Saturday, January 10, 2009

The pro-Hamas UN Resolution

Cranmer has been contacted by UN Watch, and asked to make you aware of a new resolution. It appears that the UN is once again determined to demonise Israel.

“As Israel struggles to defend its civilians from Hamas rocket attacks—10,000 since 2001, and more than 500 in the past few days alone—Arab and Islamic states have called an emergency ‘Special Session’ of the UN Human Rights Council for Friday (yesterday). Their proposed resolution condemns Israel alone, while covering up for Hamas's double war crime: its deliberate targeting of Israeli civilians, and its use of Palestinian civilians as human shields.”

They urge EU leaders to vote to support democracies and oppose terrorism, expressing deep concern with ‘the grossly one-sided and counter-productive resolution tabled by Arab states’ in yesterday’s emergency session of the UN Human Rights Council.

The meeting was initiated by Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Russia, and other countries ‘not exactly known for their stellar human rights records’. The focus is ‘the grave violations of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory including the recent aggression of the occupied Gaza Strip’.

The draft text ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s actions — yet says not a word about Hamas, a terrorist organization that has fired thousands of rockets and missiles against civilians in the cities and towns of Ashkelon, Beersheba, and Sderot.

By seeking to criminalise Israeli self-defence, and implicitly to legitimise Hamas terrorism, the text itself is a violation of human rights.

UN Watch is aware that UN resolutions matter: ‘they are translated into every language, govern the discourse of international relations and human rights, and influence masses around the globe’.

They say: ‘Make no mistake: Iran, Syria, and Hamas will take note of this resolution, and especially of how Europe will vote. As documented by UN Watch in a November 2007 report, anti-Israel UN resolutions are routinely cited by Middle East extremists to convince their audiences that the world is with them.’


Anonymous SuperBlue said...

Your grace, this is very worrying. I have heard that "Hamas" translates as "violence".

10 January 2009 at 11:41  
Blogger Unsworth said...

Your Grace

I'm sorry but it is complete nonsense to say "It appears that the UN is once again determined to demonise Israel." What is true is that some members of the UN have drafted a proposed motion which may or may not be put forward and subsequently passed in Council.

However one might also question the impartiality of UN Watch itself. It is, after all, affiliated with the American Jewish Committee (the Chair is a former American ambassador and the Co-Chair is the AJC Executive Director). As such its pronouncements over this matter should be viewed with caution.

10 January 2009 at 11:52  
Blogger Christian-Jedi-Alliance said...

The Jedi are tuned into the Force and we sense that something is out of place here. There is an undercurrent of dealings with the Dark Side which is fluctuating across the threshold of what ordinary people can sense.

There is coming a time when we will all be forced to choose.


May The Force Be With You

10 January 2009 at 12:13  
Blogger McKenzie said...

4,000 people are marching through Edinburgh towards the US embassy????

Am I dreaming this?

10 January 2009 at 14:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace, I was struck by the large number of rocket attacks you report above. Do you also have statistics on how many casualties they caused? President Elect Obama correctly suggested that if somebody attacks your home with rockets you certainly have a right to remove that threat. However, the destruction and mayhem inflicted by the current Israeli response seems out of proportion to the physical damage suffered from those thousands of rockets.

10 January 2009 at 14:31  
Anonymous shaven-headed tattooed knuckledragger said...

There can never be any peace between Muslim and Jew in the same way that there can never be any peace between Muslim and Christian, Muslim and Buddhist, Muslim and Sikh, Muslim and Hindu, Muslim and secularist, Muslim and ...

To the Muslims, the world is divided on tribal lines between Dar al-Harb and Dar al-Islam, Umma and Kuffar.

Islam defines its very identity in terms of hatred of other tribes (sons of pigs and monkeys, uncovered meat, najis kafirs, and so on).

Islam has bloody borders, always has had, always will have. To anyone who wishes to bury their heads in the sand rather than face this stark truth, I would simply say 'Which part of KILL THE UNBELIEVERS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM do you not understand?'

10 January 2009 at 14:33  
Blogger len.allan said...

No civilised country would put up with a constant stream of missiles being fired into its civilian population!
This would be taken as an act of war.
Hamas has kept up this constant attack on israel as a provocation knowing that Israel would have to respond to defend its civilians.
If Hamas cared anything for the palestinians they would stop firing rockets into Israel.
Hamas is manipulating opinion against Israel and the west is too dumb to see it.Anti-semitism is alive and well!.

10 January 2009 at 14:40  
Blogger Unsworth said...

So anti-Israeli = anti-Semitic?

10 January 2009 at 14:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The idea of Hamas manipulating opinion is laughable. Name one Hamas controlled media outlet in the UK.

This morning, the front page of my Murdoch Times had an article about a new genetic treatment for cancer. A type of cancer that particularly affects Ashkenazi Jews. It was only after several pages that one could read the news from Gaza (admittedly there was an editorial on page 2). If that is not news management, I'll eat my hat.

10 January 2009 at 14:52  
Blogger Bryan said...

I congratulate Your Grace on a clear and concise treatment of a subject which many of the participants prefer to keep muddled and murky.

Some lesser men might fear the repercussions of such plain spoken truthfulness, therefore it would seem there may actually be a positive side to have already been burnt at the stake, as it were. :-)

10 January 2009 at 16:47  
Blogger Unsworth said...

Anon 14:52

Murdoch The Manipulator?

Would you like brown sauce or ketchup with that Trilby?

10 January 2009 at 17:14  
Blogger len.allan said...

anonymouse 14:52
there is none so blind as those who will not see! what do you think the purpose of terrorism is?

10 January 2009 at 17:36  
Anonymous Jim Carr said...

So anti-Israeli = anti-Semitic?

In this case, yes.
Nobody in their right mind could support Hamas against Israel.
That lets out the Left and, apparently, you.

10 January 2009 at 19:55  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Jim Carr

So the circumstances can change the absolute definitions of such terms? How very convenient.

As I have indicated here and elsewhere, condemnation of Israeli actions which lead to deaths and injuries of civilian non-combatants does not equate to support for Hamas. If you cannot understand that position I shall not be surprised.

10 January 2009 at 21:31  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

I would urge all your Grace's readers who have expressed sympathy with Israel to attend one of the Israel support rallies tomorrow (11th Jan) in Trafalgar Square (10.40am mt, 11am start) or Albert Square, Manchester (11am). Much more worthwhile than attending a church service and much more practical than simply posting a comment on a blog.

10 January 2009 at 23:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unsworth, who cares for your distinctions, either today or some time in the future you'll be overtaken by events. At this time the Israelis have gone into combat knowing full well that they'll be fighting in an urban setting. The only imperative is to win comprehensively, for that will ensure that in the long run fewer people will die.


10 January 2009 at 23:48  
Anonymous USpace said...

Not a good development, but not at all surprising either. People must realize that this is not a border dispute. Islamic Fundamentalists want ALL Jews dead and gone. Period.

The delusional insanity of many on the Left and a few on the Right about this is frightening. They ignore all facts and logic. Hamas, a terrorist organization killing the so-called Palestinians' hope for peace, are evil garbage, they must be eliminated. They have sent thousands, yes thousands of missiles into Israel over the past couple of years and Israel had never exercised their right of self-defense, until recently, when Hamas broke the ceasefire and started firing rockets again.

Israel is FINALLY doing the right thing. If Hamas is destroyed, then, if the rest of the 'Palestinians' really want peace they can give up their dream of destroying Israel, if not, they will never have peace.

Israel must destroy as much of Hamas as possible before the MSM and the idiots and ignorants whine loud enough for them to stop. They must only quit when they are ready.

For EVERY missile shot into Israel at least ONE missile should be returned to the area as close as possible to the shooter. Tit for tat. Every single missile should be returned. Period. Treat them like adults, if they kill, they will be killed. If they send missiles, they will receive them. That is the only way they will learn. Screw public opinion, force them to see the truth, or let them be damned.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
hope your kids grow up

to strap bombs on babies
to kill other children

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
let someone hit you

over and over again
and NEVER hit back harder

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
DO NOT defend your country

from terrorist monkeys
just let them bomb you at will

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never mock Hamas

it's just their religion
All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
Philosophy of Liberty Cartoon
Help Stop Terrorism Today!


11 January 2009 at 00:14  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

How you are herded into making only the decision 'they' allow you to have.

11 January 2009 at 05:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

''you certainly have a right to remove that threat.
'...the current Israeli response seems out of proportion to the physical damage suffered from those thousands of rockets''

You do not remove the threat by acting in proportion. You do it by destroying and eradicating it.

11 January 2009 at 09:33  
Anonymous Nelson said...

I wonder how long Whitehall would put up with being the recipient of rocket attacks from say Scotland or Wales?

11 January 2009 at 09:45  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Ivan 23:48

Very similar to what Goering said of the 'Jewish Problem'.

How history repeats itself - if we do not or have not learned the lessons.

Care to define 'long run'?

11 January 2009 at 13:50  
Anonymous Jim Carr said...

Unsworth said...So the circumstances can change the absolute definitions of such terms? How very convenient.

If you are "absolutely" anti-Israel no matter the rights and wrongs of any given situation, you are anti-semitic.

11 January 2009 at 14:31  
Blogger len.allan said...

I will define anti -semitism for you as you seem unaware of what it is!.
Anti- semitism is prejudice and hostility towards jews as a group. Anti-semitism also carries a warning from God who said to Abram" I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you .Genesis 12:3
So it is a matter to take seriously!

11 January 2009 at 15:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anti-zionism = anti-semitism, can someone explain why the Nazis supported Zionism? Quite enthusiastically, as it happens.

11 January 2009 at 15:57  
Anonymous Shaven-headed tattooed knuckledragger said...

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11 January 2009 at 16:45  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Jim Carr

So are all Israelis Jews?

Certainly I am not anti-Israeli, per se, but I do deplore their current actions. So does that make me anti-semitic? Does that mean that I condone Hamas actions?

If so, then this means that Israel must be free to carry out any actions it chooses - and those who may dare to criticise are no better than Nazis, in Israeli eyes.

Extremists and fanatics are everywhere - including, it seems, Israel.

11 January 2009 at 16:46  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Len.allan

So this is something which God said to Abraham - in the context of the Old Testament - therefore we should take it seriously?

What happens if you don't believe in all that stuff?

My question was to highlight the fact that many people seem to believe that assaults upon Israelis are the same as assaults upon Jews.

Setting aside the fact that the Israeli demographics now call that into question, and the fact that there are many more Jews of other nationalities than in Israel, there is the entire debate as to motivations. This current strife is portrayed as a war of religions. That is a convenient artifice. There are many other reasons for the warfare which are nothing to do with religion - and everything to do with politics and economics.

11 January 2009 at 16:57  
Blogger len.allan said...

Unsworth, Whether you believe `that stuff`is of no consequence.
In the scheme of things your opinion counts for nothing!
I would rather take the word of God than your opinion!.
However if you think that religion has no bearing on this matter why do you think the Jewish people are probably the most persecuted people in history? .Just bad luck?
Israel is a relatively small strip of land, why are the nations of the world arguing over it?Why do the arab nations want to destroy Israel?
There is a lot more going on here than is in your philosophy!.

12 January 2009 at 13:34  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Len.allan

In the scheme of what things? And does your opinion count for anything then? You clearly believe there is a God. One might ask which particular God? Of course religion has a bearing - but it is not the sole aspect, as many would wish us to believe. I don't think the 'nations of the world' are arguing over Israel at all. Nor do 'the arab nations' want to destroy it.

I do not think the Jews are the most persecuted (and how do you define degrees of persecution?) in the world. In any event, is there some sort of 'most persecuted' contest? Where would the victims of Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao etc fit into this sliding scale? And does prior persecution somehow give the Jews some sort of a God-given right to inflict persecution on others?

Maybe you should ask the Jews as to why they think "the Jewish people are probably the most persecuted people in history".

Let us not forget that Israelis are not the same as Jews. The two concepts are entirely different.

12 January 2009 at 16:54  
Blogger len.allan said...

Unsworth, are you deliberately not getting the point to prolong your argument, or can you really not see?.
The jews are Gods chosen people and possibly there are people who want to thwart God plans?, has that ever occurred to you?
There is only one God, Creator of the Universe, his name is Yahweh.
There is however the prince of the power of the air, a counterfeit of the true God,who receives homage from the unconverted,and influences a considerable proportion of humanity!.

12 January 2009 at 19:06  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ Len.allen

No I can't say that any of that has occurred to me - fortunately.

You see, recent events in Gaza, and recent actions by the Israelis, have led me to reject my views as to the possibility that there might just be a God - even one called Yahweh.

12 January 2009 at 20:52  
Blogger len.allan said...

Unsworth, God exists!,
whether unsworth recognises him or not!
I don`t think anyone can be aware of God unless God wishes to make himself known to them!.

13 January 2009 at 18:03  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ len.allan

Which particular God did you have in mind? Mammon?

13 January 2009 at 19:35  
Blogger len.allan said...

Is that the best you can do?.
I don`t mind debating but give me something to debate!
How about if I pray for you?.

13 January 2009 at 20:20  
Blogger Unsworth said...

@ len.allen

Debate? Don't be so silly! But do pray for me - if it makes you feel better.

13 January 2009 at 20:44  
Blogger len.allan said...


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