Thursday, February 12, 2009

Church of England affirms mission to convert Jews and Muslims

Actually, it is all non-believers. But it is Jews and Christians who will be particularly sensitive about this. Jewish groups were not best pleased when Pope Benedict reintroduced the Good Friday prayer that ‘all of Israel may be saved’ and for ‘the Lord our God (to) illuminate their hearts so that they may recognise Jesus Christ as saviour of all men’. This is a manifest call to conversion which has not been widely invoked since the reforms Vatican II.

The Pope has resisted all moves to reconsider the re-introduction of this old prayer, and rightly so. He has not been afraid to ostracise Jewry, and neither has he been overly bothered about telling a few home truths to the Muslims.

Now it appears that the Church of England has rediscovered the courage of its convictions, or perhaps conviction (singular) would be more appropriate, for it still has quite a few of its foundational convictions to re-discover. However, the uniqueness of Christ as the means of salvation is pre-eminent, and there could not be a finer place to start.

Notwithstanding that in the present climate it may find itself being prosecuted for inciting hatred.

A vote in the General Synod yesterday has made explicit that the Church of England has a mandate to proselytise; to convert all non-believers. Eschewing all the multicultural and multi-faith political correctness of pluralism, they reiterated the uniqueness of Christ and the imperative of preaching the gospel to all – even Jews and Muslims, whatever the offence. And this offence will be great, for conversion for many Muslims amounts to apostasy, which some consider punishable by death.

It is profoundly encouraging that orthodoxy has been affirmed, for what is the Church without Christ? What is to love without communicating the unique salvation wrought by Jesus?

The theology of mission is a complex and labyrinthine, but the difficulties and challenges posed by the contemporary context should not overwhelm its pursuit. As the Bishop of Rochester observes: “Our nation is rooted in the Christian faith and that is the basis of welcoming people of other faiths. You cannot have an honest conversation on the basis of fudge." The zeal which took the gospel to Britain’s overseas colonies throughout the 19th century now needs to be expressed at home, for she who once was found has been lost.

The marginalisation of Christianity and the persecution of believers are proceeding at a rapid and most alarming rate. A decade of Labour has done more to offend Christians than the BNP has ever done to offend ethnic minorities.

We know about nurses who endure suspension and face dismissal merely for offering to pray; we know of the closure of Catholic adoption agencies; the threats to Christian schools; the ascendancy of gay rights over religious conviction...

But news has reached Cranmer this morning of Jennie Cain, a school receptionist, who asked her friends to pray for her daughter and Landscore Primary School in Devon, after an incident in which the five-year-old had been reprimanded by a teacher for talking to a friend about heaven and Jesus.

It seems that five-year olds may celebrate Diwali or Eid in their schools, but God forbid that they might talk about Jesus.

The prayer request was sent to close friends in a private email from a home computer, yet she has been told by Gary Read, the head teacher, that she has brought the school into disrepute and is facing dismissal for professional misconduct.

Cranmer is appalled to hear of this latest persecution.

He is even more disturbed that one of Mrs Cain’s ‘close friends’ has manifestly leaked the private email.

Satan still appears as an angel of light.


Blogger Laurelian said...

This is good news for Christianity in the UK... but don't be surprised if soon in the media you find "Anglicans in Nazi Shocker" headlines.

12 February 2009 at 08:36  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your last sentence is quite apposite. I think we have forgotten that the fight between good and evil is eternal. And at the moment, satan is in the ascendency. Even in the established Christian church.

12 February 2009 at 08:56  
Anonymous Gnostic said...

I think the grossly misguided teacher and the grubby tattletale who betrayed a friend's confidence are the ones who really need praying for. This is political correctness in extremis.

As for the school's busybody head, he needs to to the job he's paid to do - which OUGHT to be education and NOT social engineering. If he believes his job description includes persecuting anyone who holds Christian beliefs, even in private, then maybe he's in the wrong job.

I hear the fragrant Jaqui is always on the lookout for new assistant gauleiters...

12 February 2009 at 09:23  
Blogger dmk said...

Remember this is the Church of England, so it's hardly a major threat to your average Jew or Muslim.

There seem to be more secularists who are ready to be offended on behalf of folk of other faiths, than there are members of those faiths who are actually offended.

12 February 2009 at 09:48  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

The Telegraph this morning quotes that the Headmaster as saying that

".. we do not condone one child frightening a seven year old with the prospect of going to hell if she does not believe in God.."

Children talk about lots of things in the playground vampires, frankenstein and so on. They like to scare themselves.

The fact that the headmaster has chosen to focus on the 'problem' Jesus and the Christian issues tells more about his agenda rather than whether children are frightened or not.

If he overreacts like this, I wouldnt want my children taught by him.

What he has done is cause enormous distress to Mrs Cain, as can be seen from the photograph in the Telegraph and on Your Grace's post this morning.

He is not fit to be a headmaster.

12 February 2009 at 10:08  
Anonymous len said...

It is not politically correct to be a christian!
Because to be a Christian is to be lifted out of this worlds corrupt system and to belong to Gods Kingdom.
Jesus Christ defeated satan and opened a doorway for anyone who would follow him to escape this corrupt dying world.
Satan hates Christ and would close that doorway to all who would follow Christ.
Jesus Christ (like Moses)came to lead his people to freedom.
Satan ( like pharaoh) does all he can to keep people in bondage.

12 February 2009 at 10:26  
Anonymous Alexandrian said...

John 15:18 "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first."

John 16:33 "In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

12 February 2009 at 10:44  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

The increasing regulatory and severity of the stories like Jennie Cains are extremely depressing & alarming. And I have to say that this case is the most sinister & distrubing of all.

An INFANT CHILD reprimanded for talking about her faith. Her parent reprimanded for letting her child talk about her faith. A member of staff threatened with dismissal for PRIVATE prayer requests. This really is a witch hunt.

I for one won't let this go down without a fight. Can I urge your readers to seriously consider contributing to the Christian Institutes legal defence fund - which it seems is going to be called upon more & more. If anyone can think of any other direct means by which we can let the odious, devious, and downright malicious people involved (the teacher & head teacher) know the strength of our feeling & our resolve to see them removed from their positions of responsibility towards children then please communicate them to me. I will gladly participate.

I am caught between utter rage, deep pessimism, awful foreboding but also a sense of dread for the teacher & head teacher of that school : It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Let us pray for the faith of all our "little ones" - they are going to need mighty courage & divine strength.

12 February 2009 at 10:48  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're going to have a job if 5 year old children aren't even allowed to talk about Jesus in school without being reprimanded and their mother who is a school secretary being given the sack after seeking help from her church on the matter!

Can you imagine this happening to a minority faith?

12 February 2009 at 10:55  
Anonymous Excommunicated by Rowan Williams said...

Overheard in the playground:


12 February 2009 at 11:13  
Anonymous len said...

The Gospel of Jesus Christ seems to be a source of information that 'The World' will do all it can to surpress and deny.
Could it be possible that this Gospel could actually be true?, to be a key that will open a doorway to another kingdom, another world?

12 February 2009 at 11:56  
Anonymous churchmouse said...

Like others here, I note the media's increasing stress on anti-Christianity. In a way, it's a pleasant change of topic from 'the stars' and other ghosts of the zite; and it does mean that the euSSR is showing its iron boot a little more honestly. Give 'em rope, you know?

It is, of course, all part of the cultural invasion campaign - and perhaps they've overestimated the success of their indoctrination and intimidation so far. I also think they overestimate its effectiveness as an instrument for social re-arrangement! The other big flaw in their perception, as several here seem to suggest, is refusal to recognize the veil of mortality.

Another bit of ignorance that shows up especially clearly in this case is the belief that the central tenet of Christianity is the threat of hell-fire for "non-compliance"! I attended a university library exhibition in the US recently - it was supposed to be about mediaeval manuscripts. The students who presented the show actually made the claim that the illustrations of Hell, etc. were, primarily, intended to terrify the poor ignorant peasantry into submission.

Talk about re-creating (er, sorry "projecting") the world in the eu image.

Anyway - I find these useful points as we turn to face Anti-Christ: I'm seeing that he only ever presents his own misconception of Truth, to which he is, inevitably, a stranger (geist, indeed).

It also means that I wear my Cross with a different level of consciousness - much more deliberately, and much more often.

12 February 2009 at 12:56  
Anonymous martin sewell said...

I wonder if this headmaster complies with the duty under the 1944 Education act to deliver religious Education and public worship?

12 February 2009 at 13:27  
Blogger Microcosm said...

Interesting move, especially if the guy middle left can stay awake long enough. What we are in dire need of right now is not Muslim and Jewish conversions of faith, rather we should seek to remove any Talmudic or Islamic influence on Politics. Pan Indo European interests need asserting over the intrerests of Faiths, first and foremost, both to solve the Middle East crisis and avoid growing tensions spared on by Jew and Muslim division.

Many present day Jews and Muslims could find common ground if their pre conversion, Indo European roots were examined. Before their forefathers turned to the current extreme doctrines they now live by.

Pan Indo European Solidarity will give us the concerted numbers to face down the petty half witted commie destroyers, free from the racial and religious divisions they so cunningly use to their advantage.

12 February 2009 at 13:38  
Blogger Captain Haddock said...

I know I'm on digital hallowed ground here,but one of the things (and there are plenty of others!) that really depresses me about most religions is their desire to "spread the good news" and convert us poor heathens who haven't seen the light.
Please just leave us alone. You do your thing and the Captain and his ilk will potter quietly around until it's time to become compost and someone can feed me to my runner beans.

12 February 2009 at 13:43  
Anonymous Lord Achmed the Undead Terrorist said...

Geert Wilders' arrival imminent.

12 February 2009 at 13:59  
Anonymous bright-eyed mouse said...

Captain Haddock@ 13:43. When I was young and foolish, I expressed sympathy for the depression of another captain. His critic rejoined -"He should stop running his ship on the rocks, then, shouldn't he?"

Three other points:
i) Only one religion has Gospels = Old English for 'Good News.' [cf. Lat and Gk for the same]

ii) A mole by any other name will remain as blind. We may, nevertheless, express our own mind here - As you say; Sir!

iii) Many souls are less subterranean or nocturnal than your honored self; indeed, they are phototrophic. I mean, your runner beans won't feed so well without Light, will they?

So we follow the injunction of our Almighty Captain - and we do not hide Light under bushels.

When we're not sleeping, that is.

12 February 2009 at 14:42  
Anonymous NON MOUSE said...

The Undead One -

Oh wonderful!!!
Well done the HOL!!!
Well done Your Grace (for I'm sure you helped).

What can we do to show support?

12 February 2009 at 14:51  
Anonymous Evangelist said...

Capt`n Haddock
Part of our thing is to cast our nets!
For haddock perhaps?

12 February 2009 at 15:00  
Anonymous Lord Achmed the Undead Terrorist said...

"Mr Wilders told The Times on the flight that the British Government was “the biggest bunch of cowards in Europe”.

..and the Tory party are the second biggest bunch!

What's happened to David (Call me 'Neville') Cameron? Does he have any opinion at all on this ban? Come on you spineless Tory wussies, SAY SOMETHING!

12 February 2009 at 15:02  
Anonymous Wilders Denied Entry said...

Two MEP's have said we should be nice to Muslims so that when they become the Majority, they will be nikce to us.
The Popes aid has said that 'Attempts to Islamify the West cannot be denied'
The EU wants us under Sharia LAw as an Extra Layer of Repression, under the dual Jackboot of a False Flag Created
Police state and Sharia Law

This is not the First time, Tyrannical Despots have wanted this for Europe.

Napoleon's vision of a United Europe's constitution based on the Koran and Hitler's admiration for Islam.

Napoleon stated, "I hope the time is not far off when I shall be able to unite all the wise and educated men of all the countries and establish a uniform regime based on the principles of Qur'an which alone are true and which alone can lead men to happiness."
Remember that Napoleon was the architect of the United States of Europe.
Hitler also tried to unify Europe and was a great admirer of Islam, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness….”5 (A. Speer, Inside the Third Reich, pp. 142-143) "

Sorry people, the evidence is not undeniable, Westminster wants your children under the dual Jackboot of a False Flag created Police state and Sharia Law.
Westminster wants us under Sharia Law, Decision time people

12 February 2009 at 15:04  
OpenID jobtwenteewun1to3 said...

Capt Haddock,

I can not speak for other religions, however I can say it is not for us believers in Jesus the Messiah to assume we may convert you or others. Our role, as commanded by Him, is to be witnesses to the good news we have received. The clever stuff, ie. 'conversion' is down to the grace of God alone.

Now please tell me whom should we obey - Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God who commands us to preach His gospel or some finite fishy fellow such as yourself???

Not much of a choice really is it Sir?

12 February 2009 at 15:11  
Anonymous Lord Achmed the Undead Terrorist said...

"Tories choose silence over Geert Wilders"




12 February 2009 at 15:41  
Blogger Captain Haddock said...

The Captain would thank you all for being so solicitous for the soul of a degenerate old soak ... except that he contends there is no such thing.
He does enjoy the company of thoughtful individuals though, so cheers and may your God make you happy...

12 February 2009 at 15:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wilders denied...
Oh. So now?

Well what's their definition of nice, then?

12 February 2009 at 15:55  
Anonymous Edward Keene said...

But 8 members of Synod voted AGAINST the motion! Against the position of CHRIST in CHRISTianity!

12 February 2009 at 16:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave the Jews be, concentrate on the Muslims. The more Muslims you bring to Christ, the better.

12 February 2009 at 16:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Capt. H:

You're the Captain.

You have a mind of your own; Sir.

No doubt the runner beans will make somebody happy, finally.... by your definition!

12 February 2009 at 16:29  
Anonymous not a machine said...

i thought it was herod that persecuted the innocent children of bethlehem not a head teacher .

unbelieveable your grace !!

the stupid fools

12 February 2009 at 17:23  
Anonymous Preacher said...

Welcome to all brothers & sisters who call Christ Lord in the pursuit of spreading the great commission, perhaps now we can make this country a leading light in world evangelism again, my prayer is that the sleeping giant is now fully awake and not just turning over in bed.
With regard to the other matter of the remarks of the head teacher, foolish man, I understand you do not wish children to be scared of going to Hell, then stop being fearful & lead them to the light that frees them from the fear of ever seeing this awful place, or are you scared of the truth yourself? Jesus LOVES little children but youth is no guarantee of longevity indeed many are snuffed out in the womb by abortion before even drawing breath. If we are to follow youyr lead then we should remove all warning signs such as "Deep Water" or "Thin Ice" in case we give them nightmares about drowning.

12 February 2009 at 17:25  
Blogger Wrinkled Weasel said...

It's fairly clear now that for Christians, interaction with public bodies is going to be negative.

This is now a political issue. The public sector is the responsibility of Government. Since this Government "does not do God" and certainly does not "do" Jesus Christ, Christians who vote Labour need to examine their hearts. Why vote for a Government that has presided over the vilification and persecution of Christians in public service, and has done nothing?

12 February 2009 at 17:43  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

".. we do not condone one child frightening a seven year old with the prospect of going to hell if she does not believe in God.."

Liberalism makes language impossible because it can refer outside the self thus infringing "the freedom of the individual."

12 February 2009 at 18:02  
Anonymous Mouse for Christ said...

It's fairly clear now that this is a mozzy country.

I just read an AP bulletin that said there are 2M of them in the UK. That must be a lie. I hardly see a white face any more there must be at least 50M.

Still - we do have a duty to convert them. We really need to set about it, regardless of their hatred and incitement against us. That should just make us work harder than ever. Onward, Christian Soldiers!!!

Unless you want to be in their world eternally... March. Demonstrate. Sing. Chant. Pray. Preach. Put up more crosses and carry more crosses than the world ever saw before. Every time that pathetic imitation of a parliament opens its doors, be outside holding a prayer service. Stand outside every mosk doing the same.

12 February 2009 at 18:53  
Anonymous len said...

I like your spirit!
Hardly a mouse, more like a lion!

12 February 2009 at 19:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Daughter was taught by Read...typical lefty liberal...banned competitive sports etc....not liked by parents most of which left his last school

12 February 2009 at 19:40  
Blogger McKenzie said...

I am trying my best to get my head around what happened today Cranmer. I am trying to rationalise the situation as best as I can.

I can appreciate that Geers is too controversial because of his claim that the Koran should be banned. If he had not of said that then maybe he could have been admitted. But I cannot help wondering what on earth was going on today with regards to the media: they seemed to be reveling in the humiliation?? The media today has created more hatred than the BNP could ever hope to generate, and this is what has me thinking that it is intentional.

I can quite honestly say that I will have difficulty sleeping tonight. I can sense the dismay around the nation. I am not in any way a politician, or diplomat, nor do I consider myself to be fit to be any kind of representative of my country, simply because I get far too emotional. But I am aware of this. I regulate my self. But today I am going to declare to the world that I feel immense and deeply felt hatred. I know how swearing is not appreciated on here my old friend, but if you wish to hear the level of frustration and hatred that todays events have caused me to feel, then it is necessary. I feel that for some strange testing reason, there are people setting out to deliberately bring out the worse in ordinary people. I do use rum language in my everyday dealings because I am an old sausage, one of the lads so to speak. But don't expect me to apologise for this because I'm done with apologies for now.

I have something to say to the world right now. I am well nigh sick to the bloody back teeth of all this dam Islam nonsense. I have gone from being mildly irritated with it to absolute bloody hatred at the slightest mention. By God I never thought I could generate within me such violence of mind. Lord or no Lord I tell you now that bloody bastard Ahmedd can rot in hell with his bloody pedophile prophet and the rest of his murdering terrorist savages. I'll give him 10,000 Jihadis, I tell you now I would like to kick his bastard face in to a pulp so I would. Why the hell should I have to endure this dam foreign religion dictating every dam thing I can and cannot say?

This will not end on good terms for non of us. This is starting to overflow into the world of decent educated people. You people in the media have set things in motion today. If I thought for one minute I could summon all the forces of hell at my side I would have no hesitation, none, regardless, but hell is in full swing without me, that's the dam trouble with it all. Pray to God, pray to the Holy God that might be out there that I don't have my way with the lot of you. May Satan himself join me in a unholy crusade to strip ye of your flesh and boil your bloody bastard heads in oil!!!

12 February 2009 at 23:06  
Blogger McKenzie said...

And I'll tell you something else as well, keith vaz is lucky it was Boris that flipped his lid and not me because there is another hater of white people I would gladly do time for. If I had any money in my pocket now, I would get the hell out of this circus, but I don't. The UK is now a prison Island for me. A filthy vile community of prostitutes and Satanic whoremongers. I can't say anything to insult you because I know you are well nigh proud of your achievements. Oh you have defeated me, there is nothing left. its just a fucking pig's swill and your welcome to it.

12 February 2009 at 23:26  
Blogger Frugal Dougal said...

Benedict XVI's reinstatement of the earlier Good Friday prayer is worrying, as it goes against the spirit of the Second Vatican Treaty (which did NOT change the Mass!) document Nostra Aetate which affirmed Judaism as the "elder brother" of Christianity, a religion of which Jesus was a member when he gave the Great Commission to the Apostles. Still, it could be worse...the prayer used to call for the conversion of the "perfidious Jews" until the adjective was removed by Pius XII.

Muslims are a different matter altogether. The finer aspects of the religion are being buried by the weight of resentment felt against the sizeable terrorist wing of the religion. And as has been seen, the Labour party is acting as a load of collaborators, waving the terrorists in and keeping Wilders out. Conversion to Christianity would be therapeutic for tham and the world in general.

12 February 2009 at 23:50  
Anonymous Shaven-headed tattooed knuckledragger said...

Today has been a day of unprecedented shame, humiliation and degradation for the British people and a disaster for the crumbling political system.

It has demonstrated that there is no effective opposition to the government. There is a vacuum within the body politic.

However, nature abhors a vacuum, and within the next few months that vacuum will be filled by a certain rapidly growing political party.

In the past, that party has appealed mostly to the proles, but very soon people who once considered themselves too posh to vote for it will realise there is nowhere left for them to turn.

Our day will come.

13 February 2009 at 00:27  
Anonymous I'll second that said...

Come with me if you want to live

13 February 2009 at 04:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jews don't evangelize because we believe that God will judge all according to their acts on this earth, not their beliefs or faith.

When did Christians adopt the opposite idea? And why?

13 February 2009 at 05:33  
Anonymous churchmouse said...

Anon@ 05:33 - Methinks that Justification by Faith means that justification comes through one's faith in God, which presupposes Love of God - Charity. Said faith and love necessarily precede and inform one's actions. I suspect, therefore, that this is the same as the Jewish requirement, not the opposite: the New Law developed from, and links to, the Old.

It's my understanding that actions informed by other motives than Faith are void or empty ("vanity"); as are faiths ('religions') professed for cosmetic effect.

I distinguish, of course, between two aspects of the word 'faith': i) inner, and ii)outer - in the sense of organizations set up by the community.

In general support of my interpretation - the Gospels show Christ speaking and acting against the hypocrisies of the Pharisees; St. Paul subsequently addressed the issues of justification.

13 February 2009 at 06:53  
Anonymous some bloke said...

I find it telling that this case and that of NHS nurse Caroline Petrie took place in Devon and Somerset respectively, both places have very few minorities to get offended in the first place.
Perhaps local Public Administrators feel that they have been insufficiently zealous in their support of Political Correctness and are thus buffering up their Righteous credentials.

13 February 2009 at 07:20  
Anonymous Rex Carolus Martyr said...

Frugal Dougal,

--Benedict XVI's reinstatement of the earlier Good Friday prayer is worrying, as it goes against the spirit of the Second Vatican Treaty (which did NOT change the Mass!) document Nostra Aetate which affirmed Judaism as the "elder brother" of Christianity, a religion of which Jesus was a member when he gave the Great Commission to the Apostles. Still, it could be worse...the prayer used to call for the conversion of the "perfidious Jews" until the adjective was removed by Pius XII.--

Since none of those documents or pseudo-councils have jurisdiction outside the Bishop of Rome's remit, I fail to see their relevance to this discussion.

On that note, one might as well post some Collects for Good Friday prevalent in sundry places which follow:

ALMIGHTY God, we beseech thee graciously to behold this thy family, for whom our Lord Jesus Christ was contented to be betrayed, and given up into the hands of wicked men, and to suffer death upon the cross, who now liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Ghost, ever one God, world without end. Amen.

ALMIGHTY and everlasting God, by whose Spirit the whole body of the Church is governed and sanctified; Receive our supplications and prayers, which we offer before thee for all estates of men in thy holy Church, that every member of the same, in his vocation and ministry may truly and godly serve thee; through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

O MERCIFUL God, who hast made all men, and hatest nothing that thou hast made, nor wouldest the death of a sinner, but rather that he should be converted and live; Have mercy upon all Jews, Turks, Infidels, and Hereticks, and take from them all ignorance, hardness of heart, and contempt of thy Word; and so fetch them home, blessed Lord, to thy flock, that they may be saved among the remnant of the true Israelites, and be made one fold under one shepherd, Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, world without end. Amen.

13 February 2009 at 08:58  
Anonymous ahem said...

They ought to concentrate on bringing the Gospel to all the so-called Christians in England who are not actually Christians. First things first.

13 February 2009 at 13:49  
Anonymous dormouse said...

Aye, ahem. Charity begins at Home.
Nurse Petrie and this young mother are right, methinks.

13 February 2009 at 16:05  

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