Sunday, November 22, 2009

Van Rompuy's tax plans

Cranmer was going to talk about the 20-minute meeting the Archbishop of Canterbury had with the Pope yesterday. But it hardly seems worth it. They have agreed 'to make progress'. That's nice, but there can be none.

Bruno Waterfield today reports on Rompuy-Stiltskin's plans for an EU-wide tax, and he has not yet even been installed / enthroned / confirmed, or whatever they intend to do with presidents of Europe.

It appears that both presidents (Rompuy and Barroso) want a new 'Euro tax' (to be drawn from a fixed percentage of VAT and fuel duties).

But here's the interesting bit, which will delight the Bilderberg conspiracy advocates no end:

'Mr Van Rompuy has not set out in detail exactly which tax raising mechanisms he favours most, but after the Bilderberg meeting his spokesman said he would look favourably on either green taxes or a version of the Tobin Tax, originally proposed in 1972 by the US economist James Tobin as a tax on currency speculation.'

And the President disclosed his strategy for attaining high office. He told colleagues a few weeks ago that to achieve a top EU function you must 'not ask for high office, but become a grey mouse, and offers will come'.

Tony Blair's problem was in being a prancing peacock displaying all the colours of the rainbow. The EU prefers grey mice: no-one is interested in watching them; they are uninteresting vermin.

With an EU-wide tax at the forefront of Van Rompuy's manifesto, any hope that David Cameron had of keeping 'Europe' off the agenda for the election campaign and during his first few years of government is in vain. Our President has designs on our national taxation, and neither our Prime Minister nor our Queen can do very much at all about it.

Perhaps Mr Cameron might be invited to a Bilderberg gathering.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no hope for progress in relations between the CofE and the RC Church, if only because the former is now little more than a social club. There are, of course, very devout members of the CofE, but they have been extraordinarily badly served by the episcopacy.

The EU suffers from a similar affliction. There are people who truly believe in the idea of Europe -- a special civilization. However, given the terms of LIsbon and the likes of the new president and his sidekick, one sees how shoddily that "faith" has been betrayed.

22 November 2009 at 10:33  
Blogger Gnostic said...




When will our idiot politicians finally get it?????????

22 November 2009 at 11:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No taxation without representation"

could be a new, catchy, slogan...

22 November 2009 at 11:39  
Blogger Demetrius said...

Render unto Caesar?

22 November 2009 at 12:02  
Anonymous tiredandemotional said...

I feel, suddenly, very small, and very tired. I'm sure some nuliebour twit was on Newsnight the other day, defending the fact that we didn't get a say in these appointments on the grounds that these nobodies weren't supposed to be policy-makers. I've been a little busy this week (chasing water) so I've lost track of exactly when the appointments were confirmed; can anyone enlighten me as to just how long that principle was maintained? I mean, I always knew it was only a matter of time before the position became a policy-making one, but I thought they might at least pretend for a while....

22 November 2009 at 12:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you'll find it's George Osborne who's the Bilderberg regular.

22 November 2009 at 12:25  
Anonymous Debi Johnson said...

They will all be sorry when Jesus comes back! Why is He coming back anyways? I thought it was all nailed down the first time. Oh yeah I remember, He is coming to do some brutal ethnic cleansing the next time.

I can't wait to See that beast cast into the abyss. I wonder if it will be breaking news on Sky News? Will we still pray, or will there be a call center in Bangladesh or something? Who cares anyway, so long as the beast is in the Abyss with all those dirty sinners I am not bothered.

The last time He was here He had this prime directive thing where He could not interfere directly so to speak, I hope this will not be the case next time. If He thinks He can come back and sacrifice Himself again, all I can say is watch out for that Tony Blair - "Two faced bastard"!

I would love to be a fly on the wall when He gets it on with Popey. Will He come back as a Lorry Driver or something, and keep us all guessing again, or will He be like some kind of cosmic Harry Potter?

We will just have to wait and see I suppose. I can't see the point in all this waiting myself, it's not like anything is changing is it? We are getting worse by the day if you want my opinion.

When I was a kid, I kept Gerbils in my dad's shed. It was quite something to behold. I had a brilliant little community going in there. They all had happy structured lives, plenty of food and water, and very luxurious living accommodation with lots of things to keep them busy. I fail to see how God thinks that it is a good idea to keep humans on this planet all running around like wild rats. Just seems to me like He's locked the shed door and fucked off...I could be wrong, I hope I am wrong.

22 November 2009 at 12:33  
Blogger King Athelstan said...

I heard what the tiresome windbag Lord Kinnock had to say on this, apparently millions of people from different countries voting on a president would be chaos. Translation,they wouldn't like what they got.

22 November 2009 at 13:07  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Wot Mrs. Gnostic sez. Say BOO to brussels. And say much worse things to ole Rumpy should he presume to cross the water.

I mean, are we supposed to be impressed that 55bn a year's not enough for the poncing, prancing, posturing euros? [39 mill a day]. Such high standards of robbery and disdain for the victim ~~ they're intended to show the real meaning of ... what?

As I recall, both the English Reformation and the American Revolution discontinued payment of taxes to alien powers. And our forefathers weren't paying anything like the above - either to el papa or King George. So why's it all right for us, all of a sudden?

I say the euSSR should get out of Britain.

22 November 2009 at 13:08  
Anonymous len said...

Debi Johnson,

I`ve seen the enemy and its us.
We locked the shed door from the inside, that`s why Jesus stands outside and knocks.

22 November 2009 at 14:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I protest! I didn't vote for Rompuy to raise my taxes!

22 November 2009 at 15:29  
Anonymous Knighthawk said...

The shady world of relativism is excellent camouflage
for a greedy grey mouse.

22 November 2009 at 16:22  
Anonymous IanCad said...

"Our President" So it has come to this? The United States of Europe. To those who have embraced this disarming analogy it should be pointed out that when several countries (Yes! countries) left that union they were immediately attacked by the larger group. Such will be the fate of the UK unless immediate steps are taken to halt any further amalgamation with the EU.

22 November 2009 at 16:42  
Anonymous not a machine said...

A description of tax , I was reliably told , was a small wheel operating off a large wheel to provide somthing that the large wheel alone could not .

yet this seems to be a huge wheel operating off many smaller ones , previously in sovereign hands that in the UKs case have been conivingly incorporated .

Pragmatists say we wish to trade with Europe and we must not make the foolish step of complete withdrawal , yet the whole project may be foolish , there is no belief that small serves all , big appears to be beautiful .

The case for out has good stability arguments , even if it looses to the growth arguments of manufactured goods .

Whilst a peacfull destiny for Europe and the world is a noble cause , the case for spura ecnomic rule is a large mincing device with little belief of in the choices of quality over profit .

You would expect the weaker arguments to come forward as there is some doubt over what sort of economy we actually have now and out of the EU looks too lean a meal.

should we be scared of the two teir threat ?? not a bit of it economics that is money centric can be challenged , wealth and money are two seperate things .

The oppresive control of your wealth is the socialist dogma , for in the end all but the ruling elite must be oppressed that is what is so worrying about how centralised everything has become .

We will have to see how the weakness proceses.

22 November 2009 at 17:00  
Blogger Preacher said...

It's all been a scam from the very start, from the serpent Ted Heath who lied us into a 'common market' to the latest so called president, presiding over how much of our money,lives & Country they can escape with next.
This did not just happen, it did not evolve. It was planned a long time ago. By avaricious men who are in high positions. Illuminati or Bilderbergers, call them what you like. This is no 'theory', it's fact.
Bloomberg newsagency reported on the 10th of July: Russian president Dmitry Medvedev illustrated his call for a supranational currency to replace the Dollar by pulling a sample coin of a 'united future world currency' from his pocket,"Here it is" he told reporters in L'Aquilla Italy after a G8 summit "You can see it & touch it". The coin which bears the legend "unity in diversity", was minted in Belgium & presented to the heads of the G8 delegations, Medvedev said the question of a supranational currency "concerns everyone now, even the mints", the sample coin
"means they're getting ready".

Next is the mark of the beast. When Biblical prophecies start being fulfilled in detail before ones own eyes, the first reaction is disbelief, "it can't be true, it's like a science fiction film". But how long can you safely ignore the obvious? open your eyes & look, it's happening now!
It's time to decide who you support, The devil or the Lord Jesus Christ, either way it's going to be rough but the outcome is certain, Heaven or Hell, forget purgatory, it doesn't exist, the ticket is one way & it lasts forever.
Choose carefully.

22 November 2009 at 17:50  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is D Singh? We miss his imput into this blog!

22 November 2009 at 18:51  
Anonymous Bag Lady said...

No taxation without representation !! It is time for the UK to pull out of the EU once and for all.

22 November 2009 at 18:54  
Anonymous Proud to be in the EU said...

i am unable to see what is wrong with paying taxes to our government. Oh how wonderful it is to see one nation of Europe, it is a dream of a lifetime !

22 November 2009 at 20:27  
Anonymous Adrian Peirson said...

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22 November 2009 at 21:24  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Pierson,

Please stop using His Grace's blog as an automatic hyperlink to your particular predilections. Thank you.

22 November 2009 at 22:29  
Blogger ultramontane grumpy old catholic said...

Herman Van Rompuy is a made up name. No-one could be called Herman Van Rompuy.

But there is an uncanny resemblance between Herman Van Rompuy and Graeme Garden of the Goodies and panelist in "I'm sorry I haven't a clue", seen here with Humphrey Littleton in a snippet from the show

Therefore the Goodies must have taken over the EU.

But shouldnt Tim Brouke-Taeleur be Lord High Person for Foreign Affaires and Willem Odd D'huy be secretary for bearded wonders - with special responsibility for negotiating with the Taliban?

Has anybody noticed an increase of three person tandems (trandems?) appearing in Brussels?

(Your Grace's communicants, who have not the privilege of being one of Her Britannic Majesty's subjects may find this all a bit bizarre)

22 November 2009 at 23:46  
Blogger Evan said...

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23 November 2009 at 16:33  
Anonymous Ian Thorpe said...

Did you catch this video on the Dan Hannan's blog for the Telegraph . It's worse than integrated taxes, this guy is talking about global govrnance. With Obama in that camp to it look as if we all nedd to start getting angry very soon.

Today The EU, Tomorrow The World

23 November 2009 at 20:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us not forget that a little grey mouse from Azerbaijan called Soso Djugashvili was "elected" to the post of Secretary of the Party after the death of Lenin. Lenin couldn't even spell the man's name!
That man, for those who are not in the know, turned after a mere twenty years, into Stalin.

24 November 2009 at 09:53  

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