Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Politics will be about ‘managing the culture clashes’

This statement of considerable foresight is a curious departure from the Conservatives’ everything-in-the-garden-is-rosy approach to policy proposals as they consider Britain under a Cameron-led government. Paul Goodman MP - Shadow Minister for Local Government and Community Cohesion – has warned that Birmingham will experience increasing civil unrest as the City Council is ‘increasingly forced to deal with “cultural clashes” between people of different ethnic groups or religions’.

It is a curious comment because (almost at the invitation of The Guardian) he echoes precisely what Enoch Powell warned of in that very city exactly 40 years ago, and Tories tread very carefully indeed before even alluding to the issue. Of course, Mr Goodman is no classicist - and so the Roman is not invoked and neither is the Tiber swimming with blood - but he is well-versed in theology, being of Jewish extraction and Roman Catholic persuasion. And as a former comment editor of The Daily Telegraph he is fully aware of the meaning and power of words. Yet still he has chosen to warn of ‘religious and ethnic clashes’.

He even refers to the inevitability of a time when ‘white people (will be in) a minority’, which is likely to happen by 2027, based on current trends.

But his warning is stark and depressing, as he admits that ‘national governments could do little to deal with the tensions that might arise’. It will simply be for local councils to resolve disputes and ‘deal with competing claims of ethnic groups’.

And these irreconcilable competing claims centre around the ‘different value systems’ and ‘different outlooks’ which are intrinsic to plurality. The meaning is covert, implicit, but for those who have eyes and ears Mr Goodman speaks prophetically as one crying in the wilderness of a time when the nation will be plagued by inter-ethnic riots and pockets of civil war which will make the ‘poll tax’ riots look like a veritable walk in the park.

“The art of politics,” he says, “is going to be managing the culture clashes.”

Is not that a depressing future for our nation, our children, and for those who aspire to politics? Economics, education, welfare, health, agriculture, the environment, etc., etc., are all to be subsumed to ‘managing culture clashes’.

And a principal one he highlights is the one identified by Cranmer some years ago. He says:

“I think the attitude of Muslims in cities on licensing, even on the annual gay pride march, isn’t necessarily going to be the same in those areas as everyone else, just as the attitude of white fundamentalist Christians isn’t going to be the same as everyone else.”

Quite why he has to have a swipe at ‘white fundamentalist Christians’ is unclear, not least because there are quite a few decidedly very black fundamentalist Christians, and Christians of either hue tend not to go around planting bombs or demanding the death of their enemies or the overthrow of the political order. But just as those who demand halal and kosher slaughter will clash with the animal rights activists, so some Christians and Muslims clash with proponents of gay rights or the serving of alcohol, and the whole licensing process will be subject to regional shari’a.

But thus is the dilemma of relativism. At its core is a pyramid of rights. Various groups with different value systems and different outlooks vie for these rights appealing for hegemony at the expense of others in a state of flux - an amoral soup - struggling for a place at the top of the pyramid.

Mr Goodman is persuaded that national government can ‘offer only limited help to deal with these issues’. And as he exhorts us to be ‘clear about what national government can and cannot do’, he alludes to the immigration chaos as he asserts that a fundamental role of government is to control borders, and to ‘ensure that people who enter have some knowledge of the country and can speak English’.

Cranmer would go further. They should not only know and speak; they should pledge allegiance and honour, respect tradition, and submit to the law of the land.


Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

Nice post.

The line about the "Foaming of the River Tiber" specifically referred to the River Tiber being poisoned with red algae, making it undrinkable and no good for farming. Powell meant the poisoning of politics. And that's exactly what happened.

1 October 2008 at 13:44  
Blogger dizzyfatplonka said...

Politics likes to hand itself the job of managing the problems it purposely creates.

It beggers belief that folk can turn up for work, make a mess and get paid for sorting it out, thats what these politicians do after all
could you imagine employing someone in a company who does that, then again I have seen many firms that look after the shurkers, fiddlers, deceivers and cheats. Thats the real reason the Country is stuffed.

1 October 2008 at 15:40  
Blogger McKenzie said...

Your Grace, like it has been said, these things seem to be inevitable. By 2027, the indigenous people will be a minority. Based on this fact, and the nature of what will be the majority, I would say we will have some very ugly battles to fight in the future: and based on this fact, it seems we are going to lose.
I will be old and decrepit, and although I have plenty of enthusiasm for a scrap or two now, I will have little resistance against my YouTube decapitation ceremony. I pray the good Lord will see it fit to strike me down with cancer or something before hand. However, there are a few decapitation ceremonies I would like to watch first if this be permitted.
I have considered a move to Austria, as they seem to have a better sense of self preservation, but in consideration, I would be an immigrant myself, so not sure how that one would work. I send my highest regards and best wishes to the Austrians anyway: may they live long and be always safe from YouTube decapitation ceremonies, which does in fact does look to be a more likely scenario than what I have for the future.
Ah well, can't dwell too much on these things, I wish all my fellow Lemmings a short and painless leap off the precipice of racial existence.

1 October 2008 at 18:00  
Blogger McKenzie said...

"This Labour Government which talks so much cant about Britishness has, in fact, hollowed it out with quite catastrophic consequences. Among the public, the rage and grief over this transformation of their country and the destruction of all they have held dear is exceeded only by their despair that no politician will have the courage to stem the tide of cultural collapse.

The Tory leadership is well aware of this mood, but is nervous. It is putting a toe in the water — hence the Grieve interview — but fine words don’t necessarily translate into brave deeds on such toxic issues as immigration, the EU, human rights and multiculturalism.

But if Conservatism is all about defending what is good and valuable against those who would destroy it, what more important treasure to be defended can there be than the integrity and historic identity of this nation?

If David Cameron seizes this opportunity, he may create the defining moment when he turns from Opposition leader into Prime Minister-in-waiting."

Melanie Phillips

Read Full Article HERE

PS I do not expect His Grace to answer me due to the nature of my rantings and ravings, His wish to disassociate is highly understandable, but my rantings and ravings are fueled by a desperate sense of desertion by one's fellow yellow bellied country folk. Too scared of their own shadow, and petrified to to step out from the herd no matter what the herd is saying or doing. Gutless bastards.

1 October 2008 at 19:09  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

Don't worry mckenzie, I'm with you. We all know what's going on.

"Among the public, the rage and grief over this transformation of their country and the destruction of all they have held dear is exceeded only by their despair that no politician will have the courage to stem the tide of cultural collapse."

I'm quivering with anger now. A minority in my own country by 2027.

We've been subjected to an evil social experiment; so beloved of the enlightenment's true believers, we've been treated liked farm animals, even now, when they recognise the existential threat of immigration and multiculturalism they talk of 'managing' the resultant civil disorder as though Britain were a chemical factory.

Multiculturalism fits the criteria for a totalitarian ideology.

See for yourself.

1 October 2008 at 20:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"and submit to the law of the land."

Until they have the weight of numbers to change it.

Simply put our government (Tory or Labour) intends remaining passive as we are colonised.

1 October 2008 at 20:08  
Blogger McKenzie said...

I half expect to be deleted from here at every post, but it seems I am thus far tolerated. I do feel the need to stress my genuine Christian belief, even though I can appreciate how twisted it will seem to many. I have family, and if I have to go to hell in order to make some contribution which will preserve this nation's Christian identity, then so be it, let it be so, bring it on.
I apologise for my language and the insulting nature of my attitude, but listen dickweeds, it's the only way for an under-achieved working class bald person to grab attention. The leaders of this country are selling you down the Swanee: in the name of God please wake up!
For some of you it will be nigh on impossible to face up to the fact that you will have to eat humble pie and admit that you have been silly stuck-up people, and that it is now time to stop playing the silly superior condescending git. Some of you may have suddenly been catapulted to a new found middle-class status, and like many others, have felt the urgent need to pull up the ladder behind you, but the shit really is about to hit the fan in this country and it really is going to get very nasty. Now is a very good time to think long and hard about what the truth really is. Disregard the vomit which is now choking the regurgitators, you need to listen to that inner voice. The Yes Car finance days are over, so the big intimidating 4x4 school run will not cut any ice with your fellow Lemmings. All them Porches and Merc's and BMW's that every Tom Dick and Harry now has on every council estate across the land will soon need a source of capitol to keep going, by hook or by crook if you see what I mean. It's the value system that people have become accustomed to, "the me people". Well, 'the me people' are going to get desperate when the computer suddenly starts to say NO! in a major way. I don't have much to lose by way of possessions, and I live on a council estate, but it has me planning ahead because I can visualise desperate times ahead. It really doesn't take long for the green eyed monster to look for other ways to balance the superficial books.
Anyways, have a look HERE to see how it all starts and ends

1 October 2008 at 21:23  
Anonymous Sir Henry Morgan said...

McKenzie, HH, Everyone else:

It wont be politicians sorting out the mess caused by these policies - it'll be me, and people like me.

It will be terrible to behold, so when the time comes, just avert your eyes. If you wont help us, then at least don't hinder us.

And it wont just be here - it'll be across all of Europe, North America and Australasia.

If any outsiders attempt to intervene, we'll just send them over a bucket of instant sunshine.

The politicians are NOT part of the solution - they are a large part of the problem.

What was it Mill said about gentle men being able to sleep peacefully at night because ...?

1 October 2008 at 22:00  
Blogger Dr.D said...

There is a solution, but it takes backbone and a clear understanding of what is yours by right. It seems that most white Anglo-Saxons, in England and elsewhere, are having difficulty with both concepts these days. Sooner or later (probably later), it will come with much blood shed, but it will come.

We have every right to exist and prosper. We have contributed inordinately to the world, and always will. We are told that we should be ashamed, but I am very proud to be a white Anglo-Saxon, the most valuable race on the face of the earth. Where would the world be without us?

1 October 2008 at 23:12  
Anonymous len said...

I don`t believe it is helpful for christians to be drawn into ethnic battles however much we feel provoked!.
We (christians ) should be praying for the Kingdom of God (The Rule and Reign of Jesus Christ) to be established on earth!.
The political,religious, civil, disorder we find ourselves in is the forerunner of the return of Christ,(as prophesied in the bible).Everything that opposes Jesus Christ is now coming to the forefront to be exposed.These are hard times, harsh times," But as the days of Noah were,so also will the coming of The Son of Man be "matthew 24:37

2 October 2008 at 07:32  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

It's worse than that your Grace, these Multiculturalists now have an abortion clinic in every town offering 'advice'
Do people realise for example that Westminster has presided over SIX MILLION ABORTIONS.
Yet we are told we need more people, even now Dawn Primorolo is actively suggesting we should sterilise British Schoolgirls.
This must be exactly what former British Communist party member Jack Straw meant when he said 'the British are not worth saving as a race'
Anybody care to guess how many Abortion have been carries out EU wide.
We are being wiped out, and by our Own Government.
It's hideous.
Tell me I'm wrong.

3 October 2008 at 12:46  
Anonymous British Patriot said...

This civil war needs to happen now while we can still win it, Enochs river should start flowing from westminster.

3 October 2008 at 12:49  
Anonymous len said...

"The earth also is defiled under its inhabitants,because they have transgressed the laws,
Changed the ordinance,
Broken the everlasting covenant,
Therefore the curse has devoured the earth,
And those who dwell in it are desolate,
Isaiah 24:5

4 October 2008 at 09:36  

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