Tuesday, March 10, 2009

President Obama ranks Martin McGuinness over Gordon Brown

Now we understand what the President meant when he downgraded the US-UK ‘special relationship’ to simply that of being ‘one of our closest allies’. Today Northern Ireland’s First Minister Peter Robinson and Deputy First Minister and former guerrilla commander for the Óglaigh na hÉireann Martin McGuinness arrive in the United States for a coast-to-coast St Patrick’s Day tour.

Cranmer is not sure when St Patrick’s Day developed into a week of festivities, but all the leprechauns and faerie folk will need to bury their crock o’ gold a little deeper if they are to avoid being cajoled into continuing their investments into the Province. That is, if their Irish-American crocks have not been depleted or totally eradicated by the credit crunch. The DUP-Sinn Féin duo will certainly need to ask a few leprechauns where the gold is stashed if they are to continue to accommodate their spending plans.

This tour culminates in Washington DC where President Obama will give the political leaders of Northern Ireland a welcome far and above that granted to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

Gordon brown entered the White House through a side entrance and was granted a half-hour chat with the President followed by a working lunch. There was no press conference and the British delegation was limited in numbers.

Mr McGuinness will walk in through the front door of the White House and be given the full red carpet treatment. It is a de facto State Visit with full retinue and a joint press conference. There shall be two hours of talks and a lavish gala reception at which Mr McGuinness shall be a guest of honour, seated on the top table.

It is now clear that Gordon Brown was not so much rushing to Washington to beat President Sarkozy or Chancellor Merkel, but to beat the Irish.

In the event, the Prime Minister has been upstaged and humiliated anyway. The relationship between the Democrats and Irish Republicans has always been close, and Gordon Brown’s bestowal of a knighthood upon Senator Kennedy has done little to redirect their traditional sympathies.

It is rumoured that President Obama will use the occasion to announce the appointment of a Special Envoy to Northern Ireland. With news today of the murder of a policeman following the execution of two British soldiers over the weekend, there may indeed be a role for such an envoy to dissuade the disciples of Mr McGuinness from their murderous ways. One awaits lots of green t-shirts proclaiming the signs and wonders of O'Bama.


Anonymous Voyager said...

I think Obama is cool on Brown because of Basra. The British are opening lines to Hezbollah and Hamas and Taliban trying to bounce Obama into the same direction.

The state of Pakistan reminds Obama that British Labour is in hock to Muslim bloc votes in key constituencies and he will be well aware that Geert Wilders has been in Washington recently but cannot get to Londonistan.

I think the US has reason to be exceedingly displeased with Brown for he has a treacherous approach and no doubt Blair has fully informed them of Brown's problems with Macavity Syndrome

Much as I think Obama is in over his head, I cannot see why he should find Brown a particularly useful ally in anything.

10 March 2009 at 07:56  
Blogger Gnostic said...

What a diplomatic coup for Mr US of A. IRA terrorists have started up a murder campaign in Northern Ireland and he invites one of the most well known ones through his front door and kills the fatted calf.

Perhaps we should tell Obama exactly where he can stick his Special Envoy...

10 March 2009 at 08:13  
Anonymous len said...

McGuinness and Adams both have blood on their hands.
This is akin to Brown welcoming the 9/11 terrorists to No 10 .

So much for'The special relationship'

Obama is coming out flying his true

10 March 2009 at 08:28  
Anonymous len said...

McGuinness and Adams both have blood on their hands.
This is akin to Brown welcoming the 9/11 terrorists to No 10 .

So much for'The special relationship'

Obama is coming out flying his true

10 March 2009 at 08:29  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

Ireland is heading South financially and their political class may well be held in lower regard that that of the mainland. The professionalism and rapid repeat of the attacks suggests a bigger picture.

Do Republicans believe than can capture the whole of the island of Ireland?

Is the objective the right of the Irish to be governed by the Irish, or by anyone but the British?

Sinn Féin has implicitly been supportive of the massive level of immigration into Ireland as it was one of the few parties to oppose the removal of the automatic right to citizenship to those born in Ireland.

How could this be reconciled with “Ireland for the Irish” or “Irish jobs for Irish workers”? Is this a point of difference between Sinn Féin and the leaders of this new campaign?

As approximately 80% of government decisions emanate from Brussels, the Irish in 2009 have less political control of Ireland than in 1909. Is this a point of difference between Sinn Féin and the leaders of this new campaign?

10 March 2009 at 08:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can understand the US administration being no fan of Marxist Brown and co but this love in with Irish Republicans is an INSULT to all patriotic Britons. I wonder how they would react if Briton showed such support to a state that was killing their soldiers and countrymen. Its about time we stopped letting the US use and abuse us.

10 March 2009 at 09:12  
Blogger Jomo said...

The DUP-Sinn Fein pact has always been a marriage of convenience to allow both sets of extremists access to power. The Stalin-Hitler deal that led to the destruction of Poland might be a useful historical parallel.

Irish Republicanism (or as now described "the wider republican community") is wedded to the doctrine of physical force.

There will always be another group of pistoleros waiting to take up the struggle. The ex-gunmen Adams and McGuinnness can't deliver a united Ireland and the rest of Ireland has now too many financial problems to even think about it.

Sadly for the real and potential victims, it looks like the ten-year armistice is over. The DUP will look even more ridiculous than normal prancing around the White House with yesterday's men.

The peace process was always an excuse for appeasement and disengagement.It now provides a useful model for the Democrats as they move to dismantle the "war on terror" to pay for their madcap schemes to provide America with the dubious benefits of a centralised health system.

At least Brown can blame Blair for this particular mess. However,his eagerness to abase himself before Obama and Kennedy has done little to shore up his tattered reputation.

O for a British Prime Minister who doesn't want to go to Washington!

10 March 2009 at 09:29  
Blogger Gnostic said...

I holiday in Southern Ireland. It's a beautiful place and the locals are warm, friedly and generous. I've always been made welcome and never had cause to be fearful. In fact I'm considering retiring there when the time comes.

When I last visited Claremorris, County Mayo, there was a walled enclave containing a factory and houses. The factory is owned by a Muslim. The houses and eight feet wall were built by the Muslim factory owner. The houses are for his Muslim workforce.

This self imposed segregation does not go down well with the locals and causes a lot of resentment. Other than shopping it seems the Muslims do not interact with the local population in any way. When they walk into some shops a deathly silence falls until the interlopers conclude their business and leave. When I ventured to ask why it was explained that the Muslims acted like the locals were inferior.

If this is the sort of immigration Sinn Fein is promoting then I think they are on a hiding to nothing because the Irish, unlike their national stereotype, are far from stupid. Let's face it. They voted "no", didn't they?

10 March 2009 at 09:30  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

The people of northern ireland would not thank you for calling them irish,they consider themselves British.Who can now say that terrorism does not produce the ascendancy of thier political principles,this must be a huge encouragement to all anti-democratic murderers,and shows that if you can kill for long enough,you too can get a place at the taxpayers trough.It has always amazed me that the republicans,while screaming ireland for the irish,are with gusto ,filling thier country with the unassimilable dregs of the third world,and now we seem to have embarked upon round three of the "troubles",so should it be ireland for any-one but the irish?

10 March 2009 at 09:36  
Anonymous Maturecheese said...

This shows a complete lack of respect for us and a slap in the face for the grieving familys' of the poor boys that were murdered in NI. we should pull our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and let the Bloody USA go it alone. I am bloody angry!

10 March 2009 at 09:45  
Anonymous Nelson said...

Gentlemen, during the "troubles" the IRA were not only killing our servicemen, they were a vigilante force who ruled aith an AK47 or a shotgun, the transgressors were scared to death of them. Now they have become "legitimate" can we be expected to believe that Messr's Adams & McGuiness could not find out who is responsible & deliver the names to the appropiate authorities? Sorry chaps but I'm afraid that Pres' Obama & the Irish lads are still playing the old game of open options. Wake up Gord & smell the Irish coffee.

10 March 2009 at 09:51  
Blogger The Heresiarch said...

Nothing new here. All American administrations suck up to the Irish. It has nothing to do with international relations, and everything to do with the existence of a large, well-organised and self-conscious Irish American community. The real comparison here is with Israel. Though of course Israel is strategically rather more important than Ireland, so people mutter darkly about "the Jewish lobby". There's far less muttering about the Irish lobby, though it's every bit as influential.

10 March 2009 at 10:09  
Anonymous bugs bunny said...

"The people of northern ireland would not thank you for calling them irish,they consider themselves British"

No, more people in NI consider themselves Irish than British (NI Life and Telegraph 1999), including about half of all Protestants and the overwhelming majority of Catholics. Up until the Troubles, it was admittedly more common for Protestants to assert their Irish identity.

"filling thier country with the unassimilable dregs of the third world"
Dregs? I am as anti-PC as anyone but this language is positively racist.

10 March 2009 at 10:25  
Anonymous bugs bunny said...

The goal of the RIRA is not simply to kill the innocent; they want to overthrow the state. They will not acheive that aim, but they can make life an awful nuisance. They are as anti-southern Ireland as they are anti-British, they see themselves as the only legitimate army in Ireland. The Republic of Ireland being referred to as to the 26 counties, and NI as the 6 counties. They regard both governments as usurpers.

As for the British soldiers, much of the pious condemnations of their killing has been hypocritical nonsense. When you sign up to the army, you are, in effect, mortgaging your own life. You should only expect to die, especially if you are sent to disputed terrority. I regret the loss of the two soldiers' lives, but AFAIC they shouldn't be there in the first place. Had the British Armed Forces not been in Ireland, nobody would be shooting at them.

10 March 2009 at 10:47  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

Gnostic wrote ... The houses and eight feet wall were built by the Muslim factory owner. ...

Factory name? Product? Customers?

Englishman,bugs bunny: how about those indigenous to the British Isles

10 March 2009 at 10:53  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the trip had been cancelled according to the Today programme ??

10 March 2009 at 11:38  
Anonymous The recusant said...

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.
The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: “There’s nothing special about Britain. You’re just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn’t expect special treatment.”

10 March 2009 at 11:52  
Blogger Cranmer said...

Anon 11.38

It appears that three murders in the Province may have caused a re-think on this visit. The story is developing.

However, His Grace has decided to leave the post up as he has no doubt that Mr McGuinness will be in Washington for St Patrick's Day next week, unless further murders are considered to render the celebration unseemly.

10 March 2009 at 11:52  
Anonymous ukipwebmaster said...

Jim Allister condemns the Murderers:


10 March 2009 at 12:55  
Blogger brian said...

We don't know yet where Obama's sympathies lie but in any case we should pay less account to the so called 'special relationship' [which may, in any event, be dead'], stop being servile and get up off our knees in front of the USA and Obama and start behaving as a confident SOVEREIGN country which has had [and, I hope will have] a huge influence on the world. It won't happen under this govt, though. One of the things that concerns me: is our possession of the Trident nuclear deterrent susceptible to the vagaries of the USA?

10 March 2009 at 13:26  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

ukipwebmaster wrote ... Jim Allister condemns the Murderers...

On BBC Radio 4 News (World At One) today he said that the killers were professional, hence trained, hence were members of, or were trained by PIRA.

He further said that they could be identified by Sinn Féin as former PIRA members who were against the current political settlement.

10 March 2009 at 13:42  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Bert Rustle said:

Gnostic wrote ... The houses and eight feet wall were built by the Muslim factory owner. ...

Factory name? Product? Customers?

Dunno. The wall is 8' high. I'm 5'6" and the wrong colour to go take a look. However, if you are interested, head over to Claremorris and then follow the Ballyhaunis road. You won't be able to miss the giant blot on the landscape. Looks like a prison stockade.

10 March 2009 at 15:03  
Blogger Homophobic Horse said...

Maybe Britain we'll get the Russia treatment, maybe America will arm the IRA (Georgia) through NATO and allow the IRA to launch an indiscriminate artillery attack on loyalists (South Ossetians).

I am of course being sarcastic but nothing else could better illustrate the aggressive hubris and moral bankruptcy of America.

10 March 2009 at 15:50  
Anonymous Patriot said...

Surely the Biggest threat to Ireland and the Irish is not the police, nor the Army, nor the British or Irish people but the EU.
These attacks do not make sense, who benefits.

10 March 2009 at 15:52  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

I have tried to keep out of this one, but I have no will power. My heart goes out to the ordinary Irish people who have gone out of their way to change the nightmares of the past.

I hope to God this is not jiggery pokery.

10 March 2009 at 16:25  
Blogger the ink slinger said...

Will Lord Teddy of Old Bushmills be in attendance?

We'd really like to be a fly on the wall at his investiture, if the senile old Mick's still breathing by then.

10 March 2009 at 16:39  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

Where are we up to with conspiracy theories anyway? The convenient ones.

A Princess that dies in a tunnel, no cameras.

Two planes that slam into the Twin Towers with the precision of a guided missile.

Towers conveniently collapse neatly.

A plane that slams into the Pentagon and leaves no wreckage.

A plane that slams into the ground, leaves no wreckage, except a terrorists passport (Jesus).

12 Gunmen in Lahore vanish better than Dr Who can.

A cave dwelling genius who terrorises the world.

Irish hit men, also related to Dr Who.

The total collapse of the worlds financial system, overnight, and it came from nowhere?









Hari Krishna!

10 March 2009 at 17:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gnostic said...

...head over to Claremorris and then follow the Ballyhaunis road. You won't be able to miss the giant blot on the landscape. Looks like a prison stockade...

Invisible on google earth. I know you don't get an indication of the height but; any better directions for viewing from the air? How far along? Travelling east/west? Before the roundabout?

10 March 2009 at 19:03  
Blogger McMicah said...

If I were stuck on, or peddling, the bigoted racio-territorial "nation" point of view, I might agree with the huffy article: it's terrible that a darkish islamo-christianish president of the supposedly unipolar USA empire is welcoming catholicesque Irish terroristish people before the strictly nominally, but nonetheless terribly, leftish prime minister of the great, great, Great Britain.

But I'm not. So I see this as just another news signal. Who are the latest recruits to the fascist, transnational "coalition of the willing"? Who will be next to sell their gadget-happy youth into the lying, thieving, murdering transnational oilygarchy army, in the name of honour, freedom and democracy. GB is already in up to its eyeballs. A Brown visit would have absolutely no "news" value. The function of news is to signal to friends of the oilygarchy who their new friends are, and where to invest their dirty military industrial blood capital.

And while the Aryans make money and break nations, stupid "nationalists" obligingly distract themselves by dancing to another verse of the old bigot's favorite, "Those dirty catholic terrorist Irish!" As Hitler said, "How fortunate for leaders that people do not think."

God made your brain the largest organ for a reason. Use it for something better than parroting centuries-old national/religious/tribal tripe.

10 March 2009 at 19:58  
Anonymous Sabina said...

Obama never met a terrorist he didn't like. He's sucking up to the middle-eastern variety, so why not the IRA?

10 March 2009 at 20:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bugs @ 10 March 10:25 : "No, more people in NI consider themselves Irish than British (NI Life and Telegraph 1999), including about half of all Protestants and the overwhelming majority of Catholics."

Eh? That couldn't be right at all:


Nor could it be right in recent times (2007 latest):


10 March 2009 at 21:16  
Anonymous Logical said...

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10 March 2009 at 22:10  
Anonymous we could always protest said...

But then maybe not.
EU Death Penalty for Rioting

10 March 2009 at 22:28  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Anonymous 19.03 said:

...head over to Claremorris and then follow the Ballyhaunis road. You won't be able to miss the giant blot on the landscape. Looks like a prison stockade...

Invisible on google earth. I know you don't get an indication of the height but; any better directions for viewing from the air? How far along? Travelling east/west? Before the roundabout?

Just looking at Google Earth right now. This image is several years old - not unusual because the image of my village is circa 2001 and not important enough to update. The walled enclave is close to the Centra supermarket. Centra is situated at the end of Dalton Street (see triangular shaped car park). The walled area is between R331, Knock Road (N60) and Ballyhaunis Road. I believe it's the odd shaped area just north of the square field. The factory and houses are fairly recent, built within the last five or 6 years I believe but don't quote me on that. They were definately there in 2005.

Part of the wall follows the main road leading out of Claremorris and there are businesses across the road. It seems I mixed up Knock Road with Ballyhaunis Road. The two run parallel and meet up at the island just before the N60/N17 intersection.

The land was bought, a factory built and then the houses followed. Unfortunately you can only see where it is going to be. But it is there now.

10 March 2009 at 22:59  
Anonymous Coming soon to a DVD Player near you said...

The Obama Deception

10 March 2009 at 23:10  
Blogger DP111 said...


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By Roger Scruton

What it is about our civilization that causes such resentment, and why we must defend it.


11 March 2009 at 00:23  
Blogger Ayrdale said...

Further to mackenzie above, who writes about conspiracy...bunkum Mr Mac.
That is fanciful nonsense.
This isn't though...
"The survival of civilization in something like its present form might depend significantly on the efforts of a single man," declared The New Yorker. The New York Times hailed that man as the "Custodian of the Planet." He is perpetually on the short list of candidates for Secretary General of the United Nations. This lofty eminence? Maurice Strong, (left) of course. Never heard of him? Well, you should have...


11 March 2009 at 01:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like the ideal platform for the anti-Christ!

11 March 2009 at 07:47  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

Conspiracy theories

The left wing politician Tony Benn records in his diary (17 February 1981) that a journalist from the New Statesman, Duncan Campbell, told him that he had received information from an intelligence agent two years previously that Neave had planned to have Benn assassinated if a Labour Government was elected, James Callaghan resigned and there was a possibility that Benn might be elected Party Leader in his place. Campbell claimed that the agent was ready to give his name and the New Statesman was going to print the story. Benn, however, discounted the validity of the story and wrote in his diary: "No one will believe for a moment that Airey Neave would have done such a thing".[7] However the magazine printed the story on 20 February 1981, naming the agent as Lee Tracey. Tracey claimed to have met Neave and was asked to join a team of intelligence and security specialists which would "make sure Benn was stopped". Tracey planned a second meeting with Neave but Neave was killed before they could meet again.[8]

Kevin Cahill, an Irish investigative journalist, claims Neave was on the verge of a massive overhaul of the security services, possibly involving a merger of MI5 and MI6 and arising from his belief in corruption in the security services. Cahill suggests a link between Neave's murder and Sir Richard Sykes' murder and the attempted murder of Christopher Tugendhat in December 1980. Cahill claims that Neave would have been head of the combined security services with Sykes and Tugendhat as his deputies, with Sykes responsible for foreign operations and Tugendhat responsible for home operations.

Cahill claims to have had a conversation with a drunken Neave on St. Patrick's Day 1979 in the foyer of the Irish embassy in London. Cahill had left a party and was waiting for a taxi. He saw Neave in the room and introduced himself to him as an admirer. Cahill claims that Neave was inebriated and responded "quite out of the blue" by saying "There are going to be changes here, big changes, soon. There is going to be cleaning of the stables...There has been serious corruption." Neave then said that there was "no use playing games. We have to win...We will win when the [corruption] is sorted out. Count on that." Cahill found Neave's remarks surprising because he seemed internally preoccupied with the UK, with his Northern Ireland brief "almost a sideline". Cahill also thought that Neave's mention of corruption meant Soviet penetration.

Whilst working in the House of Commons as Paddy Ashdown's research assistant Cahill claims to have had around six conversations with the security staff there. The most frequent remark was that "everyone knew" the story behind Neave's death but that no one could talk about it in detail because it would have been too dangerous. Cahill claims they did not believe INLA murdered Neave but that it was an "inside job".

Cahill concluded that Neave was murdered by the security services; MI6 agents working with the CIA because Neave sought to prosecute senior figures in the intelligence establishment for corruption.[9]

Another person who did not accept the generally accepted version of events was Enoch Powell, the Ulster Unionist MP. Powell claimed in an interview with The Guardian on 9 January 1984 that the Americans had murdered Neave, along with Lord Mountbatten and Robert Bradford MP. He claimed the evidence came from a member of the Royal Ulster Constabulary with whom he had a conversation.[10]

On 18 October 1986 Powell returned to the subject of Neave's death in a speech to Conservative students in Birmingham. He told them that INLA had not killed Neave, but that he had been assassinated by "MI6 and their friends". Powell claimed Neave's Northern Ireland policy had been one of integration with the rest of the UK and that the Americans feared that this process, if implemented by Neave, would have been irreversible. His murder, alleged Powell, was intended to make the British Government adopt a policy more acceptable to America in her aim of a united Ireland within NATO.[11]

11 March 2009 at 10:05  
Anonymous Cockney Rebel said...

EU to introduce death penalty for rioting etc, is it me or do I feel a noose beginning to tighten around our necks? Brown asks the army if they wuld be prepared to fire on Briish citizens, Blair wants to be President of Europe, I.D cards are likely to be compulsory, the world financial system is in meltdown, shadowy figures are killing anyone who threatens to blow the whistle, Sharia law is considered a viable alternative to UK law, Obama is a man from nowhere, a charismatic speaker whose real adenda is shrouded in mystery, does this sound like the end times scenario from Revelations? O.K maybe I am paranoid, but just because you suffer from paranoia it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. Well the good news is that God gets 'em ALL in the end, the bad news is we may have to suffer a lot on the way. Stoke up the fires Lord there's one heck of a big barby on the way & the porkers are fattening nicely.

11 March 2009 at 11:29  
Anonymous iain said...

I believe Robinson and McGuinness fly out today on their trip.

McGuinness riding high on a wave of appreciation from the media and the peace processors for standing shoulder to shoulder with Hugh Orde yesterday condemning the murder of the policeman as carried out by traitors.
Traitors to what?...Ireland, the IRA, him?

McGuinness of course was nowhere to been seen on Sunday morning when the two soldiers were shot down. Those deaths were 'wrong and shouldnt have happened'...but not condemned.

Robinson and his DUP colleagues are shameful. They are so taken by their wee ministerial positions, their wages, expenses and pensions, they'll dare not rock the boat.

That which is mistaken for leadership is simply the fear that their greedy snouts make be taken from the trough if Stormont went tits up.

11 March 2009 at 11:36  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

mckenzie 11 March 2009 10:05 wrote ... Kevin Cahill, an Irish investigative journalist, claims ... Link?

Can you provide the references [7] ... [11]?

Original article?

11 March 2009 at 11:37  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

Not personally Bertie my old sausage, but if you click the blue words 'Conspiracy Theory' it will take you to the Wiki page that it is linked to.

11 March 2009 at 16:05  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

mckenzie 11 March 2009 16:05 wrote ... if you click the blue words ...

Now I see them!

11 March 2009 at 16:17  
Anonymous mckenzie said...

No worries, we live in intense times, and the article in question does indeed have shock value enough to induce feelings of disbelief. The article is of course nothing to do with me, but makes for interesting reading.

11 March 2009 at 16:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need a Souvenir in USA. Small fat green old men as Martin McGuinness. Circus is complete from both sides. ;)

(The Aim for McGuinnesses tre-years old masturbations)

17 March 2009 at 18:15  
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22 March 2009 at 09:24  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, well, well... old lovers between...
Also here You forgot the main point: Behind Obama is Hillary Clinton. Hillary is the lady with her heavy hand on Martin McGuinness butt (pls see it on all officially made pics with them both). A misstress is right to treat her Cupidon on the red carpet. This is only the prelude what there happens behind the scenes. ;)

25 March 2009 at 22:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us face the truth: Martin McGuinness is a holy Nune.

8 April 2009 at 22:23  

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