Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Trust in Labour evaporates

According to The Guardian, The Conservative Party now enjoys a 17 point lead over Labour.

Cranmer is not a psephologist, and has little time for polls, but he was struck by the headline: Voters believe Labour is not telling truth...

That is to say, the Government is lying.

It is damning indeed that even Labour supporters do not trust their party: only 36 per cent of current Labour supporters, and just 26 per cent of its 2005 voters, think the government is telling the truth about the nation's finances.

Truth, trust, integrity, honesty, authenticity have all been eroded under this government. It is not only time for a change: it is time for a miracle.

Locke believed trust to be central to consensual government: trustworthiness is inherent to the success of our institutions. Government brings forth truth by its sentences, statements and propositions. It is permitted the occasional noble lie, but Labour's entire discourse has become a lie. A decade of indoctrination which has yielded nothing but doubt.

There is no legitimacy in a government which makes a virtue of deceit.

If Cranmer were not so depressed, he would write more. But his spirit is the lowest it has been since he faced death. And for that, he cannot blame Labour.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

But his spirit is the lowest it has been since he faced death. And for that, he cannot blame Labour

Perhaps not labour, but people with a similar view to those who oppose their orthodoxy.

22 September 2009 at 09:08  
Anonymous Mr Andy Bawtree, Clerk in Holy Orders said...

Your Grace, buck up , "up from the ashes grow the roses..."

There is always hope where there's life - even if it is life after death in your case.

22 September 2009 at 09:29  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

This is indeed a ‘merry message’:

‘There is no legitimacy in a government which makes a virtue of deceit.’

For our great philosopher John Locke (1632 – 1704) said:

‘The only way by which one divests himself of his natural liberty and puts on the bonds of civil society is by agreeing with other men to join and unite into a community.’

Second Treatise of Civil Government (1690) ch. 8, sect. 95

But we can no longer have a legitimate relationship with our government – since any such relationship would be based upon mutual deceit.

And, Your Grace, sometimes a message from a distant land may strengthen the spirit:

‘But they that wait upon the Lord

shall renew their strength:

they shall mount up with wings as eagles;

they shall run, and not be weary;

they shall walk, and not faint.’

Isiah ch. 40, v. 31

22 September 2009 at 09:46  
Blogger Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs said...

I am still amazed, even now, that the labour vote has not plummeted further.

I can only assume there's a hardcore, blinkered, tribalist core of labour voters out there that will always vote labour, even if it were lead by a man with a funny moustache called Adolf. Or Blair.

22 September 2009 at 10:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I can only assume there's a hardcore, blinkered, tribalist core of labour voters out there that will always vote labour, even if it were lead by a man with a funny moustache called Adolf. Or Blair."

Are you referring to employees of our bloated Public Sector, who still think that their jobs are safer under Labour than the Tories? Or the work-shy and benefits junkies, who assume their "lifestyles" will still be supported by Labour? Or those who are told who to vote for by their "community leaders", who believe that only under Labour will demands for Shari'a law be heard and acted upon?

The list of vested interests is substantial. Whilst failing to address most of this country's problems, Labour has ensured that it has entrenched its core vote and has added substantially to it.

22 September 2009 at 10:40  
Blogger D. Singh said...

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22 September 2009 at 10:52  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

The Conservative party has a substantial lead. However, Cameron has an open wound which he has failed to plug.

Doctors in the field of poltical science call the wound the Lisbon (Constitutional) Treaty. There is a constant trickle of Tory voters coursing their way to UKIP. The majority of UKIP members are former Conservatives.

I cannot find it in my heart to condemn their desertion.

How can one condemn a man for loving his country?

Nay. I cannot do it.

22 September 2009 at 10:53  
Blogger Kenpachi said...

Will the Torries really be any better?

There is no doubt that Labour is an abomination, but I can't have much hope that the Conservative party will do anything more than to slow the decline of our civilisation ever so slightly, but do nothing to stop or reverse it.

22 September 2009 at 11:15  
Blogger Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs said...

Or the work-shy and benefits junkies, who assume their "lifestyles" will still be supported by Labour?

I'm sure you are right anon that the public sector, quangos and other parts of the infrastructure do support labour but I can't imagine the above demographic would bother to even drag their sorry arses from the TV to the voting booths, let alone being able to work out how to do a posting vote.

22 September 2009 at 11:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs
.....let alone being able to work out how to do a posting vote.

There fiendly neighbourhood labour activist will fill it out for them, visit them at home to get the signatures and post it for them.

Even simpler, the labour activist could just forge their signatures. Minimum effort maximum reward.

22 September 2009 at 11:52  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...


They probably won't be a great deal better, but will definately be somewhat better at this time.

However, this unfortunately is the main issue with only having a two party system (I understand that there are other parties to choose from but none of these will ever get into power, at least not for a long time yet anyway, due to the fact that their target audience is not as large or broad as the main two).

Them's the breaks, it's one reason why come retirement (or early retirement as is the hope) it's bye bye to the U.K from me.

Having said which there isn't a lot of places to go where it is much better, looks like Canada is the spot for me though

22 September 2009 at 11:56  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

If there is a possibility that Labour activists will forge signatures on postal votes; then perhaps Cameron should call for UN Election monitors.

I know, I know this isn’t Rhodesia. But if the Lisbon Treaty is in force and given that it is self-amending (voters not required); it opens up the possibility of Brown assuming some sort of Presidential-style office (established by the EU) supervising Cameron.

Does anyone know if the Conservatives are canvassing, through the Internet, the votes of ex-pats?

22 September 2009 at 12:01  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@D. Singh

They've already been caught fiddling postal votes.

But even though found out no one will be sent to gaol for it.
After all it benefits labour, so that's OK in the eyes of the establishment.

It also happened in 2004

The Birmingham actions are so blatent they couldn't be hidden, but some dubious postal voting effects have been noticed in labour wins up and down the country.

Nothing can eradicate from my heart a deep and burning hatred for the Labour Party

22 September 2009 at 12:18  
Blogger D. Singh said...


What the Dickens has gone on?

Who conducted the investigation?

The Baker Street Regulars?

22 September 2009 at 12:36  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

Note for TheGlovner, your Grace:

I was chatting with a senior government advisor in Canada earlier this year, and he told me that Canada expects to be in receipt of a very substantial number of "displaced white English" sometime during the next couple of decades, time unspecified, of course, but at the time of the establishment of the Islamic state in what was once the UK.

So there you have it. At least one other country is actively making provision for us. Good to know, really, that we may yet have a new home to go to in the new world, when we're invited to leave here at the behest of the friendly Islamic axeman

PS the word verification today was "holyper". Very good, your Grace....that system of yours does have a certain sense of humour

22 September 2009 at 12:54  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

Yup, Canada seems like the place.

My wife is American so that is also an option but to be honest the idea of living in America doesn't seem like a good one to retire to.

Nice place to visit, and my wife certainly doesn't want to live there.

My word verification was:


Make what you want of that one.

22 September 2009 at 13:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@D. Singh

The 2004 fraud was investigated by the police and the election authorities.

Result, yes fraud was identified in favour of labour but further action wasn't deemed in the public interest. Deemed by who, the DPP I guess.

In the last by-election in Scotland postal votes more than tripled, all in favour of labour. When an investigation was requested it seems the voting records had gone missing. labour again and police didn't follow up.

Be very afraid of postal votes, labour seem to be immune from prosecution and have a dubious track record.

Nothing can eradicate from my heart a deep and burning hatred for the Labour Party

22 September 2009 at 15:04  
OpenID scottspeig said...


My heart is set on NZ!

Quite similar to UK, but warmer, and similar at present to when England was a nice place to live! :)

22 September 2009 at 16:11  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

Well I am Scottish so I ain't sure if NZ or Oz would be a little hot for me and my wife is from Chicago so again she is used to the cold.

Although half of my family already reside in Oz so I believe that counts towards your entry requirements.

22 September 2009 at 16:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm married to a New Zealander and I have always been apprehensive of the time when she decides to "go hom". However, the results of New Labour's government of this country have now placed me in a position when I can't wait to leave the UK and start again somewhere else. I don't want my children growing up in this hell-hole.

22 September 2009 at 17:07  
Blogger Dave said...

No matter where—of comfort no man speak. Let’s talk of graves, of worms, and epitaphs, Make dust our paper, and with rainy eyes Write sorrow on the bosom of the earth...

Chin up, Your Grace! I have been proselytizing on your behalf today and hope to have won you five new readers.

I told 'em you'd been a bit grumpy recently (new term?), but not to take heed. For when it comes to the really dark materials man must necessarily treat with, Your Grace is best of all at staying squeaky clean (a + of having no corporeal form?!). Keep at it!

22 September 2009 at 17:59  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

Your Grace - all these folks planning on leaving the UK. Must be music to the Government's ears! So many less whites. So much more room for the immigrants. So much more of a "proper" balanced multicultural paradise. And, too, less whites to have to force out come the revolution. Far better that they leave voluntarily, after all.

22 September 2009 at 18:01  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in Wales at the moment, well actually I have always lived here, so I need to find somewhere with mountains, sheep, gobledegook, and an assembly full of pricks. Any ideas?

22 September 2009 at 19:24  
Anonymous John Malcolmson said...

Old Grumpy-

Those whites who acquiesce to tyranny, probably the majority, that is to say those who are prepared to (or have no choice but to) continue to live in a state where to practice Christianity will soon be a criminal offence, those who really cannot see the connection between the elimination of the faith on which the liberty of Englishmen is founded and the removal of that liberty, are in for a rude awakening. I am reminded of the chap (his name escapes me) who wrote the poem containing the lines "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up because I was not a Jew...then they came for me, and there was no-one left to speak up for me".

And let us not forget that it isn't just WHITE Christians that are being silenced in this country - religious "correctness" is gradually superseding political and racial correctness.

22 September 2009 at 19:35  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

It is written:

'I have chosen thee out of the furnace of affliction.'

22 September 2009 at 20:31  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Your Grace,

May the clouds lift and the sun shine through for you very soon.
I think you need a large bar of British Cadbury’s chocolate to cheer you up before it melts away into a blob of rancid American margarine.

Are the Conservatives under Wisteria Dave any more honest and trustworthy than that bunch of duplicitous crooks at the NU Liebore though?

Can he woo back the conservative voters that are deflecting to the BNP, UKIP and others? And can he define his policies and convey them with much more passion and conviction than his current insipid leftist mumblings. He must give a vision of how the future would be under the Conservatives which up until now I don’t seem to have really seen or heard.

The country needs qualified, experienced Christian candidates chosen by the public to represent and govern them for the greater good of the country to restore decency and honour.

22 September 2009 at 20:55  
Blogger dmk said...

If evaporating trust in Labour continues to mean a month-on-month increase in those intending to vote Labour, then Brown must be thrilled.

22 September 2009 at 20:58  
Blogger Miss Snuffleupagus said...

I am thinking of you, Your Grace. Remember that the sun always shines after the darkest hour. May it shine brightly on you tomorrow.
Snuffy x

22 September 2009 at 21:59  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Ms Snuffy,

You cannot imagine...

22 September 2009 at 23:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From David Lonsdale

Your Grace,
You are right; we cannot imagine. But we do know that God understands the cause of your depression and he has brought affliction to you for a season that he may be glorified.
Job was afflicted, but we understand the purpose in a way that Job, at the time, did not. By refusing to "curse God and die", as his wife suggested, he overcame Satan. That is why Paul exhorts us to give thanks in everything. By doing so we are confirming out trust in God in the circumstances that surround us. We may not be able to see the wider purpose, but God can.
If ever my corrupt body is crumbling under the weight of whatever yoke I have chosen to carry I remember the words of the hymn, "What a friend we have in Jesus. all our sins and griefs to bear, what a privilee to carry, everything to God in prayer".
Be of good cheer you Grace. Many of your communicants will now be praying for you and with you.
Perhaps I may recommend that you sing, "And Can It Be", by Wesley to remind yourself of wherre you stand before God. Sing it at the top of your voice to the principalities and powers. You are a child of the King. Your name may not be written in the family tree of the house of Windsor but it is written in the book of life.
May the Lord bless you.

23 September 2009 at 12:01  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Lonsdale.

Bless you.

You have brought a tear to His Grace's eye. He deeply appreciates your prayers at this time.

23 September 2009 at 12:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like many of your followers I am troubled by the stubborn fact that still, even now, 25%, one quarter of the electorate is prepared to vote for Labour.
I have to assume that most are either, deluded (Scots, Welsh, Northern English, tribesmen all),dishonest (Class warriors, and most of the deluded,)traitors or international enemies (many racial and religious immigrant groups)or the marxists Gramsciites who hope to first destroy our culture and build in it's place a sort of revolutionary society built on a new guillotine enforced equality.

23 September 2009 at 13:38  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

I'm sorry.

But did you just make the claim that Scots, Welsh, and Northern English are deluded?

I hope I picked you wrong but the claim of deluded people followed by the groups in the parenthisis gave that impression.

23 September 2009 at 16:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@D, Singh

Following on from the voter fraud in Birmingham; I happened across an interesting link to Baroness Scotland.

Lin Homer was chief executive of Birmingham City Council during the 2005 fraud (which I forgot about)


She then moved on to run Immigration and Nationality Directorate, which became the Border and Immigration Agency and then the UK Border Agency.

A life long labourite not unassociated with corrupt practices, of which I'm sure she was totally unknowing of even though it was her responsibility.

Rewarded for her unswerving loyalty to the labour cause.

Yes, this is the same Lin Homer who accepted what the Baroness Scotland claimed and who decided that a 5,000 fine was acceptable allthough the going rate seems to be 10,000/illegal for other offenders.

A judge described the council as having "thrown the rule book out of the window" the council Lin Homer was CE of.

Nothing can eradicate from my heart a deep and burning hatred for the Labour Party

24 September 2009 at 17:56  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Your Grace - I've only just seen this, and would like to add my concern and best wishes to those of your other well-wishers. I hope the light comes soon: as I recall - 'The darkest hour is just before the dawn.'

P.S. Reason I missed your post was surgery - spinal fusion. Successful - so hope you're in the same sort of loop.

26 September 2009 at 05:20  

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