Nigel Farage: “I don’t want to be rude, but...”
With the news that Speaker Bercow has been reported to the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards for allegedly using the apolitical Office of The Speaker to operate his re-election campaign for Buckingham via 'The Friends of Speaker Bercow', Nigel Farage might well have a little jaunt in his step.
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Go Farage! In a beating the pants of Bercow way of course...
Your Grace Roumpy reminds me of Chancellor Palpatine from the star wars films. Is he really a dark Lord of the Sith? And were are Yoda and Obi Wan?
Clearly Farage must show more respect to our head of state the President of Europe.
Farage is a legend!!
who was the ranting german? Thought it was Nuremberg all over again. Wheres the books to be burned?
Terrible that this man is so rude. He should be more reverent to the president of europe and leader of our country.
That German fellow needs a better translator. Farage did not compare Van Rumpy-Pumpy to a wet rag; he compared his charisma to that of a wet rag.
I think the Wet Rag party should feel insulted.
Seriously, Farage's wonderful tirade contained enough invective to enable his opponents to pretend not to notice the real substance, which was the complete absence of democracy from V R-P's appointment.
But Farage should be careful what he wishes for. Does he, and do we, want a directly elected President of the EU? If so, we would be moving even closer to becoming one country.
In the meantime, my decision to give my general election vote to UKIP has been confirmed and strengthened by the Farage performance. Though more earthy and less subtle than Hannan's famous You-Tube demolition of Brown in the same chamber, at least with Farage we know exactly what he and his party stand for.
And that's what we want.
Sorry: damp rag and the Damp Rag party.
Parliament ought to pass a law requiring the Speaker to wear customary apparel, including full-length judicial wig, court shoes, gown etc.
Bercow is an utter disgrace to his Office. The man is contemptible.
Your Grace,
Farage may throw the odd insult but what is he actually achieving,he is still milking the taxpayer,still rubbing shoulders with the distant elite enjoying all the perks and comforts...is he privy to their plots and schemes...no I think not.
What he does is raise his own profile out our expense by being an occasional irritant to the Brussels mob.
Words,insults,waffle and still our liberties and traditions are eroded.
Pointless,I suspect if UKIP where actually elected into a real position of power here suddenly their anti-europe stance would be severely watered down to become meaningless.
Farage is a self-promoting used lavatory brush
(and that's his good side)
wv: tudefull
And Jermy Hyatt is a socialist guardian reader (and that's his good side).
We need more men like Farage in parliament! Why can't CallmeDave be more like him?
What is wrong with looking like a bank clerk?
what is wrong with the EU? Nothing! The EU kept the peace during the cold war, helped to bring it to an end and provides security and peace for britain now. the next thing to do is to join the euro.
It's about time!
Good old Farage - the only gripe I have with him is that he no longer rhymes his name with baggage.
But it's good to see we English being bloody rude to foreigners who are trying to take us over.
Farage is in a great English tradition: I wonder how many votes UKIP has taken from the Tories out of this. Maybe they balance out the bank clerk votes he's lost.
Enjoyable !
your grace if he has time may wish Mr Melvin Braggs discussion on radio4 this morning , some decent theology was discussed .
Blimey we are all agreed!
Farage is a great
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Farage is rude. Period.
Dear meeeeeeeee.....
Some spelling lessons needed Mr Terrett (sic)
Or even Ferett (excuse the lack of proofreading).
What shocking ignorance Mr Anonymous:
"The EU kept the peace during the cold war, helped to bring it to an end and provides security and peace for Britain now."
The EU did nothing of the kind.
In fact the EU was not even in being during the Cold War, it was merely the EEC, and at that stage primarily a mere customs union and economic group.
The peace of course, was kept by the nuclear deterrent, NATO, and the strength of the Atlantic Alliance.
Keeping the peace - the EU? As famously said of the Pope - How many divisions has he?
Entertaining!
Hilarious!
Serious points made.
We need more like Farage.
But ... insults are not the way, even against your enemies.
I mean I hate to raise this here, but its a class thing, isn't it?
Farage is an English public schoolboy who thinks ordinary people, or people who look ordinary, should be nowhere near power and as Van Rompuy is evidently not clubbable, he should not hold office.
What is braying rudeness does for Britain's image in the world I dread to think.
Does anybody buy Farage? He's full of it. This is just a sidetrack show. Isn't he involved in the EU pensions swindle? And why is he still a part of British politics after the expenses scandal? He was the biggest swindler of all. Something very fishy going on here YG! Makes me wonder why you've even posted this?
If you want to genuinly crticise the EU this is not the way to do it. Farage makes all Euro "skeptics" look like yobs, shouting, calling people "rags". It makes them look weak, like they have no legitmate argument so they resort to personal attacks. I think the best way to criticse it, is make people realise the EU's flaws, with fine rhetoric and supported by evidence. Only then people will take you seriosly. Thats why I prefer Hannan
Or this could actually be my name, so no spelling errors. You guardian reading types are smug. But what should we expect when it is you liberal types that have brought the UK and the European nations to the brink with your 'one EU' socialist dream, which flies in the face of all economic reality?
To the guy who suggested that it is a class thing and to the person who plumbs for Hannah, good as he is, he does not communicate as well as farage. Hannah comes up with long winded reasons for opposing the EU and is pretty poor when connecting to the man on the street.
Plus he is in a party which wants the federal super state and cannot be trusted on europe due to the so -called "cast iron" guarentee. No wonder the tories are sliding in the polls. They treat the core support with contempt, ditch all conservative values in the pursuit of power.
Which is why the do not deserve it. Hung Parliament here we come.
Truthseeker said...
'...Farage makes all Euro "skeptics" look like yobs, shouting, calling people "rags"...'
If you had listened to what Farage said, he did not call anybody a 'rag'. He said that Van Rumpy-Pumpy had the charisma of a damp rag.
Also, it may sometimes have been necessary to raise his voice a bit when others were trying to shout him down.
If you are going to call yourself Truthseeker, you might begin by sticking to the facts.
And why would 'rags' (from Farage) be bad but 'yobs' (from you) be acceptable?
Cast Iron Tories... With a hung parliament, Brown can stay there for quite a while longer.
And all you Farage suporters -- you all moaned like crazy when we had a pretty boy as PM -- now you're coming the old acid about Rumpy-Pumpy's LOOKS?
This is just bitching.
BTW, I'm neither Lib, Lab or Con, distrusting every single one of the bastards equally. Apart from Mandelson. He's head over shoulders above the rest.
As I understood the Chairman (or whatever his formal title is) it is in order to call a group of people Nazis, but not to call an individual a wet rag. Clearly then Mr, Farage would have been in order to describe the commission as a whole as Nazis. Since the bulk of them are socialist, then according to Hayek this is a reasonable approximation to the truth.
Pat, he didn't call any individual a wet rag. He compared Van Rumpy-Pumpy's charisma to that of a damp rag.
That's the third and last time I've said that.
Anabaptist, he may not have directly called him a rag but he still made uncalled-for personal attacks, on his charisma and apperance. Is this really politics? Surely, the emphasis of the argument should of more politcal matters rather than of the president's appearance and charisma. I am in no way supporting Von Rompuy, im just Farage's criticism was weak. Also, I call my self a "truthseeker", as I am seeking the truth, so therefore I appreciate your criticms
Your Grace
It used to be said, in this island that is set in the silver sea: for evil to triumph it takes good men to remain silent.
Your Grace - with Mr Farage - we have enough good men.
This people will be free one day.
Aye!
And Your Grace - we shall ring the church's bells!
Sweet liberty!
@anon 15:30
Oh, dear me, this eu propaganda old chestnut raises its ugly head again. Twice on this blog in the past 6 months, probably the same person, of course.
The eu keep the peace during the cold war? And pigs, also, fly.
Nato, dear brothers and sisters, is what kept the peace during the cold war. The fledgling eu was in no position to keep any peace....still isn't, actually, because it hasn't (yet) an army.
Don't bother to take my word for it, just check your history books and work out the dates for yourself.
I guess it's the usual case here that if you say something long enough, people will believe it. That's what Adolf used to say, apparently
PS sorry for responding to Anonymice, your Grace
Your Grace
Looks like the eu trolls are back on site, Your Grace
I presume that european socialist and Edward Heath English Hero are the same person, given the similarity of the postings.
Actually, all they've said is a repeat of previous posts from past months.
I repeat my offer to sprinkle salt in Salisbury cathedral on traitor Heath's tomb, however, in the nicest possible way (and I'll even sweep up afterwards)
Go for it, Nigel!
Oh what a Faragio! Super stuff, unless that is, you are the above ''anonymous''; in which case I suggest that you need to realign your alpha rhythms to their default state, and start again!
Mr Truthseeker, I appreciate your moderate response. As a general rule I think you are right to decry personal insult as part of political discourse.
In this case, however, much of Farage's personal reference was justified. This is because it was said beforehand that the 'President of Europe' would be a person of charisma. He would need to be such a personality as would 'stop the traffic'. He would need to be well-known and highly regarded. Van Rompuy fits none of these descriptions, and thus demonstrates that his appointment was a back-room deal made without regard to the qualities that had been called upon to justify the office in the first place.
Farage's point, then, made in an appropriately colourful way, was that by any measure, Van Rompuy is wholly unfitted for the role in which he has been cast. The role depends on personal characteristics and it should therefore be admissable to criticise the office holder on that basis.
Finally, none of this negates my original point that Farage did not call Van Rompuy a rag, so it is not truthful to say that he did.
Look, Hitler had charisma. We have enough bloody charisma in politics and enough emphasis on how it is said rather than what is said.
Farrage is a buffoon.
So what if Van Rompuy is boring and looks like a bank clerk? The likes of Farrage would be going ballistic if a high profile nominee had got this post, no doubt declaiming this proved a super state power grab. They appoint a techy belgian and Farrage then complains he lacks a high profile.
Who outside Britain has ever heard of bloody Farrage anyway?
Churchill had charisma, and he had it in spades. He did us some good, I think. Attlee, on the other hand, was very competent, but, as Churchill remarked of him, 'an empty taxi drew up, and Clement Attlee stepped out of it.'
We are living with the baleful legacy of the damage done by Attlee's collectivism, his seizure of private assets, his establishment of the welfare state.
To paraphrase, we've had enough of non-charisma in politics.
I agree that there should be greater emphasis on what is said. We suffered a charisma and rhetoric overdose with Blair. But Van Rompuy was supposed to be a great figurehead and leader to represent Europe to the world. In fact, he does that job perfectly.
Anon at 7.40 pm
Looks like your Eurpol handler has let you off the leash this evening?
I was wondering when you would switch from the DT to this.
Welcome, kid.
We always give you Euros a warm reception.
Lads
I have a situation here.
Use your regional slang to test the Euros.
Giv'em a reet good time an' take tak em out for a bevy afterwards. As long as they don't kick yer heed in.
Shibboleth
I dread to think what he would have said if he had intended to be rude.
Truthseeker, class doesn't enter into it. Van Rompuy is far posher than Farage. As for no one in Europe having heard of Nigel, the point is that we don't care whether they have or not. We don't need to impress the French, the Germans or the Greeks. Fortunately for himself, neither does Herman.
WV: sceptio. Excellent.
Ullage
You are a fascist.
Ullage
Nazi.
Ullage
What does it feel like to be part of an elite EU propaganda unit and report to your Europol handler: 'Sir, unable to make progress.'
My five years of training an ya canna break the lingo.
The EU Parliament is a collection of buffoons. But, as is noted by the excitable (not-so-gentle)man in the video, dangerous buffoons.
It is a shame that his characterization of the EU President overshadowed his more important comment that the EU Parliament is the enemy of democracy and national sovereignty amoungsts its member States and perhaps by extension everywhere in the world.
He is but merely a moments entertainment as the leaders of the new Unholy Roman Empire continue to slowly grind their subjects back into the servitude they deserve for letting this monstrosity arise.
Just sayin'
(We Americans have our own price to pay for our foibles.)
Ullage- I didn't mention anyhting about class...
Many are missing the point. He was not particularly rude. I recall someone in the House of Commons once being compared to a dead sheep. Where was all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over that?
Farage was deliberately outspoken. UKIP gets very little oxygen from the mainstream media and had he made a low-key speech, it would have largely gone unreported. As it is, his words have received widespread publicity.
It's called politics and I, for one, am very pleased. He rightly points out that the present-day EU is entirely undemocratic...which is why me must leave.
Simples.
My new apprentice is doing well. Lord Ranpuy will become more powerful than anyone. The readers of this blog must accept the rule of the EU Sith and understand the full power of the dark side of the force!
Your Grace, the people rally round to Farge because they lack any other alternative. Cameron is pledged to the EU golden calf. The socialists would gladly see England abolished into balkanised regions. So who do can the people turn to when their very liberty is under attack?
If people believe I am being OTT, just wait until after the election, when the true horror and cost of the Brown spending binge is shown to the world and the government starts rationing and the economy sinks into the abyss.
Lord Lavendon your powers are nothing compared to the dark side of the force. Who will stop us? You with your top hat and cain? You could not stop a taxi, let alone the rule of the EU Sith. Not even Master Yoda could stop us.But should you want to try, we shall blast you with our force lightning.
what on earth have we got ourselves into in the E U ?
What do we actually get out of it and what have we given up?.
Time to take a long hard look perhaps?
Darth Sidious, your reign is coming to a close. Your faith in dark ideas is misplaced. So it is you who will be blasted.
Ah, Len is another who fails to understand the dark side of the force. Surrender and acknowledge your one true master, the Prince of this world!
Where is Singh? I wait to duel him in a lightsaber battle and crush him beneath my feet!
Truthseeker: sorry, I was confusing you with Anonymous, who thought Farage came over as a bullying public schoolboy.
D.Singh: what what what? Fascist, Nazi? I was slagging off the EUSSR, not praising it. We, as in we the British electorate, do not need to concern ourselves with what the French etc might think of our elected representatives, since it is none of their damn (pace His Grace) business. Van Rompuy, on the other hand, bears the title President of the European Union, one to which he has no defensible claim, so what we think of him is an issue which deserves airing.
Farage was ambushed by the QT loonies last night. What a surprise.
Good to see Farage gave as good as he got though. As for Dimblebore - what a national disgrace.
Your Grace wrote: " ... Nigel Farage might well have a little jaunt in his step."
I speak as a resident of the constituency that will have to make a choice on whether Mr Farage is fit to be our representative in the UK Parliament. I am worried.
In Mr Speaker Bercow we have an MP who changes his political opinions to suit the direction of the wind (or perhaps to suit the political preferences of his wife). It has been clear from the start that he is a greasy pole climber and will use and destroy anything that he needs to in order to reach the top of his chosen pole. For my point about destroy one should consider the reports that most of the local Conservative Party that he inherited from George Walden have left or been shoved out, largely due to the man who draws a salary as Member for Buckingham.
Then have a think about Mr Farage. While his troughing at the EU teat has had less media exposure in the UK (largely because the media considers that the EU can do very little wrong), there have been various allegations that imply EU money has not been used solely and exclusively for his subsistence while in Brussels. The only difference that I can see between the two is that Bercow wishes to climb a greasy pole in harmony with EUrope, whereas Farage says that he wants to climb it outside.
How about the residents of Buckingham have a representative, their representative, in Parliament?
[PS Yes I know about ex-merchant banker John Stevens. He is only going to stand to present a pro-EU voice. His campaign has as much to do with Buckinghamshire democracy as the Campaign for Labour Party Democracy had within Labour. You may remember that the latter "movement" was an entryist tactic to take control of the party from the working man and give it to the elite champagne socialists who currently control it. With his pro-EU credentials, John Stevens' "Buckinghamshire Campaign for Democracy" is about wresting control of the government from the UK citizen, and handing it to the dictators in Brussels.]
"Houston, we have a problem."
Sadly, I think Nigel went a little too far re Belgium
Ullage - I apologise. It's just that I know the EU has hired professional posters to express its views in websites.
Will Your Grace remember Mr Farage in his prayers? I have a monkey on him at 4-1.
Yokel: your wretched position as a Buckingham elector touches all our hearts, but your nation is calling and this is no time for scruples. Put on your rubber gloves, pick up your bargepole, hold your nose and vote UKIP.
Your Grace
Your communicant thinks he sees a chink of light on a number of fronts.
But firstly some advice for Mr Farage. By all means play up, play up and play the game, but do remember to play the ball and not the man. And as the French say, toujours la politesse.
None-the-less, 2010 may yet be a year of famous victories:
1) If there is no Greek bail-out and the Greeks leave the Euro the whole Euroland bloc is threatened and may collapse.
2) Once the German electorate understands the risk to which they are exposed through the Euro they will demand the Deutschmark and/or a smaller currency bloc.
3) The EU itself would fragment the minute the Germans quit the Euro.
4) Slow to anger, the British people are starting to become highly motivated by New Labour's Ethnic Engineering Plan, possibly instigated by the evil elf Jack Straw.
5) William Hague is right to say les Cons will not play the immigration card, they'd only stuff it up.
6) Let the vox-pop run with immigration, there's a sea-change coming in the form of community rejection of third-world/islamic immigration.
7) The humanist heretics have been succesfully denounced by none other than Your Grace.
8) The civil war between Alastair Darling and the Clunking Fist will cripple Labour.
The 2010 vintage is shaping up nicely.
Anon 15:30 First of all I mean no offence but I'm afraid your post is wrong. The EU didn't exist at the height of the cold war and I'll think you will find it was mainly the USA and to a lesser extent us that won the cold war. As for our security, membership of the EU threatens that in my view as we have no control over our borders. Finally, you clearly haven't been following the economic consequences of being in the Euro for those Nations that have Budget deficits similar to ours.
As for the subject matter, Your Grace, I feel too much is being made of Nigels comments in the EU parliament and not enough attention to the issue of non elected Elites. His party is going to get my vote and one of the reasons why is the betrayal of us all by the other parties over the referendum, not to mention immigration.
@GTGTWG 25 February 2010 17:17
Farage has indeed been named in connection with the EU’s ‘secret pension fund’ whereby ‘the European taxpayer contributes €2 for each €1 paid by the recipient, with the MEP’s own personal contributions coming not from their salary but taken automatically from their generous office expenses.’
http://www.neurope.eu/articles/MEPs-spending-spree-forces-paybacks-but-the-names-are-being-kept-secret--/99116.php
Don’t forget Farage boasted that he has made £2 million from the EU, so far. Be under no illusion, Farage is as corrupt and self-serving as any Tory, Labour or Lib-Dim politician.
While UKIP may take some votes from the Tory party one has to realise that UKIP is a party created and controlled by the establishment as a safe and harmless receptacle for that part of the electorate that wish to register an anti-EU protest but are persuaded against voting for the British National Party. The status quo will be preserved with pro-EU Tory, Labour or hung parliaments. Of course, should something backfire and a small party threaten to make even the slightest dent in this cosy arrangement then the first past the post system can be tweaked a little. Witness the headlong rush by all three big parties to give us a referendum on the alternative vote (AV) system but not a referendum on the European constitution.
He said he didn't want to be rude, but he was. He could have expressed the same sentiments politely to much greater effect.
He and Dan Hannan are giving the Brits a reputation for bad manners.
Isn't it funny how a sentence prefixed with the statements
"I don't want to be rude"
Or
"I mean no disrespect/I don't want to be disrespectful"
Invariably end up either being rude or displaying clear disrespect.
Why bother saying them in the first place, just go right ahead and be rude and disrespectful, at the very least it would save time.
got my vote, these people need to know we dont want them, never asked for them and dont need them, they sit in their parliament building their empire but england does not want to be a part of it.
Politics - European or not - needs a rude, attention seeking loudmouth like Farage as much as an eskimo needs ice.
Van Rompuy indeed doesn't have a lot of charisma and his appearance is not exactly that of a film star.
However, the criticism I've seen in the UK press (not only in the tabloids) has been utterly and totally superficial. I'm not Van Rompuy's greatest fan either (to say the least) but he has qualities: he's smart, experienced and not an attention seeker which you would notice if you would be able to look further than his appearance. The criticism I've seen so far (even in the so-called quality press) is so unbelievably superficial with only a few exceptions. Has politics gone so downhill that we can't look beyond an appearance and shouting abuse is seen as "telling it like it is, good on you"?
Besides, Farage could have written that description about himself because he also looks like a bank clerk with zero charisma (unless you consider being rude as charismatic) and nobody in Europe had heard of Farage so what the feck is he on about anyway? The guy just needed to bring attention to himself because an anti-EU populist tends to do well in the UK polls.
Another observation: all I see the majority of people from the UK do about the EU is bitch, whine and moan about it. Nobody is forcing the UK to stay in it. How about cutting to the chase, show some action instead of the endless bitching and actually LEAVE the EU? We don't have to listen to the endless complaining and whining and you get to go your own way: everybody happy.
Talk is cheap.
The European Union was founded long before the UK joint it.
It did exist during the height of the cold war.
The height of the cold war was in the sixties, right? The Bay of Pigs crisis and all that?
The European Union was founded before that.
What's rude, then>
Telling the euros the truth about themselves?
Telling them we know they have cheated, and are cheating, us?
Telling them we don't want to be ruled by them?
Telling them to get lost?
Well said Farage - let them ponce about looking polite all they like. They're far ruder than we are, they just believe in covering it up.
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