Friday, November 14, 2008

Baby P, Haringey, and the hypocrisy at the heart of Government

When two over-paid ‘comedians’ at the BBC phoned an elderly man and pestered him with expletives and abuse, the Prime Minister demanded that the BBC take action.

And so the Director General Mark Thompson did take action. There were suspensions, public reprimands, and the high-profile resignations of senior staff. Cranmer noted how Parliament might learn from the BBC.

And Gordon Brown was content that justice had been done, and public confidence at least partially restored.

Then a woman and her partner murder their 17-month old baby after an appallingly brutal series of attacks upon the infant, which included a broken back, fractured ribs and extensive bruising.

No-one at Haringey Council has been suspended, and no-one has resigned, for it is asserted that ‘proper procedures’ were followed.

But now it transpires that Government ministers were warned of the failings in child protection procedures in Haringey as long ago as February 2007. And they did nothing but pass the buck.

Come on, Prime Minister.

Let us hear of suspensions and sackings, reprimands and resignations.

How else will public confidence be restored in the Government’s ability to protect the nation’s children?

Or is the Ross/Brand affair somehow more morally repugnant and politically unpalatable than the murder of Baby P?

37 Comments:

Anonymous len said...

The life and death of one defenceless infant, brutally battered to death should rightfully take precedent over the ross /brand fiasco.
If action had been taken on behalf of this child this death could have been avoided.

14 November 2008 at 12:05  
Blogger McKenzie said...

How and why do people sink to such levels of depravity? Who do we really blame, their parents, the government?

It can't be down to a simple case of bad policies, or a naff upbringing. I am by no means an expert, nor do I have access to statistics, of the Gordon variety or even real ones, but I would bet my life on it that this is only the tip of a very cold, dark and murky ice berg.

Cranmer, I know that you can do better than play the party politics game. It's our whole system which is wrong and I know that you know it.

14 November 2008 at 12:36  
Anonymous oiznop said...

The Council said 'sorry'. Isn't that enough?

Would it have been enough if the controller of Radio 2 had just said sorry?

Isn't 'sorry' a bit lame when a kid died?

14 November 2008 at 15:03  
Anonymous melangell said...

Nothing the government could say would be fitting or adequate. It has fostered a culture of moral relativism which leaves those on the margins of society free to inflict terror, pain and misery on anyone who has the misfortune to fall into their hands; bad enough for vulnerable adults, hell on earth for helpless children. The whole concept of classifying children as "at risk" and yet leaving them in the power of those who pose that risk is insane.

Social work is a parasite profession with no justification for its own existence save for the problems it helps to perpetuate. The funding wasted on it should be spent instead on training teachers and medical staff to recognise signs of physical and mental cruelty, on enabling the police to require the removal of a child in danger, and on increasing the number of fosterers and adopters.

But until alcoholics, drug addicts and sociopaths are debarred from having care of any child all these measures will be useless. Baby P - why can't we know at least his first name? - could have been, should have been, would have been saved by anyone who had had the courage to tell the truth: that some people are not fit to be parents. If I were a Catholic I would pray that he were now in the loving arms of the Mother of Mercies; even as a Protestant I wish I might be allowed to hope so.

14 November 2008 at 15:27  
Blogger dizzyfatplonka said...

Powerful post your Grace.

Very true, Very true!

Heads should roll, only trouble is the buck never stops at the top.

Our system is only good at finger pointing, scapegoating but never changing. Problems do not go away with the scapegoat, ask Judas!

14 November 2008 at 15:55  
Anonymous Lorenzo said...

If the country were a brand new car and Gordon Brown were its owner, then within a month the police would be taking it to the crusher for every construction and use offence possible as it would be a total wreck and a danger to every other road user, he would also be appearing before the magistrates forthwith probably to be banned from ever driving again and most likely on a charge of death by dangerous driving about to be sentenced to a suitably long stretch.

14 November 2008 at 15:55  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

INCLINE Thine ear, O Lord, unto our prayers, wherein we humbly pray Thee to show Thy mercy upon the soul of Thy servant N., whom Thou hast commanded to pass out of this world, that Thou wouldst place him in the region of peace and light, and bid him be a partaker with Thy Saints. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

WE pour forth before Thee, O Lord, our most humble supplications for the souls of Thy servants and of Thine handmaidens beseeching Thee, in Thy clemency, to wash away every taint of sin with which, by their life among men, they may have been sullied, and to give them place among those whose joy it is for evermore to have been redeemed by Thee. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, Who with Thee liveth and reigneth in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end.

O God, whose property is ever to have mercy and to spare, we humbly entreat Thee on behalf of the soul of Thy servant (or handmaid) N., whom Thou hast bidden this day to pass out of this world: that Thou wouldst not deliver him (or her) into the hands of the enemy nor forget him (or her) for ever, but command him (or her) to be taken up by the holy Angels, and to be borne to our home in paradise, that as he (or she) had put his (or her) faith and hope in Thee he (or she) may not undergo the pains of hell but may possess everlasting joys. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, who liveth and reigneth with Thee, in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end.

O Lord Jesus Christ, King of glory, deliver the souls of all the faithful departed from the pains of hell and from the bottomless pit: deliver them from the lion's mouth, that hell swallow them not up, that they fall not into darkness, but let the standard-bearer, holy Michael, lead them into that holy light; which Thou didst promise of old to Abraham and to his seed. V.: We offer to Thee, O Lord, sacrifices and prayers: do Thou receive them in behalf of those souls of whom we make memorial this day. Grant them, O Lord, to pass from death to that life which Thou didst promise of old to Abraham and to his seed.

INCLINA, Domine, aurem tuam ad preces nostras, quibus misericordiam tuam supplices deprecamur, ut animam famuli tui N., quam de hoc saeculo migrare iussisti, in pacis ac lucis regione constituas et Sanctorum tuorum iubeas esse consortem. Per Christum Dominum nostrum. Amen.

SUPPLICES, Domine, pro animabus famulorum famularumque ruarum preces effundimus obsecrantes: ut quidquid conversatione contraxerunt humana, et clementer indulgeas et in tourum sede laetantium constituas redemptorum. Per Dominum nostrum, Iesum Christum, Filium tuum, qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitate Spiritus Sancti, Deus, per omnia saecula saeculorum.

Deus, qui proprium est misereri semper et parcere, te supplices exoramus pro anima famuli tui N., (famulae tuae N.) quam hodie de hoc saeculo migrare iussisti: ut non tradas eam in manus inimici, neque obliviscaris in finem, sed iubeas eam a sanctis Angelis suscipi, et ad patriam paradisi derduci; ut, quia in te speravit et credidit, non poenas inferni sustineat, sed gaudia aeterna possideat. Per Dominum nostrum, Iesum Christum, Filium tuum, qui tecum vivit et regnat in unitate Spiritus Sancti, Deus, per omnia saecula saeculorum.

Domine Iesu Christe, Rex gloriae, libera animas omnium fidelium defunctorum de poenis inferni et de profundi lacu: libera eas de ore leonis, ne absorbeat eas tartarus, ne cadant in obscurum: sed signifer sanctus Michael repraesentet eas in lucem sanctam: * Quam olim Abrahae promisisti, et semini ejus. V.: Hostias et preces tibi, Domine, laudis offerimus: tu suscipe pro animabus illis, quarum hodie memoriam facimus: fac eas, Domine, de morte transire ad vitam. * Quam olim Abrahae promisisti et semini ejus.

14 November 2008 at 17:14  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Out of the depths have I cried unto Thee, O Lord: Lord, hear my voice.
Let Thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplication.
If Thou, Lord, shoulst mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
But there is forgiveness with Thee: because of Thy law I wait for Thee, O Lord.
My soul waiteth on His word: my soul hopeth in the Lord.
From the morning watch even until night let Israel hope in the Lord:
For with the Lord is mercy, and with Him is plentiful redemption.
And He shall redeem Israel, from all his iniquities.
V.: Eternal rest give to them, O Lord.
R.: And let perpetual light shine upon them.
Ant. If Thou, O Lord, wilt mark iniquities, Lord, who shall stand it?

De profundis clamavi ad te, Domine: Domine, exaudi vocem meam.
Fiant aures tuae intendentes: in covem deprecationis meae.
Si iniquitates observaveris, Domine: Domine, quis sustinebit.
Quia apud te propitiatio est: et propter legem tuam sustinui te, Domine.
Sustinuit anima mea in verbo ejus: speravit anima mea in Domino.
A custodia matutina usque ad noctem: speret Israel in Domino.
Quia apud Dominum misericordia: et copiosa apud eum redemptio.
Et ipse redimet Israel, ex omnibus iniquitatibus ejus.
V.: Requiem aeternam doma eis, Domine.
R.: Et lux perpetua luceat eis.
Antiphona. Si iniquitates * observaveris, Domine: Domine, quis sustinebit?

14 November 2008 at 17:16  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

Day of wrath! O day of mourning!
See fulfilled the prophets' warning,
Heaven and earth in ashes burning!

Oh what fear man's bosom rendeth,
when from heaven the Judge descendeth,
on whose sentence all dependeth.

Wondrous sound the trumpet flingeth;
through earth's sepulchers it ringeth;
all before the throne it bringeth.

Death is struck, and nature quaking,
all creation is awaking,
to its Judge an answer making.

Lo! the book, exactly worded,
wherein all hath been recorded:
thence shall judgment be awarded.

When the Judge his seat attaineth,
and each hidden deed arraigneth,
nothing unavenged remaineth.

What shall I, frail man, be pleading?
Who for me be interceding,
when the just are mercy needing?

King of Majesty tremendous,
who dost free salvation send us,
Fount of pity, then befriend us!

Think, good Jesus, my salvation
cost thy wondrous Incarnation;
leave me not to reprobation!

Faint and weary, thou hast sought me,
on the cross of suffering bought me.
shall such grace be vainly brought me?

Righteous Judge! for sin's pollution
grant thy gift of absolution,
ere the day of retribution.

Guilty, now I pour my moaning,
all my shame with anguish owning;
spare, O God, thy suppliant groaning!

Thou the sinful woman savedst;
thou the dying thief forgavest;
and to me a hope vouchsafest.

Worthless are my prayers and sighing,
yet, good Lord, in grace complying,
rescue me from fires undying!

With thy favored sheep O place me;
nor among the goats abase me;
but to thy right hand upraise me.

While the wicked are confounded,
doomed to flames of woe unbounded
call me with thy saints surrounded.

Low I kneel, with heart submission,
see, like ashes, my contrition;
help me in my last condition.

Ah! that day of tears and mourning!
From the dust of earth returning
man for judgment must prepare him;
Spare, O God, in mercy spare him!

Lord, all pitying, Jesus blest,
grant them thine eternal rest. Amen.

Dies irae, dies illa
solvet saeclum in favilla,
teste David cum Sybilla.

Quantus tremor est futurus,
quando judex est venturus,
cuncta stricte discussurus.

Tuba mirum spargens sonum
per sepulchra regionum,
coget omnes ante thronum.

Mors stupebit et natura,
cum resurget creatura,
judicanti responsura.

Liber scriptus proferetur,
in quo totum continetur,
unde mundus judicetur.

Judex ergo cum sedebit,
quidquid latet apparebit,
nil inultum remanebit.

Quid sum miser tunc dicturus?
Quem patronum rogaturus,
cum vix justus sit securus?

Rex tremendae majestatis,
qui salvandos salvas gratis,
salva me, fons pietatis.

Recordare Jesu pie,
quod sum causa tuae viae,
ne me perdas illa die.

Quaerens me sedisti lassus,
redemisti crucem passus,
tantus labor non sit cassus.

Juste judex ultionis,
donum fac remissionis
ante diem rationis.

Ingemisco tanquam reus,
culpa rubet vultus meus,
supplicanti parce, Deus.

Qui Mariam absolvisti,
et latronem exaudisti,
mihi quoque spem dedisti.

Preces meae non sunt dignae,
sed tu, bonus, fac benigne,
ne perenni cremer igne.

Inter oves locum praesta,
et ab hoedis me sequestra,
statuens in parte dextra.

Confutatis maledictis,
flammis acribus addictis,
voca me cum benedictis.

Oro supplex et acclinis,
cor contritum quasi cinis,
gere curam mei finis.

Lacrimosa dies illa,
qua resurget ex favilla

judicandus homo reus -
Huic ergo parce, Deus.

Pie Jesu Domine,
dona eis requiem.

Amen.

14 November 2008 at 17:19  
Anonymous Bugs Bunny said...

We pray, Thee O Almighty and Eternal God! Who through Jesus Christ hast revealed Thy glory to all nations, to preserve the works of Thy mercy, that Thy Church, being spread through the whole world, may continue with unchanging faith in the confession of Thy Name.

We pray Thee, who alone art good and holy, to endow with heavenly knowledge, sincere zeal, and sanctity of life, our chief bishop, Pope N., the Vicar of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the government of his Church; our own bishop, N., all other bishops, prelates, and pastors of the Church; and especially those who are appointed to exercise amongst us the functions of the holy ministry, and conduct Thy people into the ways of salvation.

We pray Thee O God of might, wisdom, and justice! Through whom authority is rightly administered, laws are enacted, and judgment decreed, assist with Thy Holy Spirit of counsel and fortitude the Sovereign of this United Kingdom, that her administration may be conducted in righteousness, and be eminently useful to Thy people over whom she presides; by encouraging due respect for virtue and religion; by a faithful execution of the laws in justice and mercy; and by restraining vice and immorality. Let the light of Thy divine wisdom direct the deliberations of Parliament, and shine forth in all the proceedings and laws framed for our rule and government, so that they may tend to the preservation of peace, the promotion of national happiness, the increase of industry, sobriety, and useful knowledge; and may perpetuate to us the blessing of equal liberty.

We pray for Her Majesty the Queen, for the members of Parliament, for all judges, magistrates, and other officers who are appointed to guard our political welfare, that they may be enabled, by Thy powerful protection, to discharge the duties of their respective stations with honesty and ability.

We recommend likewise, to Thy unbounded mercy, all our brethren and fellow citizens throughout the United Kingdom, that they may be blessed in the knowledge and sanctified in the observance of Thy most holy law; that they may be preserved in union, and in that peace which the world cannot give; and after enjoying the blessings of this life, be admitted to those which are eternal.

Finally, we pray to Thee, O Lord of mercy, to remember the souls of Thy servants departed who are gone before us with the sign of faith and repose in the sleep of peace; the souls of our parents, relatives, and friends; of those who, when living, were members of this congregation, and particularly of such as are lately deceased; of all benefactors who, by their donations or legacies to this Church, witnessed their zeal for the decency of divine worship and proved their claim to our grateful and charitable remembrance. To these, O Lord, and to all that rest in Christ, grant, we beseech Thee, a place of refreshment, light, and everlasting peace, through the same Jesus Christ, Our Lord and Savior. Amen.

14 November 2008 at 17:23  
Blogger Miss Snuffleupagus said...

Heads never roll in our professions. I get into trouble at school just for using the phrase...

14 November 2008 at 18:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if haringey get 50,000 complaints does she go?

14 November 2008 at 19:51  
Anonymous miserable sinner said...

In a similar case in New Jersey a few years ago, one of the social workers told a newspaper reporter that she never actually visits the housing estates -- she just falsifies the records to indicate that she has visited. She justified this practice by saying that "her own kids came first." In other words, the housing projects are so dangerous that she would not risk her life to visit children living there.

I am not too familiar with the various neighborhoods of England, but if this child lived in a severely dysfunctional area where a social worker's car would be vandalized, or where the social worker herself would be at risk of physical harm if she visited, then I would say that there is a real chance that the numerous visits that supposedly took place did NOT actually occur.

White social workers are often VERY afraid to mess with black families living in all-black neighborhoods.

I don't know what the solution is, but it would probably be for the best if the POLICE investigated child abuse (which is, after all, a crime.) If a judge hearing the case thinks that social workers can be of use, then let the judge send in the social workers.

14 November 2008 at 20:44  
Blogger The Bench said...

An excellent post, an excellent blog. I am in Chicago and have just discovered you, Cranmer, and am instantly a fan. Keep up the good work. The West needs more voices such as yours. Kind regards and carry on!

14 November 2008 at 21:51  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Mr Bench,

You are most welcome to His Grace's august blog of intelligent and erudite comment upon matters religio-political.

Bless you.

14 November 2008 at 22:57  
Anonymous Frankfurt Subversion said...

Research indicates that children are statistically less likely to be abused by biological parents than others.
SO who is it that has undermined the family, undermined the Christian basis of our society, prohibited parents and teachers from disciplining children, promoted 24 hr drinking, relaxed the drug laws.

Westminster.

14 November 2008 at 23:50  
Blogger McKenzie said...

The reason why God wants us to 'fear' Him is because he knows that when left to our own devises we will gorge ourselves on every thing unhealthy, like a child with a tub of quality street.

Every time the Chosen ones fell away from God they suffered, not through punishment though. There are two basic ways of looking at their situation. Even if God does not exist and the Law was just an invention, without it they turned back to filth and gorged themselves on debasement.

This is where we are at now. When God was declared dead some Time ago, there was an element of truth in this. It is the 'fear' of God which has died, and now we are wallowing in overindulgent sickness. People are asking what is wrong with our society. To us, God is dead, and we are without the means to help ourselves.

Pointing fingers at each other is like using sticking plasters for severed arteries. More police, more cameras, more rules, more prisons, more social workers. Are police and social workers recruited from another planet? Or is there a country somewhere that has been kept a secret?

Our kids are educated by TV screens, and we have an impotent church and a utterly incompetent education system. We are limping along in sickness while the Vultures hover above in ever decreasing circles.

We judge each other by our material possessions. Those who have nothing are worthless, undeserving, or at least they soon feel this way. What else is there to feel? Money is everything! But if you don't make it to the 'dream', then where are you? In our self centered world we even judge ourselves by what we own, by our material success.

Our politicians will look you in the eye and say things, meaningless things, things which are so obviously lies, but they look you in the eyes: then they point their cameras at you!

Who can say there is NO correlation? I don't mean who can look you in the eye and say all is well, all is well: I know who can say this. But who can not see the correlation and look them self in the eye? We are only human, and this is the heart of the matter.

In Darwin's law of the jungle, it is dog eat dog; survival of the fittest. Humanism will serve you up on a plate, because human nature is exactly this, human nature. See you all in Hell!

15 November 2008 at 00:03  
Blogger McKenzie said...

If we have the knowledge and skills to correct those who have "gone bad" through
psychology, therapy or reprogramming, we have the knowledge and skills (the same
ones) that should be taught to every young adult before they have children.

Punishing is so much easier and faster (if vastly less efficient in the long run)
than tending to needs that should never have been ignored in the first place.
Instead we let the fresh milk go sour, then blame the milk for being at fault.
Do people actually think of punishing a perpetrator as a form of victory?
Absolutely, yes! Even a school principal who punishes a child for misdemeanors
believes that he has done the right thing in defending his community against the
ravages of evildoers (or those who will eventually become evildoers unless they
are stopped young).

The Media is an abstraction (because a newspaper is not concrete and only in an abstract sense can be considered an individual), which in association with the passionless reflection of the times creates that abstract phantom, the public, which is the actual leveler. . . . More and more individuals will, because of their indolent bloodlessness, aspire to become nothing, in order to become the public, this abstract whole, which forms in this ridiculous manner: the public comes into existence because all its participants become third parties. This lazy mass, which understands nothing and does nothing, this public gallery seeks some distraction, and soon gives itself over to the idea that everything which someone does, or achieves, has been done to provide the public something to gossip about. . . . The public has a dog for its amusement. That dog is the Media. If there is someone better than the public, someone who distinguishes himself, the public sets the dog on him and all the amusement begins. This biting dog tears up his coat-tails, and takes all sort of vulgar liberties with his leg--until the public bores of it all and calls the dog off. That is how the public levels.

-Søren Kierkegaard, The Present Age, 1846

It is a wonderful thing to see a first-rate philosopher at prayer. Tough-minded thinking and tenderhearted reverence are friends, not enemies. We have for too long separated the head from the heart, and we are the lesser for it. We love God with the mind and we love God with the heart. In reality, we are descending with the mind into the heart and there standing before God in ceaseless wonder and endless praise. As the mind and the heart work in concert, a kind of "loving rationality" pervades all we say and do. This brings unity to us and glory to God.

-Søren Kierkegaard, The Prayers of Soren Kierkegaard, “Reflections”

15 November 2008 at 01:17  
Anonymous len said...

The problem with man is a spiritual one!.
man was created to be filled with the spirit of God (Yahweh God).Man was created to be a choosing creature , he could reject God if he so wished.
This is exactly what adam did, he rejected God.
But as man was created to be infilled with a spirit and had rejected God he got filled with another spirit, the spirit of this world, the spirit of rebellion, try following Gods laws you will find you cannot!.Jesus paved the way for man to be redeemed to be re- connected with Gods spirit, by being born again , (redeemed).
Yahweh God offers salvation to whoever will accept Jesus Christ as his redeemer,Man without Yahweh God is a pitiful creature, a slave of satan,blind to his own condition, he thinks he is free but he is in chains!.

15 November 2008 at 16:03  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

I hope this poor soul is in Heaven right now, being born up by angels and made to giggle with glee by the Almighty Himself.

15 November 2008 at 16:39  
Blogger JPT said...

Anyone care to guess what the killers will recieve in way of sentence?

15 November 2008 at 21:23  
Blogger transfattyacid said...

The real reason Gordon Brown wished to join the whitewashing of the death of Baby Peter is because the reason he died goes to the heart of Gordon's brand of government.

Haringey Social Services and the Police are engaged in an operation of statistical management, the aim of which is demonstrate that service levels are improving.

Because the mother was cooperating with social services in the plan to get the child removed from the at risk register, which would count towards the performance assessment, they were perfectly happy to ignore the catalogue of injuries and weight loss, as none of this mattered in the performance assessment.

Why else who Sharon Shoesmith choose statistics on improvement at a press conference held to discuss the death of a child - that had been successfully covered up for 15 months?

I mention the police being as culperable as social services because of such things Det Con Slade, who 'investigated' the first inquiry into the abuse, did not make any notes of interviews - or maybe the turth is these notes no longer exist. And was practically called a liar at the trial over the evidence she gave.

16 November 2008 at 00:15  
Anonymous The BBC Reported said...

A pregnant mother has pleaded not guilty to her 17-month-old son's murder, the Old Bailey has heard.

Tracey Connelly, 25, of Penshurst Road, Tottenham, north London, also denies allowing or failing to prevent Peter Connelly's death.

Her partner Steven Barker, 31, denies the same charges. Mr Barker's brother Jason, 35, denies allowing or causing the death of a child under 16.

Peter was declared dead at North Middlesex Hospital on 3 August.

A post-mortem examination carried out at Great Ormond Street Hospital proved inconclusive and further tests were due to be carried out.

Detectives were called to the hospital after concerns were raised by staff, a Metropolitan Police spokesman said.

Ms Connelly, who is due to give birth to another child in March, and Mr Barker appeared in court via video link.

The pair have been remanded in custody until their trial begins on 9 June.

Mr Jason Barker, of Wittersham Road, Bromley, Kent, was granted conditional bail.

16 November 2008 at 05:37  
Blogger McKenzie said...

We should have better policies to stop people from being cruel like this. Its all the Labour Party's fault, and social services. That's right isn't it? You lot talk bollocks sometimes.

16 November 2008 at 14:34  
Anonymous miserable sinner said...

Here in the USA, social workers are notorious for removing paperwork from the file that might embarrass them. For instance, they remove a child from his parents based on Theory A. Later, it becomes obvious that Theory A is impossible in this case. They will go through the file and remove or alter any paperwork that says anything about anyone at the agency believing in Theory A. Instead of returning the child to his parents, based on proof that Theory A is wrong, the social workers will claim that the child was originally removed from his home based on Theory B. This process can be repeated as often as necessary. If the parents complain about the unfairness of not getting their child back when they disprove the original allegations against them, they will be accused of being focused more on their own "rights" than on the well-being of the child. Or, they will flat out be accused of being mentally ill.

I guarantee you that while this little boy was being beaten senseless, the social workers who should have working on this case were harassing some family for speaking too sharply to their child in a parking lot, or some similar file folder full of nonsense. They always howl that if they had more "resources" they could do a better job, but their avoidance of dysfunctional neighborhoods makes them miss a big percentage of the serious abuse cases. Classic signs: child under three; young mother; live-in boyfriend who is unemployed and who is NOT the father of the child.

16 November 2008 at 15:42  
Blogger 2345 said...

Who is the mysterious 'baby P' ?
He has the right to have his name broadcast to the nation as child victims ALWAYS are, i.e. Victoria Climbie, Jamie Bulger.

There's no legal or rational reason for withholding an alleged child victim's name. The victim's name is the first to be broadcast in genuine cases of homicide.

17 November 2008 at 10:46  
Blogger 2345 said...

miserable sinner,

A 17 month year old baby's anatomy could not withstand the injuries alleged inflicted over a period of time. Internal damage from one severe 'adult' blow could be life threatening ...

It's unheard of in a democracy for an injunction to reportedly be served on the social worker made accountable; 'gagging' her right to free speech and defence is bullying, ill treatment over and above standard procedures.

17 November 2008 at 11:12  
Blogger karzop said...

His name is Peter - Peter Connelly

17 November 2008 at 11:44  
Blogger 2345 said...

karzop -

If true, media would have broadcast it loud and clear at the outset. Media didn't operate as a manipulative political tool in Victoria's & Jamie's cases, did it ?

17 November 2008 at 12:42  
Blogger Harlequin said...

IF you're interested, the reason that his name was kept secret even in death was that there were siblings to protect. In the cases you cite, there were no other children.

17 November 2008 at 19:50  
Blogger Harlequin said...

And yes, by all the sources I can find (based on reports of the death back in 07) the child's name is as reported above.

17 November 2008 at 19:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

baby p,s name is PETER CONNELLY.
that witch who calls herself a mother is called TRACY CONNELLY.
and that sick ******* who called himself a stepfather is called STEVEN BARKER. R.I.P BABY PETER YOUR SAFE NOW LITTLE FELLA,if anyone reads this and believes in justice then they should pass this on 2 anyone they know!!!

17 November 2008 at 22:34  
Blogger Harlequin said...

Well, it's good to see that Anonymous can use Google, but assumes no one else can.

So much for protecting the identities of the kids...

17 November 2008 at 22:37  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harlequin "So much for protecting the identities of the kids..."

Protecting the kids from whom ? Other social workers ?

18 November 2008 at 00:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is now excuse as to what happened to this child, people cant say blame the parents because i was battered as a child but i dont go around battering my own children if i found anyone had harm my children in anyway i would **** them, the officals had the power and the reason to save that little boy and his own father tried to do just that by kidnapping him but again police made him give the child back. so in short its the officals fault that this child is dead and his mothers but no-one can place the blame on peters grandparents

18 November 2008 at 18:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to UK law it is not an offense to kill babies. They just have to be wrapped up nicely in a womb thing so no one can see that its actually a baby in there. Then you can poison them dismember them or whatever you like as long as you quickly get rid of the evidence.

When a nation decides that killing babies in the womb is not killing, then it is hardly surprising that the spirit of murder is also let loose on those that have survived the first 9 months of the journey.

Baby P's killing is horrific because we have witnessed it. Start thinking about all the other killings we hide our faces from.

Abortion pollutes the spirit of a nation!

19 November 2008 at 14:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tracey Connelly, 25, of Penshurst Road, Tottenham, north London, also denies allowing or failing to prevent Peter Connelly's death.

Her partner Steven Barker, 31, denies the same charges. Mr Barker's brother Jason, 35, denies allowing or causing the death of a child under 16.

22 November 2008 at 21:14  

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