Nick Clegg - more popular than Jesus
Topping the bill, upstaging the Son of God, the latest political Messiah.
Doubtless he will prove as false and disappointing as all the others.
Blessings to Paul Waugh.
posted byArchbishop Cranmer at 8:14 pm Permalink
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I hope Mr Clegg doesn't believe any of the hype.
I hope his supporters don't believe it either.
I hope that the English public are able to discern between ephmeral infatuation and basic logic; i.e. I hope they vote with their head and not their heart.
Or in other words - "Let's keep hold of nurse for fear of finding something worse".
I think the British are finally waking up to the possibility of real change.
Perhaps we should go with our hearts . . . for a change.
Yeah, let's vote for more; extreme; socialism. That's worked, hasn't it.
Forgive me John; I was under the impression that I was talking to an educated person.
My mistake.
If he had only uttered somthing that could be verified , I may not be sat here feeling wary and incredulous that yet another Blair clone socialist was working on young minds who know more about athiesim than the gospel .
I believe Mr Clegg (despite having a devout Roman catholic wife) is athiest , so I suppose he sees it as straight forward disassembly into socialism , Do I hear hoots of congratualtions from Graham Davies that phase 2 of wresting peoples conciousness from the lord Jesus Christs triumph over the law ?
Fill your bellies with as much as what you feel you like , be as a child guided under the paternal state control and benevolence, as the state now knows more about you than yourself and can ease your consumerist dilemmas and fears ?
The Church is susceptable to failings , but is fortunate that the faith is as much about birth as death .The socialists require a final death of christianity , to be replaced with knowledge as all there is and coincidence takes care of anything else .
I can see that the athiests (or humanists) may not be able to see there is much differnce between processes , but I would rather that they considered if the christians are right before seeking to eradicate them , instead of the much repeated historical acts of removing them for the crude new of wahtever material divisons they have to hand at the time .
That's my parish church - what a tragedy :-(
I'd prefer to vote using my brain, thanks. As does john in cheshire, I suspect.
It seems like the long knives are now out for Nick Clegg..
David Wheeler.
Your Grace
The poster reveals just how ignorant many of our congregations are.
The Liberal-Democrats subordinate the alleviation of poverty to further integration into the fascist European Union (‘the EU’). Indeed, the Liberal-Democrats our proud to be ‘super-nationalists’ (their description of themselves).
There is a consensus based upon sound analysis that the EU ensures that poverty remains a feature of Third world societies. The EU imposes at its borders high tariffs for sugar, for example, from the Third World whilst subsidising its own sugar production; thus ensuring that its own sugar stocks are sold whilst sugar from the Third world is left to the rain.
When the EU has been unable to sell enough sugar – it dumps its remaining stocks on the world market thus depressing the price of sugar and ensuring that people in the Third World exist by hand-to-mouth day by day.
So, let’s give a big clap and raise a cheer for those Christians in New Malden who think it’s clever and wise to invite ‘Old’ Nick.
Well done lads; the best of British luck.
Try looking at it another way. Wouldn’t Jesus be appalled by 2000 years of greed and inhumanity meted out by the churches that bear his name?
Beggar to Beggar Cried
`Time to put off the world and go somewhere
And find my health again in the sea air,'
Beggar to beggar cried, being frenzy-struck,
`And make my soul before my pate is bare.'
`And get a comfortable wife and house
To rid me of the devil in my shoes,'
Beggar to beggar cried, being frenzy-struck,
`And the worse devil that is between my thighs.'
`And though I'd marry with a comely lass,
She need not be too comely -- let it pass,'
Beggar to beggar cried, being frenzy-struck,
`But there's a devil in a looking-glass.'
`Nor should she be too rich, because the rich
Are driven by wealth as beggars by the itch,'
Beggar to beggar cried, being frenzy-struck,
`And cannot have a humorous happy speech.'
`And there I'll grow respected at my ease,
And hear among the garden's nightly peace,'
Beggar to beggar cried, being frenzy-struck,
`The wind-blown clamour of the barnacle geese.'
WB Yeats
The verification fairy strikes again with "aultoss". Says it all really...
:D
Jesus is a fictional character conjured up by Constantine for his 'Universal Church' because it was akin yo Isis and Zeus, he could then sell the idea of a state religion to the pagans. He had the original placeholders removed from the scriptures and his own formulations substituted.
The real Messiah was Yehushua (Joshua = YHWH saves), a Jew who kept Torah and indeed fulfilled Torah. Paul contradicted Yehushua, and founded a religion based upon the Greek godesses of grace (the three graces).
Yehoshua did indeed die for our sins, but he also died for the CAUSE of our sins; the aquisition of man's knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden.
Humanism is a religion based solely upon man's knowledge of good and evil, and unfortunately it is widely practised within the Christian Church.
see:
http://questioningpaul.com/Questioning_Paul-Galatians-00-Letter_to_the_Reader.Paul
Mr Mikec
'He had the original placeholders removed from the scriptures and his own formulations substituted.'
Remarkably, he left the Old Testament in tact? Why would he do that?
I hope that: ‘…based upon the Greek godesses of grace (the three graces)’ was not an oblique reference to the photograph displayed on my blog (which is not a blog).
There is, if you examine carefully, a fourth figure behind the three pictured in the photograph.
Has no one else noticed the timing of the Icelandic volcano eruption so close to the General Election. Agents working for the evil villain Lord Mandelson dropped a small nuclear device into a vent in the volcano causing it to erupt and disguising any evidence of his handiwork.
With the clandestine help of psephologists and pollsters Mandelson had cunningly calculated the number of Conservative and LibDem voters unable to return in time for the Election would be sufficient to swing the vote in his favour.
To be on the safe side he is busy organising a Dunkirk style evacuation by the royal Navy but these are restricted to Labour voting holiday hotspots like Benidorm. Those visiting Florence and Venice (LibDems) and Sharm El Sheikh (Tories) are being told they will have to stay there until the cloud disperses on May 7.
Conspiracy theory? The truth is out there.
Look at the noticeboard and the Sunday services.
BCP communion I understand - 1662, yes? Holy Communion/Morning Prayer makes sense to me. But what on earth is "Sssh Free" and Six30@ccnm?
Mr Singh
Whilst Constantine distanced 'Christianity' from the OT by changing key words, Maimoniadies, in 12 century, along with his fellow Masoretics, changed YHWH to 'Adonai', and to 'Lord'. Lord in Hebrew is baal and means a slave master. Adonai is a pagan god.
The Dead Sea Scrolls showed up this tampering of the OT in a big way.
Torah demands that the scrolls are copied in such a way that reproduction errors are mitigated, however it is very dificult, but it nigh impossible to render YHWH's Hebrew into English anyway, for example
Barak is translated as 'blessing'in the AV (based on the vulgate) but its true translation would be "he who bends a knee before us and presents us with a gift"
The gift being Messiah of course.
Adam means 'dust', but the Hebrew symbology (aleph, Dalet, mem) implies "strong doorway of blood"
The hebrew root for 'Aleph dalet' carries the meaning of strength at the doorway (where the fire was, so lots of smoke/dust/ash) hence dust.
The uprightpole runs right through the scriptures into the NT where Constantine took the placeholder and retranslated it as 'cross' (a pagan symbol)the Greek word Stauros means Upright Pole....
In Hebrew the upright pole is 'Aleph Bet', where Aleph is strength and Bet is 'home', 'the family tent'. The srength of the tent is the tentpole and the strength of the family is the Father. 'AB' in Hebrew.
This is the language which YHWH used to speak the world into existence.
Mr Mikec
Your learning impresses me.
MAM said:-
i...if he had only uttered somthing that could be verified... completely missing the glaringly obvious irony.
As does yours me Mr Singh
I’TS OFFICIAL!
Vince Cable predicted the eruption of Eyjafjallajoekull and the consequent air traffic chaos over three years ago!
The only problem is that Vince is also predicting the coming of the Twelfth Imam.
In anticipation of this great event will come the red death (volcano?) and the white death (plague). On the bright side the Twelfth Imam will be accompanied by Isa who goes by the rather more familiar name of Jesus. Every volcanic cloud has a silver lining.
Graham Davis said...
Agents working for the evil villain Lord Mandelson dropped a small nuclear device into a vent in the volcano causing it to erupt and disguising any evidence of his handiwork.
With the clandestine help of psephologists and pollsters Mandelson had cunningly calculated the number of Conservative and LibDem voters unable to return in time for the Election would be sufficient to swing the vote in his favour.
I was going to say "don't be silly", but with Lord Mandelson you can never be two sure. Which Milliband was it who said, when questioned about possibly being made Labour leader by Mandelson after the election, "Our Lord Mandelson works in mysterious ways"?
Once the most villified elected minister in history, he has now managed to be in charge of the country when Gordon was unavailable while not being elected. Indeed after dancing with little old ladies he may be Britain's most popular Lord Protector ever... or is that the one title he hasn't given himself yet?
It is good that our political leaders are engaging the faith communities.
Nick Clegg recently spoke at the Salavtion Army.
Download a copy of the Salvation Armymanifesto at www.salvationarmy.org.uk/publicaffairs
Silent Hunter (oh dear) at 22.22 -
It ill behoves the 'educated' to be quite so disparaging upon so small a provocation...
Christ accomplished his mission.
Clegg - what mission?
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