Sunday, March 14, 2010

Liam Fox on defence – why do Tory leaders not talk like this any more?

Dr Liam Fox is the Shadow Defence Secretary.

On a different day with a favourable wind, he might have been the Leader of his Party.

He still might be, of course.

Politics is a game of snakes and ladders: there is frequently no rhyme or reason to one’s ascent or descent, who’s in or who’s out, who loses or who wins. And rarely is it a matter of justice.

But on a day in which the polls all point again to a hung parliament, with the nation paralysed by indecision – rejecting the clunking opacity of Gordon Brown in direct proportion to the extent to which they are unattracted by suave imprecision of David Cameron – a message of clarity emerges from Liam Fox.

And it is utter common sense and really quite simple.

As are all effective political messages.

With a sideswipe at the pathologically left-leaning academics, schoolteachers, media and politicians, he says:

I’m really fed up with these liberal revisionist historians who want us to feel bad about everything that our country has ever done. Believing in ourselves and trusting in ourselves is a pretty good start in a country that wanted to make a better go of its future.


He who rewrites a nation’s history and forces everyone to believe it dooms us all never to learn from it.

And this nation has done nothing better than to weave the Christian faith into its cultural fabric, sewn every seam of its legislature with truth and embellished its constitutional design with the incomparable message of hope and love.

Christianity shaped the heart and soul of England and the United Kingdom.

And yet, after 13 years of New Labour, even our Parliament would have us feel bad about it.

Dr Fox continues:

Labour has suffered from such a strong case of colonial guilt that they cannot see the strength we have as a country in being able to form strong relations with different parts of the globe. If you go to a lot of countries, you can see where there is a strong affection for the United Kingdom that we could tap into.

Provided, of course, these different parts of the globe wish to reciprocate.

And, frankly, after the shabby way the UK ditched the Commonwealth in favour of the EEC in 1973, we would be arrogant to have any expectations.

He continues:

We have in the last 13 years not leveraged these relationships in any way or shape or form to anything like the level that we could have. Rather than to apologise for everything in our history, we should take a bit of pride in our own history and our own conventions and our own convictions and start to look at the positive aspects which give us clout in the world and which give us respect and utilise them properly.

Taking pride in our own history and our own conventions and our own convictions?

It ought to be for David Cameron and the Conservative Party to articulate precisely how they intend to roll back the forces of socialism and reinvigorate the nation with a sense of pride and patriotism. And how they will build upon those aspects which ‘give us clout in the world’ or which ‘give us respect’.

It is evident (and unfortunate) that the most respected thing to emerge on the world stage after 13 years of New Labour is Tony Blair himself.

In calling for closer links with the British Commonwealth, Dr Fox alludes to the age of Empire. Of course, he cannot exalt the virtues of that empire, but he goes as far as any Tory may dare.

And he resolute that defence of the realm must remain an inviolable issue of national sovereignty:

Defence must be a sovereign issue. We cannot allow defence of the UK ever to be decided by a supernational body like the EU. Unless you’re willing to fund and fight, you’re not in the top group of allies which leave only one country in Europe which is a strong military partner for the UK – France. Our security lies in our own hands, and it’s best enhanced by a strong bilateral relationship with the US – as long as the Americans understand that we are a partner, and not a supplicant – and France.

With David Cameron saying ‘never’ to the euro, and Liam Fox saying ‘never’ to European Defence Force, all that remains is for George Osborne to say ‘never’ to a European Monetary Fund with direct (or indirect) tax-levying powers.

These red lines will ensure that there will be a 'massive Euro bust-up' during the first years of a Conservative government.

And, in the event of a minority administration, 'Europe' promises once again to emerge as the issue by which the competing wings of the Conservative Party descend into internecine political warfare: a vote of confidence would then be lost by Mr Cameron, precipitating a further general election and an undoubted leadership challenge.

Enter Liam Fox, stage right.


Blogger English Pensioner said...

Personally I think that Liam Fox will be the next Conservative Prime Minister.

14 March 2010 at 11:25  
Anonymous graham wood said...

"And, in the event of a minority administration, 'Europe' promises once again to emerge as the issue by which the competing wings of the Conservative Party descend into internecine political warfare: a vote of confidence would then be lost by Mr Cameron, precipitating a further general election and an undoubted leadership challenge."

Good! and arguably the only objective to pursue by voting UKIP, or BNP to bring it on.

A thorough re-alignment of the political landscape is urgently needed, and the Lib/Lab/Con/EU party sent packing. No matter how long it takes, a hung parliament, and resultant coalition of sorts, will begin this process, tortuous though it may be for a period.
It is part of the necessary surgery to recover the dying patient which is the British political system as it exists today.
Lets be clear, we do not possess a Conservative Party any more in the UK.
When will the sheeple realise - 'VOTE BLUE - GET MORE EU'?
Hopefully,enough of them will before May 6th.

14 March 2010 at 11:27  
Anonymous t said...

Liam Fox comes across as a nasty man with no sense of any warmth at all. I can't see people voting for him, and I've always disliked him.

14 March 2010 at 12:06  
Anonymous Happyness Stan said...

I do not believe that Liam Fox gets it, which is why he will never become any more then what he is now.

To be selected as potential or actual PM material you have first to be approved by such bodies as The Bilderberg Group.

Or at least have your chief advisor or chancellor approved by them. Other wise you do not have a hope in hell, of getting anywhere important. Or will get the Thatcher treatment quicker then you can say "NO NO NO." Or the Major treatment as soon as you are shown to be unable to deliver your party and therefore country into EU enslavement.

As for the British Empire, again you will undoubtedly mostly all miss the REAL point.

The British Empire has little or indeed nothing whatsoever to do with the British People as a whole. Except for the obvious fact that many British people died horrifically pointless deaths fighting to create it, and vastly more preserving it. The British Empire is not what our history books told it it was. The British Empire long since ceased being measured in territory. It is measured by the extent of its BANKING, and trading SYSTEMS.

You are right to point out that there has been good results for mankind in general from all of this mass raping and pillaging of the worlds resources. These are numerous, and self-evidently so.

HOWEVER. ( I hope you are all sitting down, because this is going to be a however to beat all previous howevers )

The logical conclusion for the Empire for which the Sun has NEVER set. Is The EU, and all that goes with it such as UN and World Government. Plus the complete end of democracy, and all that goes with that.

The British Empire is now and has always been a privately owned CORPORATION. Sometimes known as The Company, or Firm. The British people have always been no more then tin meddle glorified cannon fodder or indulged tea-ladies, periodically thrown scraps from the banking corporatists table.

The end can justify certain means, but ONLY if the end is a good one.

The end however will not be individual property rights and all that goes with it FOR ALL. The END will be ever more universally spread overt enslavement, instead of the more covert type we have wickedly endured for many generations.


14 March 2010 at 12:34  
Anonymous Mikec said...

Marxism + Corporatism - Fascism...

The only difference between Stalin's USSR and Nazi Germany was 'who owned the means of production. For the USSR, the 'workers' owned the means of production and was administered on their behalf by the 'soviets', in turn administered by the supreme soviet, which was administered by the politburo of whom the ruler was Joe.

The means of production in Nazi Germany was in private ownership, but all production, every nut and bolt, was administered by the Nazi Party, and the Nazi party was controlled by the Fuhrer Adolf.

Even the nationalism was held in common one was the fatherland, the other was the motherland....

Both Hitler and Stalin were put in power by corporatist money...

That is our future unless we can break the cycle.

Yehovah will look after Israel, but he will not look out for England unless England looks out for HIM

"If my people, who are called by My Name, will HUMBLE themselves, and PRAY, and SEEK MY FACE, and TURN from their wicked ways, THEN WILL I HEAL THEIR NATION."

When the music show of that name (if my people) swept the country in 1976 things started changing and within 10 years we were the fourth largest economy in the world....

14 March 2010 at 13:19  
Anonymous Asian Colonial Subject said...

Hello all,

I'm a chinese Singaporean and I would like to state for the record that I am indeed very proud and glad that my nation has been ruled and administered by the British, and I would be happy to welcome the British back as my nation's Head of State if your people would condescend to do so.

Especially when I compare the state of Singapore-Malaysia to my less prosperous and orderly surrounding neighbours, i.e. Indonesia, the Philippines, Indo-China, etc, how can I not be thankful for British culture, institutions, respect for rule of law, liberty and values which they have implanted and grown on my nation's soil?

At the risk of sounding seditious, God save the Queen!

14 March 2010 at 13:39  
Anonymous Mikec said...

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14 March 2010 at 13:58  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Dear Asian colonial subject :nothing seditious about it all "God save the Queen" , as you point out there are far worse/corrupt things .

re post : The rediscovery of speaking conservative values and dare I say British values ,is a modern problem , for many decades delerious spin has been performed upon us to make us think different thoughts .
It is unfornuate that so many now josling for power are more in love with data rather than leadership to govern .
I see a good mind/man in Liam Fox as I do in David Cameron , we need a conservative government that is for sure , however all things have to be tested , and these times are perhaps the most testing of our history , only time will tell if he chooses to take us down a path of no good .

14 March 2010 at 14:16  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ Asian Colonial Subject (13:39)—Sadly, the British culture, institutions, respect for rule of law, liberty and values which have flourished in Singapore are withering in Britain herself. Decades of subservience to the European Union and a flood of immigration that brought Islam to our shores are destroying what used to be a great country.

Those responsible for this act of national vandalism are the Conservative Party and the Labour Party. For reasons that I cannot begin to fathom, one of those vandals has the passionate support of His Grace.

14 March 2010 at 15:04  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

'Politics is a game of snakes and ladders.'

But mostly snakes.

14 March 2010 at 15:11  
Blogger Gnostic said...

What's that, Dr. Fox? More deperate, empty bleating from the blu-Labour ranks? Where was your voice when the Opposition helped to sell our country out?

14 March 2010 at 17:03  
Blogger Frugal Dougal said...

As usual I agree, Your Grace, but can't we have blue lines instead of red ones?

14 March 2010 at 18:10  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Bravo Reynard....but what kept you???

14 March 2010 at 18:38  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Asian Colonial Subject: in reality, you are not alone in your opinion. Indeed, we in this country want more of the same too! Well done that man!

14 March 2010 at 18:41  
Anonymous Zach Johnstone said...

Your Grace,

This language is prevalent chiefly among those academics who offer their support to supranational arrangements; a liberal world order. Those for whom Westphalian nation states present nothing more than an inconvenience to be overcome, and for whom the Realist school of International Relations study is antiquated and irrelevant.

I trust, therefore, that Mr Fox will offer his voice in opposition towards any further ceding of power to Brussels.

Or perhaps I am thinking wishfully, and that this salient issue will be swept away as he prioritises his career prospects for the next parliament over any true conviction. Yes, that sounds more probable.

14 March 2010 at 18:56  
Anonymous William Wallace said...

For a child raised a Catholic and born a Scot ,Fox shows how ruinous bad company can be.

He needs to stop hanging about with a set of whingeing Whigs and pandering to their imperialist fantasies.

14 March 2010 at 19:35  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

Well, Cameron & his crew have a few more weeks in which to secure a great many more votes than it looks as if they are likely to get. And it would be so simple; what is holding them back? We can only presume that they wish to continue as we are, subservient to the Europeans.

14 March 2010 at 19:36  
Anonymous Happyness Stan said...

Well, Cameron & his crew have a few more weeks in which to secure a great many more votes than it looks as if they are likely to get. And it would be so simple; what is holding them back? We can only presume that they wish to continue as we are, subservient to the Europeans.

14 March 2010 19:36

My I refer you to my above post. It does explain much that you may find illuminating.

Why do you imagine a British PM might want to be subservient to the Europeans?

For I can assure you that many Europeans seem to believe that being members of the EU is what is making them subservient to us.

Of course neither are actually correct, there is like so many others things noting new about this situation.

The truth is we are all being forced to be subservient to the same people, many of which are indeed British. Certainly the most important one is, or at least in public claims to be British.

We have a ruling class elite long since wholly running and dictating to the show. Most of which I am sure you have never heard of, and are never going to even meet, never mind ever get a chance of voting for.

It is self-apparent that if our own ruling class did not wish us to be in the EU, we would not be in the EU. Therefore for you and more importantly for future generations sake please take the time to find out exactly who these secretive ruling class actually are, and then you might finally know something worth knowing.

15 March 2010 at 02:59  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

Well. It seems that you’re analysis will bear fruit.

The liberal-Conservative project is about to be terminated by a hung parliament. It was predicated upon an analysis formulated in the Blair years.

After a hung parliament there will be civil war inside the Conservative Party – Cameron and his gays will be a memory.

A strong leader from the Right will emerge in the autumn of this year; and he will rule this country with a rod of iron.

Our country will be free of the EU after a terrific struggle. Imagine that; a free people! The British lion will roar once more across the oceans (we will once more send missionaries to every corner of this globe).


Secession now!


For a prophecy foretells of our freedom!

15 March 2010 at 08:11  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Sorry chaps

It is this specific link that speaks about us in the prophecy:

I am unsure if Ireland, the land of sainst and scholars will be saved; but Scotland, England and Wales will be.

15 March 2010 at 08:29  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Ours is lister under URGENT PROPHECY

15 March 2010 at 08:31  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Who really calls the shots?look here, 02.htm

15 March 2010 at 08:40  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

Englishman 08:40

That link is not working

15 March 2010 at 09:26  
Anonymous It's faith, stupid said...

Mr Singh

I could not find the particular prophesy you speak of, but I think there is another copy of it here

It would seem, as ever, that prayer is the key!

15 March 2010 at 11:12  
Anonymous It's faith, stupid said...

That should be here:

15 March 2010 at 11:14  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr Faith

Thank you.

15 March 2010 at 11:46  
Anonymous Danko said...

This is why I supported the good Dr. Fox for the leadership in 2005. Rumour has it, there is always a Westminster rumour about this sort of thing, that Cameron asked some of his supporters to back Davis in order to cut out Fox. DC's team knew Fox was far stronger and a far greater threat to project Cameron.

15 March 2010 at 15:28  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Mataure cheese,apologies,this will get you there,Institute for the study of globalisation and covert politics.In the side bar ,you will find the pilgrims,among lots of useful information.

16 March 2010 at 08:29  

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