Friday, April 02, 2010

Crucified for Christ

But this Jesus whom you crucified, God has made him both Lord and Messiah (Acts 2:36).

In light of the Prime Minister’s realisation that Roman Catholics are the ‘conscience of the nation’ (was he including Tony Blair in that?), and recalling what wonders this Labour Government have done to Roman Catholics in the Cabinet, to their adoption agencies and schools, to the family, to the poor, and for the rights of the unborn child, it is worth reflecting today upon the Christians who are crucified for their faith.

Of course, the Archbishop of Canterbury was right to point out that there is no persecution in the UK which even begins to compare to that experienced by our brothers and sisters in countries such as Nigeria, Iraq, Egypt and Zimbabwe, who face ‘butchery and intimidation’ on a daily basis, and for whom taking up their cross may be quite literal.

And yet it would be unwise to ignore or play down Labour’s systematic eradication of Christian liberty, or what a hostile place this has become for those followers of Jesus who wish to ‘do God’ in the public realm. If Roman Catholics are indeed 'the conscience of the nation', they must be salt and light. So why does Gordon Brown crucify them?

The death of Christ brought his disciples to the very depths of despair: they were abandoned, mocked and disillusioned. And yet they possessed within their hearts the peace which passes all understanding: an assurance, a hope that their time of testing might pass and that the curse of death might be conquered.

They did not know; they believed.

And the message they believed has been central to the Christian faith for almost 2000 years. ‘It is one that has continually to be reinforced at times of stress, despair and danger, the moments when faith is tested and the will to overcome is undermined. This is why Good Friday is so central in its symbolism: the descent of darkness, the portents of destruction, the expiry of vision and hope. It is the Good Friday that comes to every person at different times, when failure robs life of all meaning, joy and love. It is the collapse of enterprise, confidence, relationships and dignity. It is the descent into Hell.’

Christians endure what Josephus referred to as ‘that most wretched of deaths’ on Good Friday because of the sure and certain hope of the Resurrection: it sustains them through the despair. But this life does not promise the joy and ecstasy of Easter: that is for another place. All that we can expect on earth is to be persecuted for the sake of righteousness: the world will hate us, but it hated Him first.

Today is a time for reflection: politics is ephemeral, but hope is eternal.

When I survey the wondrous cross
on which the Prince of Glory died;
my richest gain I count but loss,
and pour contempt on all my pride.

Forbid it, Lord, that I should boast,
save in the death of Christ, my God;
all the vain things that charm me most,
I sacrifice them to his blood.

See, from his head, his hands, his feet,
sorrow and love flow mingled down.
Did e'er such love and sorrow meet,
or thorns compose so rich a crown.

Were the whole realm of nature mine,
that were an offering far too small;
love so amazing, so divine,
demands my soul, my life, my all.

42 Comments:

Blogger Jared Gaites said...

I am sure His Grace has probably read this, but for those who do not tweet and follow the twats:

Warmest wishes for Easter from the PM.
The Official No10 Easter Message

It seems that the new message is that it is the "Christian Churches" that are the conscience of the nation.

2 April 2010 at 09:53  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Jared Gates,

His Grace has just tweeted on this.

It appears that the PM's No10 Easter message is not what he said in his interview with 'Faith Today' magazine. According to The Guardian, he referred specifically to Roman Catholics.

2 April 2010 at 10:25  
Anonymous len said...

The Word Became Flesh( John 14-18)
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. (John bore witness to him, and cried, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, for he was before me.'") And from his fulness have we all received, grace upon grace. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.

2 April 2010 at 10:27  
OpenID Michael said...

'The Christian churches are the conscience of our country,'

I reckon that might just have ruined the weekend of a certain Prof. Dawkins. No doubt he'll start an Atheist Conscience of Britain Society in response.

2 April 2010 at 11:29  
Anonymous Trencherbone said...

"I reckon that might just have ruined the weekend of a certain Prof. Dawkins. No doubt he'll start an Atheist Conscience of Britain Society in response."

No need, Gordon will also reaassure the humanists that they are the conscience of Britain, as are the Muslims, Sikhs, Jews, Wiccans and indeed anyone with a vote.

2 April 2010 at 11:33  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Michael,

Dawkins may be softening in his old age:

"Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, said: “There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings. I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7085129.ece

2 April 2010 at 11:34  
Blogger David Wheeler said...

Len - Amen to that.

On the subject of persecution of Christians:

"Of course, the Archbishop of Canterbury was right to point out that there is no persecution in the UK which even begins to compare to that experienced by our brothers and sisters in countries such as Nigeria, Iraq, Egypt and Zimbabwe, who face ‘butchery and intimidation’ on a daily basis, and for whom taking up their cross may be quite literal."

There is a word missing here, and it is "YET".

Europe is the Revived Roman Empire, the toes of iron and clay, spoken of in the Book of Daniel.
Scripture tells us that it will be ruled by the anti-Christ, and the False Prophet, who will

"force everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name."

The implantable Verichip fits all the criteria of this prophecy.
This causes some complications for Christians, because

'A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name."'

And when Scripture says,

"This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus."

You better believe it!

David Wheeler.

2 April 2010 at 11:39  
Anonymous Trencherbone said...

"I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse.”

To use Prof Dawkins' meme analogy, infection with cowpox prevents smallpox.

2 April 2010 at 11:39  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

“Conscience of the nation”, what sentimental piffle!

“And yet it would be unwise to ignore or play down Labour’s systematic eradication of Christian liberty, or what a hostile place this has become for those followers of Jesus who wish to ‘do God’ in the public realm.”

How much those last four words conceal. You and your co-religionist whether Muslims, Hindus, Pagans, Ancestor Worshipers, Mithrascians or whatever have every right to pursue your faith privately but don’t expect any special privileges or influence for your belief when you enter the public realm. Let it be exposed for what it is, faith based on superstition and often prejudice and derived from beliefs that predated science and enlightenment.

What really upsets you is the gradual diminution of your Christian influence over the last 50 years at least amongst the general population who are simply indifferent to your charms. Whilst politicians far from resisting your “pedalling” are busy pandering to every religious “pusher” for fear of losing votes.

Let’s look towards a future when the few religions that are left today are viewed with no more than curiosity and amazement, just as the thousands of now defunct religions are today. Let the myths that you portray as truths and the values that you claim emanate from a non existent deity be seen as at best wishful thinking and at worst fraud.

After recent events that anyone can utter the words Catholic and Conscience in the same breath is beyond belief but I am being naive, after all it was a Christian politician that uttered them.

2 April 2010 at 11:39  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Your Grace

David Cameron's Easter Message:

"The life of Jesus Christ and his teachings continue to speak to and inspire every generation".

2 April 2010 at 11:54  
Blogger Bishop Alan Wilson said...

Your Grace is to be thanked warmly for your perceptive response to the Prime Minister, of all people, deciding it is now his duty to produce an Easter Message Urbi et Orbi. All that, and saving the world.

St Paul talks mainly of being “Crucified with Christ,” but he does use your phrase in Philippians 1:29. Therefore the phenomenon you describe does seem inherent to Christianity not merely contemporary.

PS Your Grcae's Word Verification for this comment is "goveiku" Is that meant to be "Gove IQ" or "Gove HQ" or some obscure Japanese thing?

2 April 2010 at 11:59  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Graham Davis said:
"Let’s look towards a future when the few religions that are left today are viewed with no more than curiosity and amazement, just as the thousands of now defunct religions are today"

Graham. For your information, and in relation to Christianity in particular, there is no chance of that.
The historical event of the coming, ministry, and especially the death, of Christ, meant that the world will never be the dame again.
From its very inception Christianity was the subject of fierce persecution and attempts to force it out of existence.
Mission impossible. All the persecuting tyrants of Christians throughout history have all fallen, and will continue to do so - but the eternal Gospel of Christ continues and prevails.
Take some modern examples. Russia no longer seek to proscribe the Christian faith by law as it once did under failed Soviet Communism.
China. Amazingly this country hosts the biggest Christian church in the entire world - yet in the midst of a Chinese communist regime.
Lastly, Iran. Contrary to pictures painted by many as to the political scene and the subsequent demonising of Iran, there is a widespread revival of Christianity in this country, and the demand for Persian New Testaments and Christian literature far outstrips supply.
The true Christian faith (not to be identified with weak and often corrupt so called Christian "denominations") is indestructible.
May I suggest you learn to live with it!
Most opposition to the Christian Gospel is based on ignorance, or prejudice, not on firmly rooted intellectual, or rational argument.

2 April 2010 at 12:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Prime Minister’s realisation that Roman Catholics are the ‘conscience of the nation’ "
and
"Good Friday is so central in its symbolism: the descent of darkness, the portents of destruction, the expiry of vision and hope."

Sums up what Brown has done to this nation.

2 April 2010 at 12:15  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Graham Wood....Indeed. Mr Davis should go to the New Humanist website and read:

Faith matters: whether you are religious or not.

2 April 2010 at 12:20  
Anonymous no nonny said...

In subjecting Himself to the Cricifixion, Christ epitomized and modelled humility. The seventh chapter of the Benedictine Rule outlines twelve steps towards achieving humility: the first is "to keep the fear of God in mind at all times." Overall, that humility is directed towards purification from sins, and to attaining participation in the perfect Love of God (Charity).

In polluting this site on Good Friday, the rude, crude, ignorant, aggressive atheists who invade this Christian site are models of arrogance. The haven't even sufficient humility to take their own advice by staying home and keeping their opinions to themselves. They cannot even muster that much respect for people who regularly tolerate and pray for them and their right to free speech.

It strikes me that, by deliberatly polluting this site on Good Friday, they insist on participating in the Crucifixion. In their presumption that they can kill God, they nail and spear Goodness personified to the cross: that is, they sacrifice all that is Good.

They haven't even the grace to take a nice day off.

May the Love of God flow down to them on this holiest of days.

2 April 2010 at 12:31  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Oh - and thank you, Your Grace, for publishing the words of one of my favourite hymns.

2 April 2010 at 12:35  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Ah, now His Grace understands the disparity between THe Guardian account and the No10 website.

Faith Today is a Roman Catholic magazine: when Mr Brown was being interviewed by them, it suited his agenda to convey the impression that they alone were 'the conscience of the nation'. He does, after all, need their five million votes.

Presumably, if he had been interviewed by 'Islam Today', he would have told Muslims that they also are the conscience of the nation, and so the Sikhs, and the Hindus and the Buddhists.

In fact, anyone, it appears, except the Established Church.

2 April 2010 at 12:59  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Jared. I disagree fundamentally with your comment "Mr Davis should go to the new Humanist website and read"

The lady's opening words, and much of the rest of the article are the very opposite of what Christians mean by the word "faith".

The ambiguous words are:
"Faith matters: whether you are religious or not, or even anti-religious. It matters because it inspires people to act. That can be for ill, as we see when extremism captures parts of the faith community."

This is a typical Blairite and post modern concept. "Faith" is not defined, but as long a you have a vague belief in some sort of religious concept then it is not only a "good thing" but serves an important social function.
Absolute nonsense, as is the vacuous "it inspires people to act"
Again, a typically Blairite delusion - light years away from Christianity.
Christians do not believe in a doctrine of "faith in faith" per se, but faith as clearly defined in Scripture "the faith once delivered to the saints".
It presupposes a body of doctrine (about Christ) and an identifiable message.
It is faith in Christ alone, in his atoning work on the Cross, and its sufficiency for salvation.

To be real and genuine, it must find expression in confession of CHRIST from the heart, and must be public.
Romas 10:9. "If you shall confess with your mouth.... and believe in your heart....."

Faith as such does not save a person, it is the OBJECT of faith which is all important.

2 April 2010 at 13:13  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

"The haven't even sufficient humility to take their own advice by staying home and keeping their opinions to themselves. They cannot even muster that much respect for people who regularly tolerate and pray for them and their right to free speech."

Is it just me that sees the irony in this statement?

2 April 2010 at 13:21  
Anonymous John Malcolmson said...

//Dawkins may be softening in his old age:

"Richard Dawkins, author of The God Delusion, said: “There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings. I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse.”//

It's a shame Prof Dawkins is only just beginning to see the light (if indeed he is), having contributed hugely to the present militant attitude towards Christianity displayed by the "liberal" left in this country.

There is no doubt, IMO, that antipathy towards Christians gathered momentum after the publication of his book, which unashamedly attacked Christianity specifically and virtually ignored Islam.

Prof Dawkins might also have made further amends for the skewed perspective of TGD by mentioning the millions of Christians being tortured, murdered and persecuted around the world simply for peacefully practising their faith.

Still, I suppose we should be thankful for small mercies. There is a passage in the Bible, I believe, which begins "There is more joy in heaven at one sinner who repenteth, than..." (perhaps a Bible reader can finish it off for me).

Do you think we can expect Dawkins to undergo a Damascene conversion soon? Perhaps we shouldn't hold our breath!

2 April 2010 at 13:46  
Anonymous not a machine said...

It is a wonderfull hymn .

Much to ponder today , no doubt quite few people wondering about the exposed nakedness of some ideas we have had to endure about overthrowing christianity.

The descent into darkness ,as jesus carried his cross , pushed on , bleeding in pain carrying the exhibition of his death , to make a path for others to follow to live a good life and see the lord.

As if fullfilled earthly desires explained it all , there is somthing more , realtional and only percieved in its own scale.

2 April 2010 at 13:58  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Your Grace I wish to associate myself with the sentiments expressed by Dawkins and wish you and those all of this faith a Happy Easter and peace.

2 April 2010 at 14:37  
Anonymous Trencherbone said...

One of Islam's main selling points and methods of encroaching into the spiritual vacuum left by declining Christianity is to attack the Trinity (claiming that Christians are polytheists), and to say that Allah has no son. This is blatant hypocrisy because Muslims worship a meteorite shaped like a lady's anatomy, and Allah originally had three daughters who were later conveniently forgotten about. A vigorous reaffirmation of the Trinity may be in order.

2 April 2010 at 15:13  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Graham Wood said...

“Most opposition to the Christian Gospel is based on ignorance, or prejudice, not on firmly rooted intellectual, or rational argument.”

The Christian Gospel is irrelevant if there is no God. It doesn’t matter how beautiful the language, if it is based on an illusion. Christianity is clothed in centuries of tradition, it has infected many cultures with its threats and promises, it has expropriated morality as if somehow invented it. It tells us that we are a Christian country, which we no longer are.

Nononny asks me to have a day off as this is a special day for you. But how special? It surprises many that for such an important event in your religion, the date is so uncertain. Perhaps it was as a result of being bolted on to the Pagan fertility festivals following the Spring Eqinox. Christianity has always sought to obliterate any belief system that it came across and this was particularly so during the expansion of the British Empire when many indigenous belief systems were wiped out by Christian missionaries, who assumed that their God was best.

This arrogance and certainty is still with us combined with the hurt feelings that something that you cherish is rubbished by someone like me. Well Graham Wood is right your end is not nigh yet and I will not live to see the day when rational thought will supplant superstition, so as he says, I will have to live with it. However I will do my small part to hasten its demise.

PS You are very welcome to return the “compliment” at http://www.cambridgesecularsociety.co.uk/

2 April 2010 at 15:25  
Anonymous len said...

Isaiah 53:3-5

He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.

But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.

2 April 2010 at 15:54  
Anonymous len said...

There were ten thousand or more reasons for people to love Jesus and not one reason to hate him. The four Gospels portray him as kind, patient, long-suffering, full of tenderness, forgiving, willing that no person should perish. He is called a shepherd, a teacher, a brother, a light in darkness, a physician, an advocate, a reconciler. Jesus gave no cause whatsoever that he should be hated by anyone.

So, what did Christ do that he should be so despised, both in his own day and today? Simply put, the world hated him because he came as a light to deliver them from darkness.

Jesus declared himself to be the light of the world: “I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8:12). Yet Christ also tells us, “Every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved” (3:20).

2 April 2010 at 16:00  
Blogger Bryan said...

no nonny,

The invasion by atheists of Christian "sites", aggressive, arrogant or otherwise, are part and parcel of our Lord's awesome plan.

Today we remember our Lord Crucified, dead and buried. And as we reflect on the throngs of angry, hate-filled people involved in the world's most unseemly crime; let us not forget that each and every one of us is as guilty in our own sins as those who were present, reviling and spitting upon our Lord.

Today as remember our Lord, lifted up on a tree, cursed, let us not forget the pronouncement He made over that crowd of mockers, scorners, abusers. "Father! Forgive them! For they know not what they do!"

That our Lord, after being scourged, whipped, beaten, cajoled, spat upon, and Crucified should show such love and concern is beyond imagination except that perhaps you have experienced His love for yourself.

All men are drawn to spectacle, and there is none greater than the one we ponder this day. Do not condemn sinners, be they blasphemers, atheists, or any of other sort, for approaching the Cross. Let them come revile and mock! They are only playing their natural part, falling into the hands of God. Let them witness the Crucifixion, let them take part as we ourselves surely have through our own sins! Even if it only be through Christians (little Christs) showing Our Lord's grace in the face of their vitriol.

We were once ourselves members of this great crowd of mockers, scorners, abusers. But the witnessing of this spectacle, the realization, the dawning of understanding that that blood, shed by that Man on that tree, was for the covering, no the removing, the cleansing of our very act of placing Him there upon (through the auspices of all of our failures, rebellions, evils!) from the sight even the very remembrance of God Almighty brings us up short in awe and wonder.

"It is finished", our Lord said at the last. "It is paid in full" could also be the translation. Our Lord hangs dead, lifeless on the cross. Soon to be taken down, His side pierced, but not a bone broken, all in accordance to the prophecies from hundreds of years before. His body hastily washed and laid in a tomb, just as the Sabbath is about to begin.

But Sunday is coming!

2 April 2010 at 17:09  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Bryan....as you say : ''Sunday is coming!''

God bless all here, and let us not despair. For all our myriad faults and pettiness, let us embrace the kernel of our faith and plant it, so it may flourish and endure.

2 April 2010 at 17:47  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Davis misinterprets me, and his first mistake is to assume that I ask him for anything. I do not: I know the limitations of his breed.

Rather, my comments reference blindness to grace and graciousness, and the consequent failure of militant anti-Christians: they cannot respond in kind to those gifts. In the present context, atheists infest this blog-site, but they are unable to discern, let alone appreciate, the tolerance maintained herein.

Yes, Mr. Bryan - I agree that we all have a place somewhere along this scale of blindness. Indeed, as I wrote I saved time by leaving out the quote "They know not what they do" ... I believe we are all in earth so as to learn.

Please observe, too, that I included a prayer for those who participate in the Crucifixion. There would have been no Crucifixion and no Redemption without them, would there? Is that dynamic not at the heart of the Christian Paradox? God willed that we all contribute to our Redemption - willy nilly [wolle nolle], as it were.

As for going anywhere near the vomit-inducing, barbaric darkness Davis proffers though - why ever would I venture closer to Hell than I have to? Like Chaucer's Geffrey, I'd rather try to move in the other direction.

Len has the right answers.


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This time, may I pray that Our Lord will especially bless Your Grace and your Communicants.

Apologies to everyone for my earlier typos - had to rush for various deadlines in response to a secular bureaucracy that doesn't stop for Good Friday. The town, however, has lots of churches - and all hold very well-attended evening services today. Deo Gratias.

2 April 2010 at 18:20  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Mr John Malcomson says:
'There is a passage in the Bible, I believe, which begins "There is more joy in heaven at one sinner who repenteth, than..." (perhaps a Bible reader can finish it off for me).

Okay, Mr M, this Bible reader thinks it says that there will be joy among the angels of heaven over one sinner that repents. I don't think (on recollection, without looking it up) that there is a 'more' or 'than' in it.

However, I think some may be a little over-optimistic about Dr Dawkins's late acquisition of light. I suspect he simply missed out the 'batter word': 'even' (as in 'even you should be able to see that.'). He probably thought to say, "I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something even worse.

2 April 2010 at 19:01  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

I think it can be a waste of time playing dick sizes with people who believe different things. I like to think that each new day is an opportunity to garner new information that will alter some of the things I like to believe.

Happy Easter

2 April 2010 at 19:44  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

One thing that stands out above any faith for me is the fact that when you die, you are dead.

Get over this stumbling block and life can really open up by living in the moment. Everything else should be considered as either useful or potentially useful, or of no real use to making life a better experience.

I have noticed that even Jesus had to die; the Buddha passed away, Mohammad snuffed it also; so it is a foregone conclusion for me that death means no more Coca Cola and crisps and DVDs. What you then chose to believe happens afterwards is only relative.

Jesus was resurrected; so they say, so they say. Buddha hit the Nirvana plain and dropped out of the wheel of mundacity - perfect. Mohammad is screwing lots of kids, very nice; but they all kicked the bucket down here.

2 April 2010 at 20:22  
Anonymous len said...

Christianity is different from all other 'religions'.
God doesn`t intend to give man a ten point plan to improve himself.The cross is a symbol of death. It stands for the abrupt, violent end of a human being. The man in Roman times who took up his cross and started down the road had already said good-by to his friends. He was not coming back. He was going out to have it ended. The cross made no compromise, modified nothing, spared nothing; it slew all of the man, completely and for good. It did not try to keep on good terms with its victim. It struck cruel and hard, and when it had finished its work, the man was no more.

The race of Adam is under death sentence. There is no commutation and no escape. God cannot approve any of the fruits of sin, however innocent they may appear or beautiful to the eyes of men. God salvages the individual by liquidating him and then raising him again to newness of life.

That evangelism which draws friendly parallels between the ways of God and the ways of men is false to the Bible and cruel to the souls of its hearers. The faith of Christ does not parallel the world, it intersects it. In coming to Christ we do not bring our old life up onto a higher plane; we leave it at the cross. The corn of wheat must fall into the ground and die.



God offers life, but not an improved old life. The life He offers is life out of death. It stands always on the far side of the cross. Whoever would possess it must pass under the rod. He must repudiate himself and concur in God's just sentence against him.



What does this mean to the individual, the condemned man who would find life in Christ Jesus? How can this theology be translated into life? Simply, he must repent and believe. He must forsake his sins and then go on to forsake himself. Let him cover nothing, defend nothing, excuse nothing. Let him not seek to make terms with God, but let him bow his head before the stroke of God's stern displeasure and acknowledge himself worthy to die.

Having done this let him gaze with simple trust upon the risen Saviour, and from Him will come life and rebirth and cleansing and power. The cross that ended the earthly life of Jesus now puts an end to the sinner; and the power that raised Christ from the dead now raises him to a new life along with Christ.

2 April 2010 at 21:32  
Anonymous sydneysider said...

Beautiful words from Isaiah.Thanks Len

3 April 2010 at 05:51  
Anonymous Tancred said...

Brown just wants the "Catholic Vote".

What a numpty!

He and his International Marxist/Socialist cabal have spent 13 years (actually, many more) destroying faith, community cohesion, national culture and morality.

They have lost the Catholic vote.

Does he think we are all stupid?

They have pandered to the gays, lesbians, muslims, all sorts of immigrants - even to the extent of importing a few million to Gerrymander the vote - and Scottish/Welsh Nationalism.

They have Balkanised the country.

Now they see middle of the road Brits moving back to the Tories.

Tories are moving to UKIP.

Working Class Britons are moving to the BNP.

Now Labour only has idiots, minorities and State Employees/benefit junkies to vote for them.

In Balkanising the country they have, thankfully, Balkanised UK Politics.

They didn't see that one coming did they!

3 April 2010 at 08:03  
Blogger srizals said...

len said...
Isaiah 53:3-5
"..
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;.."
What about this one len?
(Deuteronomy 24:16) - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."
Now why did god punished his only son for the sins of man? Could you please enlighten me?

3 April 2010 at 16:13  
Blogger srizals said...

Another one len, before I go to sleep,

(Ezekiel 18:20) - "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."

Is it related to the original sin?

3 April 2010 at 16:27  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Srizals - the Old Testament scriptures you quote refer to men, not to God. God the Father is not any old father; and He does not sin. God the Son is unique among sons; and He, being one with the Father, does not sin.

Christians follow the teachings of Christ, God the Son, as described New Testament; which is a continuation and fulfillment of the Old. From there, we recognize that, in sacrificing His only Son, God provided a gift to mankind in terms that we poor benighted, sin-repeating, materialistic idiots have the capacity to understand: human sacrifice.

Have you not noticed how human beings love to kill? To deprive any living thing, especially each other of the 'mortal coil' that we think so wonderful? God reversed the usual human practice and sacrificed the manifestation of Himself: for the blood-thirsty killers.

Christ signified an end to the practice of human sacrifice a) by converting it to ceremony, at the Last Supper; b) because the Ultimate Sacrifice - that of God Incarnate - accomplished our Redemption from sin and death. And yes, again, He presented it in terms that venal humanity can understand: 'economics.' He paid for our liberation from the death sentence occasioned by Original Sin.

Because Christ is God, He could not die. Again, though, in terms that mankind can understand: His body as man was as temporal as any other. As God, however, it 'rose again from the dead.' We believe, of course, that the souls of mankind also continue eternally. The true Death Sentence is that of eternal separation from God: who is Life.

If Christians believed that death of the human frame were the end - then how easy it would be to opt out of this vile world whenever we choose.

3 April 2010 at 18:58  
Anonymous len said...

Srizals,
this explains things a lot better than I can http://yadayahweh.com/Yada_Yahweh_Salvation.YHWH

3 April 2010 at 20:23  
Anonymous Adrian Peirson said...

And Here is Cameron saying

'Not for the first time i found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which should embrace Asian Values, not the other way round.

Cameron

Bunch of Crawlers the lot of them.


This blog is without doubt the best blog in the entire universe your Grace,

PS, you couldn't lend me a fiver till pay day could you.

The Great British people have been sold down the river, we need to divorce ourselves from these Treasonous Genocidal creeps and become engaged to someone who actually cares for us.

4 April 2010 at 10:36  
Blogger srizals said...

Thank you no nonny for the explanation, thanks for the link len. I'll be back.

4 April 2010 at 13:44  
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