Wednesday, November 25, 2009

A Hung Parliament?

The bets are on. Apparently, a hung parliament is a highly likely outcome of the next general election, following decades of gerrymandering and Labour-favouring boundary reviews. And in such a scenario, the Liberal Democrats have indicated that they would support the Conservative Party: Yes, Nick Clegg would be prepared to climb into bed with David Cameron, if the Conservative leader would entertain such a coupling.

Can you imagine the chimera Cabinet this would spawn?

Prime Minister – David Cameron
Deputy Prime Minister – Nick Clegg
Chancellor of the Exchequer – Vince Cable
Home Secretary – George Osborne
Foreign Secretary – William Hague
Education Secretary – Chris Huhne
Health Secretary – Chris Grayling
Transport Secretary – Michael Gove
Environment Secretary – Simon Hughes
Europe Secretary (a LibDem demand) – Charles Kennedy
Constitutional Reform Secretary another LibDem demand) – Ed Davey
Defence Secretary – Liam Fox
Culture Secretary – Ken Clarke
Leader of the Lords - Thomas, Lord Stratclyde
Deputy Leader of the Lords - Menzies, Lord Campbell

(Cranmer cannot be bothered to continue speculating upon this nightmare)

The price for having Prime Minister Cameron would doubtless be a referendum on Proportional Representation, probably another on the Euro, and Dr Evan Harris would achieve his life-long ambition to disestablish the Church of England.

A hung parliament would be disastrous for the nation; the worst of every world.

There is speculation in today’s Times on the role of the Queen in such a scenario. Of course, she would first invite the leader of the largest party to ask if he might be able to form a government. Yet a minority government might not be able to govern. And what if the largest party – by some fusion of economic luck, electoral fluke and Cameronian calamity – were to be Labour? The Queen would invite Gordon Brown to form a government, and what would Nick Clegg then do?

And what might the DUP do?

Cranmer has been warning the Conservative Party for a few years that cosying up to the Ulster Unionists might be politically expedient in Northern Ireland, but it could spell disaster in Westminster, where the UUP have just one MP while the DUP have nine. And Labour have been courting those nine quite assiduously, especially over some crucial votes which could have fatally wounded the Government.

There is no possibility of Sylvia, Lady Herman joining a Conservative Cabinet, and her singularity would be of no benefit in a coalition anyway.

But what about:

Prime Minister – David Cameron
Deputy Prime Minister – Peter Robinson
Chancellor of the Exchequer – George Osborne
Home Secretary – Chris Grayling
Foreign Secretary – William Hague
Education Secretary – Michael Gove
Health Secretary – William McCrea
Transport Secretary – Jeffery Donaldson
Environment Secretary – Sammy Wilson
Culture Secretary – Jeremy Hunt
Europe Secretary – Ian Paisley
Justice Secretary – Dominic Grieve
Defence Secretary – Liam Fox
Business Secretary – Ken Clarke
Leader of the Lords - Thomas, Lord Strathclyde
Deputy Leader of the Lords - David, Lord Trimble

There would be no demand for PR, no appetite for the Euro or 'ever closer union', and a healthy respect for the nation's Christian foundation and the constitutional position of the Queen.

While a hung parliament may the worst of all worlds, there is surely a lesser evil.


Blogger AndrewWS said...

There is no point in the Tories going into any sort of coalition with a party that has only nine MPs and is never going to have more than that.

If UKIP win the right number of seats, it might be worth working at a coalition of Con/UKIP/DUP - and, given the number of hardline Prots in its ranks, possibly the SNP as well - but Our Dave is too wet to entertain the thought.

25 November 2009 at 09:56  
Blogger James said...

Don't you mean Hague as DPM and Grant Shapps as Foreign Secretary?

Because that's what's going to happen.

25 November 2009 at 10:15  
Blogger FABVirgil said...

Some of the selfish ravings that you come out with in some of your posts, which display the the heart of someone incapable of seeing beyound their own small world has me feeling happy to hear you whine here today. Please do continue with this, I am wishing the very worse of your fears upon you and your kind as you reap what you have sown.

I have actually got something to look forward to. The best weapon for revenge now is not the BNP or UKIP, it's the LibDems. God I can hear the retching and choking already. fantastic!

25 November 2009 at 10:25  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace, I have devoted 2 blog posts to the liberals position and what ifs of a hung parliament, but your article has got me thinking about this again, so some further thoughts in reaction to his Grace’s article are :

What government comes out of the woodwork in 2010 will depend upon the state of the parties, but suppose labour is largest in terms of seats, but Tories are largest in terms of votes? Who would the liberals back then? What is the role of the Monarch in deciding who will be Prime Minister?

My own understanding (and this is backed up by the Fink's times article) is that the current Prime Minister (Brown) could advise the Monarch that he could not form a stable government and recommend Cameron form a minority administration (as Baldwin did in 1924 and advised the King to ask Ramsay MacDonald to form the first labour government) OR that he should form a minority government, as leader of the largest party in the commons, if he cannot form a coalition.

Brown will, in effect, be daring the Queen to sack him and daring the other parties to force another election on every piece of legislation, by declaring them all 'no confidence' motions. A similar thing has been happening in Canada for the past few years.

In the meantime the press say Brown is not PM legitimately, there is a run on the pound as the city loses confidence that the political system can deal with the huge deficit that brown built up in attempting to win.

There are then calls on the Queen to sack Brown. Would she do this? Would she follow the precedent set in Australia in the 1970s, when she (or her governor) sacked a labour government, replaced it with a Tory one and called an election?

A hung Parliament would clearly be bad for the nation. Let us pray it is clear cut one, either way.

25 November 2009 at 10:41  
Blogger FABVirgil said...

David Cameron and Tory pals to make £7million from inheritance tax changes if they get elected.

And you wonder why I am enjoying your pain!

25 November 2009 at 10:44  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

FABVirgil - And if we don't get the Socialists out, our COUNTRY WILL BE BANKRUPT !! I bet in your heart of hearts, you must see the Tories have to win, because you know and I know, they are the only ones who can get the nation out of the mess that Brown has created after 12 years of misrule.

25 November 2009 at 10:48  
Anonymous Village Parson said...

Andrew WS, the problem with your theory is that UKIP will only take away votes or seats from the tories, so it will only shift the right wing vote, not create any more seats for the right.

25 November 2009 at 10:50  
Blogger FABVirgil said...

Village Parson

Nail on the head, and when (not if) the ocean of ethnicity latch on to these implications it could actually turn things around quite unexpectedly towards an even greater scenario of doom.....Oh God please yes! How can I encourage this?

25 November 2009 at 10:54  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

Your Grace, you made one mistake, you didn't think to include D.Singh in your cabinet. He should be Europe Secretary and be given the task of negotiating our way out of the EU, I can think of no-one more versed in the EU to do this task for the nation. After he has done so, I am sure the Queen will give him a Peerage- say Viscount Singh -on behalf of a grateful nation.

25 November 2009 at 10:54  
Anonymous Harold Wilson said...

I'm suprised to hear about the DUP supporting Labour. I would have thought Labour would be courting the Sinn Fein- some how wrangle the rules so they don't have to take the oath and then they have 4 supportive MPs.

25 November 2009 at 10:58  
Anonymous Evangelical Ulsterman said...

Two observations about the second scenario Your Grace:
1) It is William McCrea, not McRea - a man never deemed fit to hold an Executive post in Northern Ireland and therefore highly unlikely to be put forward by his party for a position in a UK wide Executive - he would be far to out of his depth and
2) you make no allowance for the fact that since the last Westminster election the DUP have gone into government with Sinn Fein/IRA. As a direct result of this they lost 40% of their vote to a party under two years old called Traditional Unionist Voice.

Ian Paisley - if he stands again which appears unlikely as he has become invisible in Northern Ireland - faces a strong challenge from TUV leader and successful Barrister, Jim Allister, in his North Antrim seat. Many expect whoever the DUP put up against Allister - should it be Paisley Senior or his son Ian Jur (who is a total liability) - will be unable to hold the seat.

It remains to be seen if Allister's party can find creditable candidates to run in other seats (they certainly have at least one other very capable young solicitor who will be running against Donaldson) but they certainly have the potential to do the DUP a lot of damage by possibly handing seats to the UUP/Tories as they eat into the old DUP vote.

One thing is for certain - the DUP will not have 9 MPs in the next Parliament.

25 November 2009 at 10:58  
Blogger gyg3s said...

Cranmer and his acolytes should be contemplating what this would do to the bond markets.

Election uncertainty would increase the chances of financial crisis; viz, the second wave.

25 November 2009 at 11:03  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

I have to agree with Evangelical Ulsterman, your Grace. I would add that it would not suprise me if Labour (as Harold Wilson@10.58 says) were not trying to change the oath requirement to allow Sinn Fein/IRA to take their seats and support labour. I always thought that the socialists had quite strong ties to or were supportive of Sinn Fein.

Of course this would make labour's support for the war on terror look absurd, but Brown will do anything to get power.

25 November 2009 at 11:04  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Evangelical Ulsterman,

His Grace thanks you for correcting him on the spelling of William McCrea's name. But however many MPs the DUP have in the next parliament, it will be more than the UUP.

25 November 2009 at 11:05  
Blogger ukipwebmaster said...

Wot? No Nigel Farage?

25 November 2009 at 11:07  
Blogger Costello said...

Iain Paisley as Europe Secretary? Christ almighty what a glorious world that would be.

25 November 2009 at 11:08  
Blogger Hank Petram said...

Your Grace,

Europe Secretary – Ian Paisley

That'll be fun to watch.
If it happens.

25 November 2009 at 11:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iain Paisley as Euro sec? Nah, nothing compared to D.Singh as Europe Secretary.

25 November 2009 at 11:12  
Blogger FABVirgil said...

Lord Lavatory

No is the simple answer to that one. The Tories are plain and simple usless - usless as an oposition party and scary as a government. They are obsessed with one single thing - and as it has already been proven, they don't even have any clue about that either.

If you are deluded into thinking that they will make any diference to you and your Incapacity Benifits, then you will not be disapointed, mainly because they will not form the next government anyway. They have no clue. The biggest set of bumbling jackasses have made them look bigger ones for years.

25 November 2009 at 11:23  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace, it would appear that FABVirgil is loosing the argument. He has to resort to childish remarks like Lord Lavetory. I can only assume he is a victim of labour's educational system and is not capable of an intelligent or erudite argument.

25 November 2009 at 11:27  
Blogger FABVirgil said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

25 November 2009 at 11:28  
Blogger Hank Petram said...

Your Grace may be too young to remember it, but a hung parliament was the outcome of a general election in February 1974. Consequently a second election was held 32 weeks later, resulting in a narrow overall majority for Labour.

Date ……. 28 Feb. …… 10 Oct.
Lab. …….….. 301 ………. 319
Con. ……….. 297 ……….. 277
Others ……..... 37 …….….. 39
Total ……..… 635 ………. 635

Presumably a hung parliament in 2010 would once again be followed by a second general election a few months later.

25 November 2009 at 11:32  
Anonymous Knighthawk said...

All this excitement over the result of one opinion poll.
Close fought elections rarely deliver a hung parliament at Westminster. It has only happened once in the last 50 years.
Lets see if other polls confirm the findings before exhilaration or panic sets in.

25 November 2009 at 11:32  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

True enough Mr Kinghthawk and Mr Petram, but the past 50 years has seen a weakening of the two party system, towards a multi party one- which will only be more pronounced if the liberals had their way and introduced PR- look at the Euro elections.

Because the first past the post system is best with 2 large parties, it produces strange results when you have, say, 4 or 5 parties in contention- a few votes for the liberals or UKIP or the BNP could swing the election to labour.

Also, labour have managed to gerrymander seats in their favour, which does not help. Put it this way the tories need to win about 40% of the vote to win a majority of 1.

Yet labour won last time with 35%of votes cast and a majority approaching 60. Doesn't that say a lot about how labour have manipulated seats in their favour?

25 November 2009 at 11:43  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

A hung parliament; then civil war in the Conservative Party - and then the man who will rule this country with a rod of iron will emerge.

But wait! One more jigsaw-piece?

Crown Prince Charles King!

God save the country!

25 November 2009 at 12:43  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

@ FAB Virgil

My dearest, Sir, on His Grace's blog we all endeavour (even if we don't always succeed) to try to at least make the pretense of being reasonable and civilized human beings.

From your multitudinous postings today, it's fairly plain that you don't like
a) His Grace
b) The Tory party
c) anyone who disagrees with your views

Fair enough, but why all the abuse and the vitriol? We don't need that, here. Life is too short. Please, by all means, make your points, on the assumption that anyone is interested in them, but perhaps you might do it in a more polite fashion?

Others of us, including me, may have our own views on your politics, but we don't need to bellow at you in an abusive fashion say so

Cordially yours
Old Grumpy

25 November 2009 at 13:03  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

Sounds like we could be looking to a D.Singh premiership then?

25 November 2009 at 13:04  
Blogger Don't Call Me Dave said...

I quite like the idea of a hung Parliament involving a large quantity of rope and lamp posts!

25 November 2009 at 13:07  
Anonymous John Le Mesuier said...

"A hung parliament; then civil war in the Conservative Party - and then the man who will rule this country with a rod of iron will emerge.

But wait! One more jigsaw-piece?

Crown Prince Charles King!

D. Singh, what does all of the above mean? It would help if you didn't speak in riddles all the time.

25 November 2009 at 13:10  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Bag Lady,

Mr Singh has neither the wit nor the wisdom (nor a good tongue to speak with)to govern this great nation.

God has another role for me.

25 November 2009 at 13:12  
Anonymous Philip said...

LibDem in Government would be a calamity for this country (and would a Tory/LibDem coalition with them split the Tories?)

HG's suggested coaltion with the DUP giving a government with genuine conservative values would be a dream-cabinet! A couple of small caveats: would Jeffrey Donaldson preferable to Dominic Grieve as Justice Secretary?? and as someone else suggested, invite how about ukip into the coalition too? Also perhaps the post of Europe Secretary should be renamed "EU-withrawal negotiations secretary"!!

25 November 2009 at 13:12  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

"EU-withrawal negotiations secretary"!!

As said before, an ideal job for D.Singh. Once he has done that I am sure a greatful nation will reward him with the title Viscount Singh.

25 November 2009 at 13:13  
Blogger D. Singh said...

John Le Mesuier

Why would a prince called Charles be afraid of his own name?

Have you not been following His Grace's posts?

25 November 2009 at 13:14  
Anonymous Philip said...

(reposted to make grammatical sense!)

LibDem in Government would be a calamity for this country (and would a Tory/LibDem coalition split the Tories?)

HG's suggested coaltion with the DUP giving a government with genuine conservative values would be a dream-cabinet! A couple of small caveats: would Jeffrey Donaldson preferable to Dominic Grieve as Justice Secretary?? and as someone else suggested, how about inviting ukip into the coalition too (should they win seats)? Also perhaps the post of Europe Secretary should be renamed "EU-withrawal negotiations secretary"!!

25 November 2009 at 13:15  
Anonymous John Le Mesuier said...

No I am a new reader D.Singh, perhaps a summary from you for a new reader?

25 November 2009 at 13:16  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

"If you are deluded into thinking that they will make any diference to you and your Incapacity Benifits, then you will not be disapointed,"

FABVIRGIL, Why do you assume that Lord Lavendon is on Incapacity benefits ?

25 November 2009 at 13:19  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

"Mr Singh has neither the wit nor the wisdom (nor a good tongue to speak with)to govern this great nation.God has another role for me."

Ah, Mr Singh is too modest. But yes, your role will be in negociating the withdrawl of Britain from the EU?

25 November 2009 at 13:21  
Anonymous Grex. said...

No one who has spent any time in Northern Ireland would wish any of their bitter, narrow-minded sectarian politicians on the mainland.

The Northern Irish individually are charming and hospitable. Their political leadership are mostly carrion. It is still a divided society and an economic basket case.

POssibly your post was a little mischevious your grace, but brining any of that inecpt lot over here would be a blazing torches and pitchforks moment.

25 November 2009 at 13:27  
Anonymous no nonny said...

DCmD: great definition of a hung parliament!!! I agree that what we need is to sack the lot, and replace them with representatives for the British People.

Much support for D. Singh here!! However, I'm entirely against negotiation with the evil entity.

We need a Minister who'll tell the Enemy to Get Out of Britain. Not a Secretary of their own making who says 'how high' when they say 'jump' - or who accepts their terms or rules in any discussion!!

25 November 2009 at 13:39  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

Your Grace,
I certainly wouldn't mind Vince Cable being Chancellor of the Exchequer in a coalition Government. In my view he is the best choice of Chancellor out of all the three main parties.

25 November 2009 at 15:04  
Anonymous Caliquo Jones said...

D.Singh is very quiet today. Is he OK ?

25 November 2009 at 15:11  
Blogger Hank Petram said...

@Lord Lavendon,

What, never again an absolute majority? From now on nothing but hung parliaments and coalition governments?

25 November 2009 at 15:13  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Your Grace, the potential for a hung parliament (I prefer the piano wire option) is the bad place you arrive at when you tell 60 million plus people that you, a PR wallah, knows what is best when it comes to the EU. Cameron is discovering how fragile his lead in the polls is.

It doesn't help that the Shadow Chancellor is wittering on about the green credentials of the Tories and how much CO2 is going to be reduced at the cost of our economy after the climate alarmist genie escaped thanks to the CRUgate whistleblower.

How out of touch with reality are these people who would rule us?

25 November 2009 at 15:24  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Mr Petram, no I don't think that. But the electoral system which worked to the Tories advantage in days gone by now works against them; e.g.

1) Northern Ireland, Wales, Scotland all have a smaller number of voters per seat than England and in turn Southern Rural shires (Tory) have a larger amount of voters per seat than the northern 'rotten boroughs' of the new labour north.

2) Tactical voting amongst the left has made it easier for a liberal or a labour person to hold off a challenge from the Tories, in some key seats (e.g. south west of England).

I suspect that voters would tire of coalitions and horse-trading; eventually one party will become dominant again. The first past the post system usually brings a decisive conclusion; unlike the liberal idea of PR-, which would see British politics descend into a European style, smoke filled rooms and party horse-trading.

Thankfully we are not in a situation like Canada which has a first past the post system, but a political landscape like Europe, with 3 or 4 parties in contention and has resulted in a few ‘hung’ Parliaments over there; although this could happen if the SNP ever got to a position like the Bloc Quebecois have in Canada.

I think it was Mr Knighthawk who said the hung parliaments are rare. And hopefully they still will be.

25 November 2009 at 15:30  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Bag Lady, I can confirm that I am not on incapacity benefits,so I have no idea why FABvirgil said that. I think he is one of the few liebour loyalists left. So therefore he is just the right side of sane.

25 November 2009 at 15:34  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose in answer to D.Singh's question about Prince Charles, the other kings crowned charles were not very good ? And one got their head chopped off ? Is that the answer or is it to do with the EU, the book of Revelation. the book of Daniel and the second coming?

25 November 2009 at 15:51  
Anonymous TUV ARE LUNDIES said...


25 November 2009 at 16:06  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

What is the TUV and what is a Lundies?

25 November 2009 at 16:08  
Anonymous Gay Anglican said...

What is Lord Lavetory on about now ? He is almost as bad as Singh.

25 November 2009 at 16:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There will be a hung parliament, not just because of Labour’s treason in deliberately engineering a mass invasion of grateful new British citizens and the formation of armies of benefit recipients and loyal civil servants, but because Cameron abandoned traditional Conservative voters in the same way Blair/Brown abandoned the working class. Acceptance of the EU constitution, for that is what it is, is the final straw. For the first time in my life I will not be voting Conservative at a general election. Yet, to retrieve the situation, all the Conservatives have to do is pledge to:

1. Withdraw from the EU, for there is no alternative as the constitution cannot be renegotiated before hell freezes over.

2. Immediately repeal all, so-called, human rights legislation.

3. Regain control of our own borders with the immediate deportation of all illegal immigrants, foreign criminals and terrorists, and a permanent end to immigration and the asylum swindle.

Now, which party should I, as an ex-Conservative voter, place my cross against in the voting booth do you think? No, it will not be UKIP.

25 November 2009 at 16:28  
Anonymous Bring back Thatcher said...

anon at 16.28, I would also add that everyone in the country should be made to speak english as their first language. We should get rid of all the council leaflets which are in a dozen languages and say you are british and therefore should be able to speak and read the langugage of this country, if you want to claim your benefits etc.

25 November 2009 at 16:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does the EU have the power to appoint a UK prime minister?

25 November 2009 at 16:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idea of a hung parliament does appeal.

All of the present thieves and liars dangling at the end of a rope. Obviously the lords/ladies would be allowed silk scarves to prevent chaffing by the rope, the mps would just have to accept the chaffing.

25 November 2009 at 16:55  
Anonymous GTGTWG said...

@ D. Singh...

“Mr Singh has neither the wit nor the wisdom (nor a good tongue to speak with) to govern this great nation.”

I beg to differ! Could Britain sink any further into the depths of despair? She's on her knees...You could not do any worse than the successive failures of the Con and Labour governments D. Singh. Even I, as a humble hairdresser could not do any worse than these so called educated nincompoops! I will be your PA, and together we can try to put the G back in GB by taking the GB out of the EU...and of course make a start on the many other issues that are currently disastrous for this nation. Cranmer would make a good foreign secretary…anything foreign to Christianity would be kept out, or at least at bay;-)

25 November 2009 at 16:58  
Blogger D. Singh said...

John Le Mesuier,

Forgive me for not replying earlier. Another round of meetings today.

Prince Charles will refuse to be crowned King Charles III because of what happened during the English Civil War and then to his son, King Charles II.

Even though a king may change his name - I believe his destiny is to preside over a bitterly divided kingdom.

For an outstanding work on the Civil War the bets I have read is The Tyrannicide Brief by Geoffery Robertson Q.C.

Though written by a lawyer it is accessible to the layman.

25 November 2009 at 17:13  
Blogger D. Singh said...

That is what happened to King Charles Is son.

25 November 2009 at 17:18  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace,

I am somewhat taken aback by people wishing me to be in government. They are such a kind people.

If only we had put the people first and had been their servants - God would have smiled upon us.

Your Grace, you say that, 'While a hung parliament may the worst of all worlds, there is surely a lesser evil.'

The error lies not with our people. The error lies with Mr Cameron. He wrongly assumed that the people were inferior to the Party.

He had a choice over the Lisbon Treaty: either split the Conservative Party or the Electorate.

He split the Electorate.

Still, my lord, this nation set in the silver sea is in God's hands - and I do not look forward to the 'brother v brother' war in the Conservative Party.

25 November 2009 at 17:54  
Anonymous Ruth said...

Well if Cameron has got any sense he will give D.Singh a Peerage and make him a minister in his government.

25 November 2009 at 19:10  
Blogger Tommy 3 Lions said...

Lets just hang parliament.

25 November 2009 at 19:49  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Mr D. Singh is humble before the nation and before God. Which is why he deserves a place at the top table of our governmnent. Whilst I find his cryptic messages difficult to understand his heart is in the correct place. God bless you Mr D. Singh.

25 November 2009 at 21:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading through some of the comments, I think that D.Singh has already earned at least a knighthood. Upon his appointment to government, I would recommend he is given at least the lower rank of the Peerage. Arise Sir D.Singh Baron of Oxford!

25 November 2009 at 21:51  
Blogger DiscoveredJoys said...

Her Maj could always ask Cameron to be Prime Minister of England and tell the other parts of a Once Great Britain to sort themselves out.

25 November 2009 at 22:47  
Anonymous Bob said...

Bah, you're just biased - I thought you were better than a totally partisan tory mouthpiece

After the expenses scandal and an all time low in voter confidence, the will for electoral reform is there, the tories have shown they have little to offer and that is why they have failed to grab the nation successfully, not that a hung parliament is that likely..

You can of course say what you want, but I was under the impression you were a slightly more insightful commentator rather than a mere cheerleader for the tories - this sort of writing does nothing to sway me to your point of view

(and I do find it amusing that you support a gerrymandered system, but only when it favours you over labour)

25 November 2009 at 23:34  
Anonymous Bob said...

D. Singh

I'm not sure what you believe happened to Charles II - he was a pretty successful, popular king - it was his idiot brother James II who was run out of the country

I suspect Charles will avoid his own name for George VII because of Charles I's beheading and the royals are a superstitious bunch, but nothing happened to Charles II

25 November 2009 at 23:38  
Blogger jailhouselawyer said...

What with Red Tory, and there was a passing reference to Blue Labour...

Where is Labour in your hung Parliament?

26 November 2009 at 01:14  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Charles II was not popular with Protestants.

He executed one of England’s greatest lawyers: John Cooke (who prosecuted Charles I).

The English do not remember their lawyer who is revered around the world. It was he, Master John Cooke, who terminated the doctrine: Head of State immunity.

It was not until the twentieth century that the doctrine was again challenged by the British. Lloyd George said: ‘Hang the Kaiser.’ Had they hanged him, Hitler might have paused.

In 1946 the US Supreme Court confirmed Cooke’s ‘command responsibility’ principle in relation to Japanese generals.

In 2001 Slobodan Milosevic used the same defence as Charles I refusing to plead either guilty or not guilty upon the ground that the court had been unlawfully established.

When Saddam Hussein stepped into the dock he used identical language to that of Charles I: ‘By what authority do you put me on trial?’

Why does this nation not honour its heroes?

26 November 2009 at 09:01  
Anonymous Philippa Latimer said...

I think the talk of a hung parliament is about to kick the Lib Dems polling ratings into touch.

26 November 2009 at 11:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Willie McCrae - described by Seamus Mallon as the village idiot of NI politics. Wonder how anti-abotion DUP man at Health would go down with the Cameroons, esp the new intake of women?

Back to the drawing board, Your Grace

26 November 2009 at 22:01  
Anonymous iliw said...

Sammy Wilson as Environment Secretary - that's interesting enough in Stormont seeing as how he isn't totally convinced on climate change. To say nothing of letting "The Apprentice Boy" be the Transport Secretary. Well he is well known for his ability to walk long marches, including along Derry's Walls, and the urge to jump ship if necessary so it would certainly be interesting. And as for "Singing" McCrea, dear help us...

8 December 2009 at 14:07  
Blogger Greg Dance said...

So who here has really got a clue about the operating of a balanced (hung) parliament? No one I suspect because we haven't had one in modern history. But we certainly have had;
rabid right wing monetarism, destruction of manufacturing to gratify Maggie's political lustings, then a sweet illusion that Tony boy Blair and GB had magically found the real solution to Tory boom/bust economics. Nearly made it happen for 10 years then ... bust, their greedy associates in the golden mile crapped on us all and crashed the dream. So that's two magical revolutions with absolute majorities and two crashed and disgraced ideologies .. both were tainted with dirty shadowy business and private mega-rich supporters operating in the shadows.
Many of the electorate are sick of the continued abuse of our trust by these cynical truth estranged degenerate politicians!
Its time for real democracy in this sad old woman of parliaments, we need the balance offered by mature debate that can only exist if no overall majority exists. Hang the parliament for real democracy!

21 April 2010 at 19:45  

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