man has a deep hatred of protestants. In Scotland his remarks on us have been a disgrace. I find him a bigot.
He is best ignored.

4 October 2008 at 12:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it a deep hatred of Protestants or Protestantism? What are these remarks? I'd expect an RC composer to dislike and criticise Protestantism, and if Graham Kendrick's a Protestant I'm with him.

4 October 2008 at 13:07  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

BEHOLD, o good and most sweet Jesus, I fall upon my knees before Thee, and with most fervent desire beg and beseech Thee that Thou wouldst impress upon my heart a lively sense of faith, hope and charity, true repentance for my sins, and a firm resolve to make amends. And with deep affection and grief, I reflect upon Thy five wounds, having before my eyes that which Thy prophet David spoke about Thee, o good Jesus: "They have pierced my hands and feet, they have counted all my bones." Amen.

EN EGO, o bone et dulcissime Iesu, ante conspectum tuum genibus me provolvo, ac maximo animi ardore te oro atque obtestor, ut meum in cor vividos fidei, spei et caritatis sensus, atque veram peccatorum meorum paenitentiam, eaque emendandi firmissimam voluntatem velis imprimere; dum magno animi affectu et dolore tua quinque vulnera mecum ipse considero ac mente contemplor, illud prae oculis habens, quod iam in ore ponebat tuo1 David propheta de te, o bone Iesu: Foderunt manus meas et pedes meos: dinumeraverunt omnia ossa mea. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 13:41  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

O GOOD Jesu, according to Thy great mercy, have mercy on me. O most merciful Jesu, by that Precious Blood which Thou didst will to shed for sinners, I beseech Thee to wash away all mine iniquities and to look graciously upon me, a poor and unworthy sinner, as I call upon Thy holy Name. Therefore, O Jesus, do Thou save me for Thy holy Name's sake. Amen.

O BONE Iesu, secundum magnam misericordiam tuam miserere mei. O clementissime Iesu, te deprecor per illum Sanguinem pretiosum, quem pro peccatoribus effundere voluisti, ut abluas omnes iniquitates meas et in me respicias miserum et indignum invocantem tuum sanctum Nomen. Ergo, Iesu, propter Nomen sanctum tuum salva me. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 13:42  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

[b]Prayer of St Columbanus (early Irish saint) [/b]

O MERCIFUL God and good Lord, how I wish Thou wouldst admit me to that fountain where I, along with others thirsting after Thee, may drink from the living stream of living waters of the fountain of life. May I ever linger above, delighted by this water's great sweetness and say "How sweet is this fountain of living water from which never fails, water welling up to eternal life."

O LORD, Thou art Thyself this fountain, ever and always to be desired, ever and always to be consumed. O Lord Jesus Christ, give to us always this water that it may be for us the fountain of living water welling up to eternal life. Yes, indeed, I ask for a great thing, who does not know this? But Thou, King of glory, know how to give great things and have promised great things. For nothing is greater than Thee, and Thou hast given Thyself to us, given Thyself for us.

THEREFORE we ask Thee, that we may know what we love, for we demand nothing else except Thyself to be given unto us. Thou art our all, our life, our light, our salvation, our food, our drink, our God. I ask Thee, Jesus, inspire our hearts with that breath of Thy Spirit and wound our souls with Thy love, so that each and every one of our souls may in truth say: "Show me that which my soul desires, for I am wounded by Thy love."

I WISH for these wounds, O Lord. Blessed is such a soul which is wounded so by love. Such a soul seeks the fountain and drinks of it, but always desiring more, always drinking more, always thirsting for more of that which it drinks. Likewise, the more a soul loves, the more it seeks that which wounded it. The more it is wounded, the more it is healed. May our Lord and God, Jesus Christ, the loving and healing physician, wound the depths of our souls with this healing wound- who with the Father and the Holy Spirit is one forever. Amen.

UTINAM me illuc dignares adsciscere ad illum fontem, Deus misericors, pie Domine, ut ibi et ego cum sitientibus tuis vivam undam vivi fontis aquae vivae biberem, cuius nimia dulcedine delectatus sursum semper ei haererem et dicerem: Quam dulcis est fons aquae vivae, cuius non deficit aqua saliens in vitam aeternam!

O DOMINE, tu es ipse iste fons, semper et semper desiderandus, semper licet et semper hauriendus. Nobis semper da, Domine, Christe, hanc aquam, ut sit in nobis quoque fons aquae vitae et salientis in vitam aeternam. Magna quidem posco, quis nesciat? Sed tu, rex gloriae, magna donare nosti et magna promisisti; nihil te maius, et te nobis donasti, te pro nobis dedis

UNDE te rogamus, ut sciamus quod amamus, quia nihil aliud praeter te nobis dari postulamus; tu es enim omnia nostra, vita nostra, lux nostra, salus nostra, cibus noster, potus noster, Deus noster. Inspira corda nostra, rogo, Iesu noster, illa tui Spiritus aura, et vulnera nostras tua caritate animas, ut possit uniuscuiusque nostrum anima in veritate dicere: Indica mihi quem dilexit anima mea, quoniam vulnera caritate ego sum

OPTO illa vulnera in me sint, Domine. Beata talis anima, quae caritate sic vulneratur; talis fontem quaerit, talis bibit, semper tamen sitit bibendo, semper haurit desiderando, quae semper bibit sitiendo; sic semper quaerit amando, quae sanatur vulnerando; quo salutari vulnere animae nostrae interiora Deus et Dominus noster Iesus Christus, pius ille salutarisque medicus, vulnerare dignetur, cui cum Patre et cum Spiritu Sancto unitas est in saecula saeculorum. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 13:48  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Prayer of St Francis

WE ADORE Thee, most holy Lord Jesus Christ, here and in all Thy churches that are in the whole world, and we bless Thee; because by Thy Holy Cross Thou hast redeemed the World. Amen.

ADORAMUS te, sanctissime Domine Iesu Christe, hic et ad omnes Ecclesias tuas, quae sunt in toto mundo, et benedicimus tibi; quia per sanctam Crucem tuam redemisti mundum. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 13:50  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

O GOD, who hast commanded us to honor our father and mother: in Thy mercy have pity on the souls of my father and mother (or the soul of my father, or the soul of my mother) and forgive them their trespasses (or forgive him his trespasses, or forgive her her trespasses); and make me to see them (or him, or her) again in the joy of everlasting brightness. Amen

DEUS, qui nos patrem et matrem honorare praecepisti: miserere clementer animabus patris et matris meae eorumque peccata dimitte (vel animae patris mei eiusque peccata dimitte, vel animae matris meae eiusque peccata dimitte): meque eos (vel meque eum, vel meque eam) in aeternae claritatis gaudio fac videre. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 13:53  
Anonymous road runner said...

"God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

That would be two gods, would it not? Old Testament justice g_d vs New Testament loving god.

4 October 2008 at 14:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bugs bunny,
you been smokin the good stuff?

4 October 2008 at 14:11  
Anonymous len said...

Road runner.
That is one God, two aspects, Justice and Grace,
Justice ,sin will not go unpunished
Grace , Jesus Christ has paid for your sin.(If you are born again, redeemed , whatever word you choose!.)

4 October 2008 at 14:16  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

INCLINE Thine ear, O Lord, unto our prayers, wherein we humbly pray Thee to show Thy mercy upon the soul of Thy servant N., whom Thou hast commanded to pass out of this world, that Thou wouldst place him in the region of peace and light, and bid him be a partaker with Thy Saints. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

INCLINA, Domine, aurem tuam ad preces nostras, quibus misericordiam tuam supplices deprecamur, ut animam famuli tui N., quam de hoc saeculo migrare iussisti, in pacis ac lucis regione constituas et Sanctorum tuorum iubeas esse consortem. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:20  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Kyrie, eleison. Christe, eleison. Kyrie, eleison. Lord, have mercy. Christ, have mercy. Lord, have mercy.

Our Father ....
V. And lead us not into temptation.
R. But deliver us from evil.

V. Save Thy servants.
R. Who hope in Thee, O my God.

V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto Thee.

V. The Lord be with you.
R. And with thy spirit.

Let us pray:
Reach forth, O Lord, to Thy servants and handmaids, the right hand of Thy heavenly help, that they may seek Thee with their whole heart, and what they worthily entreat, they may merit to obtain. Through Christ our Lord.
R. Amen.

Pater noster ....
V. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem.
R. Sed libera nos a malo.

V. Salvos fac servos tuos.
R. Deus meus, sperantes in te.

V. Domine, exaudi orationem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te veniat.

V. Dominus vobiscum.
R. Et cum spiritu tuo.

Praetende, Domine, famulis et famulabus tuis dexteram caelestis auxilii: ut te toto corde perquirant, et quae digne postulant, consequi mereantur. Per Christum Dominum nostrum.
R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:25  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Our Father ....
V. And lead us not into temptation.
R. But deliver us from evil.

V. Remember Thy congregation.
R. Which Thou hast possessed from the beginning.

V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto Thee.

V. The Lord be with you.
R. And with thy spirit.

Let us pray:
O God, whose property is always to have mercy and to spare, receive our petitions, and grant that we and all Thy servants who are bound by the chain of sin, may, by the compassion of Thy goodness, mercifully be absolved. Through Christ our Lord.
R. Amen.

Pater noster ....
V. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem.
R. Sed libera nos a malo.

V. Memento Congregationis tuae.
R. Quam possedisti ab initio.

V. Domine, exaudi orationem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te veniat.

V. Dominus vobiscum.
R. Et cum spiritu tuo

Deus, cui proprium est misereri semper et parcere: suscipe deprecationem nostram; ut nos, et omnes famulos tuos, quos delictorum catena constringit, miseratio tuae pietatis clementer absolvat. Per Christum Dominum nostrum.
R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bugs bunny,
there you go again,you goin for a record?

4 October 2008 at 14:29  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Our Father ....
V. And lead us not into temptation.
R. But deliver us from evil.

V. From the gate of hell.
R. O Lord, deliver their souls.

V. May they rest in peace.
R. Amen.

V. O Lord, hear my prayer.
R. And let my cry come unto Thee.

V. The Lord be with you.
R. And with thy spirit.

Let us pray:
Deliver, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the souls of Thy servants and handmaids, and all the faithful departed from the bonds of their sins: grant that they may live and breathe again in a glorious resurrection among all Thy Saints and Elect. Through Christ our Lord.
R. Amen.

Pater noster ....
V. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem.
R. Sed libera nos a malo.

V. A porta inferni.
R. Erue, Domine, animas eorum.

V. Requiescant in pace.
R. Amen.

V. Domine, exaudi orationem meam.
R. Et clamor meus ad te veniat.

V. Dominus vobiscum.
R. Et cum spiritu tuo.

Absolve, quaesumus, Domine, animas famulorum famularumque tuarum et omnium fidelium defunctorum, ab omni vinculo delictorum: ut in resurrectionis gloria inter Sanctos et Electos tuos resuscitati respirent. Per Christum Dominum nostrum.
R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:32  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

GRANT me Thy grace, most merciful Jesus, that it may be with me and work with me and persevere with me even to the end. Grant that I may always desire and will that which is to Thee most acceptable and most dear. Let Thy will be mine, and let my will ever follow Thine and agree perfectly with it. Let my willing and not-willing be all one with Thine, and let me not be able to will or not will anything else but what Thou willest or willest not. Amen.

CONCEDE mihi, benignissime Iesu, gratiam tuam, ut mecum sit et mecum laboret mecumque in finem usque perseveret. Da mihi hoc semper desiderare et velle, quod tibi magis acceptum est carius placet. Tua voluntas mea sit, et mea voluntas tuam semper sequatur, et optime ei concordet. Sit mihi unum velle et nolle tecum, nec aliud posse velle aut nolle, nisi quod Tu vis et nolis. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:34  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

GRANT unto us, Lord Jesus, ever to follow the example of Thy Holy Family, that in the hour of our death Thy glorious Virgin Mother together with blessed Joseph may come to meet us and we may be worthily received by Thee into Thy everlasting dwelling place: Who livest and reignest forever and ever. Amen.

FAC nos, Domine Iesu, sanctae Familiae tuae exempla iugiter imitari, ut in hora mortis nostrae, occurrente gloriosa Virgine Matre tua cum beato Ioseph, per te in aeterna tabernacula recipi mereamur: Qui vivis et regnas in saecula saeculorum. Amen

4 October 2008 at 14:35  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

By St Vincent Ferrier

LORD Jesus Christ, who willest that no man should perish, and to whom supplication is never made without hope of mercy, for Thou saidst with Thine own holy and blessed lips: "All things whatsoever ye shall ask in My name shall be done unto you"; I ask of Thee, O Lord, for Thy holy Name's sake, to grant me at the hour of my death full consciousness and the power of speech, sincere contrition for my sins, true faith, firm hope and perfect charity, that I may be able to say unto Thee with a clean heart: Into Thy hands I commend my spirit: Thou hast redeemed me, O God of truth, who art blessed for ever and ever. Amen.

DOMINE Iesu Christe, qui neminem vis perire, et cui numquam sine spe misericordiae supplicatur, nam Tu dixisti ore sancto tuo et benedicto: Omnia quaecumque petieritis in nomine meo, fient vobis; peto a te, Domine, propter nomen sanctum tuum, ut in articulo mortis meae des mihi integritatem sensus cum loquela, vehementem contritionem de peccatis meis, veram fidem, spem ordinatam, caritatem perfectam ut tibi puro corde dicere valeam: In manus tuas, Domine, commendo spiritum meum: redemisti me, Deus veritatis, qui es benedictus in saecula saeculorum. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:37  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bugs Bunny, are these prayers for the dead?

4 October 2008 at 14:38  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Depart, O Christian soul, out of this miserable world, in the name of God the Father Almighty, who created thee; in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, who suffered for thee; in the name of the Holy Ghost, who sanctified thee; in the name of the glorious and holy Mother of God, the Blessed Virgin Mary; in the name of Blessed Joseph. the illustrious spouse of the Blessed Virgin; in the name of the Angels, Archangels, Thrones, Dominations, Cherubim and Seraphim: in the name of the patriarchs and prophets, of the holy apostles and evangelists, of the holy martyrs and confessors, of the holy monks and hermits, of the holy virgins and of all the Saints of God; let thy place be this day in peace, and thy abode in holy Sion: Through the sanio Christ our Lord. R. Amen

Proficiscere, anima christiana, de hoc mundo, in nomine Dei Patris omnipotentis, qui te creavit: in nomine Iesu Christi, Filii Dei vivi, qui pro te passus est: in nomine Spiritus Sancti, qui in te effusus est: in nomine gloriosae et sanctae Dei Genetricis Virginis Mariae: in nomine beati Ioseph, inclyti eiusdem Virginis Sponsi: in nomine Angelorum et Archangelorum: in nomine Thronorum et Dominationum: in nomine Principatuum et Potestatum: in nomine Virtutum, Cherubim et Seraphim: in nomine Patriarcharum et Prophetarum: in nomine sanctorum Apostolorum et Evangelistarum: in nomine sanctorum Martyrum et Confessorum: in nomine sanctorum Monachorum et Eremitarum: in nomine sanctarum Virginum, et omnium Sanctorum et Sanctarum Dei. Hodie sit in pace locus tuus, et habitatio tua in sancta Sion. Per eundem Christum Dominum nostrum. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:40  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Mr Anonymous,

Some of them are. The above prayer is , as are the following ones:

4 October 2008 at 14:40  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

God of mercy, God of goodness, who according to the multitude of thy mercies, forgivest the sins of the repentant, and graciously remittest the guilt of their past offences, mercifully regard this thy servant, N., and grant him [her] a full discharge from all his [her] sins, who most earnestly begs it of Thee. Renew, O most merciful Father whatever is corrupt in him [her] through human frailty, or by the snares of the enemy; make him [her] a true member of the Church, and let him [her] partake of the fruit of Thy redemption. Have compassion, O Lord, on his [her] tears, and admit him [her], who has no hope but in Thee, to the sacrament of Thy reconciliation: Through Christ our Lord. R. Amen.

Deus misericors, Deus clemens, Deus qui secundum multitudinem miserationum tuarum peccata paenitentium deles, et praeteritorum criminum culpas venia remissionis evacuas: respice propitius super hunc famulum tuum N. (hanc famulam tuam N.), et remissionem ominum peccatorum suorum tota cordis confessione poscentem deprecatus exaudi. Renova in eo (ea), piissime Pater, quidquid terrena fragilitate corruptum, vel quidquid diabolica fraude violatum est; et unitati corporis Ecclesiae membrum redemptionis annecte Miserere, Domine, gemituum, miserere lacrimarum eius; et, non habentem fiduciam, nisi in tua misericordia, ad tuae sacramentum reconciliationis admitte. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:41  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

I commend thee, dear brother [sister], to Almighty God and commit thee to His mercy, whose creature thou art; that, having paid the common debt by surrendering thy soul, thou mayest return to thy Maker, who formed thee out of the earth. May, therefore, the noble company of Angels meet thy soul at its departure; may the court of the Apostles receive thee; may the triumphant army of glorious martyrs; meet thee; may the crowd of joyful confessors encompass thee; may the choir of blessed virgins go before thee; and may a happy rest be thy portion in the company of the patriarchs. May St. Joseph. the most tender patron of the dying, inspire thee with a great hope; may the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God, kindly look upon thee. May Jesus Christ appear to thee with a mild and cheerful countenance, and give thee a place among those who are to be in His presence forever. Mayest thou be a stranger to all who are condemned to darkness, chastised with flames, and punished with torments. May God command thy wicked enemy, with all his evil spirits, to depart from thee. At thy approach, encompassed by Angels, may the infernal spirits tremble and retire into the horrid confusion of eternal night. May thy God arise, and thy enemies be put to flight. May all who hate Him fly before His face; let them vanish like smoke, or as wax before the fire, so let sinners perish in the sight of God. But as to the just, let them rejoice and be happy in His presence. May all the legions of hell be filled with confusion and shame, and let no evil spirit dare to stop thy course to heaven. May Christ Jesus, who was crucified for thee, deliver thee from torments; may He deliver thee from eternal death, who for thy sake vouchsafed to die. May Christ Jesus, the Son of the living God, place thee in His garden of paradise; and may He, the true Shepherd, own thee for one of His flock. May He absolve thee from all thy sins, and place thee at His right hand, in the inheritance of His elect. Oh! may it be thy happiness to behold thy Redeemer face to face; to be ever in His presence, in the beatific vision of that Eternal Truth which is the joy of the blessed. And thus placed among those happy spirits, mayest thou be forever filled with heavenly sweetness. R. Amen.

Commendo te omnipotenti Deo, carissime frater (carissima soror), et ei, cuius es creatura, committo ; ut, cum humanitatis debitum morte interveniente persoveris, ad auctorem tuum qui te de limo terrae formaverat, revertaris. Egredienti itaque animae tuae de corpore splendidus Angelorum coetus occurrat: iudex Apostolorum tibi senatus adveniat: candidatorum tibi Martyrum triumphator exercitus obviet: liliata rutilantium te Confessorum turma circumdet: iubilantium te Virginum chorus excipiat: et beatae quietis in sinu Patriarcharum te complexus astringat: sanctus Ioseph, morientium Patronus dulcissimus, in magnam spem te erigat: sancta Dei Genetrix Virgo Maria suos benigna oculos ad te convertat: mitis atque festivus Christi Iesu tibi aspectus appareat, qui te inter assistentes sibi iugiter interesse decernat. Ignores omne quod horret in tenebris, quod stridet in flammis, quod cruciat in tormentis. Cedat tibi teterrimus satanas cum satellitibus suis: in adventu tuo, te comitantibus Angelis, contremiscat, atque in aeternae noctis chaos immane diffugiat. Exsurgat Deus, et dissipentur inimici eius, et fugiant qui oderunt eum, a facie eius. Sicut deficit fumus, deficiant: sicut fluit cera a facie ignis, sic pereant peccatores a facie Dei: et iusti epulentur, et exsultent in conspectu Dei. Confundantur igitur et erubescant omnes tartareae legiones, et ministri satanae iter tuum impedire non audeant. Liberet te a cruciatu Christus, qui pro te crucifixus est. Liberet te ab aeterna morte Christus, qui pro te mori dignatus est. Constituat te Christus, Filius Dei vivi, intra paradisi sui semper amoena virentia, et inter oves suas te verus ille Pastor agnoscat. Ille ab omnibus peccatis tuis te absolvat, atque ad dexteram suam in electorum suorum te sorte constituat. Redemptorem tuum facie ad faciem videas, et, praesens semper assistens, manifestissimam beatis oculis aspicias veritatem. Constitutus (-a) igitur inter agmina Beatorum, contemplationis divinae dulcedine potiaris in saecula saeculorum. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:42  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Receive Thy servant, O Lord, into that place, where Thy servant [Thy handmaid] may hope for salvation from Thy mercy. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant from all the dangers of hell, and from all pain and tribulation. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Enoch and Elias from the common death of the world. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Noah in the flood. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Abraham from the midst of the Chaldeans. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Job from all his afflictions. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Isaac from being sacrificed by his father. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Lot from Sodom and the flames of fire. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Moses from the hands of Pharaoh, King of Egypt. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Daniel from the lions' den. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver the three children from the fiery furnace and from the hands of an unmerciful king. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Susanna from her false accusers. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver David from the hands of Saul and Goliath. R. Amen.

Deliver, O Lord, the soul of Thy servant, as Thou didst deliver Peter and Paul out of prison. R. Amen.

And, as Thou didst deliver that blessed virgin and martyr, St. Thecla, from most cruel torments, so vouchsafe to deliver the soul of this Thy servant, and bring it to the participation of Thy heavenly joys. R. Amen.

Suscipe, Domine, servum tuum (ancillam tuam) in locum sperandae sibi salvationis a misericordia tua. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae) ex omnibus periculis inferni, et de laqueis poenarum, et ex omnibus tribulationibus. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Henoch et Eliam de communi morte mundi. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Noe de diluvio. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Abraham de Ur Chaldaeorum. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Iob de passionibus suis. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Isaac de hostia, et de manu patris sui Abrahae. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Lot de Sodomis, et de flamma ignis. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Moysen de manu pharaonis regis Aegyptiorum. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Danielem de lacu leonum. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti tres pueros de camino ignis ardentis, et de manu regis iniqui. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Susannam de falso crimine. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti David de manu regis Saul, et de manu Goliae. R. Amen.

Libera, Domine, animam servi tui (ancillae tuae), sicut liberasti Petrum et Paulum de carceribus. R. Amen.

Et sicut beatissimam Theclam Virginem et Martyrem tuam de tribus atrocissimis tormentis liberasti, sic liberare digneris animam huius servi tui ( ancillae tuae), et tecum facias in bonis congaudere caelestibus. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:47  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

We commend to Thee, O Lord, the soul of this Thy servant N., and beseech Thee, O Jesus Christ, Redeemer of the world, that, as in Thy mercy to him [her] Thou becamest man, so now Thou wouldst vouchsafe to admit him [her] into the number of the blessed. Remember, O Lord, that he [she] is Thy creature, not made by strange gods, but by Thee, the only true and living God; for there is no other God but Thee, and none can work Thy wonders. Let his [her] soul find comfort in The sight, and remember not his [her] former sins, nor any of those excesses which he [she] has fallen into, through the violence of passion and corruption. For although he [she] has sinned, yet he [she] has still retained a true faith in Thee, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; he [she] has had a zeal for Thy honor, and faithfully adored Thee as God and the Creator of all things.

Commendamus tibi, Domine, animam famuli tui N. (famulae tuae N.), precamurque te, Domine Iesu Christe, Salvator mundi, ut, propter quam ad terram misericorditer descendisti, Patriarcharum tuorum sinibus ininuare non renuas. Agnosce, Domine, creaturam tuam, non a diis alienis creatam, sed a te, solo Deo vivo et vero; quia non est alius Deus praeter te, et non est secundum opera tua. Laetifica, Domine, animam eius in conspectu tuo; et ne memineris iniquitatum eius antiquarum et ebrietatum, quas suscitavit furor sive fervor mali desiderii. Licet enim peccaverit, tamen Patrem, et Filium, et Spiritum Sanctum non negavit, sed credidit; et zelum Dei in se habuit, et Deum, qui fecit omnia, fideliter adoravit.

4 October 2008 at 14:50  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Remember not, O Lord, the sins and ignorances of his [her] youth; but according to The great mercy, be mindful of him [her] in Thy eternal glory. Let the heavens be opened to him [her], and let the Angels rejoice with him [her]. May St. Michael, the Archangel, the chief of the heavenly host, conduct him [her]; may the blessed Angels of God meet him [her] and lead him [her] into the heavenly city Jerusalem; may blessed Peter, the Apostle, to whom were given the keys of the kingdom of heaven, receive him [her]; may holy Paul, the Apostle, and chosen vessel of election, assist him [her]; may St. John, the beloved Disciple, to whom the secrets of heaven were revealed, intercede for him [her]; may all the holy Apostles, to whom was given the power of binding and loosing, pray for him [her]; may all the chosen servants and blessed martyrs of God, who, in this world, have suffered torments for the sake of Christ, intercede for him [her]; that, being delivered from this body of corruption, he [she] may be admitted into the kingdom of heaven: Through the assistance and merits of our Lord Jesus Christ, who liveth and reigneth with the Father and the Holy Ghost, world without end. R. Amen.

Delicta iuventutis et ignorantias eius, quaesumus, ne memineris, Domine; sed secundum magnam misericordiam tuam memor esto illius in gloria claritatis tuae. Aperiantur ei caeli, collaetentur illi Angeli. In regnum tuum, Domine, servum tuum (ancillam tuam) suscipe. Suscipiat eum (eam) sanctus Michael Archangelus Dei, qui militiae caelestis meruit principatum. Veniant illi obviam sancti Angeli Dei, et perducant eum (eam) in civitatem caelestem, Ierusalem. Suscipiat eum (eam) beatus Petrus Apostolus, cui a Deo claves regni caelestis traditae sunt. Adiuvet eum (eam) sanctus Paulus Apostolus, qui dignus fuit esse vas electionis. Intercedat pro eo (ea), Sanctus Ioannes, electus Dei Apostolus, cui revelata sunt secreta caelestia. Orent pro eo (ea) omnes sancti Apostoli, quibus a Domino data est potestas ligandi atque solvendi. Intercedant pro eo (ea) omnes Sancti et Electi Dei, qui pro Christi nomine tormenta in hoc saeculo sustinuerunt; ut, vinculis carnis exutus (-a), pervenire mereatur ad gloriam regni caelestis, praestante Domino nostro Iesu Christo: Qui cum Patre et Spiritu Sancto vivit et regnat in saecula saeculorum. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:51  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

May the most tender Virgin Mary, Mother of God, the kindest comforter of those that mourn, commend the soul of N., her servant, to her Son, that through her motherly intervention he [she] may not fear the terrors of death, but may with her help, in gladness reach the desire of his [her] heart, our dwelling-place in our heavenly country. R. Amen.

Clementissima Virgo Dei Genetrix, Maria, maerentium piissima consolatrix, famuli (-ae) N. spiritum Filio suo commendet: ut, hoc materno interventu, terrores mortis non timeat; sed desideratam caelestis patriae mansionem, ea comite, laetus (-a) adeat. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:52  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

To thee, o blessed Joseph, patron of the dying, may I have recourse. By thy most beloved ones, Jesus and Mary, who held watch at thy holy passing away, I earnestly recommend to thee the soul of this faithful servant N. in his [her] agony, that under thy protection he [she] may be preserved from the wiles of the devil and from eternal death, and that he [she] may be found worthy to enter everlasting joy. Through the same Christ our Lord. R. Amen

Ad te confugio, sancte Ioseph, Patrone morientium, tibique, in cuius beato transitu vigiles adstiterunt Iesus et Maria, per hoc utrumque carissimum pignus, animam huius famuli (-ae) N. in extremo agone laborantem enixe commendo, ut ab insidiis diaboli, et a morte perpetua, te progente, liberetur, et ad gaudia aeterna pervenire mereatur. Per eundem Christum Dominum nostrum. R. Amen.

4 October 2008 at 14:53  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Liturgical prayers from Roman Missal. Others from saints, popular prayers etc.

©copyrighted by Michael Martin (not me)

4 October 2008 at 14:56  
Blogger McKenzie said...

Bugs Bunny

There's this place I have heard of where the dreams that you dream of really do come true.
Once in a lullaby you may say, but I think if you wish upon a star you could wake up where the clouds are far behind you, where trouble melts like lemon drops, high above the chimney tops, that's where you will find me.
And the dream that you dare to dream, oh why can't I, where I hear babies cry, and I watch them grow, they will learn more than we will know, and I think to myself, what a wonderful world.

4 October 2008 at 15:04  
Blogger Elby the Beserk said...

No problem with religion as long as you keep it to yourselves and stop foisting it on others, and out of the public eye. It's just big time superstition after all; if it helps, fine, but, please - keep it amongst yourselves, ok?

Example - there's a bloke, lives in London, claims his "moral compass" comes from his being a "son of the manse". Whilst we all know, he is a liar of the worst sort, a backstabber, and a war criminal. Gives religion a bad name. And his predecessor.

So, please, please, between consenting adults and behind closed doors, yes?

4 October 2008 at 16:03  
Anonymous fruitcake said...

Patience Elby, it will happen.

4 October 2008 at 17:36  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

Your Grace says that James McMillan is leading the Catholic Church back to its era of greatness.

If only...

Meanwhile, back to the Missa Happi-Clappica.


4 October 2008 at 17:50  
Blogger Dave said...

It's true that most critics of religion don't know what they're talking about. I was one once. I also had some conversations (after I became a Christian) with some young adults and it was clear that religious lessons in school had only confused them further. (This is of course the effect that our educators were hoping for)

I started attending a Bible study so that I could argue more effectively against Christianity. However the more I studied the more I realised the truth that Jesus died for my sins, and that truth set me free.

However, I can't abide church. I hate the music. I hate the hypocrisy (mostly emanating from me). I despise the fact that as in any organised gathering, people come together in order to have their prejudices affirmed.

Yours, an anti-religious sinner who has more in common with the publican than the pharisee

4 October 2008 at 18:36  
Blogger Jenny said...

Just got back - no happy-clappy where I go. Worse.

'Love divine' is the opening hymn, to the familiar (but by far not the best) tune; an attempt by the organist at a steady pace is shattered by the drunken man from the local assylum (not kidding) who drowns us all out and sings at his own pace. There's a movement by a stalwart few to keep it on track. Regrettably the organist isn't one of them. But then, he likes to get faster towards the end of each line and then start the next slower than he started the last one. If you're still with me, you're doing better than 90% of the congregation do with him. Sung responsorial psalm - by the fourth verse we've picked up the tune for the response. Just. Then we have to have 'All things bright and beautiful' as the offertory hymn - right where, liturgically-speaking, you're supposed to have silence. Then that dreadful Sanctus, which might sound nice, if this weren't an RC church so we have it as a dirge, which leads me to accidentally begin the wrong words at the start of one line because I've fallen asleep and I'm sure we must be further on by now. Agnus in the same style, but they can't count that and the accompaniment isn't written with anything that might lead a non-musical person to work out where the next line starts either. 10 people manage to sing the hymn at communion 'cos it goes above the 'c' above middle 'c' (for us girls). Which should be easily achievable even by a halfway decent alto. Then 'The Mass is ended, go in the PEACE and joy of Christ' (emphasis mine). If only. Estelle Shite on the way out. I refuse to join in; even trained singers like me can't make it through the whole of a sentence in one of her rubbish efforts without drawing breath, although we manage it rather more prettily than the rest - huge rasping breaths, sometimes in the middle of words.

No, I'm sorry, James wassisface can write all the good tunes he likes. It's still like giving a Rolls Royce to someone who can't park a Nissan Micra.

And there are great people in the Anglican communion who are, or at least could be, writing fine, singable music with worship of God in mind, but they've all been seconded by the Beeb to write re-arrangements of existing tunes to fit whatever instruments they've managed to get together for this week's Songs of Praise. They get paid by the bar, by the way, which is why they have all those silly introductions and every verse past verse two has its own descant.

Anyway, doesn't H Purcell count? He wasn't interested in Catholic texts. Verse Anthems, anyone?

4 October 2008 at 18:49  
Anonymous len said...

elby the beserk,
God hates religion!.
Religion is used by man to control people!
Latin was used only by scholars ,and was used as a lever to control people who needed priests to decipher it!!
The simple relationship people had with Jesus was hijacked by unscrupulous men for their own gain, power, wealth,and ambition.
Don`t Judge Christ by the corrupt religious systems of this world!.

4 October 2008 at 18:58  
Anonymous Brita said...

No, Elby, I refute your dictum.

I say you regurgitate Marxist Catechism at us. BTW, in American-Marxist (?euSSR) classes they also teach "forget about being English."

I put forward for your consideration, therefore, the venerable idea that, when someone believes in a religion, its doctrines and the way the individual reacts to them inform the whole person. Consequently, religion determines every thought, word, and deed of the person, including his communal activities. If, as in the case of the wicked boy from the manse, the individual misinterprets or misapplies the religion, then he practices religiosity: and that is a different thing.

Further, when Marxists misapply Christianity, they commit not only hypocrisy but also plagiarism! Further still if an intelligent or well educated Marxist-'Secularist' fails to recognize the religious nature of his doctrine: then I say he's a ruddy sepulchre!! OK?

On the grounds, therefore, that no Christian Englishwoman can comply with your directive, I refuse to do so.

4 October 2008 at 19:13  
Anonymous Brita said...

P.S. Elby - the word 'ruddy' is not crude or vulgar: it is English; and by it I indicate bright, shining, red.

4 October 2008 at 19:34  
Anonymous Brita said...

P.P.S: So yes, Your Grace! Bring on the Christian music, and with it the life and language of our British culture!

Perhaps I differ slightly in longing for the return of those wonderful Wesleyan hymns; but not, I trust in advocating return of the liturgy and scripture to which Your Grace contributed so greatly!!!

4 October 2008 at 19:44  
Anonymous Brita said...

PPPS: Bugs Bunny - thanks. I plan to read your prayers throughout today and tomorrow. Good revision for my Latin, too!

(Your Grace: another reason why some of us return to your site several times a day: to read and inwardly digest all your posts - and also the responses to them. It's my favorite site; so I don't want to be unwelcome!!)

4 October 2008 at 19:52  
Anonymous church guitarist said...

This is one of my favourite hymns. IMHO it stands up pretty well in comparison to Wesley et al. But I realise that as a guitarist my opinion probably doesn't count for much ;)

"In Christ Alone"
Words and Music by Keith Getty & Stuart Townend
Copyright © 2001 Kingsway Thankyou Music

In Christ alone my hope is found;
He is my light, my strength, my song;
This cornerstone, this solid ground,
Firm through the fiercest drought and storm.
What heights of love, what depths of peace,
When fears are stilled, when strivings cease!
My comforter, my all in all—
Here in the love of Christ I stand.

In Christ alone, Who took on flesh,
Fullness of God in helpless babe!
This gift of love and righteousness,
Scorned by the ones He came to save.
Till on that cross as Jesus died,
The wrath of God was satisfied;
For ev'ry sin on Him was laid—
Here in the death of Christ I live.

There in the ground His body lay,
Light of the world by darkness slain;
Then bursting forth in glorious day,
Up from the grave He rose again!
And as He stands in victory,
Sin's curse has lost its grip on me;
For I am His and He is mine—
Bought with the precious blood of Christ.

No guilt in life, no fear in death—
This is the pow'r of Christ in me;
From life's first cry to final breath,
Jesus commands my destiny.
No pow'r of hell, no scheme of man,
Can ever pluck me from His hand;
Till He returns or calls me home—
Here in the pow'r of Christ I'll stand.

4 October 2008 at 21:03  
Blogger McKenzie said...

Church does my head in also. I wish I could find one where I feel at home. I can't do all the pious speak and then go back to work and resemble the expectations of my fellow effers and blinders.
Its a dilemma, a real one. Any mention of church or Christianity is equal to announcing one's desire to come out of the homosexual closet. I am not making this up because I have tried in the past. One's faith is very important and means a lot, so its only natural to try and declare it to others, but you soon learn and adjust to the sound of the crowing cock.
The only church I see working class people going in to in any numbers is RC. But as Jenny has pointed out, the service is not very inspirational. Well, unfair comment, I suppose it depends where you go, but for me it lacks something, and I don't like the mantras. My local C of E is a waste of alloted space, the Rev is too involved with his own Oxford-induced intellectual status. And the happy slappy free houses have been discussed already. I have tried to attend a few, and suffered major panic attacks brought on by severe self conscious embarrassment as I attempted to blend in by jumping around and waving my hands in the air, emulating the speaking in tongues and hysterical body movements (I am sweating as I type).
A lot of this is down to me, but I have come to realise that its not just me though is it? I think the easiest thing for me would be to become a monk and shut myself out in my own pious surroundings, but this is not the answer. I say to myself "what the hell do you want man?" I know its not meant to be easy, no body has ever suggested that it should be easy. In the mean time its back to work on Tuesday to have an effin blinder of a day.
Can one of you church leaders set up some kind of church for normal people who do not speak like they have dropped out of the sky, and who work with secular people of all kinds, varying from the deep base moronic and superficial, to the out right satanic and perverse? I would really appreciate this. If not, don't worry about it because I have basically accepted the fact that I will be going into the ground on a wing and a prayer with fingers crossed and a repentant heart.

PS. This bloody word verification also does my head in.

4 October 2008 at 21:05  
Anonymous church guitarist said...

PS Len at 18.58 and Brita at 19.13 - hear hear!

4 October 2008 at 21:16  
Blogger McKenzie said...

Its of no value to anyone when we spit pious words at people who have had to go through an education system where they have been pumped with anti Christian values. This to me is simply self righteousness. I personally fall way short of the mark, and only wish that my every thought word and deed was in line and was determined by my faith...oh to be perfect.
But if confronted with out right accusation that my faith is merely religiosity, I would definitely feel frustrated and angry enough to grasp one about the throat.

4 October 2008 at 21:32  
Blogger McKenzie said...

I am not condoning violence here by the way, any more than I did invent it; I m simply saying that I know how Peter felt when he drew his sword and did a bit of ear slicing in the Garden of G. Violence should never be an option, but expect to be swarmed by it if you go poking sticks into wasp's nets.

4 October 2008 at 21:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa! All the copy and paste artists are out in force.

Here is a little something for y'all to chew on.

4 October 2008 at 22:01  
Anonymous Highlander said...

I feel quite confident that God is entirely happy to receive worship accompanied by three chords on a guitar if that is an expression of a congregation's heartfelt devotion and the most appropriate use of local gifts and musical abilities. There is triviality and banality in much modern worship, we know, but I find much criticism scarcely more than thinly-disguised musical snobbery. We ought to be more understanding of one another and far less dismissive, Your Grace.

4 October 2008 at 23:07  
Anonymous Brita said...

McKenzie - My apologies due again! So here goes:)

Of course I know that our religion knows only One Perfect Man or Christ. I should have explained better.... Nobody ever taught me that followers of Christ become magically perfect because they've heard His teaching!

Rather, I mean that each individual interacts with His doctrine in a cycle of thought, word, and deed. Deeds involve external interactions, which then feed and enlighten the next lot of thoughts, words, deeds, etc. etc. It's a long process; and it's hard work!!!

So it goes: as a fallen soul on this earth, I have hypocrisy and religiosity in myself. We fell away from Truth, didn't we? However, the Judaeo-Christian Religion has taught me what hypocrisy and religiosity are - and also that I must continually process the "beam in my own eye." Right here and right now, by the look of it!

Still, I see it as part of my pilgrimage through the cycles that I should defend my right to depict Marxist sepulchres as red. Don't Marxists like red? And if they've made sepulchres for our children, should we pretend we haven't noticed? Red's for danger, too, isn't it?

At the same time, I allude to Christian allegory and suggest that Marxist doctrine uses the life blood of its adherents to feed outside show instead of inner health. Does it not?

I am, in fact, also telling the brothers that they offend me: because Marxists and their 'secularist' disciples seek to imprison Christians in some updated version of the catacombs. This makes them the ones who've stuck the stick into our's also called Persecution of Christians. Weren't we on earth 2000 years before the marxists?

If Marxists then retaliate to my response by drawing my blood: me, a poor, defenceless, old, woman (who btw rejects the sisterhood)... Amen.

5 October 2008 at 00:31  
Anonymous knuckledragger said...

The Devil has all the best tunes.

5 October 2008 at 01:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Them's tunes? I thought they were drones and moans and groans.

5 October 2008 at 01:41  
Anonymous ever and anon said...

My Dad says: "The Red Flag" is just "Happy Birthday" played backwards...

5 October 2008 at 02:00  
Anonymous Chris said...

Rutter is an atheist. True.

5 October 2008 at 08:45  
Anonymous len said...

I think that the whole christian thing has been confused because the truth has been covered by some many lies!.
Religion (of whatever sort), is a rule book, ie don`t do that, do this,follow the rules ,you`ll be ok!.
Problem is man is a fallen being, he can`t follow the rulebook!
God gives the born again christian a new spirit, which replaces the old corrupt spirit!.
The christian needs then to renew his mind,( which was wrongly programmed by the old corrupt spirit!.This is the good news, the gospel,Gods plan for the salvation of the human race!.

5 October 2008 at 11:31  
Anonymous martin sewell said...

it is not often that I take issue with your Grace, and I have nothing against the height and breadth of grandure available within the musical traditions of many Churches. I do however offer a defence of what others might describe as over simplicity. Having recently been on a course of ministry designed to include the learning disabled, I took a service at a Church during an interegnum taking with me an amplifier, ipod and a simple chorus containing nothing but the words "The Father himself loves you" which we played during the distribution with the bread and the wine being distributed wordlessly but rather with the sentiment being signed to each communicant.

It was profoundly simple and conveyed the truth in a way that all the Latin above fails to do. I did not, incidentally, know that they made SPAM in bunny flavour.

When the lady administering the chalice handed it back to me after the distribution, she spontaneously signed to me "The father above loves you - and me". In simplicity, we all simply "got it" .

5 October 2008 at 15:35  
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5 October 2008 at 15:55  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Sewell,

His Grace has absolutely no hesitation in affirming the ministry approach to which you refer. His grievance is against those ministers who treat everyone as if they were 'learning disabled'. It is the ever-increasing reduction to the lowest denominator that is patronising, unfulfilling, and (ultimately) a stumbling block to worship.

5 October 2008 at 16:20  
Anonymous Fran said...

14And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.


20Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD.

22And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

23Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.'

Taken from 2 Samuel Ch 6

Your Grace, I fear that your sentiments - and indeed, those of several of your commenters - reflect too closely the contempt of Michal, Saul's wife for the extravagant worship offered by her husband, King David.

The worship offered in Churches such as Macmillan et al criticise, speaks to - and is offered by - many whose upbringing and culture leave them totally unmoved by Prayer Book worship and the words of the KJV. Do you really think that God is offended by what they offer in worship? Because I don't, and I speak as one who was brought up in the high tradition of Anglican worship. Indeed I sang a full choral evensong in a magnificent Peak District parish Church yesterday.

It seems to me that religious pride is far more damning to the soul than the honest, simple worship which graces those churches which reach out to areas of unchurched society rejected by the worship snobs - Catholic and Protestant - who gave up on them years ago. Too many of the comments here reflect an aesthetic religious gluttony whose delicacy is offended by what it conceives of as 'junk-food' worship - as opposed to the 'gourmet' worship of the initiated.

And if further evidence were needed, it's the Evangelical 'happy clappy' churches which are bearing the fruit of converts to the Christian faith. Whereas too many of those churches who sneer at them endure the continuing barreness of Michal.

6 October 2008 at 09:39  
Anonymous Rebel Saint said...

Most churches choose to live in a particular historic era. For most churches this is usually an era about 20 years behind the popular culture of the day. However it seems to be particularly pious, holy & righteous you've got to stick to an era about 300 years out of date. Sad, because in their day those churches were actually AHEAD of popular culture rather than copying it.

Most revivals have been accompanied by music in the current genre ... i.e. Wesley & Booths.

Get over it culture snobs.

6 October 2008 at 10:08  
Anonymous church mouse said...

Culture snobs? Now who's confrontational? But people who don't find beauty in your way aren't allowed to stand up for themselves, right?

We'd better just "shut up and put up" with strangers who "invade our personal space" (note my modern lingo), right?

6 October 2008 at 18:49  
Anonymous Fran said...

Church mouse

'But people who don't find beauty in your way aren't allowed to stand up for themselves, right? '

Rebel Saint's point precisely.

Are you quite sure that Churches are your 'personal space'? Aren't they supposed to be the living, worshipping Body of Christ reaching out with His blessing of salvation to a lost world? Never mind, though. Just carry on seeing people with different cultural approaches as 'strangers', and you soon won't have to worry about anyone else invading your 'personal space' with their worship!

6 October 2008 at 19:27  
Anonymous church mouse said...

Mr. Mrs. or Ms. Fran:

1) I do not say that any church is my personal space.

2) I do not say that "people with different cultural approaches" are necessarily strangers.

3) Your terminology is as alien to me as people I have never met; or as people whose command of English is limited.

4) I reserve the right to decide who touches me, shakes my hand, hugs me, or drinks from the same cup as me, etc.

5) I shall continue to do so, whether or not you approve.

6) I have encountered many cultures in my time; some appeal to me, and some do not.

7) Your culture does not, Sir or Madam; and that is because you presume.

7 October 2008 at 03:42  
Blogger Joshua said...

“This was the hand that wrote it, therefore it shall suffer first punishment.”

I am adrift in the sea of your ecclesiastical word-smith-ness...


7 October 2008 at 14:32  
Blogger Elby the Beserk said...

To all my admirers

1. I am not nor ever have been a Marxist

2. I am well aware of the meaning of "ruddy" (BA. Oxon, Eng. Lit & Lang, 1972).

3. I have no problem with the JC. Fine upstanding feller, but I truly believe he would be as horrified as I am at the mummer of organised hierarchical religion.

You see - I believe in a divine spirit, but I don't shove my version of such matters down others' throats, or deem my way to be the only way.

I have no doubt that the C of E & the Roman Catholic church do far far more harm than good. Shut them down, or make them private clubs that play no part in the state.

7 October 2008 at 15:48  
Anonymous Brita said...

Elby - Oh, well! Marxism and socialism never touched anybody around ELit in those days or in that place!

I imagine you protest again - and, of course, you need not have espoused communist ideas just because you were there. Neither did you have to accept Christianity, obviously. Equally clearly, nobody imprisoned either religion "behind closed doors."

You thus remained free to think for yourself and to make your choices; you made them; and presumably nobody has penalized you for doing so. The society that privileged you with superlative education may even have continued to reward you.

Coming from an England contemporary with the one you experienced, I'm a product of CoE-Protestant culture. Even though I questioned the teaching of religion and remained agnostic for many years, nobody ever "rammed the religion down my throat." Over time and through experience, however, the wisdom of the doctrine surfaced for me. My gratitude for knowledge of it defies expression.

I would not deprive others of the benefits I have experienced. That is what you call for, and that is why I oppose you.

Indeed, I pray: "Almighty God, preserve the freedoms of Christian Britain and the virtue of your Established Church. Let us continue to praise you in the music, language, and art of people indigenous to this land. Show us the way to furnish our young with the knowledge of Your tradition; and send them grace to incorporate that understanding into their new stand against Your old enemy: for Your honour and glory, now and forever. Amen."

8 October 2008 at 09:17  

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