Sunday, February 21, 2010

St Gerry of Belfast

When Margaret Thatcher was in power, this man’s voice was not even allowed to be broadcast. But now he is given his own broadcast pulpit on a Sunday evening to preach the gospel to the nation. Yes, the good Catholic boy Gerry Adams is on a journey ‘to discover the real Jesus’ and today he expounds his Christology: the terrorist Jesus; Christus Victor, Dominus Hibernae, Pro Deo, Rege et Patria, Hibernia Unanimis

And the C4 website styles Gerry Adams a ‘politician and supporter of the IRA’.


They make it sound like a home game against Glenavon FC.

He was rather more than a supporter: he was a ‘commanding officer’ – one who leads, has control, formulates strategy, gives orders, exerts authority and ensures obedience and submission.

And he describes himself as an 'Irish Catholic who, despite all the let-downs and scandals that... the Church has been embroiled in, remains a member'.

Re-read that very carefully.

He says he remains a Roman Catholic despite the let-downs and scandals the Church has been embroiled in.

Well, let us hope His Holiness is grateful and honoured by Gerry Adams’ condescension and forbearance.

But how is it that he remains incommunicate with the Roman Catholic Church after ‘all the knee-cappings let-downs and murders scandals that he has ordered been embroiled in’?

How is it that all of Irelands bishops (of which there is a surfeit) never sought to deter him from his murderous pathology by initiating disciplinary proceedings to excommunicate him? Turning a blind eye and covering up paedophilia is one thing. But terrorism, torture and murder?

We are told: ‘Adams explores how Jesus's core message - that of love, forgiveness and advocacy of non-violence - has affected him and other members of his community... As someone who has defended the resort to arms by Republicans in Northern Ireland, he reflects on how he reconciles this with the teachings of Jesus... Equipped with his new knowledge of Jesus, Adams ends by revealing his personal relationship to Jesus's teachings and how they relate to his own life experiences.’

Well, Cranmer can hardly wait.

If Gerry Adams is going to appeal to Augustine or Aquinas and the ‘Just War’ theory to explain the IRA campaign of terror, he will manifest the poverty of his theology and the void of his spirituality.

He is not remotely penitent, and, as Geoffrey Wheatcroft has observed of Martin McGuinness, if he were a Serb, he would be indicted at The Hague.

‘Or try another comparison, the respective fate of two terrorist leaders. One is a white Catholic Irishman, the other a dark-skinned Muslim Palestinian; one is asked to present a programme on Jesus, the other is brutally bumped off – an assassination which, like all such by Mossad, will never be publicly condemned by the US. Suppose that, at the height of the IRA violence, Adams and McGuinness had been the objects of "targeted killing" by MI6. It's interesting to speculate what the American reaction would have been.

‘The British media are sometimes accused of a bias against Israel. But would Channel 4 ask an unrepentant Islamist terrorist who had killed ordinary Israelis to present a programme on the Prophet Mohamed? Or, for that matter, Ratko Mladic to talk about Orthodox Christianity and the Serbian monastic tradition?’

Are there really any differences between the religio-political ideologies and terrorist methods of Gerry Adams and Mahmoud al-Mabhouh?

And Geoffrey Wheatcroft hits the nail right on the head with this:

‘Compare and contrast, as exam papers say. The IRA and its front organisation Sinn Fein want to undo the partition of Ireland that was effected by the creation of a separate province of Northern Ireland in 1920. To that end the IRA deliberately murdered many people, including ordinary Protestants, and that end, if not the means, "is shared by many of our citizens", Blair says, as well as by millions of Irish Americans.

‘Hamas wants to undo the partition of Palestine that was effected by the creation of a separate state of Israel in 1948. To that end it has deliberately murdered many people, including ordinary Jews. And that end, if not the means, is shared by hundreds of millions of Arabs and Muslims as well as others in Asia and Africa. Why does their support not equally validate the objective?’

Doubtless there will be those who will assert there is no evidence that Gerry Adams was a commander or was ever in the IRA, blah, blah, blah. Yet only yesterday, Delours Price, the first female member of the IRA, said that Garry Adams ordered her to ‘disappear people’.

She led the unit that bombed London in March 1973, and states unequivocally that Gerry Adams was her Officer Commanding from whom she took orders in person, which included the ‘disappearances’ of IRA members Seamus Wright, Kevin McKee and Joe Lynskey, not to mention the Belfast mother-of-ten Jean McConville.

Gerry Adams is an unrepentant liar, murderer and man of blood.

And yet still he remains in communion with the Church of Rome.

Why is he so tolerable to the Roman Catholic hierarchy, when the mother of a nine-year-old girl who was raped and made pregnant by her step father is excommunicated for permitting an abortion?

As appalling as abortion undoubtedly is, how can it be more mortal a sin than leading one of the most effective terrorist organisations in the world? How can it merit excommunication more than a lifetime of involvement in robbery, fraud and drug-dealing; murdering hundreds of one’s fellow-citizens – men, women and children; the attempted assassination of the British Prime Minister and her entire Cabinet; lying to protect a paedophile brother; and facilitating a known paedophile to work with children?


Anonymous len said...

One who plays a part; especially, one who, for the purpose of winning approbation of favor, puts on a fair outside seeming; one who feigns to be other and better than he is; a false pretender to virtue or piety; one who simulates virtue or piety

21 February 2010 at 11:28  
Blogger greenalien said...

Amen, your Grace.

21 February 2010 at 11:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frequently you gripe about the media's treatment of Christianity and the airtime given to Islam. But here we have a Christian terrorist given the sort of airtime and editorial control that any Muslim terrorist could only dream of. And you are griping again. Are you NEVER satisfied?

21 February 2010 at 11:43  
Blogger Species 8472 said...

It never ceases to fascinate me. The basic answer to all your questions is that it is all a game - and you, here, now, today are playing your hand, as insignificantly weak and pathetic a hand it may be in the grand scheme of the game. SNAP!

21 February 2010 at 11:46  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Catholic Church only ever excommunicated ONE of Hitler's Nazi's - and that was for divorcing his wife.

The Catholic Church does have standards to upkeep, then, but murdering innocent people isn't one of them. As long Adams doesn't ever divorce, he'll be protected.

21 February 2010 at 11:53  
Anonymous len said...

What exactly does the Catholic church stand for?
I think it is being stripped bare and its nakedness will be exposed; "I am against you," declares the LORD Almighty. "I will lift your skirts over your face. I will show the nations your nakedness and the kingdoms your shame." (Nahum 3:5)

21 February 2010 at 11:55  
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21 February 2010 at 12:01  
Anonymous Barendina Smedley said...

Amen, indeed. Just when I think I've lost the capacity to be surprised by the warmth and respect accorded to Adams, McGuinness & Co by people who really ought to know better - well, I'm surprised again. But congratulation on channelling righteous indignation into temperate, persuasive prose. If it changes even a few minds about the wickedness of this man's actions, you've done a great thing.

21 February 2010 at 12:36  
Anonymous Happyness Stan said...

Your Grace

The direct relationship between Nazism and all that went with it, and the RCC is well established and documented.

International and national terrorism may not have been invented by the Jesuits, but it has certainly been their major self-confessed means to their most evil ends for the best part of 1000 years.

There is therefore nothing whatsoever inconsistent with being a member of the RCC and being a murderous terrorist at the same time. This is not my opinion, it is the well documented, and very unfortunate fact of the matter.

Apart from the more material, evidence available to any one wishing to look for it, there is also the type of in your face day to day evidence.

For example.

The RCC is now and has long since been very powerful all over the world and especially in places such as international banking systems, large multi-national corporations, Ireland, Germany, and Italy.

Infinitely powerful enough to stop in its tracks any violent political movement it wished to.

The RCC therefore very obviously had no desire to stop either the rise of European Nazism, or Irish Nationalist terrorism in the 1930's.

For it is well known that when trying to understand the true nature of what must have been a high conspiracy. The first, if not also the last place to start looking, is for the organisation who not only have the exclusive power to form such a conspiracy, but also have long since had the power to stop or subvert it.

Now if that was not bad enough, here is further food for serious thought. It is also well documented that our own secret services are fully infiltrated by the Jesuit orders, such as the Knights of Malta. The exact same secret services that as we know were pulling the strings behind the Irish Unionist terrorist organisations.

Make of the above what you will. However please try to deal with the message and not the messenger. I have no personal axe to grind, and am as horrified by my own reality as the rest of you should be.

21 February 2010 at 13:25  
Anonymous Andrew K said...

I always thought that a great opportunity was lost, when Mr Adams' voice was not allowed to be heard, to use the unique vocal talents of Ms Su Pollard.

21 February 2010 at 15:29  
Blogger Christian said...

Actually, his is excommunicate, John Paul II renewed the long standing excommunications of all members of the IRA during the 1980's.

Let it not be forgotten that in 1917 the Archbishop of Dublin declared form his pulpit: "hell is not hot enough, nor eternity long enough for the members of the IRA."

21 February 2010 at 16:36  
Anonymous not a machine said...

One can only hope that Gerry Adams is seeking God , and if he is earnest that he can do good with the people he knows .

Both Ireland and Northern Ireland need god in there impoverished and in some areas still divides estates , it is astonishing that after all this time some areas are still full of drugs and lives being damaged .

Having seen so much of the troubles , it is I hope somthing the people realise has done little more that fill the cemetries up quicker . In that sense I hope he can do good as must the others of this era who are at least being reflective .

21 February 2010 at 17:52  
Blogger Paul Halsall said...

Nice to see that you are hosting Paisleyites.

I deplore Gerry Adams just as much as Paiselyites, but both share blame in N.I.

I have just finished watching the C4 programme, and it is one of the best pieces of TV I have ever watched.

21 February 2010 at 19:55  
Anonymous Frogpondian said...

Look , the English in Ireland were appaling thugs and bullies over many long centuries and attempted to eradicate catholicicm there by all kinds of devices, catholics may not own a horse worth more than a fiver, all the estate to any heir who becomes a proddy etc. Their ridiculous, toady
like "national" church happily endorsed all this.

If you lot of hypocrites had left Ireland when politely asked no one would have to have shot a single one of you and there would never have been a Gerry Adams.

21 February 2010 at 20:05  
Blogger greenalien said...

Oh, so it's the fault of United Kingdom that their civilians got murdered in all sorts of terrorist attacks, yes? I suppose USA deserved 9/11 too?

And, "If you left Ireland..." ? Where are the protestants in Northern Ireland to go? They make up a majority up there and it's their land too!

It's not a just outrage when it's merely senseless killing hundred years or more after the last perceived grievance. That's hypocrisy. It's especially not a just revenge when collected on unarmed civilians. That's terrorism. I haven't seen Oliver Cromwell being the target of car bombs.

21 February 2010 at 23:26  
Anonymous Frogpondian said...


Despite the moniker, I am British.I have no time for terrorism.For many long centuries we were the terrorists in Ireland.

Reap what you sow.

22 February 2010 at 03:40  
Blogger Ronald said...


Looking back at history would it not have been better if we had managed to wipe out the catholic churches.


Did the excommunication include the provisional IRA and all other flavours?

22 February 2010 at 07:18  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Your Grace is as erudite as ever.

22 February 2010 at 08:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cranmer what you and your CofE did in Ireland over 400 years makes me want to puke. In my lifetime your army was shooting Catholics dead in the street, putting them in concentration camps (oh, you call it internment)and using torture. This is a case of typical English hypocrisy, did your church excommunicate war criminal and paedo Ted Heath.

22 February 2010 at 09:24  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Anonymous and Frogpondian, the Church of Ireland you revile seems to be winning new congregations from an unexpected source, Irish Catholics.


It would be reckless to speculate on the reasons for these defections from the Roman church, but perhaps St Gerry has put his finger on it. All of which raises an interesting possibility. Could it be that just as Adams and McGuiness are within grasp of their sectarian dream in Ulster, back in the mother-ship the faithfull are voting with their feet for the other side. If so, how deliciously ironic.

Let's hope this apostasy is never dealt with in the time-honoured style of the Provos. At least with Teddy Kennedy lying cold in his grave there may be at bit less misguided support from Boston.

22 February 2010 at 09:52  
Anonymous shane said...

Frogpodian, well said.

Bluedog, the (so-called) Church of Ireland is no longer a state church, nor is it antagonistic to Irish Republicanism. In St Patrick's Cathedral they hold services every year to commemorate COI members who fought in the old IRA. I have attended several.

There is indeed a tendency for Catholic clergymen to jump ship because of celibacy. There is also a tendency among disaffected Catholics in South Dublin suburbs to defect because of sex scandals. The vast majority of Anglican growth in the Republic comes from immigration. Dean MacCarthy of St Patrick's Cathedral wrote a piece a few months ago in the Church of Ireland Gazette asserting that the census figures are misleading because immigrants, particularly from Nigeria, usually eschew their local Anglican Church and attend a 'black' church instead, or else they do not practice.

22 February 2010 at 10:26  
Anonymous shane said...

Actually Christian that was in the 1790s, and it was Bishop Moriarity of Kerry who said that, not the Archbishop of Dublin. It was not directed not against the IRA, but the United Irishmen, who were mostly Presbyterians. The Archbishop of Dublin in 1917 was Archbishop William Walsh, who not only supported the IRA but said that no Irishman could support the British Army against them.

22 February 2010 at 11:46  
Blogger Simian said...

Whoa there. Fellow comment makers - some of you are losing the plot. Surely the point at issue is not casting blame on one of the (more than two) sides in the "Troubles". The issue is the way Gerry Adams came across in the programme. I'll give you my take for what it's worth. Did you not share my distaste at his glib lack of any regret for the unChristian acts in which he was implicated? He actually said that he had his own take on religion, and implied that he moulded it to fit his own agenda.
His personal musings were shoehorned into a programme surely gravely mistitled as "A History of the Bible". Apart from a token "expert" the History of the Bible took very much a back seat.
A travesty in sheeps clothing.

22 February 2010 at 19:54  
Anonymous G Orwell said...

"But would Channel 4 ask an unrepentant Islamist terrorist who had killed ordinary Israelis to present a programme on the Prophet Mohamed? "
Surely the ideal person to do it?

"Where are the protestants in Northern Ireland to go? They make up a majority up there and it's their land too!"
I am sure that if we had let the Catholics have control of all of Ireland they would have had found a "final solution" to Northern Irish question.

It says a lot about the RC that where they are the majority there is never any problems with protestant minorities.

22 February 2010 at 21:23  
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22 February 2010 at 22:26  
Anonymous Convinced Anglican said...

"I am sure that if we had let the Catholics have control of all of Ireland they would have had found a "final solution" to Northern Irish question." G.Orwell

Quite so: as they did in the so-called Republic! Prior to 1916 Protestants - Church of Ireland and Presbyterian - formed 22% of the population of the 26 counties.

After partition, the numbers were reduced to 10%. Today Protestants form 3% of the population. The majority of Protestants were small farmers, ordinary workers - not the landed gentry and absentee landlords of Catholic myth.

The great playwright, Sean O'Casey, a Protestant, lived with his family in poverty in a tenement in Dublin.

Protestants were 'eliminated' after partition, taken out and shot, intimidated, and/or burnt out.

History shows that it was never a Republic. The word Republic does not appear even once in the Constitution. Catholic Social policy dominates. De Valera's constitution was overseen by John Charles McQuaid (Archbishop of Dublin).

What Ireland got was a Theocracy - politicians in craven supplication to Rome. Many of that class still are today - witness Brian Cowan's grovelling to the Papal Nuncio.

Trinity College Dublin was a particular focus for hate. John Charles McQuaid forbade Catholics to enter as students or to teach in TCD on pain of excommunication. Protestant graduates were refused jobs ostensibly because they did not have the Irish language. From top to bottom, from birth to death, the Catholic Church dominated and divided the people of the so-called Republic.

No child of the 'chosen' middle-class faithful saw the inside of an Industrial School - the slaves in those institutions were the children of the poverty-stricken poor. Hundreds of thousands of Irish children, incarcerated, raped, beaten and starved while the government, the legal profession, teachers and doctors colluded.

Southern Irish society was infantilised and abused by the Church of Rome. It is only now, after revelations in the Ryan and Murphy reports that some (not all) are rebelling.

Those 'Irish patriots' who murdered their Protestant compatriots in the North of Ireland benefited from a free National Health Service, free education and a freedom to BE, denied their co-religionists in the Republic.

Yes... indeed there was gerrymandering and suspicion of Roman Catholics in the North of Ireland for decades, nonetheless they multiplied (as Protestants in the South were decimated).

It was, a Protestant State for a Protestant people. Many southern Protestants were forced to migrate north. Home Rule was indeed Rome Rule in DeValera's a 'Catholic State for a Catholic people' theocracy.

The Anglican Church of Ireland was disestablished in 1871. The British State built Maynooth RC seminary and funded National Schools for all children.

Today, and since partition, the Catholic Church has total control of 97% of Irish schools. It has controlled hospitals, orphanages, homes for disabled, the elderly and the 'Catholic Universities'. Systemic misgovernment means that nobody really knows how much of the country, or which institutions, are OWNED by Roman Catholic religious orders and bishops.

The Irish theocratic state after partition was and still is, a betrayal of Republicanism. The 1798 dream of unity - 'Unity of Catholic, Protestant and Dissenter' was lost. Ireland cast off the British 'yoke' and knelt to Rome.

All that was gained was a mirage - the Celtic Tiger. Just like their masters in Rome, the Irish government lined their own pockets, the pockets of the Church and a variety of cronies. Today the country is again on its knees and the most vulnerable in society are once more paying the price. 14% unemployment, small businesses decimated, foreign employers pulled out; 60,000 have emigrated in the past year, more are going. All this out of a population of 5 million.

Your Grace, you are correct in all your musings.

23 February 2010 at 02:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"After partition, the numbers were reduced to 10%. Today Protestants form 3% of the population."

The majority of the protestant population lived in NI so obviously the numbers dropped because of partition. The continued decline is because of increasing irreligiousness among the population.

I have always found the English desire to talk down to the Irish and constantly belittle and believe the worst about us quite distressing. Why do you hate us so much?

23 February 2010 at 12:45  
Blogger Bryan said...

An American says, no fair!

You might remember, though we have developed very close ties, that we did fight a civil war against our mother country to establish ourselves as an independent nation. So, the issue that some high placed individuals, of Irish-Catholic decent, in our government might be sympathetic to the plight of the Irish should be excused.

Especially since the recently deceased chief of these hypocritical terrorist supporters was knighted by the Queen herself. Though I cannot for the life of me understand why she would ever do so.

The way of Queens, and Kings, is to far beyond me, but presidents, senators, and ministers I can understand.

23 February 2010 at 15:02  
Anonymous frogpondian said...

Well a lot of Anglicans in Ireland prior to the end of the British occupation were civil servants, military types, landed aristocracy and others dependent on continuing privilege.

When that priveleged economic and social position was no more, they left.

Many of course, on the other hand, had conducted themselves as true patriots and had given their lives for Ireland and democracy. One thinks of Erskine Childers whose son went on to become the President of the Republic, or Sir Roger Casemont. In fact the first president of the Republic, Douglas Hyde was a southern protestant.

While that was going on the British were busy setting up a sectarian statelet in one corner of the island.

23 February 2010 at 18:53  
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24 February 2010 at 21:10  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

Sorry, but I simply have no sympathy for the British as far as Ireland is concerned. Britain was and still is a colonial power carrying out an illegal and immoral occupation. The Irish people are entitled to seek the liberation of their homeland from British occupation and the imposition of foreign institutions on their country. I have no truck for the IRA, but then again, I didn't grow up in a system of cultural, economic and political oppression.

25 February 2010 at 00:47  
Blogger Mark in Spokane said...

After re-reading my post, I need to clarify my comments above. When I said "British," I meant the British government. I also want to make clear that terrorist activities, such as targeted attacks on civilians, etc., are reprehensible, no matter who is carrying them out or why. Insofar as the IRA participated in such attacks, it should be condemned. No question. And no amount of opposition to the British government's continued occupation of the territory of Ireland can excuse the deliberate targeting of innocent civilians.

25 February 2010 at 02:35  

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