Thursday, July 16, 2009

Obama: Abortion is a 'health benefit'

It is a little like saying that CO2 is a pollutant when, in reality, it is plant food. Except that millions of lives are not at risk as a result of the terminology. Unless, of course, one believes the gospel according to Al Gore.

In his first week in office, President Obama issued an executive order to permit US aid to go to organisations which finance overseas abortions. He says he wants to find ‘common ground’ with pro-lifers, and he told the Pope he would do all he could to limit abortions.

But the reality is that President Obama is weaving government-backed abortion into the fabric of American life and making it a far more integral part of domestic and foreign policy than ever before.

In his draft Democratic plan for health reform, he outlines a universal minimum-benefits package which will be required of every American's health insurance plan, whether provided by a private firm or by the government. It lists, among others, two categories: ‘out-patient hospital services’ and ‘out-patient clinic services’.

Whether abortion is included or not remains to be seen, but it will be decided by a ‘Health Benefits Advisory Committee’ whose membership will be determined by President Obama, who supports live birth abortion, and Kathleen Sebelius, the Health Secretary, who also supports late-term abortions.

If President Obama's preferred health reform becomes law, abortion will be defined as a ‘health benefit’ to be automatically provided to every American family. The restrictions of the last 30 years which have been in place to prevent federal funding being used for almost all abortions will disappear. As soon as abortion on demand is defined as a universal ‘health benefit’, the new narrative will so alter perceptions that the most gruesome methods of infanticide will be presented as good works.

And this vision will be aggressively promoted abroad by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She recently testified that the administration is promoting ‘reproductive health’, which she acknowledged includes ‘access to abortion’. By all accounts, the Democrats are not pursuing this agenda for polling advantage, so sincere conviction becomes the most plausible motive. Sometimes the simplest, most straightforward answer makes the most sense. A president who once said he would not want his daughter ‘punished’ with a baby if she made a mistake is deeply committed to making free and easy access to abortion an inescapable element of American culture.

Cranmer now understands Democratic theology:

If abortion is a ‘health benefit’, it must be a blessing.

If it is a blessing, it must be of God.

If it is of God, it must be good.


But Cranmer is loath to make abortion a religio-political issue. Good grief, no. One must keep religion and politics apart, for the combination invariably proves incendiary.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the saying goes, you can tell a lot about the values of a society by the way they treat their most vulnerable citizens. God (needs to) bless America.

16 July 2009 at 10:21  
Blogger The Young Oligarch said...

Criticised by Tom Harris for allegedly trying to build a Christian support for a political party , Your Grace ?

The man has no shame .

The Labour Party in Glasgow (and nearby Lanarkshire) is notorious for being based on a narrow , sectarian , Irish RC power-block .

But Your Grace knew that already .

16 July 2009 at 10:21  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

Your Grace - I do, as it happens, believe the "gospel" according to Al Gore, but I am sure that we can still remain communicants.

Certainly CO2 is good for plants. Trouble is, there's getting to be rather too much of it around, nowadays, and as we cut down more swathes of Amazon rain forest, there's getting to be even more too much of it.

More people on the planet means more CO2, less trees means more CO2, and more people means less trees. You can see where this is headed.

There's also the problem of methyl hydrate, the untold billions of tons of which have, up to now, been stored safely under Siberian permafrost. As this is now melting, it's already beginning to release untold quantities of methane gas, which spontaneously ignites, and thus melts more permafrost, and also, BTW, releasing yet more CO2. This wasn't supposed to happen for at least 50 years. There was a front page article, and picture, in the Independent newspaper on this topic last year.

Of course, Al Gore could be wrong. Nothing is science is certain. However I'd currently put the odds of him being right at round 90%, and increasing each year as new evidence accumulates.

We'll know for sure when the Greenland ice cap finally goes. But by then, half of the world's coastal cities will be several feet underwater, and so it won't make a lot of difference because, for most of mankind, it will be too late anyway

16 July 2009 at 10:22  
Blogger Jim Bartlet said...

I have always been of the opinion that the 'fabulous' Iain Dale will eventually come back to bite you on the arse. He has masterfully dominated the blog field with his top 500, and he has set the tone at a high pitched bitching and spite-filled slanging match.

When the Tories take over at the next election they are going to find that the Dale and Stains clan are still going to want to keep their status as Queens of the Scandalsphere.

Mr Dale seems to hold some very queer conservative values which seem to center around his perverse and selfish agenda which in my mind exposes him a a hack. He feels comfortable with the high standards of the old conservative world, but somehow thinks he has an exemption certificate to uphold these values.

It's called dancing with the Devil.

16 July 2009 at 10:30  
Blogger Arden Forester said...

I wonder if it ever occurred to the family of the Virgin Mary to suggest such a health benefit?

16 July 2009 at 10:37  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Old Grumpy. You forgot to mention the biggest greehouse gas of all time - aerosolised dihydrogen monoxide. It constitues something like 95% of all greenhouse gases yet no one seems to want to write a policy in order to curb it.

Wonder why that is? ;0)

16 July 2009 at 10:41  
Blogger Gnostic said...

As far as Obama is concerned I'm with this bloke:

For those of you that are unaware, it seems that Obama's presidency may be illiegitimate on the grounds that he is not a US born citizen and won't reveal his full birth certificate in order to silence his critics. A legal case is pending to get the relevant information released in the public interest.

16 July 2009 at 10:45  
Anonymous Sally Greenhalgh said...

I find that it is getting harder and harder to get a consolidated effort in the battle against the tide of immorality and societal breakdown. The more that Christians voice their concerns, then the more we get accused of all manner of deceitfulness. You would have thought that most conservative-minded people would share many of the same values, but this is not so much the case anymore. Confusion reigns.

I agree with the above poster who mentions Dale. I used to follow it on Twitter so I could keep up with the posting on its blog. However I have now had to block the repulsive swine because I have become sick of hearing about his gayness, and his partner, and his partner's birthday surprise....repulsive!

16 July 2009 at 10:48  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

Perhaps we could look at this issue of keeping ‘religion and politics apart’ from another angle (I have not made my mind up on this issue). And let me also address, later, the second issue that religion and politics combined is incendiary.

If the Judaeo-Christian world-view is silenced in the public square then we can look forward to the vast Left-liberal social experiment continuing with all its attendant misery.

If the Judaeo-Christian world-view is silenced in the public square then the vaccuum does not remain a vaccum. It is filled by the thought of Left-liberalism or libertarianism. The result is the same.

Will combining religion and politics lead down an incendiary road? That depends on what the issue is.

The actions of wicked King John led to the writing of that magesterial document, revered by lawyers around the world, known as Magna Carta (1215); the dictatorship imposed by King Charles I led to the English Civil War; imposing taxes without representation abusing Bristish citizens led to the Second English Civil War (The American War of Independence); the propsed imposition by Lincoln of federalism upon American states led to the American Civil War; Wiiliam Wilberforce’s campaign for the abolition of slavery ended in justice not in war; Elizabeth Fry’s campaign on prison reform ended in improved conditions for prisoners and not in war; Martin Luther-king Jr’s campaign for civil rights ended with the Civil Rights Act and not in civil war.

Judaeo-Christians speaking out against Nazi tyranny ended up being executed; Solzhenitsyn speaking and writing against Soviet tyranny paid the price of being thrown into prison which ended decades later by him thanking God for his prison years.

Jesus Christ telling people ‘Love thy neighbour as thyself’ probably subverted the slave-master relationship; for how can a Christian master whip his brother? And His life ended with Truth being put on the scaffold as today’s generation puts god in the dock, tries Him and convicts Him.

Your Grace, a man in my view cannot taste life in all its abundance until he finds a cause worth dying for – as the poet said:

‘in contrast with this life this death..’

16 July 2009 at 10:51  
Anonymous the recusant said...

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences." - C.S. Lewis

16 July 2009 at 11:21  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

Your Grace

Here’s an interesting quote from President Obama when he spoke at Cape Coast Castle, Ghana last week. Cape Coast Castle was one of the most notorious slave stations along the West Coast of Africa.

“…one of the most striking things that I heard was that right above where the male captives were kept was a church, and that reminds us that sometimes we can tolerate and stand by great evil even as we think we are doing good…”

(Reported in the Sunday Telegraph 12th July 2009)

"We can tolerate and stand by great evil even as we think we are doing good".

A salutary piece of advice, which he himself would do well to ponder while he is making decisions about abortion.

16 July 2009 at 11:43  
Blogger Preacher said...

If the Judaeo-Christian Voice is silenced, thus creating a vacuum, is it not possible that the same could be filled by a religion that combines politics & religion, at least for a time, until the Eurostate has completely outlawed & eradicated the voice of Christian protest? The obvious choice would be Islam, hence the current bias towards the same. When they had served their purpose they too would be jettisoned as the Euro version of "Brave New World" is unveiled. Perhaps I'm reading too much into the book of Revelations, but it's a thought worthy of consideration with the proposed elevation of Pope Blair to president of Euroland.

16 July 2009 at 11:50  
Blogger D. Singh said...


Islam certainly combines politics and religion. The Liberal-left elite uses them for its own purpose. They are to be jettisoned (there have been private meetings inside the EU regarding this). The Anti-Christ will not tolerate a rival religion such as Islam.

The EU will certainly resemble the Roman Empire.

EU ideologues know that a state religion will be needed for cohesion and unity along the lines of the cult of the Caesars.

You are not reading too much into Revelation.

But before all that God is hearing the prayers of British and American Christians: New England will exchange her fears for Old England’s tears.

Ye shall live to see that day.

16 July 2009 at 12:09  
Anonymous the recusant said...

Obama says he doesn't want his daughters punished with a baby, well I will show you punishment the likes you cannot imagine, a horror movie that makes Nightmare On Elm Street look like the Magic Roundabout, I present Obam has a Nightmare

I must warn you not to watch this if you are of a nervous disposition or heroically pro choice, it really is too awful watch it a tremble, watch it and weep.

The Horror, the horror…

16 July 2009 at 12:09  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Recusant - :D

A better cure for a bad day I can't imagine.

16 July 2009 at 12:18  
Blogger Jim Bartlet said...

Keeping our Christian beliefs intact is becoming increasingly difficult. Unfortunately we are having to get more involved in the political processes of the world. It is of vitall importance that we do not allow ourselves to be written out of the political equation.

This message is not directly related to Obama and the subject of abortion, but as His Grace has pointed out, there are some who wish to exclude our Christian views from the debate altogeher.

Please can His Grace and communicants consider this draft proposal for an EU Directive which seeks to pass control of important discrimination laws from Westminster to Brussels. The European Union is proposing a Directive to outlaw discrimination on grounds including sexual orientation and religion in the provision of goods or services. The UK already has discrimination laws like this and they have been used to interfere with religious liberty of Christian groups.

PLEASE READ MORE HERE about what can be done.

16 July 2009 at 12:44  
Anonymous indigomyth said...

Jim Bartlet,

I would point out that if discrimination on the grounds of religion is permissible, then Christians are likely to suffer as a result. It would mean that Christians could be denied services and goods on the basis of their faith. And given the alleged hostile climate to True Christians, this could lead to quite a substantial amount of discrimination against Christians. It would mean that a private business (say a hotel) could deny Christians a room for the night, because of their belief. Or, a Muslim hairdresser could refuse to cut the hair of a Christian.

I do not know how well considered is campaigning against the regulations. It seems that you wish to maintain religious honesty to doctrine, but are not considering the repercussions should Christians find themselves in a hostile environment.

Are you prepared to accept being discriminated against, in return for the option of discriminating?

16 July 2009 at 13:30  
Blogger Tomrat said...

Rejecting abortion is not (just) a question of my Christian beliefs; it is an outcome of the belief in the individual over the collective.

A bible teacher called Maurice Barrett once taught me that God cares little for morality - morals are the outcome of doing Gods will; because he was centred not on what humanity could achieve or the group (as is Islam and Catholicism) but what individuals can/will achieve with his help this view naturally championed life and challenges the collectivist view on it: "oh well the child would have a bad life so its better off not existing", "life begins at x weeks gestation, not when metabolism begins" or "my right to my own body is violated by my babies right to his".

BO's actions are merely one side of the man that he is; a collectivist, and one that I will oppose wherever I see it.

16 July 2009 at 13:51  
Blogger Jim Bartlet said...

Grow up for Christ's sakes. Irritating prick!

16 July 2009 at 13:52  
Anonymous indigomyth said...

Jim Bartlet,

If becoming 54 requires me to throw insults in reply to a mild enquiry, then I choose to remain young and cogent.

It amuses me that you advocate becoming involved in the political equation, but when engaged on particular elements of your manifesto you are reluctant to respond in an open manner.

To have more Christians of your kind in the political sphere would do my liberal friends and me a great service. I fondly wish you well in gaining a public platform.

16 July 2009 at 14:14  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

I am struck by your outstanding analysis:

‘Cranmer now understands Democratic theology:

If abortion is a ‘health benefit’, it must be a blessing.

If it is a blessing, it must be of God.

If it is of God, it must be good.’

It reminds me of the abortion lobby’s propaganda, prior to the passing of the 1967 Abortion Act, that 100,000 illegal abortions per year were being performed.

However, a Dr C.B. Goodhart (Cambridge) demonstrated that the number of maternal deaths due to abortion was far too low to support the figure of 100,000 illegal abortions per year.

He then calculated the rate of illegal abortions in one particualr locale, where very liberal access to abortion prevailed even under the old law. Even allowing for a generous measure of illegal abortion in that one locale, he still came to the conclusion that there could be no more than about 20,000 illegal abortions per year for the whole of Britain before the enactment of the 1967 Abortion Act.

When the 1967 Abortion Act came into force the number of maternal deaths shot up.

In other words, NHS surgeons were doing a worse job than the back-street abortionist with her coat hanger.

16 July 2009 at 14:40  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

Jim Bartlett

The Directive if implemented will facilitate the silencing of those religious folk providing goods, facilities and services. It is indeed one of the most destructive Directives aimed at businesses run by religious folk.

At the moment the Czechs, French and the Germans are resisting it.

A good analysis is provided by a Q.C. over at the Christian Institute's website.

Outstanding contribution; keep up the good work.

16 July 2009 at 15:46  
Anonymous sydneysider said...

Agree with grumpy that the deforestation programmes not just in the Amazon region but elsewhere along with the melting of the ice caps are going to have disastrous consequences for the environment. This has all been caused through greed and ignorance.Surely any intelligent person can see the merit of living simply and not draining and polluting the earth's resources.

I think Obama was really referring to the hypocrisy of the church concerning the slave trade.The church has alienated people by too many incidents such as these.The Church has sat on its hands and allowed injustice to take place for political expediency on numerous occasions. It has to take some responsibility for the shift to secularism .

I can't say I agree with CS Lewis on his preference for the robber baron.RB's greed is never satiated.
'When we hang the capitalists.They will sell us the rope we use.'

I'm not up for a sparring match this instant so I'll keep my powder dry.However
don't get too smug over the cricket results.There's a way to go yet.

16 July 2009 at 16:05  
Blogger Jim Bartlet said...

Policy regarding the aggressive homosexual troll called indigomyth.

Ignore mode shall be implemented from this moment onwards...just to state my position. I have followed this blog for some time over the past few months and I have observed that any debate with said troll ends in the same cess pit. Inspite of various attemtps at reasoning it just keeps spewing the same line of rubbish.

Thank you all for your kind patience.

16 July 2009 at 17:01  
Anonymous the recusant said...


Indeed sir, as I type Eng 279-3, Strauss & Collingwood at the crease.

16 July 2009 at 17:17  
Anonymous Adrian P said...

All part of the Globalists agenda, Death by a thousand cuts, the secret is by getting rid of adults, the kids will accept the New World Order as Normal.
WHO Poised to dissolve Nation states

I don't like it.

16 July 2009 at 17:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the obvious conclusion is what exactly?

IMO it can be no other.

Our current forever more pervasive WORLD GOVERNMENT supports population control, via the form of 'MURDER of the innocent.'

Lets us face the reality that none can possibly be more innocent and therefore more deserving of life, then an unborn child.

It is however morally correct to effectively punish or seriously discourage parents from conceiving children, they can not hope to support.

Socialism of course does the EXACT opposite, whenever and wherever it can steal enough funds to do so.

Socialism positively encourages irresponsibility, simply so it can murder people at its own time and place of choosing.

Abortion has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with rights for women, or any other sex, and never has. Abortion is just part of getting us used to being virtually worthless, and highly expendable servants of a coming WORLD STATE.


I personally would trust the word of any inmate of Brixton Prison, more then I would trust that of any president, broadcaster, prime minister or Pope.

For they all have proven themselves to speak with forked-tongue. This, so many times, and in so many ways, it truly defies human imagination.

Brixton Prison may be full to overflowing with bad people. However they did not all get where they are now, simply because they are the most convincing liars, the establishment could find and then corrupt.

The RCC for an example has been in the business of devaluing human life, one way or another, since its own history first began.

Other forms of Fascism, also have many profoundly EVIL habits. One of which is sadistically 'recycling,' what it considers to be profane human beings, of all age groups, nationalities, sexes, or races.

Atlas shrugged

16 July 2009 at 19:05  
Anonymous indigomyth said...

Jim Bartlet,
//I have followed this blog for some time over the past few months and I have observed that any debate with said troll ends in the same cess pit. Inspite of various attemtps at reasoning it just keeps spewing the same line of rubbish.//

Sub-text; Jim Bartlet does not have the intellectual power nor logical acumen to address the insightful and thoughtful contributions I have made. He has never attempted to debate with me, because he knows that he does not have the ability, and therefore runs away like a coward. He is incapable of talking with anyone critical of him without resorting to vulgar language and name-calling.

This has been a service announcement by Indigomyth.

16 July 2009 at 19:12  
Anonymous len said...

We all bow at the font of wisdom.

16 July 2009 at 21:55  
Anonymous len said...

I think that might be fount, perhaps one of you learned scholars might help?

16 July 2009 at 22:00  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Don't know about the font/fount difference, Len; will have to check. Suspect we may reserve font for baptism. Either way, I respond with all due respect!

17 July 2009 at 07:33  
Anonymous Got the Guts to wear God said...

I feel no child is a mistake. When an unborn is described in this way I cringe. A surprise maybe, but definitely not a mistake. Every child conceived is meant to be. The child exists. It is a life. A mother may feel in the first instance that she doesn’t want the child. There may be a multitude of complex issues and circumstances attached but often is the case when the baby is born and the mother cherishes this tiny life in her arms and circumstances and complexities shrink in comparison.

I find myself in a dilemma. Yes, it is a woman’s right to choose…but why abort? So many childless couples desperate to adopt? And if abortion is the only answer in the mind of an individual why can an effort not be made to incubate these premature babies for adoption agencies?

I can justify in my heart the removal of a living, fully formed child from the womb to be left to die. If I was a doctor responsible for such “care” my heart would break in two. I couldn’t do it. There has to be another way.

17 July 2009 at 07:56  
Anonymous Got the Guts to wear God said...

I can justify in my heart the removal of a living, fully formed child from the womb to be left to die.

Sorry, my post should read, I cannot Justify in my heart the removal of a living, fully formed child from the womb to be left to die.

17 July 2009 at 08:00  
Anonymous aghast said...

It didnt take long for Obama to forget his origins.His teenage mother did a good job of raising him and he didn't go without too
many hot dinners.His comment about not punishing his teenage daughter by having her endure a pregnancy is a cruel insult to his mother's memory.

17 July 2009 at 09:09  
Anonymous len said...

I think the details of abortion, especially live birth abortion are too horrific to mention here, but all people who are prepared to go through this process should be made aware of exactly what they are doing.
It is one of the saddest things I have ever looked unto on the internet ,and the ultimate rejection of a child.

17 July 2009 at 13:43  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

[sarcasm]My my, Jim Bartlet certainly comes across as an intelligent, articulate and mature man with deeply well thought out counter arguments to anything he chooses to debate. With such well laid out points I find it hard to retain my point of view in the face of endless logical facts.[/sarcasm]

17 July 2009 at 13:47  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...


I for once can agree with len.

"but all people who are prepared to go through this process should be made aware of exactly what they are doing."

But they should still have the choice if they are sure it is the correct decision. And they shouldn't have their choices made by someone in some group that bears no relation to them.

17 July 2009 at 13:51  
Anonymous invincibly ignorant said...

For Old Grumpy and sydneysider re your misplaced belief in anything the Goracle has to say on AGW

May I humbly suggest you visit

17 July 2009 at 18:00  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so you thought bush was the best thing since sliced bread ? you really are a nutter, perhaps you think it is ok to keep comments on this blog about cutting people's heads off, but i don't . call yourself a christian ? a right wing bigot more like .

18 July 2009 at 00:09  
Blogger dutchlionfrans1953 said...

How can the murder of a human being ever be a health benefit? Only magicians with words, that make lies sound like truth, can get away with that with a wrongly-informed, ignorant, propaganda -weary, bewitched audience!

As far as CO2: The more the better! The increased CO2 is God's natural way of taking care of a growing world population, as it helps crops grow more abundantly and more quickly!

But the haters of mankind, who lie left and right, will not have it.

CO2 is made the enemy - though water vapour is really the greatest 'greenhouse' gas! - because it gives these murderers of mankind, the excuse to rob us of our freedoms, our proseperity, our production, our life in a SOVYET-Marxist way! And our elected officials are our very worst traitors & enemies as they have not only failed to put up a fight against these worst criminals of mankind, they have joined them, and even abuse their legislative and other powers to do the criminal work for them!

18 July 2009 at 02:09  
Anonymous sydneysider said...

@ ignorant
Catholic earthcare Australia has admitted that the Catholic Church is the biggest emitter of CO2 and is going to make amends by reducing
it significantly in spite of the
flat earth supporter Cardinal Pell.
It is a sin to destroy the environment.Grumps knows his religion Recusant,you should pay heed.Spotted you a mile off.Those boulder like rosary beads wrapped around your hair shirt dragging along the monastery floor make such a racket!

18 July 2009 at 04:03  
Anonymous David A said...

Your Grace:

My 'favourite of favourites', The Anchoress, quotes Senator Tom Coburn , speaking to Supreme Court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor at confirmation hearing, July 15, 2009:

“We now record fetal heartbeats at 14 days post-conception. We record fetal brainwaves at 39 days post-conception. And I don’t expect you to answer this, but I do expect you to pay attention to it as you contemplate these big issues. We have this schizophrenic rule of the law where we have defined death as the absence of those, but we refuse to define life as the presence of those.”

18 July 2009 at 10:19  

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