Saturday, June 13, 2009

Is Nick Griffin MEP worse than Gerry Adams MP?


Look here, upon this picture, and on this,
The counterfeit presentment of two brothers.

While Harriet Harman blackmails the Conservative Party into supporting her odious Equality Bill on the grounds that it will render the constitution of the BNP illegal, Cranmer is disturbed to read the wording of two EDMs quite obviously aimed solely and specifically at newly-elected MEPs Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons.

Whatever one may think of them personally or their political views, both are members of a (presently) legally-constituted political party and their election to office was free and fair. It has been convention for decades that those who are elected to the European Parliament are entitled to high security passes to the Houses of Parliament.

But Labour’s John Mann MP, who chairs the All-Party Parliamentary Group against Antisemitism, has decided that this is no longer acceptable, and so produced an EDM to withdraw such passes. He has been joined by his honourable friends Andrew Dismore, Andrew Gwynne, Desmond Turner, Jon Cruddas, John Grogan, Kelvin Hopkins, Lynne Jones and Mike Hancock.

Curiously, there is a second EDM making essentially the same demand, initiated by John McDonnell and signed by Kelvin Hopkins, David Taylor, Alan Simpson, Neil Gerrard, Mike Wood, Jeremy Corbyn, David Drew, Katy Clark and Linda Riordan, Lynne Jones, Andrew Dismore, Mike Hancock and Stephen Williams.

John Mann has obviously decided not to endorse the competition. You would think, after 12 years in government, that they might have learned to coordinate their efforts.

But Cranmer is disturbed by this crass attempt to limit democratically-elected members of the BNP from the Palace of Westminster. Have they planted bombs? Have they murdered members of the police or the armed forces? Have they attempted to assassinate the Prime Minister, members of the Government or members of the Royal Family? Have they stabbed people in the heart, gouged out their eyes or shot them in the kneecaps? Have they smuggled guns and mortars, or formed and maintained an illegal army, involved themselves in acts of terrorism or threatened the very foundations of the British State?

Quite why the signatories to these EDMs are more concerned by the presence of Nick Griffin in Parliament than they are by the unrepentant terrorist Gerry Adams is utterly bemusing. Of course, Mssrs Adams and McGuinness were elected to the House of Commons, but they have barred themselves from it by refusing to swear allegiance to the Crown. Indeed, they sustain an unashamed antipathy towards British institutions and to the Constitution. This ought to be sufficient to bar them from Parliament, yet not only have they been granted security passes, they are able to claim millions of pounds from the taxpayer to run their offices. This arrangement has always been opposed by the Conservatives and Unionists.

As repugnant as the majority may find the views espoused by the BNP, Mssrs Griffin and Brons were elected to public office with the assent of almost a million people and ought therefore to be free to enjoy the access to Parliament granted by convention to other MEPs. They hold views which they are entitled to hold, and seek to propagate policies which run counter to the prevailing political orthodoxy. They are not the first to do so, and they will certainly not be the last. But if one conspires to silence them in order to limit their exposure and hinder their message, one begins to persecute and martyr them in exactly the same fashion as Margaret Thatcher attempted to mute members of Sinn Féin/IRA in order to deprive them of ‘the oxygen of publicity’.

It may have taken 20 years, but they ended up in government. They presently have five MPs, two MEPs and 27 MLAs - all able to come and go exactly as they please.

71 Comments:

Anonymous McKenzie said...

I can't add or detract a single word from that.

13 June 2009 at 10:06  
Anonymous Maturecheese said...

Seconded. Indeed another Gem, your Grace.

The sheer hypocrisy of the political classes is sickening. We are in dark times.

13 June 2009 at 10:11  
Anonymous oiznop said...

Your Grace,

Glenda Jackson has also added her name to both EDMs.

13 June 2009 at 10:16  
Anonymous Anabaptist said...

The real problem is that 'racism' must be seen as a greater crime than any other. That is the sine qua non of the modern liberal mind. Adams and McGuiness are free of that taint, so therefore their characters are almost stainless. A little old lady who votes BNP because she doesn't understand and doesn't like what is happening to the locality she grew up in is as guilty as Hitler (the worst of all dictators and mass murderers because he was motivated by 'racism'.)

13 June 2009 at 10:28  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Maybe it's because the BNP poses the perceived threat of stealing seats from sitting MPs come the next general election. This is probably because, racist angle aside, they are saying things that actually make sense which is more than I can say for the Big Two And A Half.

To be frank, it's difficult to decide which side are the bigger fascists.

Sack the lot of 'em and start again from scratch.

13 June 2009 at 10:38  
Blogger Roger Pearse said...

Well said.

If Adolf Hitler himself was running the BNP -- and remember, all this "Nazi! Nazi!" talk is just the hate-speech of their enemies -- we would be in no danger. The BNP is insignificant and powerless; so much so, that the establishment can arrange to have their leader roughed up outside Parliament without a single copper raising an eyebrow. Spies at their meetings, EDM's to deny elected representatives access to the Commons, thugs being given access to the courts to sue for "injuries" sustained while trying to attack Nick Griffin, on the basis that the PC judges won't give Griffin justice. The Times gives the SA, sorry, I meant the "anti-Nazi" thugs an article to expound on how the BNP should be assaulted whenever they appear in public... wow. What a state we're in. What price human rights, when this sort of thing can go on? Doesn't it show up the "human rights" racket for what it is -- a scam? What price political debate, when the people vote for a legal political party, and are told they must not and their voice won't be heard.

It isn't the BNP that is being attacked; it is all of us. "Dare to vote against the establishment, and just see what we'll do!"

As for "equality" bills, Ezra Levant was good on this kind of Newspeak yesterday(here) in an interview:

BC: You had two tactics in fighting back: “1. Denormalize the commissions; and 2. Press legislators to act.” What do you mean by denormalize? And could conservatives make more use of your methods as a means of combating PC orthodoxy?

Ezra Levant: I think most debates are won or lost before they’ve even begun. That’s because one side manages to define the terms of the debate and even the vocabulary. Take the very name “human rights commission.” How could you possibly argue against something so saintly? And me? I was accused of “hate speech.” Who could possibly support me?

Time to turn that around. (...)
We are so conditioned to using the language that the other side invents for us that we often don’t even realize it. I think the key is to be accurate, but to choose the accurate word that is the most helpful. For example, I call myself a “human rights activist” now because I think it’s accurate. I try not to call the law the “hate speech law”; I try to remember to call it the “censorship law.” It’s not rocket science — although there are some people, like Frank Luntz, who have built it into a science or an art.

13 June 2009 at 11:12  
Anonymous Puritan Preacher said...

Your Grace,

I would respectfully suggest that it is all to do with Power and the struggle for Supremacy.

Irish republicans had military might and did a lot of damage for decades so the establishment was faced with a war it could not win and was ultimately forced into a deal.

So why is the fledgeling BNP seen as such a threat? Their racial policy appears indefensible so why are politicians afraid to engage them in debate? Could it be that their own creeping totalitarianism and stupidities like open borders, consequent illegal immigration, invasion of economic migrants etc. might be continually exposed. Perhaps they have no convincing answer to the concept of a White ethnic minority in our multicultural paradise; a minority which has rights to be defended like all the others. A minority with more moral right than one which - for the sake of argument - was to indulge in unsocial activities like bombing underground trains and blowing up buses.

13 June 2009 at 11:16  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

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13 June 2009 at 11:43  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

The Establishment, in all its guises, is organizing against the BNP. The following extracts are from a news release by the National Union of Journalists. There will be speakers from the BBC, Channel 4, and the NUJ Black Members’ Council. Note the reference to ‘quality journalism’.

The BNP's election victories have brought a new urgency to questions about how journalists should report fascists and racists. There is a danger that racist ideas that ten years ago would have been considered unacceptable could become part of the daily business of politics.
Media workers are confronted with new dilemmas. How should broadcasters handle the requirement for balance whilst not promoting racist and fascist views? How do we best show the threat the BNP pose to media freedom? How should we organise in the workplace to defend equal rights for our members and quality journalism? How should we react to BNP threats to journalists who expose their real views about equality, race and freedom of speech? How do members in PR deal with racist councillors?

13 June 2009 at 11:47  
Blogger ooberLib said...

I am not really a cruel man, and I don't, in general, like blood sports, but there is something deeply satisfying about letting a pack of Jack Russel Terriors lose in a rat's nest.

I am enjoying the show.

13 June 2009 at 12:03  
Anonymous McKenzie said...

There is a tragic article in the Mail today about a white couple who had IVF treatment so they could have kids. There was a mix up at the clinic and they ended up having a black son. The tragedy is not that my perception of this being as a BNP member, which would be interpreted as me being horrified at the fact, but that the couple themselves seem to be ashamed of their son.

You will have to read the article HERE for yourself and decide what your own interpretation is, but it does seem to me that they are embarrassed and ashamed.

This is where things get mixed up and confusing for me. As far as I am concerned there is absolutely nothing, no problem , no issue what so ever about being black (or any colour for this matter). A lot of government forms these days ask for ethnicity information. What is the problem? This is where I slightly disagree about being British. The British nationality is not an exclusive thing, but rather it is possible to be British and be from another ethnic group other than the traditional white.

There are nutters who will say that mixed race relationships, and families is wrong. This to me is bullshit, because where do you draw the line, DNA testing?. I can't accept this myself. But I will still remain angry and bitter about the present attempt to wash out the traditional British culture from this nation. Until this stops, then it has to be BNP membership for me.

There is a funny piece in the Sun today by that tosser John Gaunt (love the cartoon though):

"You can be Right-wing, back the free market and want to quit Europe without being a racist. You can believe only people who have paid into our pot should be able to take out without donning a white hood.


You can believe in capital punishment without becoming a member of a lynch mob. You can want to get rid of political correctness without calling people Pakis.


You can want to protect British industry without hating Johnny Foreigner. You can believe people should fit in or ship out without denying their rights and culture. And you can wrap yourself in our flag and be proud of our history and successes."

SO DO PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US JOHN, WHO IS IT THAT IS SAYING THEY WILL DO THESE THINGS?

13 June 2009 at 12:38  
OpenID RobertEve said...

Sinn Fein/IRA are much worse than the BNP.

13 June 2009 at 12:42  
Anonymous the recusant said...

Whilst it is amusing to draw imaginary comparrisons between Nick Griffin and Gerry Adams, His Grace could have taken this opportunity to highlight the real links between the BNP and Northern Irelands Loyalist terrorists.
Senior BNP official Mark Collet praised the anti-Catholic Loyalist killer Johnny'Mad Dog' Adiar on a Channel 4 documentary and Jim Dowson, a key aide to Nick Griffin and former Orangeman, featured on a tape of flute band music supporting Loyalist murderer Michael Stone. Dowson who portrays himself as a staunch Christian even claims to be preacher in his own church, who'da thunk it, just like another famous pistol waiving NI ‘Bob Jones’ graduate.
The sympathies of the BNP are ideologically and politically in union with the Unionists not the Nationalists, and while neither is comprised of particularly savoury characters, let’s try not mix our green apples and oranges.

13 June 2009 at 12:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

recusant.

Respecting what you have said, but the BNP = British National Party.

13 June 2009 at 13:09  
Anonymous shane said...

Actually you would surprised at the degrees of congruity between the IRA and the loyalist paramilitaries. Both are hard-left, both hate the police, and both have a lot of members in receipt of lavish public funding and government granted authority in their role as 'community leaders'.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7638598.stm

"Fuel smuggling and diesel laundering is proving so lucrative in Northern Ireland that traditional enemies are working together to make money.

Loyalists and republicans are setting aside their political differences for a common aim - financial profit.

...."

13 June 2009 at 13:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a danger here Your Grace that the debate could turn into one about whether Northern Ireland should be given over to the Republic, based upon Nationalism being some kind of ideology.

Plaid Cymru, or 'Plaid' as they like to be known as these days (Cymru means Wales, which is what they have dropped), has not managed to produce a single MEP, much to their embarrassment. It is of no surprise to me, but the point is that the BNP is standing in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland because they are all British people that need represemnting.

13 June 2009 at 13:20  
Anonymous Penny said...

Oh dear...Harriet Harperson. I sometimes wonder if her 'equality' mantra leans more towards a view of a nation without any differences whatsoever. Worrying.

Before you know it we'll have whoever the Home Office Sec. is this week, managing to invoke anti-terrorist laws against the BNP, too.

I don't think the majority who voted BNP are rabid racists (although having stood next to and overheared candidates at the count, they certainly were!). I think most were people who despair of the Government taking any notice of their concerns regarding the EU, immigration and a nation mired down by laws which appear to reduce their civil liberties and who feel suppressed by over-zealous political correctness.

It seems to me that rather than attempt to impose these 'limits' on democratically elected people, the Government could bang them to rights in the most civilised manner - by openly acknowledging and addressing the concerns that created the BNP voters in the first place.

The Government will also need to explain quite why they allow organisations like the Hizb ut-Tahrir, banned in many countries, and whose agenda is far from pro-British, yet attempt to impose restrictions on the BNP.

Attempting to confoud the BNP in this manner is bound to create an Orwellian-like suspicion which in turn will make them more attractive.

13 June 2009 at 13:37  
Anonymous Marcellus said...

Labourism

13 June 2009 at 13:58  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

It's fairly typical of politicians in a hole to carry on digging.

All this will achieve is the opposite effect....it will increase resentment among the electorate and hence increase support for the BNP.

I don't see anyone in the Labour party learning anything from the recent election. Genuine concerns about mass immigration et al are brushed aside as of no consequence. I'm expecting to see a new advertising campaign any day now extolling the virtues of unlimited immigration....to "educate" the public, and to show them the error of their ways.

It's ironic because all Labour has to do is to address these concerns....shut the borders etc., and then support for the BNP would wither.

But these guys have principles. Rather than sacrifice their multicultural ideals they'd much prefer to lose the next election.

In a way this is odd because come the Islamic state, they'll all be the first on the chopping block.

13 June 2009 at 14:25  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

Harriet Harmthem is to bring a bill into Parliamnt because the BNP only allow Indigenous British People into its organisation
Does that mean that these organisations are to be outlawed too.
The really amzing thing is that many people have been so brainwashed by our Eugenicist elites, they are more likely to attack me for posting it than realising the point that the list makes.
So contra to their Brainwashing is the list that Some have even deleted the list from their blogs because they said it was racist.



The Black Police association
Black people's mental health association
Black and Asian therapists online
National BME mental health network
Federation of Black housing organizations
The Black Londoners forum
Positive action in Housing
Asianfaces.co.uk,Asian modelling service
Society of Black lawyers,London
Society of Asian lawyers,London
BlackLawyersDirectory.com
asianjobsite.co.uk
BlackandAsiangrad.ac.uk
Ethnic media Group
Al-Nisa Muslim Women’s Group
Al-Nur Muslim Women’s Association
Antrim Chinese Community Association
Barnardos Chinese Lay Health Project
Chinese Welfare Association
The Windsor Fellowship
Sponsors for Educational opportunity,(SEO)London
BlackBritain.co.uk
EthnicBritain.co.uk
emjobsite.co.uk
Link Net Mentoring
Suga fix media arts
Sussex Black police Association
The National Black Writers and Artist Association
Black students Association
UK Black teachers Association
Black UK online
Ashiana Housing Association Ltd.
UK Asian business directory
Asian People's Disability alliance
Asian arts agency
Black Enterprise awards
BlackEngineer.com
AIM magazine
Natwest Bank (Asian Entrepreneurs Unit)
Asian Voice
Black womens rape action Project,BWRAP,London
The Drum,African,asian arts venue,Birmingham
Black training and enterprise group
UK Black Pride
Ethnic Minority Foundation,London
Oshwal Elderly Welfare Association,Surrey
Ethnic Minority and Black Regional Action for Community Empowerment (EMBRACE),Birmingham
MENTER,Regional network for Black / Minority Ethnic (BME) voluntary organisations
Black and Minority Ethnic Elders Group,Scotland
Latin American elderly project,London
Latin American golden years day centre
Naz project London,Sexual health & AIDS prevention(NPL)
The Black Fundraisers Network,London
Black Arts Alliance,Manchester
Southall Black sisters,Middlesex
Black student union
Dudley Black regeneration council
Black Professional events,events planners
Black Health Agency,Manchester
National Association for the advancement of Black people,
African Caribbean Development agency (ACDA)
African caribbean education and training services (ACETS)
Amaani Tallawah mental health support services,Nottingham
APNA arts,Nottingham
Asian day centre,Nottingham
Broxtowe African Caribbean Elders group
BUILD Nottingham Mentor project
Calabash supplementory school
Afrik-African International Network,Nottingham
Asian mens group
Somerset Black development agency (SBDA)
Black families education support group,Bath & somerset

13 June 2009 at 15:30  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

Harriet Harmthem is to bring a bill into Parliamnt because the BNP only allow Indigenous British People into its organisation
Does that mean that these organisations are to be outlawed too.
The really amzing thing is that many people have been so brainwashed by our Eugenicist elites, they are more likely to attack me for posting it than realising the point that the list makes.
So contra to their Brainwashing is the list that Some have even deleted the list from their blogs because they said it was racist.



The Black Police association
Black people's mental health association
Black and Asian therapists online
National BME mental health network
Federation of Black housing organizations
The Black Londoners forum
Positive action in Housing
Asianfaces.co.uk,Asian modelling service
Society of Black lawyers,London
Society of Asian lawyers,London
BlackLawyersDirectory.com
asianjobsite.co.uk
BlackandAsiangrad.ac.uk
Ethnic media Group
Al-Nisa Muslim Women’s Group
Al-Nur Muslim Women’s Association
Antrim Chinese Community Association
Barnardos Chinese Lay Health Project
Chinese Welfare Association
The Windsor Fellowship
Sponsors for Educational opportunity,(SEO)London
BlackBritain.co.uk
EthnicBritain.co.uk
emjobsite.co.uk
Link Net Mentoring
Suga fix media arts
Sussex Black police Association
The National Black Writers and Artist Association
Black students Association
UK Black teachers Association
Black UK online
Ashiana Housing Association Ltd.
UK Asian business directory
Asian People's Disability alliance
Asian arts agency
Black Enterprise awards
BlackEngineer.com
AIM magazine
Natwest Bank (Asian Entrepreneurs Unit)
Asian Voice
Black womens rape action Project,BWRAP,London
The Drum,African,asian arts venue,Birmingham
Black training and enterprise group
UK Black Pride
Ethnic Minority Foundation,London
Oshwal Elderly Welfare Association,Surrey
Ethnic Minority and Black Regional Action for Community Empowerment (EMBRACE),Birmingham
MENTER,Regional network for Black / Minority Ethnic (BME) voluntary organisations
Black and Minority Ethnic Elders Group,Scotland
Latin American elderly project,London
Latin American golden years day centre
Naz project London,Sexual health & AIDS prevention(NPL)
The Black Fundraisers Network,London
Black Arts Alliance,Manchester
Southall Black sisters,Middlesex
Black student union
Dudley Black regeneration council
Black Professional events,events planners
Black Health Agency,Manchester
National Association for the advancement of Black people,
African Caribbean Development agency (ACDA)
African caribbean education and training services (ACETS)
Amaani Tallawah mental health support services,Nottingham
APNA arts,Nottingham
Asian day centre,Nottingham
Broxtowe African Caribbean Elders group
BUILD Nottingham Mentor project
Calabash supplementory school
Afrik-African International Network,Nottingham
Asian mens group
Somerset Black development agency (SBDA)
Black families education support group,Bath & somerset

13 June 2009 at 15:36  
Blogger Young Mr. Brown said...

I suppose that I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it would be nice if Mr. Cameron makes it clear that one of the first acts of an incoming Conservative administration will be to repeal this proposed Equality Bill.

13 June 2009 at 16:21  
Anonymous Penny said...

"I don't see anyone in the Labour party learning anything from the recent election"

If Question Time is anything to go by, I'd say you're absolutely correct.

The politicians appeared to believe the factor driving those who voted BNP/UKIP/Other Small Parties was the expenses scandal.

Not a single person I know believes that the BNP's manifesto revolves around the manner in which tax-payers money has funded MP's expenses (of the duck house type). Yes, the BNP latched onto this issue but it's hardly their reason d'etre is it?

So according to Question Time, 'expenses' is the sum total of all we have to fear from fascism in the UK.

13 June 2009 at 16:29  
Anonymous McKenzie said...

As they say in Ireland

BUGGER OFF
BUGGER OFF
BUGGER OFF

13 June 2009 at 16:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Young Mr. Brown,

I think you -- and quite possibly Arch. Cramner -- will be terribly disappointed by Cameron. He is no more a conservative than Blair or bRown. And he only appears to be a knight in shining armour now, because the Labour-ites are so tarnished by scandal. Cameron is simply another left-leaning liberal masquerading as a Tory, as his past comments have revealed and, if he is elected, his government programme will quickly demonstrate.

13 June 2009 at 16:33  
Blogger St Bruno said...

Could it be that the fine upstanding MPs are dancing to the tune of their paymasters, no, not Israel and the Jewish, but the other mob who profess to Islam and whose threats and bombs are taken seriously by the BNP and other realists in Europe.

13 June 2009 at 16:34  
Anonymous Irish Pete said...

A trip down memory lane.

British Soldiers...

13 June 2009 at 16:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference is that the BNP had the temerity to take Labour votes and humiliate the Government.

Gerry Adams didn't.

We can't have the BNP damaging Gordon's credibility.

13 June 2009 at 17:16  
Anonymous Maturecheese said...

Penny

I watched that question time too and when that reason,Mass immigration and the EU, was suggested Peter Hain sat there shaking his head. What a ******.

Give us a referendum on the EU, remove the one million illegals, bring in proper border controls ,start dealing properly with violent crime(including deporting foreign criminals) and restore many of our rights (free speech for example)and the BNP will cease to exist as their agenda will have been taken from them.

13 June 2009 at 17:28  
Anonymous Maturecheese said...

Before I get slated on the 'remove the one million illegals' I am aware of the connotations,(resettlement of the Jews) so please don't go there. I don't know how it could be done without upset or pain but the fact is they shouldn't be here and they knew it when they came. If anyone is to blame for their plight it is this excuse for a government we have had for the last decade or more

13 June 2009 at 17:43  
Anonymous Voyager said...

It would be interesting to see if the European Court of Justice would accept an MEP be discriminated against by a subsidiary Chamber. It might also be difficult to bar Geert Wilders MEP from the United Kingdom should he decide to avail himself of the European Court of Justice...which is under the Lisbon Treaty the Supreme Court of Judicature interpreting said Treaty/Constitution.


John Mann in his schooldays at a certain Northern Grammar School was noted for his headbanging ignorance of fact over blind prejudice and his somewhat bigoted approach to matters; it would be unfortunate if he triggers a slapdown for the Local Assembly in Westminster from the Supreme Authority in Brussels thus exposing the very argument BNP/UKIP Voters have so clearly demonstrated at the ballot box.


As an aside. in leeds today a rally was taking place from the SWP-UAF hoodlum grouping and a hefty police presence was evident. However not 3 metres from a police car and attendant officers two women were making KKK outfits from sheets to wear. Surely wearing such outfits in public is illegal under the Public Order Act 1986....but the police seemed oblivious to Ku Klux Klan symbolism in the centre of Leeds...

13 June 2009 at 18:22  
Anonymous not a machine said...

An excellent post your grace on democratic hypocracy , could not disagree with one word of it .

13 June 2009 at 18:26  
Anonymous Katy said...

In comparison with the 2004 EU elections, Labour lost 1.3 million votes. The BNP only gained 135 thousand more votes. I can't remember who it was who first said that the Allies didn't win the Second World War, it was just that Germany lost, but let's be clear here, this has been a bizarre reversal of that event; the BNP didn't win, Labour lost. Labour must, somewhere very deep down, be feeling guilty. This is just deferred guilt.

13 June 2009 at 18:56  
Blogger Laban said...

You might also remind your readers that a Labour MP (who at one stage was a Cabinet minister) claimed for years to know the identities of the Birmingham pub bombers but deliberately withheld the information. He's still keeping his mouth shut to this day.

Chris Mullin. As I wrote a few years back :

"Six months before the Birmingham outrage the Dublin and Monaghan bombings killed 34 people. As in Birmingham, the bombers have not been found.

Imagine a young Telegraph reporter concealing the names of the bombers for reasons of 'journalistic confidentiality', then becoming a Tory MP and a Minister ?

I can't either."

13 June 2009 at 19:21  
Anonymous Pat said...

It occurs to mr to wonder what exactly sinn fein's constitution is like.
In any case I''m sure the BNP will manage to re-jig it's costitution to get round the new law, if it is passed- accepting anyone of whatever race who's grandparents were born in Britain should do the trick for example if the law is bases entirely on racism- and the fact of BNPs proposed policies would presumably keep most men of colour out whatever the rules say.
Our present rulers seem to think that they can order the world to their liking simply by passing a law.

13 June 2009 at 19:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see Jeremy Corbyn signed the EDM. I seem to recall him being a good friend to Gerry Adams and co when the IRA were bombing the hell out of Northern Ireland.

13 June 2009 at 19:24  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats the difference between 'Brits Out' and 'Immigrants Out'...
or the "n-word" one!

13 June 2009 at 19:27  
Blogger Arden Forester said...

There's one simple word for it all. That word is HUMBUG!

13 June 2009 at 19:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't Har-whatever-it-is do well to enforce a law forbidding use of words related to and including 'racism,' 'fascism' and 'hatred'?

That way people would have to think about what they want to say, before they say it. Or at least to define any replacement buzzes.

13 June 2009 at 20:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the IRA gave up their weapons in NI what happened to the ones used on the mainland. They bombed Canary Warf prior to the banks exploding it.
Harriot should ask herself are they 'gone away you know'. The answer is they'll be back when all else fails, as it will. This time we have taken down our defenses.

13 June 2009 at 21:57  
OpenID jamestheless said...

Has Your Grace seen the excellent article by Max Hastings in the Daily Mail?

Immigration and this insidious conspiracy of silence

13 June 2009 at 22:27  
Blogger ooberLib said...

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Jesus Wants The UK to Stay Christian

13 June 2009 at 23:08  
Blogger ooberLib said...

Jesus does not want the Church to be half full of self righteous pious people pointing scorn at sinners, NO, He wants the Church to be FULL of sinners repenting!

13 June 2009 at 23:37  
Blogger Andrew said...

Firstly your Grace, I came across this site purely by chance. As soon as I saw The leader of the BNP on your blog I nearly, in haste, dismissed you as a bigot.

Your missives are spot on. Such respect would make me consider going to church once more. If only your peers are like you.

BNP took 6.5% of the votes. Thats not a lot but if I am right, Labour *only* took three times that. This is after such a sustained barrage of propaganda that would make Joseph Goebels blush. Can you smell the fear?

Interesting times ahead.

13 June 2009 at 23:57  
Anonymous GTGTWG said...

@ Jamestheless: I've just read the link you posted. I thought I was reading an article penned by the BNP themselves. Funny how Max Hastings and the Daily Mail don't endure names such as racist, fascist, bigot but the BNP do? Hastings has said nothing new in this article. In fact, he could have penned it from the BNP’s literature.

Nothing annoys me more than the pot calling the kettle black A#$%! Westminster are running around with high handed opinions about all and sundry when they are nothing but a bunch of criminals. They’re running scared. All this equalities gibberish is a ploy to take attention away from their own dirty dealings such as robbing the public purse, selling off Britain’s resources, off-shore jobs, and other odious conspiracies like using bully boy tactics such as the UAF; and let’s not forget that UKIP are bought and paid for by Nu-Labour. Then there is the ‘cash for honours’ scandal, the illegal war, the Saudi jet controversy, Israel, we can go on, and on, and on. Who exactly are the bad boys? And for the sake of political correctness, best mention the token females in politics…who are the bad girls?

14 June 2009 at 03:28  
Blogger Alwyn ap Huw said...

Anonymous said... Plaid Cymru, or 'Plaid' as they like to be known as these days (Cymru means Wales, which is what they have dropped), has not managed to produce a single MEP, much to their embarrassment.
13 June 2009 13:20


Got your facts wrong there bach. Jill Evans MEP was elected for and appeared on the ballot paper in the name of Plaid Cymru

14 June 2009 at 04:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whole thing is quite nauseating - and that includes my reaction to the apathy of the British.

I'm beginning to agree with people who ask: "Where is Guy Fawkes when you need him?"

14 June 2009 at 06:19  
Blogger Bert Rustle said...

BBC Radio 4 Any Answers http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00kwfbb/Any_Answers_13_06_2009

The whole program was denoted to the BNP, even though many other topics were discussed in Any Questions http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00kvt8c.

At the end a Dr Gilmore argues that the BNP have been successful in FPTP elections, contradicting earlier assertions that the BNP would not have been successful in such elections.

This article has been discussed by Simon Darby at http://simondarby.blogspot.com/2009/06/act-in-haste-repent-at-leisure.html

14 June 2009 at 06:57  
Blogger Johnny Norfolk said...

This is why the BNP are gaing support. If it was not for PR to the Euro parliament they would never have gotin.

14 June 2009 at 08:23  
Anonymous Voyager said...

EDMs are a waste of time. Grafitti on the walls of legislative timetables

14 June 2009 at 09:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It isn't the BNP that is being attacked; it is all of us. "Dare to vote against the establishment, and just see what we'll do!"

Good point well taken, however.

IMO conspiracy is how things have long since been done. Classical historians took this statement as read. Only modern historical events have been presented as a series of unconnected accidents and bad decisions. Like for Example. Hitlers invasion of The USSR, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and 2008.

I ask you to consider. What is, and what is not, a tool of the establishment?

I contend that all politically inspired groups either are effective tools of the establishment, or they are Completely ignored by the establishment. Like for example the general common sense of the ordinary people is ALWAYS ignored when not being effectively marginalized or divided into powerlessness.

The BNP are not being ignored. They are getting all of the publicity they wish, because of the utterly pathetic efforts the BBC makes at ignoring them.

Yes, we can now I hope see that The Conservative, Labour and Lib/Dems party's are simply establishment front men. However is it not strange that the ultimate effects of what are seen as anti-establishment forces such as Bob Crow, Arthur Scargil, Nick Griffin, Bin-Larden, Adolf Hitler etc. Only serve to help and assist the interests of the establishment.

Events are either conspired to happen, or the BBC/Media simply twist these events towards the same end. That which can not so easily be completely taken over or instigated, is simply subverted and/or corrupted.

Even if there was not already Everest sized mountains of documented evidence for the existence of a long term Fascist/Communist type conclusion for planet earth. The best evidence for same is clearly visible with our own eyes.

I would like you all to consider this next proposition, at least possible, even if at first it may seem highly improbable or indeed impossible.

World Internationalist Communism is an invention of The People who own and Control The Worlds Entire Banking System. Which I regret to say is very largely The BRITISH establishment. Not The American one ( which is in reality the British establishment with a altered dialect ). And most certainly not The Chinese, Islamic or Russian establishments. Which don't really exist independently as such anyway.

I contend that this MUST be the case.

This because there is no other logical explanation that could possibly even half well explain the events of the last 100 or so years.

Well OK there is just one.

That the world is in a perpetual state of uncontrolled and uncontrollable chaos, ruled by anarchy and totally incompetent idiots like Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Brown,. Also that the apparent and continual existence of mankind, must FORCE us to conclude that we are just Glorified Monkey's and the luckiest entities in The Cosmos.

I contend we are not anywhere near that lucky. Our saving grace is that as a whole we are in reality rather dim. Therefore are enslaved without being capable of knowing or accepting that we are. Just captured creatures in a nature and science reserve/FARM, serving cruel and sometimes merciful masters we will never know or meet.

This force did not start with The industrial revolution. Neither did it start along with The Roman Empire. This force has been around for a whole lot longer then that, and is commonly known as the source of all that is truly EVIL.

It is impossible for good men to do SOMETHING to resist the forces of EVIL. If these good men no longer can identify EVIL when it in staring them full square in the face.

ATLAS SHRUGGED

14 June 2009 at 13:13  
Anonymous mouse-ity is better said...

Atlas Shrugged - I couldn't agree more than with your conclusion!

I read recently that the ability to distinguish good from evil is an essential component of a sense of humour. The British have long prided themselves on the latter - but perhaps we're losing it along with the rest of our culture.

Otherwise, I've met many people who think that this life, this world, is Hell - literally. I often think they may be right; or that, at best, it is at the Gate of Hell. Now I'm wondering if, the closer we get to the fire, the more fried our brains get!!! On the other hand - here's hoping the heat gets so unbearable we start to move away, BUT FAST.

And that means from the euSSR, as well.

14 June 2009 at 14:38  
Blogger Dave H said...

I hear with utter disbelief that Harriet Harman, with her numerous job titles and responsibilities, is boasting that her new 'equalities' Bill will be a useful weapon against the BNP.

This is a Bill that proposes making racial discrimination perfectly legal, provided it is only directed against whites.

For example, if there were more than one applicant for a job, you may legally reject a candidate for no other reason than they are white.

And that moonbat thinks this will hurt the BNP...

14 June 2009 at 14:39  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

There are only two parties really, One Nationalist Party and all the others who are in the pay, one way or another of the One World Globalists who use Psychological Repression to steer the masses into their own oblivion.

It's quite impressive to watch.

14 June 2009 at 18:40  
Anonymous len said...

The men and women running our government today are the men and women taught evolutionary theory in the 1960`s.
We are now reaping the seeds of that in a fragmented,disintegrating immoral, society.
Evolutionary theory has to a large extent shaped the society we live in.

14 June 2009 at 18:43  
Anonymous permex said...

I am enormously pleased at the small success the BNP has achieved. My god, a couple of Euroseats & the sky has started to fall in among the ruling elite & the blogosphere is in the tizzie of its lifetime...great!
Those who cry 'Nazi' have already lost the argument (an epithet more suited to the UAF sponsored by, among others, dear David Cameron...god help us all.)
I do not agree with everything the BNP stands for but they address the genuine concerns of the downtrodden indigenes...and the current mendacious, thieving & dictatorial elite had better concentrate their puny minds and get their act together.
His Grace might consider establishing 'The White Clerics Association' just for the fun of watching the backlash.

14 June 2009 at 18:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the Big Questions show this morning Benjamin Obadiah Iqbal Zephaniah said that he thinks the Queen should appologise for the slave trade. I agree with this, somebody should appologise for the sorry state of affairs. If they had left them poor Africans where they found them then we would not be up to our ears in it now would we. What exactly were they thinking?

14 June 2009 at 22:00  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to popular scientific theory, if we go back in time then we cannot make any changes....that's reassuring anyway, I just wish someone would hurry up and invent the dam things.

14 June 2009 at 22:04  
Blogger ooberLib said...

BNP voters come in two flavours: Scum and Idiots.

14 June 2009 at 23:31  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Len @ 18:43, 14/6: I always appreciate your quotations from Scripture, and I usually agree with you.

I diverge slightly here, however. Firstly, I think many of the shower you refer were not at secondary school or university in the sixties; secondly, I think you conflate - anachronistically - two academies: British Science and french filosofy.

I studied evolution in the early 60s - it did not replace a general, classical, curriculum that included Geography, Maths, History, Language(s), Literature, and Religious Knowledge, but it was part of A Level courses in Botany and Zoology. Having studied the differences between ‘hypothesis,' ‘theory,' and (scientific) ‘law,' we could view Darwin's theory in light of classification; observe its relevance to ‘phylum,' genus,' or ‘species'; and consider evidence for its application in statements such as "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny." A copy of "Origins" resided in the lab library, so specialist students could see for themselves what Darwin actually said; and all students remained free to inter-relate facts they learned in any discipline. Personally, I always viewed some ancient Scripture as symbolism.

As far as I know, the mandate to view ‘Theory' as ‘Fact' took root later, and escalated in parallel with the political process in which the euSSR got its hooks into our government, education, and the corruption and disabling of British minds. Critical Theory is mostly marxist, and its roots are franco-german.

The deconstructionism of Lacan and other freudianist sickos certainly erupted in 60s france. By the 90s, my young Korean professor in the US taught that their doctrine had taken the 60s world by storm - but all I had previously heard was that the french were ‘a bit strange, and not very nice.' Certainly they were a bit Communist.

I believe the marxist tentacles had been put out long before - mind. It's interesting to read Conrad's "The Good Terrorist" (1907) in that light; and also Margery Allingham's "The Gyrth Chalice" (?1930's) - to say nothing of Huxley and Orwell, who I assume listened to the Fabianists at play.

So if the deconstructionists of the euSSR appropriate evolution to their own ends of cultural invasion and domination - they are consistent in doing that with the rest of our culture. My point here is that I blame the communists and euros - not a great British scientist and genius who can't defend himself.

Not that I'm chuffed that Britons are lying down and taking it all, right now..

15 June 2009 at 01:28  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Sinn Fein has one MEP.
In the Republic they lost the seat they had in Dublin.
A north-south divide indeed!

15 June 2009 at 05:40  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Sometimes I wonder if the Anglo-American victory over the German Reich was unwelcome for Marxists - especially Frankfurt School Marxists like Marcuse who fled to the USA and sat out the War.

Perhaps they had hoped like the USSR that the Capitalist Powers would be sucked into the vortex with German collapse leaving an exhausted landscape to fall into Soviet hands ?

The whole focus of building Guilt into Anglo-American societies post-war reaching its crescendo in the 1960s just as expansion of Universities to produce technical graduates to wage Cold War research was perverted into expansion of Liberal Arts faculties desirous of "scientific" content adopted Marxist structure and analysis.

Perhaps the VE-Day celebrated in 1945 was not exactly the type of victory Marcuse and his ilke had wanted, and subversion was the response to weaken the victors ?

15 June 2009 at 05:41  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Voyager - oh yes, I think so too.

The Frankfurt guys had a willing audience in German-, Irish-, and probably Italian-Americans, I'll be bound. And thus fertile ground for the doctrine that everything German and scientific was better than anything Anglo... etc. etc.
Your mention of the 'guilt' complex is new to me - but I see clearly that it happened.

Yes, I do believe we deal with conspiracy 'fact' rather than 'theory'!

I think something also went on over the ending of WWII - especially the Russian element, and whatever the allies agreed to. I seem to remember Churchill once said something to the effect that after he had gone (died) - we wouldn't stand a chance against them all. Thence to the Treaty of Rome and the mess we have now.

Anyway, my old Dad always said we'd lost - not won. That's why he emigrated.

15 June 2009 at 06:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyway, my old Dad always said we'd lost - not won. That's why he emigrated.

Your dad was right, we did lose very badly, just not quite as badly as The Axis did.

Atlas shrugged

15 June 2009 at 13:39  
Anonymous g said...

Actually they (S.F.) only have ONE MEP (they had two last election but they lost the on from the Republic)

15 June 2009 at 14:50  
Anonymous len said...

No nonny,
I think evolutionary theory is partly responsible for the mess we are in now.
If it interests you or any others to see a scientific approach to creation may I suggest a visit to Creation Worldview ministries. Evolutionary theory seems to have become a religion which counters the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I believe The E U( and others) encourages the spread of evolutionary theory as it coincides with their own ends.

15 June 2009 at 21:40  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Len - I cannot agree that any theory is responsible for anything.

Nevertheless, I quite see that the Old Deceiver and his minions distort any form of 'science' -or knowledge - to fit the tangled web of their own ends. For what other reason did the poisonous one persuade Eve: "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Gen. 3:5)

Adam and Eve, though, were brighter than the shower we have to deal with: Adam and Eve developed a sense of guilt - conscience - because of what they did.

The weavers of our present bit of shoddy don't do conscience. This lot bit only into the poisoned apple of 'god-ship'; and their job is to turn good stuff to evil (but to switch the labels).

All hard-working Darwin ever did was collect shiploads of data, correlate facts, note the coincidences, and try to understand the truth of what he saw. This flock of turkeys scrat about above workers and facts, and they are in denial of truth. So any form of science eludes them, including Darwin's theory.

And that's hardly a basis for turning scientific theory into religion, I would argue. At least not a religion that knows Yahweh; so their path leads to a monstrous downward spiral - into the devolution of both science and religion!!!

As someone else pointed out, the Marxists got into that by 'filosofising' the arts via pseudo-scientific method. We also see that they continue to show themselves in league with the Devil by turning the resulting chimera into denial of God.

As Bede reminded us, then, "Diabolus" refers to "flowing downward" - and is about a fall in status; and "Satan," the "Prevaricator" or "Adversary,"... "is stubborn in his opposition to the Lord." (Explanatio Apocalypsis; Book 3: Ch. 20 v.2).

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

16 June 2009 at 04:29  
Anonymous len said...

No nonny,
I agree with your comments.
I feel that humanity is on a course that seems to out of control,which is the result of satans determination to thwart the redemption plans of God and mans spiritual blindness. We are in a downward spiral which will eventually bring us into a final confrontation with a Holy God.

16 June 2009 at 07:48  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ooberLib said...

BNP voters come in two flavours: Scum and Idiots.

I see 'Simple minds' are back in fashion. UAF perhaps?

18 June 2009 at 22:24  
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Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a ridiculous comparison between BNP and Sinn Fein but could not expect much better from an ill-informed English man.

Sinn Fein have been elected to represent the ‘minority’ (But only slight minority) of nationalist who reside in the north of the Island of Ireland. These people were persecuted (up until the late 1980s & perhaps presently) to the same extent as foreign national populations received in Britain.

Sinn Fein have been elected as the voice for these people and are respected on this Island. They are also respected for not taking their seats in a foreign government .

England, has washed her hand of Ireland but her children are still here. It’s time to let the Island be united. True we share many similar traits to our Neighbours but we are Irish and deserve a free Island and Irish identity (you are a smart guy, surely you can understand the way this island was populated during the plantation).

If the entire Island was allowed to vote the answer would be unambiguous.

Yes in the past, persons associated with Sinn Fein have murdered and planned attacks but this was a fight for independence. The British establishment has been no saint either during its occupation.

It’s amazing how a few miles of sea can create such a different way of thinking! DO YOU really want Northern Ireland? What is your heart telling you?

14 May 2010 at 21:47  

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