Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Gordon Brown, hypocrisy and bigotry

All that Gillian Duffy (a life-long Labour supporter) attempted to do was discuss the issue of immigration. She observed: "You can't say anything about immigrants. All these eastern Europeans - where are they coming from?"

Gordon Brown was patient with her, and said to her face: "Very nice to meet you, very nice to meet you."

He then said behind her back: "That was a disaster - they should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that? It's just ridiculous... she was just a bigoted woman."

This episode is rather timely after what His Grace posted earlier today.

A bigot is now anyone who happens to disagree with a point of view, especially if those views are concerning matters of religion, immigration or sexuality.

Even intelligent commentators seem to think it unarguable that deeply-held beliefs against immigration, homosexuality or some religious beliefs are bigoted. Anyone who maintains their view in the face of modern social pressure is only following their conviction, which is often rooted in faith. The word ‘bigot’ does have an accepted meaning: it is the obstinate and blind, often nasty and hypocritical, attachment to a particular creed. No doubt some people who oppose immigration or homosexual relationships are indeed like this — venting hatred towards foreigners or homosexuals. But many are decent, conscientious and thoughtful.

Isn’t it rather bigoted, in fact, to assume that your opponents on certain issues are bigots?

And isn't it rather hypocritical to pretend to enjoy meeting life-long Labour supporters when it is evident that Gordon Brown holds them in utter contempt?

The mouth speaks what the heart is full of.

What sort of 'ordinary, middle-class' man from an ordinary town would be so pompous, patronising and duplicitous? On the day of the final Leaders' Debate, this is a devastating and potentially fatal blow to Gordon Brown's campaign. The people want authenticity: Gordon Brown is not only incapable of expressing the virtue, he is evidently socially retarded.


Anonymous Alaric said...

I nearly brought up my lunch watching Mandy's attempt at damage control. At last, we see the real Gordon.

28 April 2010 at 15:08  
Anonymous Rebel Saint said...

Well thank God, the Brown stuff has well and truly hit the fan.

And I do see this as a potential bit of divine intervention. That the stage managed, media managed, spun doctored, PR massaged face of party politics has slipped is surely a God send to our democracy. The utter contempt they have for the electorate. Maybe at last people will waken out of their slumber? I hope & pray.

28 April 2010 at 15:10  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

'A bigot is now anyone who happens to disagree with a point of view, especially if those views are concerning matters of religion, immigration or sexuality.'

So here's a real example of genuine, foam-flecked, hate-filled, one-hundred-percent, cast-iron bigotry:

'Philip Lardner's views are deeply offensive and unacceptable and as a result he has been suspended as a member of the Conservative party. We ... do not support Mr Lardner’s candidacy in the North Ayrshire and Arran constituency. These views have no place in the modern Conservative party.'

The Modern Conservative Party may not have used the 'B' word to describe Lardner's opinions, but it certainly exemplified bigotry in its own pronunciamento.

Brown's description of Mrs Duffy is itself also an example of bigotry. He has therefore moved himself down to the same bigotry quotient reached yesterday by the Conservatives.

Because it is now too late for further nominations, this means that the Modern Conservative bigots would prefer to have no candidate standing rather than a genuine conservative.

Remind us, Cranny, which bigot is it that you want us to vote for?

28 April 2010 at 15:18  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Anabaptist,

His Grace has always maintained and long said that Christians in a liberal democracy have an obligation to vote for the lesser evil.

28 April 2010 at 15:24  
Blogger Peter said...

"What you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, what you have whispered behind closed doors will be shouted from the the housetops for all to hear" - Luke 12v3

Integrity = being the same behind closed (car) doors as in the front of them.

28 April 2010 at 15:27  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

I know, Cranny, but the word 'lesser' implies that there are only two choices, which is manifestly not the case.

UKIP came second in the popular vote in the last Euro elections.

In any event, I find it difficult to agree that the Modern Conservatives are so obviously a lesser evil, as they are masquerading behind the pretence implicit in their use of the word 'conservative' to describe their party. At least we all know what Brown and his incompetent gang stand for.

28 April 2010 at 15:45  
Anonymous William Wallace said...

Worse still he has now descended on this poor woman's home with his army of humourless, besuited minders and the ugly press to insist she accepts his apology.


28 April 2010 at 15:51  
Blogger Don't Call Me Dave said...

"All these eastern Europeans - where are they coming from?"

At a guess, Eastern Europe.

28 April 2010 at 16:06  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

This sums up not only Labours idea of people opposed to mass immigration, but all three main parties. Most people I know think that immigration and the EU is a problem for many reasons and yet we don't dare say too much in public or we get this kind of reaction.

We truly are going to Hell in a hand cart and I dread to think what the future holds for us as a Nation, in fact I doubt we will be a Nation much longer.

UKIP for me and if they are not available to vote for, BNP.

28 April 2010 at 16:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I subscribed to His Grace's views about supporting the lesser evil and was going to vote (for the 1st time) Conservative in one of the tightest 3 way maginals in the country.

Congratualtions to the Conservative party in their (mis)handling of Philip Lardner. I've now decided that it's much better to vote (il)libral Democrates seeing as their candidate has signed up to the Westminster Declaration, rather than a Cons party member who refuses.

I never thought I'd dream of voting Lib Dems, and though I'd prefer a Cons govt, I'd prefer an MP who has a little bit of backbone.

28 April 2010 at 16:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NB- Cons candidate refuses to say one way or the other, at the demands I understand it of Cons HQ

28 April 2010 at 16:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

I seem to recall one of Tony Blairs’ officials once describing those of the working class who read The Sun newspaper as scum.

Now Brown describes a Labour-voting pensioner, who still intends to vote Labour, as a bigot.

My, the Socialists must be so confident of winning the General Election that they can abuse their core voters.

This episode also shows those who disagree with the Socialists the kind of treatment to expect should Brown remain in Number 10.

28 April 2010 at 17:09  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Brown has been to the poor woman's house and apologised, saying that he had 'misunderstood' the woman's question.

Hmmm. I have listened to the exchange several times and find it difficult to see how anybody could have 'misunderstood' what she said. I have been wondering what Brown would say, given that he couldn't trot out the usual 'I was taken out of context' excuse, beloved of politicians caught out by their own words.

No doubt The Lord Mandelson thought up the latest piece of weaseling. 'I misunderstood what she said.'

Oh, that's alright, then. I misunderstood what the tax laws said. I misunderstood the speed limit. I misunderstood the requirement to check (and photocopy) documents presented as bona fides by my prospective cleaner. Seems to work well in a variety of situations.

And didn't you just love the 'I was only being helpful to the broadcasting orgnaisations by having a radio microphone attached to my coat.'

It all sounds like Billy Bunter: It wasn't me, and even if it was, nobody saw me, and even if they did, it wasn't my fault.

28 April 2010 at 17:36  
Blogger Gnostic said...

The worst (or best?) case of foot in mouth syndrome I've ever seen.


28 April 2010 at 17:38  
Anonymous John said...

What a sad commentary on the modern Politician that we have allowed to run the country since TB bailed out with his golden parachute.

GB deserves his place in history as the rudest, most ignorant and incompetent PM since Jim Callaghan, and worse, at Least Jim Callaghan was honest and had integrity.

Bring back Maggie, all is forgiven.

28 April 2010 at 17:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Final Nail, can we bury him now.

Insular is the word for it, she is an islander of a kind. With no need for a broad view, because the sight of her own backyard says it all.

Signed: Isaac Lulles

28 April 2010 at 17:49  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Leviathan has been reborn and tries through its ciphers to force Obeisance just as any Roman Emperor, Pharaoh, or Soviet Generalissimo.

The German Government is readying itself to ignore 90% German public opinion and saddle Germany with 25 billion Euros of Debt to bail out Greece which now needs 145 billion Euros. That this requires primary legislation and means funding for children on Hartz IV income support in Germany is pushed aside is secondary to The Project.

On 9th May Merkel's party will face disaster in the most populous state - NRW. Shortly thereafter Geert Wilders will find out the results in The Netherlands. Even Portugal has to fork over to Greece yet faces disaster itself.

Politicians engaging in a Deaf Man's Dialogue with Voters is widespread in Europe and the outcome must be Violence. Riots in Greece because politicians squandered money on Olympics, Euro Membership, grandiose schemes and left the Voters with the bills for decades to come.

The polities of Central Europe collapsed once the USSR could not supply discounted oil to sustain them, and repay the foreign it looks as if Western Europe will crumble.

Merkel is bringing Germany towards disaster. Today 25% Federal Government spending is borrowed....and her government has racked up the biggest increase in debt in postwar history. The IMF has warned Germany of impending insolvency.

When Germany goes Britain will be crushed as they have a far better credit rating. Greece will take everything down - Spain has been downgraded today. There is no credibility left in the system.

Gordon Brown has today encapsulated what people feel about politicians

28 April 2010 at 18:25  
Blogger Ginro said...

And considering how many voters fell for all the smoke and mirror rubbish with TB three times, despite damning examples as to why they shouldn't have, what's the betting that Gillian Duffy still votes for Labour anyway?

28 April 2010 at 18:42  
Anonymous Oswin said...

What a prat, what a fool, what a waster! I rejoice that Brown has been caught out! The man even bites his fingernails ffs!

28 April 2010 at 18:58  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

A bit late in the day for my comment but I have only just got home from work - But what a classic exposure of the real Brown.

28 April 2010 at 19:12  
Anonymous Oswin said...

'Son of the Manse' my arse!

The man is nowt but a bully and a guttersnipe.

Fools, amateurs, and bunglers.....and a vote for Clegg would bring more of the same.

They will not hear the voice of Britain; they refuse to listen!

28 April 2010 at 19:31  
Anonymous Katy said...

The biggest form of blindness ever - he couldn't even see he was wrong!

He was only doing the newsmedia a favour by wearing the microphone, which carried on recording (how dare it!) his private conversation, therefore it didn't really happen.
He was deeply mortified by the remarks; not, you note, that he'd bloody said them, oh no!
He completely misunderstood the plain English Mrs Duffy was talking, so that's alright.
He's apologised, but only 'if' he caused upset.

He did however, point out that sometimes YOU make mistakes, YOU use wrong words, and when you do, YOU should withdraw the remarks; then you should apologise. That latter bit was the only part he actually ascribed to himself, and he didn't even do so properly.

Sounds to me as though he's suffering from the classic mistake of only being aggrieved that he was caught.

28 April 2010 at 19:55  
Anonymous no nonny said...

What lovely fun! ... Watching the commie tactics backfire, I mean.

And what a great example of how to help them destroy themselves. All that technology they use to spy on us can work both ways! All we have to do is leave the mike on, for example.

Oh - and plant a few redoubtable northern lasses (this one doesn't look her age) in the media vanguard. This one would have done a better job in Opposition than DC has!

28 April 2010 at 20:01  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

All together now - "Gordon is a Moron, Gordon is a Moron"

As a put down to Mrs Duffy's concerns he mouthed the old crap that there are a million Brits working on the other side of the English Channel - no one ever seems to point out that one million in to a single country compared to one million in the other 26 - does not compute as equal.

But what doe the Tory manifesto say: -

Dave on immigration:-

Our immigration policy is based on four strands - and that’s just about all they are.

We will introduce an annual limit on the numbers of non-EU economic migrants allowed to work here taking into consideration the effects a rising population has on our public services and local communities

Yeah Dave, but – Why no specifics? It's not like we really need all the educated Australians, Canadians, Americans, South Africans or New Zealanders any way – what with their coming over here and showing up our own inadequate pool of unemployables and scamsters, now do we Dave. Why can’t he discriminate?
What’s wrong with even tempting back qualified indigenous ex-patriots with a ‘golden hello’ new deal?

The limit would change each year to take into account ‘the wider effects’ of immigration on society

Oh he must mean the one the blessed St Margaret said didn’t exist?. And what are the ‘ wider effects’ exactly? – this is supposed to be a vote winning election ‘policy’ promise? IDTS.

We will work to prevent illegal migration with a dedicated Border Police Force

How will this be different from working with the present Border Protection Agency? – doesn’t say - Probably be just a name change then.

We will introduce’ important new rules’ to tighten up the student visa system, which at the moment is the biggest hole in our border controls

How un-original. Rules such as??? – Zippo detail - another fudge.

Students have foreign national identity cards. We have the e-Border counting in and counting out," already a Nu-Lab cry

"The biggest hole in the student visa system is caused by the Tory and Labour abolition of exit checks, which means we do not know if someone has left once their visa runs out," Hune Lib-Dem

May I suggest he considers deploying the Brigade of Ghurkas to take complete charge of our borders – no holds barred – no costly appeals. Perhaps a poster campaign in Nepal featuring Joanna Lumley posing Kitcheneresque (even with a moustache) saying “Our Country Needs YOU!” (a Joke here Mr.Singh)

We will promote integration into British society -

He can ‘promote’ as much as he likes, nothing will change unless he is resolute and more explicit by what he intends as suitably integrated - just sounds like more multi-culty crap from the self styled heir to Blair. He misses up an opportunity to integrate back into ‘society’ the 5million or so benefit scroungers by instilling a positive work ethic in to a guaranteed supine labour force, available for any new public works plans for the price of their drain on the tax payers.

There will be an English language test for anyone coming here to get married

Revolutionary Conservatism Dave or what! What’s the point? They only have to repeat verbatim, the words of celebrant any way, and what if they don’t want to get married as per the current social norms? Or what if the ‘marriage’ is, as per the Muslim custom of more than one wife? Oh well as long as they’re married then.

A Conservative government would also apply transitional controls as a matter of course for all future EU entrants

Such as? – and How? – Doesn’t say.

Gordon is a moron - but Dave's policies offer nothing better he's still a hide-bound PCer

28 April 2010 at 20:12  
Blogger Marie1797 said...

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and to voice them. The conservatives were silly to suspend Philip Lardner just because he voiced his about gays even though they went against the parties ideas on homosexuals. His opinion is actually very sensible and they should take on board what he said especially about teaching homosexuality to young children.

And Gordon, well we all know he's got the people skills of gnat that poor women's feelings were smarting after hearing Gordon's stinging remarks about her. But I'll bet anyone that she will vote Labour again because that's what she's always done and it feels safe.

28 April 2010 at 20:13  
Blogger Young Mr. Brown said...

Interesting post, Your Grace. I think that you are onto something.

For myself, I'm not shocked by the fact that the Prime Minister is two-faced, or that he holds many Labour voters in contempt. To be honest, a lot of people are two-faced, and if the ordinary people that I know are two-faced, I would be surprised if most politicians were not. And I fully expect politicians to hold voters in contempt. So I can't find it in myself to be shocked at the PM, or to throw the first (or 2nd, or 3rd) stone.

No, the thing that bothers me is that he used the B word.

Labelling people as bigots - even if one has no proof that they are - seems to dominate political discourse in modern Britain.

28 April 2010 at 23:30  
Blogger Young Mr. Brown said...

p.s. Not that I'm saying that all accusations of bigotry are wrong.

I rather suspect, for example, that Mr. Anabaptist is quite correct in his assertions.

28 April 2010 at 23:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What sort of 'ordinary, middle-class' man from an ordinary town would be so pompous, patronising and duplicitous?

Em, quite a few actually. C'mon guys, we've all done it; listened to someone bending our ear and then letting off steam afterwards. Gordon's mistake was to forget that there's always some twat hanging around with a mike to record you when you're PM. Always treat a microphone as if it is live, as Jim Hacker said..

28 April 2010 at 23:33  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Theresa this case it was actually the ''twat'' who was wearing the microphone!

29 April 2010 at 00:13  
Anonymous not a machine said...

was Mr Philip Lardener bigotted ?? When does a view get turned into that of a bigots ?, the ripples of this are all too timely and in some ways inevitable , thanks to Mr Blairs reliagnment into a presidential format .

However mrs Duffy was treated badly by the leader of a party that her whole family had voted for most of their lives , it always nice to meet the leader of your party , to feel part of a political argument . Today marked a turning point and this election may indeed be one that the people have there say on the ramming down of spin and lies that has taken place and its corruptions of governance , for all was laid bare when mrs duffy listened to the 15 sec recording played back from a TV vans editing suite
mrs Duffy was cast as biggoted because she asked the wrong sort of question , the same question that people like her discuss up and down the country , at the pubs and shops without the burden of having to construct a slick word construction. What does the debt mean for my grandkids ?, what does immigration mean ? .
The labour party for whome her loyalty over the decades had remained rock solid, was no longer her party , quick hustler her away , its bad PR , we cant have people thinking she is Labour .
I wouldnt mind but I have witnessed the very same thing by other parties all too weak to only want what is pleasing to the ear and nice on the eye . That is presidential politics and I regrett Labour ever making full use of it in the UK , for it allowed whole swathes of views to be compressed into the pleasing one, of educated spin production and tariff of non compliance .

he didnt like what she said but was hostile that anything she felt unhappy about was beaneath him and so the dilemma of the traditional voter was exposed as they were forced to take biege or be shunned .

I expect the public will be less shy from now on upto may 6th and in some ways it has been comming since the 1997 guilded cheap version of politics wooed so many (me included) onlt to discover it was fake .

29 April 2010 at 00:59  
Anonymous Oswin said...

not a machine ...excellent post!

I just hope that Mrs.Duffy puts er 'X' where it will hurt most...a pity it couldn't be affixed to a pointy stick!

29 April 2010 at 01:08  
Blogger LaMirabelle said...

What I don't like is the double language. The lady is intitled to raising her question and Gordon Brown is intitled in thinking X or Y is a bigot. If he had tried to ruin her reputation on TV on purpose, it would be different.
So give him a break and let's concentrate on the issues.

If you still don't know who to vote for, try the vote-u-lator:
But be warned, it concluded my friends and I were conservatives, so I wonder who paid for this. Come on James, admit it.

29 April 2010 at 06:56  
Anonymous Tony said...

John 8.7

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone

29 April 2010 at 07:37  
Anonymous Mikec said...

We all need to understand that Socialism is a political religion and thus all heretics are 'bigots' or 'nazis' of 'facists' by definition.

The words are meaningless in a larger context and reflect more on the limited intellectual horizons of their utterers.

Brown BELIEVES that we are all born equal, but that he of course is the first among those equals...

29 April 2010 at 08:01  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Voyager said...
Merkel is bringing Germany towards disaster. When Germany goes Britain will be crushed.

Still pushing the feel-good factor, go on tell us some really bad news!

My guess is that the gaff has confirmed what many already thought, that Brown is an irascible man who is not comfortable with “people”. That should have ruled him out as PM but his “brilliance” as chancellor and his pact with Blair made his position unassailable within the Labour Party.

I think that Greece will play a much bigger part in tonight’s debate than Mrs Bigot and Clegg will be put under intense scrutiny regarding Europe and the Euro. I reckon tomorrows polls will see a drop in LibDem support and a gain in the Tory’s.

29 April 2010 at 08:14  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

I have just heard yet another Alan Johnson interview where he is "defending" his boss, The Labour leadership contest has started!

29 April 2010 at 08:20  
Anonymous pedant said...

I honestly thought Mr Brown called her "a bigoted woman" as a term of praise and endearment, in the sense that "Here we have a person of limited intellectual calibre who is incapable of submitting her prejudices to rational analysis - and that's just the sort of person we need in the Labour Party."

Rum, I thought, she seems sensible enough to me.

Then he goes and apologises! What are we to think?

Incidentally, "bigot" is a word of uncertain derivation, but is supposed to come from a late medieval Spanish word for a large moustache.

Just thought you'd like to know.

29 April 2010 at 08:49  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

That bloody Sue better watch out....keep away from mobile phones, printers and staple guns!

29 April 2010 at 09:12  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

Mc Broon is doomed, - doomed, ah say Doomed.

29 April 2010 at 09:29  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Tory spin doctors to sell Mrs Bigot story

Who will play Mrs Duffy? Joan Simms would have been a natural but is no longer with us. Perhaps Patricia Routledge can be persuaded to play her.

There is a strong case for giving Gillian Duffy a peerage. She has revealed the true Gordon Brown..

My own information reveals that Mrs Bigot is in fact a BNP supporter, who was led the infamous Rochdale Kebab Van riots in the 80’s. Her rivers of chilli sauce speech is remembered by all who witnessed it. If Broon’s aides had been doing their job properly they would have suggested Broon grab at her hair and wrench off the wig she wears and so reveal her shaved and swastika tattooed head.

29 April 2010 at 09:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bigot, extremist, fascist, Nazi. What I find strange is that Labour, Conservatives and the media always use such words when describing anyone that supports or votes for a certain party that has for years been campaigning against mass immigration. Yet, when a Labour activist dares to voice concern the media are all over her in mock sympathy. It’s quite clear that all three main parties have not the slightest intention of doing anything about the problem they’ve created and now deliberately encourage to keep them in power, never mind having a ‘serious debate about the issue’ as they always claim that they want to but, somehow, always manage to avoid. I’ll bet Mrs. Duffy still votes Labour. She’s a Labour lemming. I’ve been a Tory lemming for nearly forty years. But because I’m a ‘bigot’ too, at this general election, for the first time, I’m going to vote for a party that is serious about this major issue that we’re not allowed to talk about. And it’s not UKIP.

29 April 2010 at 10:18  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Is not voting for the lesser of the two evils,still evil?How about voting for the English people for a change,for thier rights, thier welfare,thier future,they are us and we are them,we did not flee,when the going got tough,half-way around the world to parasitise some-one elses country,we did not vote to become a communist third world sewer,our "leaders"have betrayed every last one of us,no matter what political ideology they pretend to be,we do not matter because we do not shout,we have no rights because we do not demand them as a nation and we have no free speech because we have allowed a tiny claque of communists to cut the tongue from our mouths and impose thier will upon us,and no-one can be unaware that if they vote for any of them, the outcome will be just more of the same,if you do not remove them they will ultimately remove you,and you will not even be allowed to have your "civilised" debates on the internet without thier approval.this is the last chance to vote for your country,vote ENGLAND.

29 April 2010 at 10:51  
Blogger Preacher said...

A common trait of humanity is to hide behind a mask "I didn't understand what you said" or "It wasn't my fault Lord, it was the woman that YOU gave me".
Seems to me that the bigots & actors (Hypocrites) are starting to lose their public masks over Lardner & this lady, Your turn for a gaff Cleggy!.

29 April 2010 at 11:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace
Would you Adam ‘n’ Eve it? Now I know why each of these Left-liberal bigots always fancy themselves as James Stewart in that old movie: Twelve Angry Men.

The first cracks in British Left-liberalsim are appearing! This is Tim Finch of the left-wing thin-tank the IPPR on the issue of immigration (the tird paragraph reveals why they are bigots):

‘More migrants entering the UK does not equal a more progressive attitude to migration. Those who make the case for a fairer migration policy would do well to question their own position.

‘Ever since the 1960s, progressives have been bemoaning the drift towards what we have seen as ever more restrictive and reactionary immigration policies. We have asked ourselves endlessly how we can put across the progressive case for migration in a more effective way. But these discussions are always based on the assumption that our case is truly progressive – an assumption I think we need to question. By ‘unpacking’ our case we might find that along with some cherished possessions, there are a few things in there which have been weighing us down and which we would do well to junk.

‘Part of the reason for this relatively unquestioning attitude to the justice of our arguments is the very fact that they have proved so unpopular. There is nothing that convinces a progressive more that they are in the right than finding that most people disagree with them. A particularly unfortunate element of this syndrome in relation to migration is a tendency to characterise our opponents as nasty, stupid and backward. By so doing, we give ourselves license to either patronise or ignore them. But it is not the case that the classic progressive view on migration – which I will summarise below – is disputed only by extremists, such as the BNP. In fact, as must now be obvious to us, the vast majority of mainstream public opinion does not see the logic or the ethics of our case. Of course, there are sometimes strong arguments for ‘drawing a line’ on an important issue and standing up for what you believe to be right even if you are standing out against prevailing orthodoxy. But the other way to approach this problem is to question your own position.’

29 April 2010 at 12:55  
Anonymous len said...

1 Cor 4:5b (Phi) He will bring into the light of day all that at present is hidden in darkness, and he will expose the secret motives of men's hearts.

( Don`t know if anyone else has said this but it bears repeating)

29 April 2010 at 13:33  
Blogger David said...

It's official: anyone concerned about immigration’s effect on housing, services & crime since 1997 is just a 'bigot'. So much for Brown's desire for tonight's TV debate to focus on policy. Probably just as well given the mess Labour have got the country into. Again.
This government instigated a secret policy of mass immigration ('Don't listen to the whingers-London needs immigrants' which could potentially, and regardless of whatever we do now, have catastrophic consequences for the UK's ability to provide for its population in decades to come according to a report produced by the Government Actuary's Department ('Rising immigration could double population of Britain by 2081'
Members of this Labour government have been enriching themselves for years whilst driving down UK labour rates at the expense of their own traditional supporters, who they privately despise, and all to the decitful message of 'British jobs for British workers'. Perhaps this is really a case of the government projecting onto the general public its own reverse bigotry.
It would be a great mistake for the media and the public to assume that Gordon Brown's latest gaff means he alone is to blame. He was isolated for years in Blair's cabinet when the secret policy was enacted, members of which will surely oust him soon, win or lose, and continue as before.
I once heard a revered spiritual teacher describe such gross hypocisy as being like the smell of an open sewer or that of rotting flesh on the hottest day of the year. I said the same about the Tories in 1997 and it applies equally now: this Labour government really must be dismissed forthwith.

29 April 2010 at 14:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

D Singh - I think you meant Henry Fonda rather than Jimmy Stewart (in Twelve Angry Men). Stewart was the lead in another movie made around the same time, about one honest politician filibustering a bill put forth by corrupt politicians. That film was "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."

29 April 2010 at 19:55  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Jared Gaites 09.12

She (Sue) is reputed to be 'in hiding' - allegedly, the BNP have offered her 'witness protection' and currently have her at one of their 'safe-houses' near Rochdale, in an abandoned 'black-pudding' factory.

29 April 2010 at 20:00  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon at 19.55 (29 April)

Thank you for correcting me.

30 April 2010 at 08:07  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

No-one made all this fuss when cameron described the BNP and all of the people that voted for them as "ghastly filth".

30 April 2010 at 11:02  
Anonymous Adrian Peirson said...

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30 April 2010 at 13:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Peirson

Thank you for your post. I have been following Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean (its official title) for some time (because I would argue that it is the Beast that emerges from the Mare Nostra written about in the Book of Daniel).

It is interesting to note that the many of the nations mentioned in Psalm 83 are joining the organisation (headed by the EU): the old Roman Empire is being ressurected (however, Iraq at the moment is missing).

Poor Israel – your time is near.

30 April 2010 at 14:26  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Englishman at 11.02 - you have a point there!

3 May 2010 at 17:52  

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