Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Pope to visit Britain in 2010

It is reported that Pope Benedict XVI is to visit the UK in January 2010 (that was the BBC's first reported date: it has since been amended to 'details to be announced').

It will be the first papal visit to Britain since 1982, when Pope John Paul II's six-day tour drew them from the four corners of the state to touch the hem of his garment.

This visit will doubtless coincide with the beatification of Cardinal Newman, and Gordon Brown will also hope to use it as a useful prelude to an April(?) general election.

Nothing like a bit of feel-good fervour to mesmerise the masses and induce acceptance of the status quo.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel that the UK are less susceptible to virginal appearances and papal visits. Even such things will not be enough to induce acceptance of this bloody status quo.

23 September 2009 at 17:29  
Blogger English Viking said...

Is that a Nazi salute? I guess old habits die hard.

23 September 2009 at 17:43  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why on earth would Brown call an election in April when the locals are in May?!

23 September 2009 at 17:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He has dark, evil eyes. He reminds me of a snake.

23 September 2009 at 17:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose the chances of him being turned away at the airport for holding extreme views are less likely now that silly bitch has gone from office.

Word verification = poetal

23 September 2009 at 18:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a book depository or grassy knoll near Westminster Cathedral?

23 September 2009 at 18:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF are 'dark evil eyes'? I need to know how to distinguish this....nobody has bothered to explain this to me, and Goggle is devoid of sufficient objective methodologies. Please can someone detail how dark evil eyes can be distinguished from ordinary dark eyes, or light evil eyes, and or ordinary light eyes. This could be crucial if I am not to be sectioned under the mental health act.

Oh, and please further explain what characteristics do snakes have that can add to this, or detract from it for this matter. I have had limited exposure to snakes, but I have never seen the pope slither around on his belly making hissing noises, and poking his tongue out randomly tasting the air, so what other snake qualities are we talking here?

23 September 2009 at 18:16  
Blogger Red Kite said...

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23 September 2009 at 18:52  
Blogger Fr William said...

Your Grace,

Most media sources are talking about next autumn, which would be after a general election needs to have taken place. (To make all the necessary arrangements in three or four months would seem a tall order in any case.)

23 September 2009 at 18:53  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

English Viking

I am now reporting you to the police for mocking my leader.

Expect a knock on the door from Mr Plod.

sorry - my mistake

I am Roman Catholic not Muslim

Silly me.

23 September 2009 at 18:59  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

You know people really should refrain from mocking the POPE in any form. He’s head of a Christian religion and it this very attitude of sneering and disrespect that weakens and erodes the faith contributing to the downfall of the Christian way of life.
It’s good news that he is coming to UK to reinforce Christianity, and black eyes, or not he’s a good man. No wonder Muslims are getting the upper hand, you don’t catch them mocking their own religious leaders and figureheads.

23 September 2009 at 19:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pope..head of a Christian religion? Don't make me laugh. That charlatan has never been a true believer. You only have to look at his past to see that. Wake up.

23 September 2009 at 20:31  
Anonymous not a machine said...

The pope is welcome to come to the UK , I hope it will enable a mutal respect of Anglicanism and Roman Catholism for the benefit of increasing Christs folowers and believers . If he brings along his excorcism squad he could do little wrong but go to 10 downing street and purge the evil spirits that now pose as our political leaders .

He should bear in mind that he will be vsisting a socialist dictatorship , although somtimes I wonder if would feel at home !

23 September 2009 at 20:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the pope is the false prophet spoken of in the Bible. Or is that Tony Bliar? Whatever, the New World Order is fast heading our way, if only people would see it and also the One World Religion. Only time will tell.

Let's look up, because our redemption draws near!

23 September 2009 at 20:50  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

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24 September 2009 at 00:02  
Anonymous καθολικός said...

There are people out there offering acts of reparation for your blasphemies. May God grant you faith and repentance.

"And Jesus said: Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." (St Luke 23:34)

24 September 2009 at 00:41  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

Who? Me?

Don't worry about it, I have no belief in all religions equally.

So I find it hard to be a blasphemer when I find none of this nonsense to sacred anyway.

24 September 2009 at 00:44  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

apologies, "*to be sacred anyway."

24 September 2009 at 00:44  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

@ Not a Machine
I don’t think there is enough Holy Water in the world to exorcise all the evil in Downing Street right now, but he can make a start on the prince of darkness, although that would take him and the squad longer than his visit.

Anonymous 20:31
He grew up in the same area as my father and is only 6 yrs younger. Roman Catholicism was very strong in that region and I believe still is today. I would say he is most definitely a true believer.

24 September 2009 at 00:45  
Anonymous Bob said...

I don't quite see how the pope could influence anything in Britain - we only have 4 million catholics, and most of them are labour mps anyway

'yay the head of a minority religion's coming!...let's all vote for Brown?'

24 September 2009 at 01:07  
Blogger D. Singh said...

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24 September 2009 at 08:39  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr Glovner,

Temperate language please if you wish to keep company with civilised correspondents.

24 September 2009 at 08:43  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

Just getting across the point that I will happily shout nonsense equally at all religions, including islam.

More temperate language to illustrate my point would have felt a little like self censorship, so I decided not to.

24 September 2009 at 11:03  
Anonymous sydneysider said...

I'd like to know what grumps and other Catholics think about the
Pope cosying up to Tony Blair with his outrageous and uncatholic pronouncements.

24 September 2009 at 11:30  
Blogger English Viking said...

Just a couple of points, in response to some of the above.

1 The Pope is not a Christian. Christians follow Christ and no-one else. He seems a bit keen on Mary (who has been a long time dead, was a sinner and didn't die for anybody's sins) for the description Christian.

2 Catholicism is not a Christian denomination, it is, at best, a Christian Cult. It's adherents devotion to dead sinners like Mary and the 'Saints' is an example of this. Other examples are; Idolatry in the form of veneration, worship and prayer to and of graven images, superstitious belief in 'magic water', denial of one of the central doctrines of orthodox Christianity, justification by faith. I could go on but I suspect it may not be worth the effort.

3. The Pope is an ex-member of the Hitler Youth. That is a fact, not an opinion or a slander.

4. Christ is the Head of the Church, not the Pope. The Church i.e. the body of true believers, is God's visible presence on earth today.

5. If the Pope and his predecessors had concentrated on spreading the Gospel, instead of living in a Palace detached from reality, we might not be facing Islamic domination and a collapse of morality and true spirituality in the West today.

Put that in your incense burner and smoke it.

24 September 2009 at 14:00  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

English Viking 14:00
“3. The Pope is an ex-member of the Hitler Youth. That is a fact, not an opinion or a slander. “

This is correct. ALL young boys HAD to join the Hitler Youth whether they liked it or not. A lot did not want to join and the only exemption was if you were already a member of an organisation that Hitler could find of use. My father through his passion for all forms of flying was a member of a gliding club so was exempt.
Under Hitler it was a totalitarian regime nobody could do what they wanted to do they had to do what they were told. The Hitler youth eased the young men into the role of soldier whether they liked or not, they didn’t have any say. The fact that some of them carried on going to Church in defiance of Hitler.

Whilst no doubt there have been corrupt Popes in the middle ages, the latter Popes have tried hard to live up to their position and standard which is required from them. The Pope carries the mantle of St Peter Jesus’ 1st disciple. He lives where St Peter is Buried and passes the word out to his Bishops who in turn spread the word down through the ranks to the flock. The Pope is doing his best to keep Christianity alive.

24 September 2009 at 16:01  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

I receive an e-mail from a site called Prophecy News Watch. I thought that the below might be of interest to your communicants.

The prophecies of the Irish saint Malachy, the 12th century bishop of Armagh who predicted all the popes, have thrilled and dismayed readers for centuries. He has stated there will be only one more pope after the current one, and during his reign comes the end of the world.

"In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

In 1139, then-Archbishop Malachy went to Rome from Ireland to give an account of his affairs. While there, he received a strange vision about the future that included the name of every pope, 112 in all from his time, who would rule until the end of time. We are now at the second last prophecy.

His predictions are taken very seriously. As one report states, "In 1958, before the Conclave that would elect Pope John XXIII, Cardinal Spellman of New York hired a boat, filled it with sheep and sailed up and down the Tiber River, to show that he was 'pastor et nautor,' the motto attributed to the next Pope in the prophecies."

As for the prophecy concerning the 111th pope, Pope Benedict, the prophecy says of him, "Gloria Olivae," which means "the glory of the olive."

The order of Saint Benedict is also known as the Olivetans, which many claim makes Malachy's prophecies correct. The next and final pope then should be "Peter Romanus"

St. Malachy gave an account of his visions to Pope Innocent II, but the document remained unknown in the Roman archives until its discovery in 1590.

Many of the prophecies are spot on. For example, the one about Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis.

Pope John Paul II is De labore Solis, meaning "of the eclipse of the sun." Karol Wojtyla, who would become Pope John Paul II, was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse.
Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his many journeys to new lands.

So is Benedict the second last pope? The Irish seer of the 12th century has said it will be so. Time will tell.

(Posters: thank His Grace - not me.)

24 September 2009 at 17:09  
Blogger Wyrdtimes said...

What a sorry state of affairs. The truth teller Geert Vilders is banned but this old hypocrite and pedlar of lies is welcome.

We need a revolution.

24 September 2009 at 17:16  
Anonymous sydneysider said...

My question was addressed to those
who are Catholics not an unhinged
viking of indeterminate origin who is unable to answer the question.

24 September 2009 at 17:42  
Anonymous J.C. Ryle said...

While Catholicism is indeed necessary to salvation, properly speaking it subsists more in the churches of the Magisterial Reformation than amongst Romish usurpers.

25 September 2009 at 02:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What if we organize some kind of aggressive Church of England Presence to let him know this is a Protestant country? As anti-Catholic and Anti-Mozzy as possible?

25 September 2009 at 10:47  
Blogger English Viking said...

@Marie 1797

It is not true that he had no choice in the matter of joining the Hitler Youth. He could have died for his faith, in true Christian fashion. He appears to have been willing to keep his mouth shut and go with the flow, whilst there are numerous incidences of other, equally young and weak children, who refused to.

25 September 2009 at 12:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Popey is not coming to blighty to reinforce christianity, he's reinforcing the religion of roman catholicism, far removed from biblical christianity. There is no praying to mary in chritianity nor its bible, neither is there purgatory, relics or praying to saints amongst other superstitions and money raising frauds. GOD bless charles chiniquy

25 September 2009 at 17:50  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

English Vikig 12:13

He could have died. But why? This would have been the easy way, appeasing Hitler and denying the world of a good person. Hitler was keen that people should not attend Church but by continuing to do this he defied him in the best way he could.

25 September 2009 at 19:03  
Blogger English Viking said...

Marie 1797

'....denying the world of a good person.'

Why callest thou HIM good?

The paraphrased words of a wise man, you might recognise them, then again....

25 September 2009 at 21:10  
Anonymous churchmouse said...

English Viking - Quite.

25 September 2009 at 21:24  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Well he is remarkably good to have climbed the ladder so high and to have been elected to be the Bishop of Rome head of the largest Christian Church in the world.

26 September 2009 at 00:33  
Blogger English Viking said...


There is only one Christian Church in the world and it's head is The Lord Jesus Christ. For a sinful man to claim headship is blasphemy.

26 September 2009 at 21:19  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

"There is only one Christian Church"

Well that's not really true now is it. There are quite a few, just one in particular you have decided to throw your hat in the ring for though.

28 September 2009 at 08:49  
Anonymous Heretick said...

Marie 1797 said
"Well he is remarkably good to have climbed the ladder so high and to have been elected to be the Bishop of Rome head of the largest Christian Church in the world."

This is not necessarily indicitive of goodness; it could be a consequence of skilful politicking and luck

28 September 2009 at 18:21  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Heretick 18:21

I meant he’s good as in clever, expert, able of course.

28 September 2009 at 21:52  
Anonymous len said...

The true church ıs the Body of Chrıst not a steeple buıldıng ın whıch people perform relıgıous rıtuals.
The pope ıs a mortal. Jesus Chrıst lıves and ıntercedes for fallen man forever!
Vısıt the tombs of past popes then vısıt the tomb of Jesus Chrıst and you wıll fınd ıt ıs empty.

30 September 2009 at 19:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was born in England 54 years ago but I have always felt an outsider.

This blog & comments have crystallized why that is. I'm Roman Catholic and I am obviously despised for holding to the faith of our fathers by the English protestant majority. Other religious leaders are not treated to this kind of hatred. I suppose Dr Paisley will drag himself over here to scream his obscenity at another Bishop of Rome.

6 October 2009 at 00:39  
Blogger Benjamin said...

As the head of one of the most ignorant; conservative sects in Christianity the Pope is not welcome in Britain. Not by me anyway.

22 November 2009 at 19:10  

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