Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Ross and Brand suspended by the BBC

Cranmer does not usually enter such banal media trivialities as this, but he is somewhat irritated to learn that Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross have been suspended by the BBC for their puerile phonecall to the actor Andrew Sachs.

Whilst His Grace has little time for Mr Ross, and no time at all for Mr Brand, it must be observed that this programme was conceived and edited by some other BBC employee(s), and the decision to broadcast (for it was not live) was taken at a much higher level.

Certainly the telephone prank was offensive and distasteful, and Cranmer in no sense seeks to excuse it, but it is crass justice indeed which seeks to condemn only those who feature in the public gaze, when the greater crime is committed by those unknown to the public and undisclosed to the media.

Cranmer is of the opinion that Mssrs Ross and Brand ought to be prosecuted for harassment and making offensive nuisance phone calls, and the editor and programme scheduler ought to be sacked.

It is a damning indictment of modern politics that both the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition should feel the need to jump on this absurd bandwagon at all. This is soap opera politics, reminiscent of the Prime Minister's apology to India for the 'Shilpa Poppadom' episode of 'Big Brother'.

It rather reminds Cranmer of his slight sadness when Margaret Thatcher bestowed honours upon Nigel Hawthorne (CBE) and Paul Eddington (CBE) in 1987 for their undoubtedly masterful performances in ‘Yes Minister’, while failing to recognise and honour the equally undoubted genius of the authors, Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn.

In a just society with a rational political discourse, credit where it is due should be mirrored by damnation where it is due.


Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

As I wrote on Dale, the thing that disgusts me is not two overpaid tossers who are not worth the shit on their shoes, but the moral crusaders whose predecessors were burning Catholics in Rouen and Witches in Salem.

The righteous may inherit the earth but the self-righteous and the self-appointed moral guardians of our nation can go and ....

29 October 2008 at 12:39  
Anonymous oiznop said...

I'm not surrised by the comments of Brown or Cameron, but I'm saddened that Your Grace has sunk to these depths. You should leave the trivia and tittle tattle to Iain Dale.

29 October 2008 at 12:50  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Weasel,

His Grace does contribute to this 'public service' through a government tax known as the licence fee, and is therefore entitled to express his opinion.

By all accounts, the phone calls caused Mr Sachs distress, and, since they were multiple, may constitute harassment. They were certainly a nuisance. This is against the law of the land, and an arrest therefore ought to be made and prosecution brought.

This is not a question of self-righteousness or a moral crusade, but one of maintaining standards and upholding the law.

Mr Oiznop,

His Grace occasionally needs a little light relief.

29 October 2008 at 13:37  
Anonymous Homophobic Horse said...

It's not trivia for obscene phone-calls to be broadcast as prime time "entertainment". Cranmer is right, this goes all the way up the BBC heirarchy. It is a damning indictment of the extreme moral degeneracy of our establishment.

They should both to prison for harrassment. Then we can can start on the pop-musicians, they can go to prison for drug offences. Zero tolerance for moral degeneracy.

29 October 2008 at 14:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the only 'light relief' Cranmer can get since he burnt his right arm.

29 October 2008 at 14:20  
Blogger Timothy Belmont said...

BBC One is now so populist that I hardly ever watch it, least of all on Saturdays.

I quite like Ross - find him amusing - but I have no time at all for an unshaven, unkempt, camp and silly character like Brand.

Sack Brand and take punitive action against Ross - like a pay cut ( in which case he may desert the beeb anyway).

Sack all pertinent BBC staff responsible for broadcasting the incident.

29 October 2008 at 14:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find the amount Mr Ross is paid by the BBC to be obscene. We the license fee payers have had no choice in the matter either, which makes my blood boil. We should rebel and start refusing to pay the license fee at all. If other TV companies can provide reasonable programmes without it, so should the BBC.

29 October 2008 at 14:48  
Blogger Timothy Belmont said...

Just one, little caveat: commercial television, like ITV, has commercial breaks every 10-15 minutes. The BBC does not and must get its revenue elsewhere.
That said, one wonders sometimes if the licence fee is worth it!

29 October 2008 at 14:58  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

Your Grace,

I agree about standards in public services, but the BBC is not one I have subscribed to for nearly a year, having cancelled my license and thrown away my TV, for the simple reason that I refuse to pay for left-wing aetheistic liberal propaganda and Jonathan Ross. I suggest that if you are so opposed to them, you do likewise.

As for upholding the law, that is an issue of due process and the rule of law by appointed judges should a complaint be made.

I have no truck with Ross and Brand. They are by all accounts not funny and offensive, but unless you are Mr Sachs or his rather dubiously occupied (Satan's Sluts?) grand daughter I fail to see how it is anyone else's business.

There are enought fake martyrs and faux moralists without adding to them over this.

By jumping on this bandwagon of rightteous indignation you are devaluing righteousness.

29 October 2008 at 15:45  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

(sorry about the spelling mistakes, my eyes were occulted by red mist.)

29 October 2008 at 15:46  
Blogger Miss Snuffleupagus said...

Your Grace
Your followers are wrong to say that this post is light relief. You touch upon some of the most damaging instinctive reactions of our modern day. If people understood the true meaning of your post, they would also understand why we teachers are constantly mocked, or why wives are ignored. And they would see why it is just as important to deal with (respect, or change) what is behind the curtains as what is in front.

Your post is deep. Just because it is about some idiots on TV does not make it less so.

29 October 2008 at 17:10  
Anonymous len said...

Its about time the Biased Broadcasting Company realised that its accountable for what it put out on the air!!
Someone in authority should have realised that these two overpaid muppets had broken the law.

29 October 2008 at 20:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when the greater crime is committed by those unknown to the public and undisclosed to the media.

Which is really the whole point.

WHO exactly are these people?

Who exactly gives the orders to the people that give the orders to the people that employ the commissioning editors?

TRUTH is, we don't know, and there is no chance of us ever been told who they are, by anyone determined to remain working in the entire MSM. For that matter, staying alive past the end of the week.

The BBC is not stupid. However it is SECRETLY run from the very top by extremely dishonest propagandists and mind control agents working for the interests of the British, Zionist and Papal establishment.

Black ops and establishment agendas is what the BBC was designed for. So the BBC is very good indeed at doing precisely what it was set up to do. Which is to essentially bugger up as well as possible normal functioning society and replace it with establishment dictate, rules and regulations, and the consequent inevitable slave like long term tax implications.

Fiction is propaganda and propaganda is fiction. MSM news services are utter fiction, when not keeping in the dark almost infinitely more then they illuminate.

Thus the establishment stay up where they are and we stay in our alloted place.

Please remember this.

The BBC is the best there is in the business. The BBC does not make mistakes. The BBC is a tool of the establishment, however clever it has long since had to become at hiding the fact from the ordinary British people.

29 October 2008 at 21:22  
Blogger Angelo said...

Those who broadcast it should surely also be accountable, but regarding the now departed Russell, as you your Most Reverend and Right Honourable self once almost said, “this was the Brand that wrote it, therefore he shall suffer first punishment.”

29 October 2008 at 21:24  
Blogger Ben said...

This episode will prove to be, not another nail in the coffin of the licence fee, but something akin to the fashioning of the lid.

29 October 2008 at 23:00  
Blogger Jeremy Jacobs said...

"but I have no time at all for an unshaven, unkempt, camp and silly character like Brand".

You should have his brilliant humour....

29 October 2008 at 23:31  
Anonymous nonny nonny said...

Anonymous @ 21:22 -
You mean you believe the British Establishment still exists?

I thought it just did what marxist euros tell it: which is why the beeb isn't British any more.

29 October 2008 at 23:56  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

"29 October 2008 21:22"

Hello "Atlas Shrugged".

30 October 2008 at 00:14  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

"All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up"

This issue is about the creation of a social construct, aided and abetted by mass media; that is, the star system or celebritydom. In this construct, we agree to elevate and worship ordinary people who are not only blessed with a talent, but who are extraordinarily lucky. In return they play out a fantasy by proxy about the recognition, talent and wealth that we crave. Everyone around these people acts and behaves as if the stars are in some way superior, without qualifiers and being human, they play up to it.

Frequently, these celebrities fall prey to the inevitable and believe the hype. As ordinary people they are unable to cope with the internal contradictions they are exposed to and become hebephrenic or drown their sorrows in drink and drugs. In such an unnatural context their basic human values, values that keep them on the straight and narrow become distorted. And it is us, the general public who make this possible. In fact it is the general public who drive them into little coteries of fellow "stars" because it helps them to feel normal.

I have had the opportunity to meet many of these people. I have met them when they were "nobody" and when they were "stars" and when they were nobody again after being stars. It is difficult to imagine how easy it is to take on the lifestyle and how difficult it is to readjust to civilian life. It seems to infect them like malaria; once you have it, it never really goes away. If you don't know what I am on about watch the movies "Spinal Tap" or "Sunset Boulevard".

The oxygen that provides this bubble of madness is the public's lust for detail and it's desire for more - more laughs, more entertainment, more outrage.

So, having created a race of egomaniacs who satisfy your fantasies by proxy, you are hurt and shocked when the Frankenstein's monster goes on the rampage - the monster you created by your buying into the myth.

That is why I detect a degree of arrogance and hypocracy lurking in this present collective display of outrage.

30 October 2008 at 01:55  
Anonymous some english bloke said...

Your Grace is correct to insist upon management sackings though I did read that the most senior were on holiday that week.
The 10,000, 20,000 protests ( or is it 30,000 by now ? ) cannot be about the broadcast itself since only two complained at the time.
Rather they are from people who see an opportunity to join in a general attack on the BBC for the way it has degraded itself in recent years.

Anyone who deplores what the BBC has become would do well to add to the complaints as their very number has become the story.

I was not offended by the broadcast since I abandoned my telly some years ago and thus no longer pay the telly tax.

30 October 2008 at 04:45  
Blogger dmk said...

This is Ross and Brand's personal credit crunch. With Ross's pay and broadcasting style, there are plenty of people who have been wanting him to take a tumble.

I agree with some english bloke: the 27,000 complaints to the BBC are not about this one incident, this is years of discomfort with a cruder broadcasting style which has lowered standards on the BBC for language, sexual content and good taste in general. For Jonathan Ross, read most post-watershed comedy (Little Britain, Armstrong and Miller, Enfield & Whitehouse etc.)

30 October 2008 at 08:49  
Blogger King Athelstan said...

SAdly, for those of us who enjoy something a little less banal, I fear this is just the beginning. Today Ross and Brand, tomorrow who? Wogan? Lamarr? Radcliffe and Maconie? Sarah Kennedy? I'm not condoning what happened, I heard it and I was offended, but this kind of blood-letting only plays into the hands of those who would reduce the BBC to only what they want to watch or listen to. The BBC is a long way from perfect, a lot needs to be done, but I've seen the alternative.

30 October 2008 at 11:53  
Blogger Unsworth said...

Your Grace

Interesting contrast between the two. Brand resigns and an apology (of sorts) is broadcast. Ross issues an apology through his solicitors, but does not resign.

What does this say of these two 'entertainers'? And is this just possibly something to do with (our) money?

It's certainly nothing to do with integrity.

Meanwhile BBC 'newsreaders' proclaim in reverential tones that Thompson has 'interrupted his holiday' to deal with the matter.

We are not worthy.

30 October 2008 at 12:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Couldn't we sue the BBC for inappropriate use of our license fee money? I mean 6 many starving people in Dafur would that feed?

The word verification today is 'foofork.' Does this mean something?

30 October 2008 at 18:24  
Blogger The Lakelander said...

Your Grace:

I don't know too many jokes that involve God, but here's an old one:

"Cocaine - God's way of telling you you've got too much money."

Funny, isn't it?

30 October 2008 at 20:53  

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