Wednesday, May 05, 2010

13 years of Labour failure

1. On economic growth

Longest and deepest recession. Gordon Brown has given Britain the longest and deepest recession on record (ONS, Time Series ABMI). Britain has had the longest recession in the G20 with six consecutive quarters of negative growth – more than any other major economy (Principal Global Indicators).

Record decline in manufacturing. Between 1997 Q2 and 2009 Q3, manufacturing as a share of GDP declined by 9.3 percentage points, from 20.7 per cent of GDP to 11.4 per cent of GDP – the fastest decline under any government since records began in 1980 (ONS Time Series QTPI & QVYR).

2. On national debt

Largest budget deficit. In 2010, the UK is expected to have the largest budget deficit of any major economy at 11.4 per cent of GDP (IMF, World Economic Outlook Database).

National debt has doubled – and is set to double again. Gordon Brown has doubled the national debt. In fact, on Labour’s own figures, by 2014-15 Gordon Brown would have quadrupled the national debt compared to 1997 (HM Treasury, Public Finances Databank, Table A7).

3. On jobs

Record economic inactivity. 8.16 million working age people are classed as economically inactive – the highest number since records began in 1971 (ONS, Labour Market Statistics, April 2010).

Youth unemployment rising again. Under Labour, youth unemployment reached a record high, and now it is rising again. One in five young people is unable to find a job (ONS, Labour Market Statistics, April 2010).

4. On government waste

Billions spent on quangos. There are now 1,148 quangos which employ 534,000 staff and cost the taxpayer £90 billion (Taxpayers Alliance, ACA to YJB: A Guide to the UK’s Semi-Autonomous Public Bodies, 26 October 2009).

NHS computer system has doubled in cost. The new NHS computer system was originally intended to cost £6.2 billion but costs have now doubled to over £13 billion (Public Accounts Committee, The National Programme for IT in the NHS, March 2007; National Audit Office, The National Programme for IT in the NHS: Progress since 2006, 16 May 2008).

DCFS contemplation suite and massage room. £3 million has been spent on lavish new offices at the Department of Children, Schools and Families, including a massage room and a contemplation suite (The Daily Mail, 29 September 2009).

5. On the NHS

More deaths from hospital infections than road accidents. There have been almost 44,000 deaths from MRSA and Clostridium difficile under Labour (ONS, 19 August 2009; Hansard, 10 September 2008, Col.1882WA). Hospital-acquired infections now kill more than three times as many people as are killed on the roads every year (Department for Transport, Road Casualties in Great Britain 2008, 24 September 2009).

Number of managers growing faster than nurses. The number of managers in the NHS is increasing more than five times as fast as the number of nurses (NHS workforce statistics, 25 March 2010).

Cancer death rates some of the worst in Europe. There are still more deaths from cancer in the UK than in most other European countries. Germany, for example, has almost 10 per cent fewer deaths from cancer than we do. And the gap between the number of deaths from cancer in Europe and the UK has progressively widened since 1997 (OECD Health Data 2009).

6. On schools

School standards falling. The UK has fallen down the world league tables in English, maths and science. Since the first OECD comparative study on education was conducted in 2001, the UK has fallen from 8th to 24th place in maths. In reading, the UK has fallen from 7th to 17th place, and in science from 4th to 14th place. We are now below countries like Liechtenstein and Estonia (OECD, Programme for International Student Assessment, December 2007).

Truancy and poor discipline. Every school day, over 1,000 pupils are excluded for abuse and assault and 67,000 pupils play truant (DCSF, Permanent and Fixed Period Exclusions from Schools in England 2007/08, 30 July 2009; DCSF, Pupil Absence from Schools in England, including pupil characteristics, 21 April 2009).

7. On crime

Over 100 serious knife crimes a day. In 2008-09, there were 38,082 serious offences involving a knife – including homicide, attempted murder and robbery – equivalent to more than 100 a day (Home Office, Crime in England and Wales 2008-9, 21 January 2010, Revised Table 3.10).

Violence against the person increased by 44 per cent. Recorded levels of violence against the person increased by 44 per cent between 1998-99 and 2008-09. These figures take account of changing recording practices over the period so the comparison is statistically valid (House of Commons Library Note, February 2010).

80,000 prisoners released early. Figures released last week show that between June 2007 and April 2010, 81,578 prisoners were released early on Labour’s controversial ‘end of custody licence’ scheme (Ministry of Justice, End of Custody Licence releases and recalls, 30 April 2010).

8. On pensioners

2 million pensioners in poverty. There are 2 million pensioners in poverty today (DWP, Households Below Average Income 2007-08, May 2009, table 6.3tr, measured after housing costs). This is a rise of 100,000 since the last election.

Devastating tax on pensions. One of Gordon Brown’s first acts on becoming Chancellor in 1997 was to impose a tax on pensions of £5 billion a year. Over 100,000 occupational pension schemes have been wound up or have begun the process of winding up since Labour took office in 1997 (Hansard, 11 November 2009, Col. 570W).

9. On poverty

Inequality growing. The income of the poorest 20 per cent of households has been falling for the past three years and is now £7 a week lower in real terms than in 2004-05. Over the same period, the richest 20 per cent of households have seen their incomes grow in real terms by £30 a week (DWP, Households Below Average Income 2007/08 Full Report, 7 May 2009, p.20, table 2.1ts).

Child poverty rising. Child poverty has risen for the third year in a row (DWP, Households Below Average Income First Release, 7 May 2009, p.1). There are now four million children living in poverty.

Doubled the tax rate for some of the poorest. In the 2007 Budget, Labour scrapped the 10p tax rate, doubling the rate for some of the poorest to 20p. The Treasury estimated that 5.3 million households lost from the April 2008 changes announced in the 2007 Budget (Hansard, 18 October 2007, Col. 1266 WA). While the IFS said that, even after compensation, there were still 0.9 million people worse off (IFS Briefing Note 77, ‘The 10% tax rate: where next?’).

10. On the Armed Forces

Misleading over defence spending. On 10 March 2010, Gordon Brown claimed that ‘the defence budget has been rising every year since 1997’ (Hansard, 10 March 2010, col. 291). A week later, on 17 March, he admitted ‘I do accept that in one or two years defence expenditure did not rise in real terms’ (Hansard, 17 March 2010, col. 869). Figures from the Ministry of Defence show that the defence budget fell year-on-year in real terms on four occasions in 1997 – in 1998, 1999, 2002 and 2007 (Figures provided by the Ministry of Defence for Channel 4 Factcheck, 10 March 2010).

Helicopter budget cut. In 2004, the MoD cut the 10-year projected helicopter budget by £1.4 billion, and cut annual helicopter expenditure by 75 per cent from 2001 to 2007 (House of Commons library; Hansard, 3 June 2009, col. 552WA). Lord Guthrie, former Chief of the Defence Staff, said ‘I have no doubt whatever that, with additional helicopters, some of the lives that have been lost would have been saved’ (Lords Hansard, 6 November 2009, col. 524).

11. On sleaze

Mandelson resigns – twice. First, for accepting a soft loan to buy a house in London, despite a conflict of interest arising as a result of Mandelson’s appointment as Secretary of State for Trade and Industry in 1998. The second time, for helping the controversial Indian tycoon, Mr Srichand Hinduja, to secure British citizenship. Hinduja had pledged £1 million to the Millennium Dome project, with which Mandelson was closely associated (BBC News Online, 24 January 2001; BBC News Online, 23 December 2008).

Bernie Ecclestone and Formula One. In 1997, Labour’s manifesto pledged to ban tobacco advertising. But following a secret £1 million donation to the Labour Party from Bernie Ecclestone, Labour changed its policy (BBC News Online, 22 September 2000).

David Blunkett resigns – twice. First, for fast-tracking a claim for indefinite leave to remain for his lover’s nanny. For the second time, for failing to clear his appointment with DNA Bioscience, a company that was bidding for government work, with the Advisory Committee on Business Appointments (BBC News Online, 2 November 2005).

12. On spin and feuds

Jo Moore. Jo Moore, Stephen Byers’s special adviser, sent a memo on 11 September 2001, suggesting it would be a good time to ‘bury’ controversial stories (BBC News Online, 10 October 2001).

‘Forces of hell’ unleashed on Darling. Alistair Darling admitted that Gordon Brown and Number 10, including Charlie Whelan and Damian McBride, had unleashed the ‘forces of hell’ against him after conceding that the UK economy was in a poor state (Sky News, 22 February 2010). Andrew Rawnsley’s book described how: ‘Damian McBride, Brown’s spin doctor, was also spreading poison against Darling. “He told every journalist who had access to a pencil that Alistair’s interview was a disaster. There was the most absolutely vicious briefing against him,”’ (The End of the Party, Andrew Rawnsley; reported in The Observer, 21 February 2010).

Charlie Whelan forced to resign over briefing against Mandelson. Charlie Whelan was forced to resign as Gordon Brown’s press secretary after it was suggested that he was responsible for leaking the information that led to Peter Mandelson’s first resignation from Government (BBC News Online, 4 January 1999)

Damian McBride conceived false smears against opponents. Deliberate smears against senior Conservatives were planned by Gordon Brown’s spin doctor, Damian McBride, with Derek Draper, a former adviser to Peter Mandelson. Charlie Whelan was also copied in to these planning emails (The Guardian, 29 April 2009).

13. On character

Bottled the election. After months of walking his troops up the hill – appointing a general election co-ordinator, beginning to write a manifesto, hiring an advertising agency – Brown bottled it. On 6 October, after months of dithering, he finally announced that there would not be a general election in 2007 (Speech at Special Labour Party Conference, 24 June 2007; The Times, 1 August 2007; Labour Party Press Release, 13 September 2007; and BBC Online News, 6 October 2007).

Calling Gillian Duffy a ‘bigot’. At a walkabout in Rochdale last Wednesday, after speaking to a pensioner called Gillian Duffy, Gordon Brown was recorded telling an aide in his car: ‘That was a disaster - they should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that? It's just ridiculous.’ When asked what she had said, he replied: ‘Ugh everything! She's just a sort of bigoted woman that said she used to be Labour. I mean it's just ridiculous. I don't know why Sue brought her up towards me’ (Gallery News, 28 April 2010).


Blogger said...

And not forgetting on civil liberties; and on religious liberties; and on democracy; and on sovereignty; and on family life; and on culture; and on childhood;

On & on it goes. I honestly do not know if I can think of a single aspect of our national life which I consider to have improved under these political charlatans.

The word Ichabod is their legacy. I would willingly dance upon their grave.

Yet sadly I do not see anyone offering us anything that amounts to the national repentance we need. All I see is some people offering to re-arrange the deck chairs on our stricken vessel whilst we should be manning the lifeboats.

5 May 2010 at 08:13  
Anonymous philip walling said...

All true, Y.G., but the real evil of these people is their completion of the moral degradation of our national life and political discourse.
Precisely because statesmanship is so important, it is all too easy to corrupt its practice and these people have happily destroyed any residual trust the people had in their elected representatives.

Their real achievement, and lasting legacy, is in getting people to believe and say: "What's the point?; they're all the same aren't they."

This government is scum and if it isn't destroyed tomorrow we will have deserved every last one of them.

5 May 2010 at 09:15  
Anonymous Shona said...

This article is misleading and actually provides false information. You have failed to mention all the good Labour have done. Even Cameron has given praise where praise is due. Labour has not gone far enough to secure equality and alleviate poverty but has made great steps and helped thousands of low income families across the country and the globe. Through for example, tax credits, the minimum wage, winter fuel payments and tripling international aid to name but a few things.

5 May 2010 at 09:27  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Cranmer try to look on the bright side

We have exported the X-Factor to the USA

With the help of a volcano we have reduced aircraft emissions.

We still own BP one of the world’s leading companies

And Nick Clegg is more popular than Jesus, in fact he may even be Jesus.

So all is not lost we still have things to be proud of like the Turner Prize, Turkey Twizzlers and Esther Rantzen, so sit back and relax at least for the time being. After the full islamification of Britain we won’t have to worry about law and order or moral turpitude, the good book will provide all the guidance we need. Giving up beer and bacon seems a small price to pay (oh and the snip if you haven’t already had it done).

5 May 2010 at 09:34  
Blogger Anglichan said...

Perhaps Mr. Cranmer might like to systematically explain to us all exactly what the Conservatives will do to address these failings?

I look forward to your election day blog in anticipation of your doing so.

5 May 2010 at 09:43  
Blogger Gnostic said...

And Dave's answer to remedying all that socialist crap is...

BIG SOCIETY a la socialist radical Saul Alinsky.

Abso-fricking-lutely spiffing.

5 May 2010 at 09:50  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

YG Why have you allowed the "ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM" to sit in your keyboard as you tapped out the dismal liturgy of Labour's calamitous record.
You make no mention of the EU question, which to a great degree decides ALL other political questions facing us at this election.

This was a serious omission is what otherwise is an accurate summary of Labour's failure in office.
You seem to have forgotten that the central reason for a General Election to take place at all is in order that the electorate should choose who is to govern them for the next 4/5 years.

If that governance is already placed firmly in Brussels, then the re-arrangement of the deck chairs mentioned is largely an academic exercise in futility, since the electorate will not be given a vote of any kind on our relationship with the EU.

Cameron and Clegg are horses from the same stable in that they fully approve of our EU membership. Fait accompli then - whoever gets in with a working majority.
But perhaps you will will be reserving a comment on this for a later date?

5 May 2010 at 10:09  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Well, from the comments so far, I would say that your latest missive hasn't quite achieved your desired effect, Cranny.

The trouble is that Cam's Cons are offering nothing of substance to undo all that.

5 May 2010 at 10:19  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

We desperately need the Conservatives and particularly their policies on education: the bog standard socialist comprehensive has failed millions of parents.

The Lisbon Treaty requires modification; and I am sure Mr Cameron won't permit that without a referendum.

5 May 2010 at 10:35  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

More than half of what is on that list has been allowed to take place due to a poxy Tory opposition. And in most of the cases the Tories have said very little, pandering to the media and the populist opinion. I notice you have said fack all about immigration, and we all know why don't we.

Bring on the hung parliament, I have a bottle of port waiting to be opened.

PS. I am going to give you some hell on Friday.

5 May 2010 at 10:39  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Mr Singh said: "The Lisbon Treaty requires modification, and I'm sure Mr Cameron won't permit that without a referendum"

With respect this bristles with anomalies.
Firstly a treaty that erodes British sovereignty and powers of governance needs not modification, but abolishing.
Secondly, modification is not an option that is open to any future British government. I will tell you why:
1. The terms of the Lisbon Treaty are clear. It is a final and concluding treaty, incorporating all other EU treaties. It is non-negotiable unless and until all other (26) member states agree to proposed treaty changes.
Clearly this has not the remotest chance of happening. Even if the Conservative Party came to power and instigated a 'negotiation' move, the process would not take weeks, or even months, but many years, and without the slightest prospect of obtaining the necessary unanimous agreement of the rest of the EU.

2. The EU doctrine of the "aquis communitaire" ensures that power once ceded by member states to the central jurisdiction of the EU can never be returned. Do you know of a single example of power having been returned once ratified in an EU treaty? It has never happened, and under Lisbon, never can or will be.

3. The treaty is uniquely different to all it predecessors as it incorporates a "self amending" clause. This is a mechanism whereby the Commission can arbitrarily add, or insert into the Lisbon Treaty, any such measures as the EU Commission deems necessary for the furtherance of the EU's aims and functioning of the treaty.
Not even Hitler's 'Enabling Act ' of 1933 conferred such a measure of arbitrary power !
One final point. If DC came to power with a small working majority he would not be able to get any EU "Reform" Bill through the Commons. With a 'hung' Parliament the prospect would be even more remote and would recede into oblivion. Period.

5 May 2010 at 10:54  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

graham Wood

Your knowledge of the treaty is impressive. But maybe as the Greece debacle plays out and the Euro implodes or Greece is thrown out of the Single currency the shockwaves may cause EU member states to reconsider some of the sacred cows and look again at the purpose of the EU and all its treaties and just who benefits from them.

5 May 2010 at 11:09  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

An abject piece of rabble rousing Your Grace, calculated to set Mr Singh’s and his acolytes’ hearts a fluttering I’m sure; but hardly likely to win any converts because you don’t offer any evidentially valid alternatives or remedial measures.

However, - Ayatollah Walling said:- …but the real evil of these people is their completion of the moral degradation of our national life and political discourse…

Evil is such an emotive word amongst the religious – Have there really been acts of ‘evil’ perpetrated while the nation slept or is it just a convenient turd thrown in frustration.

The ‘real evil’? - What other kind of evil is there – I thought evil was absolute, are you are telling me there are degrees of evil?

…‘their completion of… – sounds like you see it as a done deal, can you explain where you place the comparative starting points on which you base your assertion – dates – evidence etc, that directly implicates this specific tenure?

‘moral degradation of national life’? What is it you are trying to say here?
Have you been morally degraded? - define what you mean by ‘national life’ and how you are not a part of it.

…(moral degradation of) political discourse… it sounds serious, but what does it mean?

It sounds to me PW, as though you are floating above the rest of the nation, on your personal cloud of self righteous indignation – must be a wonderful place you have created up there: then again, I suppose this is the state of delusional grandeur that is created by some who inevitably mix their own brand of religion with secular politics.

5 May 2010 at 11:27  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Graham Davis. I agree with you insofar as the Greek "tragedy" being played out represents in embryo the complete weakness and ultimate failure not only of the Eurozone, but the whole EU project.
Many economic and political commentators agree that without complete fiscal and even full economic, ONE central government (i.e. EU government) control, the Single Currency CANNOT be made to work.
The reason is not hard to discern. How can a "one size fits all" currency suit 26 different, and often divergent, economies?

The German/IMF bail out can only hold the ring for a temporary period, but all devolves on the willingness of the Greek people to accept extreme economic punishment on a scale which they do not seem prepared to take.
Why should they - it was their government which foolishly took them into the Euro fiddling the books to do so.
So, the long term welfare of the Eurozone will be dependent on the social and political events unfolding in Greece which acts as a catalyst for the working of the whole of the pet EU project. IMO it cannot and will not work.
Today is their national strike !

5 May 2010 at 11:40  
Blogger English Viking said...

In the words of Ed Balls, 'So what?'

The only reason the nation is not about to elect Labour is because we haven't had 18 years of preceeding Conservatism. Now that Conservatism apparently no longer exists, if (big if) Cam squeezes in on Friday, it will only be a few months until people hate him as much as Blair or Brown. Then they will re-elect the red rabble again, and so it goes on. And on and on.

Revolution is required. Decapitate this beast and start again.

5 May 2010 at 11:52  
Blogger Preacher said...

By the grace of God, I hope the whole EU starts to unravel from Greece upward like an old woollen jumper & this country can once again breathe the fresh air of freedom that our young men fought & died for in two World Wars.
The depths of duplicity that this cesspool of vipers will stoop to in an effort of World domination is without equal in mans history. Remember their own rule that if even one 'Member' state rejected a treaty of ratification then the treaty would be rejected? The Irish rejected Maastricht, what happened? the Euro parliament moved the goalposts, conned & bullied the Irish, laughed at our supposed stupidity & feeble protests. Brown signed & Cameron welshed on a 'Cast Iron' promise. You couldn't make it up! Judging by history, this could be the last chance to rid ourselves of this giant leach that has sucked the vitality, sovereignity & faith out of our once proud Nation. I'm sick & tired of these play actors with their spin & scripts that mean nothing, ask Gillian Duffy about their 'Sincerity'.
It's UKIP for me, they might not get in but Farage is the only man that has shown grit & integrity in politics for years, saying what I believe & believe in. Their policies are good & I pray that despite all the tele-hype, UKIP spring a big surprise. A Con/UKIP hung parliament would not be ideal, but compared to the alternatives it would do.

5 May 2010 at 12:28  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Your Grace, in the matter of the EU, I can only encourage communicants to read the comfortable words today of Frau Merkin, Chancellor of the BundesRepublik 'The future of Europe and the future of Germany within Europe is at stake'. Translation, 'we're sick of propping up these wogs and we want out'.

Where next? Bring back the DM and go for possible economic anschluss with Austria, the Czech Republic (Bohemia) and Hungary. Been here before? Yep, many times - you can read them all like a book. In any event the Chancellor is reading the obituary of both the EMU and the EU.

The Treaty of Lisbon - just a worthless scrap of paper.

5 May 2010 at 12:32  
Anonymous opsimath said...

Thank you, Mr Cranmer, although your article makes grim reading indeed. However, as with all bloggers, and despite their eloquence and passion, you - and all the other big ones, are preaching to the converted.

While every word you write is shockingly true, no-one seems to be listening.

God be with you.

5 May 2010 at 12:48  
Anonymous Lumberjack said...

Oh No! Not another 5 years of Brown.

I suppose then that means Cameron and Clegg are out. It would sure be nice if there were some other party besides BluLabour, NuLabour, the LibDems, and the BNP. You know, some party that really believed in economic and political freedom, and in domestic order.

5 May 2010 at 16:25  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

Mr Wood at 11.40 am puts forward an interesting analysis as to why, in the main, the single currency will not work.

However, there may be a far deeper analysis that may support his views.

In the countries of southern Europe it is part of the cultures of the peoples to avoid paying taxes; whilst in the northern European countries taxes are efficiently collected (the objective being to achieve a balance of payments).

It was clear to all that when Greece joined the Eurozone the figures it presented were not correct - and yet it was still permitted to join.

The cultures of northern and southern Europe are different and it is the madness of the EU project to assume all these countries could be unified to produce success. They simply cannot be unified in the same way as the United States of America.

I my opinion Greece will leave the EU and walk towards the clammy embrace of Turkey and is likely to join the Union for the Mediterranean (established by the EU).

(That may be of interest to scholars of the Book of Daniel.)

And God Bless Mr Peter Shields, the first to comment here today, in his efforts to get elected to parliament.

5 May 2010 at 17:06  
Blogger Fausty said...

An excellent catalogue of Labour's failure (although I'm not sure that "failure is the right word),

Their destruction of culture in Britain is so complete, so encompassing, so, "joined-up", that it is difficult for most of us to believe that it is down to mere incompetence. There must be an agenda, here.

5 May 2010 at 17:27  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

If Dave intends to cut waste, as he says, then calling time on blunketts bobbies would be a good start and doing away with all those busy bodies who wish to fine us because we have placed paper waste in the bottle waste and contaminated it, Gosh!

Never mind the dustbin lid being left open an inch and did you leave it out on the pavement, oh dear, oh dear, what are we to do with such blatant acts of insolence.

Those jobs can go, for sure, you see its my guess this Cameron chappy, although not openly challenging the EU, could chissel away at some of the jobs that help them achieve their goals, he does this by rightly calling those positions wasteful.

If a few bricks can be knocked out of the wall, eventualy more and more will see the light, until the day we all climb on the wall with lump hammers and begin bashing, the EU stand back not knowing what to do about it, because the stassi collaboraters are no more, Dave put them out of work, the wasteful creatures.

I certainly do not promote the tory party but believe Camerons policy on cuts, compared to Brown in number ten could buy us more time and weaken the resistance to our popular uprising.

Stock up on the Sarnies and dig in...

Signed: Tarry Unwin

5 May 2010 at 17:34  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

Well, folks, it'll be fun waking up on Friday morning to find that nothing has changed, despite all the media hype. Even if there is a change of government, nothing will have changed.

The deficit will still be there, threatening, well, practically everything. Whoever is in number 10 will be making cuts.

And the eu, making 80% of new laws, will of course be unchanged, too.

Did someone say something about deckchairs on the titanic?

I shall vote UKIP anyway, just so that my democratic vote has been used, but a stuffed parrot with Dave's label could be elected where I live.

5 May 2010 at 17:40  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

The main parties are already beginning to behave in a dictatorial manner - even before they have been elected. How dare they. They are an utter disgrace.

I honestly don’t blame my fellow posters for voting for the ‘fringe’ parties.

5 May 2010 at 17:54  
Anonymous Graham Davis said...

Vat is said to be a regressive tax but if the percent levied was in bands dependent on the price of the purchase this could be avoided. For example a rates starting at 17.5% increasing to 20% for goods over £50 and 25% for those over £200 raising to 40% for goods over £500. Companies would be able to reclaim 75% rather than the 100% at present and goods currently zero rated would remain.

The advantage of this approach is that evasion is impossible and collecting taxes would be much simpler. To partially compensate I would make a single rate of income tax/NIS at say 15% for all tax payers but with an allowance of £15,000.

Any takers?

5 May 2010 at 18:05  
Blogger Ronald said...

DCFS contemplation suite was claimed to be Muslims to pray in. (I think it was Balls but not sure)

Despite 3x more health spending we cannot get the good drugs.

Don't forget GPs getting paid more for doing less and night cover from non English speaking doctors or from Nurses.

On sleaze postal voting fraud and the three Labour MPs asking for legal aid worth a mention.

They brought in a huge number of new laws. The ones that let them clamp down on protest or check our e-mails will be enforced while trial by jury is edged out and it is still not safe to go out at night. And in the 4 years I have lived in this town I have seen policemen out of their cars twice.

The full list would be a book.

5 May 2010 at 18:24  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Shona .... all of what 'good' ???

What good can compensate for swamping our country with immigrants? What good can come from beginning the dismemberment of the United Kingdom? What good can compensate for the bankrupting of our country? Brown had emptied the Treasury, and worse, before the world hit economic disaster! Any good that they have done, is nothing, absolutely nothing in comparison to the horrors they have unleashed!

5 May 2010 at 18:54  
Anonymous len said...

Whoever ends up as resident in no 10 are going to find there very little cash left and a lot of I O U`s.
Where we go from here is anybody`s guess,I expect we will get to know when whoever wins tells us their real policies.

5 May 2010 at 19:11  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Preacher & bluedog - excellent posts!

Even nature has decided to 'pour oil upon troubled waters' - but the fate of the American coast-line will be as nothing to the scum-line of a 'Europe' dominated Britain!

5 May 2010 at 19:12  
Anonymous Katy said...


Sorry, but no, they haven't 'helped thousands of low income families across the country and the globe' at all. Tax credits have to be paid for, usually (I've spotted) by me. That means I'm not in an economic position to start a family. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of 'hardworking families' are spending my money on playstations and foreign holidays. It's time that people learned that you make a choice when you have a child, and it should involve some sacrifices - not mine, but yours. My parents couldn't afford foreign holidays, my parents couldn't have kept up with all the fancy electrical gadgets it's now compulsory to provide your children with. What Labour have achieved is taking money off people who can't afford it in order that people who've chosen to have children can live the life of Riley.

5 May 2010 at 19:13  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Katy - bravo, bravo! Tell it the way it is lass!

5 May 2010 at 19:19  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Tax credits are a simple and brilliant idea:

First, take money off people in taxes. Second, pay some people to give some of the money back to some of them.

Easy, isn't it?

Tax credits are designed to give the impression that the government is helping you, whereas it is in fact helping itself and then giving some of you a little bit back. Why?

The genius of the idea is that it provides another socialist ratchet: Cam's Cons can't possibly say they want to abolish tax credits so that everybody will be better off. No; they must support this socialist measure even though it is a complete con.

But then they are Cam's Cons.

5 May 2010 at 19:26  
Anonymous D.Singh said...

Your Grace

I am changing my vote to UKIP.

5 May 2010 at 19:36  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr D. Singh,

His Grace thought you had more sense. You have a distinct and odious LibDem incumbent. UKIP cannot win: a Cameron-led government will be the most eurosceptic since we joined the EEC in 1973.

5 May 2010 at 19:41  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

I did not post that. I will be voting Conservative.

5 May 2010 at 19:49  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Who the blue blazes did that?

Filthy coward.

5 May 2010 at 19:50  
Blogger Lakester91 said...

Mr. Davis,

Your idea (and others' posts) raises an interesting point about the nature of tax. There are several ways we could do it. (these are my opinions, not fact by the way)

1. Tax on Income:

Pros: Generally seen as more fair, as it taxes the money required for living less than that required for luxury. Also generates a lot of income.

Cons: Can be seen as punishing the hard working by taxing more skilled workers (though wages aren't always graded by skill). The highest earners can also legally evade this tax by declaring non-domicile status. Is generally over-taxed and requires claiming back at the end of the year (which is a fag to do).

2. Tax on Purchase: e.g. VAT

Pros: Very difficult to evade as it is taken from the point of transaction. Can be seen as fair, as it is usually luxury goods that are taxed, while items such as food are not.

Cons: Pushes up prices, so it can hinder commercial growth. Doesn't earn much money. Can be a fag for businesses to reclaim money.

3. Tax on Ownership: e.g. Inheritance tax

Pros: Not many. Good socialist tax that punishes the rich.

Cons: Hinders the economy by punishing those who earn and spend money. Allows the Government to take money that it should have no right to claim.

5 May 2010 at 19:56  
Blogger Lakester91 said...

I suggest a good balance of the first two taxes. As each type of tax comes with inefficiency (cost of policing etc.), it is best to try to keep tax and spending quite low. This means we have to rely on the subjects of Her Majesty (as well as tourists) to keep the economy moving though, so a balance of public and private spending is required for the optimum economic growth.

5 May 2010 at 20:01  
Blogger D. Singh said...

And, Your Grace, I do wish you would desist from suggesting I live in Oxford.

I do not live in Oxford.

Cameron is my MP.

5 May 2010 at 20:01  
Blogger D. Singh said...

1. The first priority is to eject this national socialist government.
2. UKIP and any other fringe party will not be forming the government.
3. To vote for a fringe party seriously risks letting in a Euro-fanatic.
4. There are more Christians and anti-EU candidates standing in the present crop of Conservative candidates.
5. Cameroons are not ideologically driven: therefore, they are vulnerable to being turned in our direction.
6. Logically, the Conservatives are the lesser of two evils.
7. A Lib-Lab pact risks bringing in Proportional Representation: excluding Conservatives and conservatives for at least an entire generation.
8. Wake up and smell the coffee.

5 May 2010 at 20:26  
Blogger David Wheeler said...

LibLabCon have all thrown plenty of mud at each other,
and most of it has stuck.
I have seen none chucked by,
or chucked at,
so that is where
my vote is going.

Vote UKIP.

David Wheeler.

5 May 2010 at 20:44  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Point ‘5’ needs further explanation by way of example. The Cameroons embraced the ‘equality agenda’ primarily in order to be ‘inclusive’ SO THAT THEY COULD GET ELECTED. But to be ‘inclusive’ means in fact to be ‘exclusive’ (see the recent case law suppressing Christians). So they rejected about 25% of their natural supporters to gain, so they thought, 50% more voters.

Did it work?


So what happens next?

1. It is a hung parliament.
2. It will be clear in the Conservative Party that Cameron cannot lead us into a landslide victory.
3. The Liberal-Democrats will hang onto a coalition government for as long as they can because they are unlikely to win so many seats for a long time.
4. Civil war in the Conservative Party - that is why I need you posters to join the Conservative Party after the General Election (it will be the ‘mother of all insurrections’).
5. A man from the Centre-right of the Conservative Party will emerge - for his time has come.
A General Election somewhere in 2011-2012.

So men, I ask of you for your patience: there is a time for all things that are done under the heavens.

5 May 2010 at 21:02  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Thank you, Your Grace! An impressive list about the most unimpressive government this country has ever known; our masters seem to have combined the evils of people like Edward the Confessor, Billie Conk, and even King John- and then to have impressed themselves by converting the destruction into "modern" terms.

btw, Dreadnought, I don't know where you get off telling us religious people what we think and mean. Thank you very much but my ideas and definitions bear no relation to yours; and I, for one, prefer to identify my own perceptions (and most here are also clearly qualified to do so for themselves). Furthermore, you mis-read... apparently because you haven't the skill to interpret a concept like 'evil.' It seems you can't even find your way to a good dictionary (and the OED has an online version). Further, if you've served in the forces, and you don't admit that evils exist and prey on human nature - then maybe you should have a re-think. Why don't you try working it out for yourself, instead of presuming to manoeuver your interlocutors into defensive positions they don't belong in?

According to Shona, the good liebour have done includes "tripling international aid." That's a "good"? Oh - of course - Charity begins at Home is a traditional value. Never mind then, if we need oxygen ourselves; just drop dead before we can administer it to others. Oh --- and never mind anyway: Liebour merrily gave all our oxygen to the euSSR, before anybody could draw breath!

Graham Wood, thank you for describing the anomalies! I love your use of "aquis communitaire." Apart from an e.g. of froggish as the impenetrable language of international diplomacy, the expression sets me off remembering West Indian ackees, de Market, and such!!

Now there's a thought, too, Preacher! A UKIP/Con coalition. Let's hope a few more latch onto it before tomorrow. Thank you - it's helped me to make up my mind...

5 May 2010 at 21:17  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Oh no nonny 'before tomorrow'!

How dreadful is the waiting.

'The hum of either army stilly sounds,
That the fix'd sentinels almost receive
The secret whispers of each other’s watch.
Fire answers fire, and through their paly flames
Each battle sees the other’s umber'd face:
Steed threatens steed, in high and boastful neighs
Piercing the night’s dull ear; and from the tents,
The armourers, accomplishing the knights,
With busy hammers closing rivets up,
Give dreadful note of preparation.'

King Henry V Act III Sc VII

5 May 2010 at 21:20  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Just a quick note for those of you who are our international readers.

The excerpt is from a play by William Shakespeare, King Henry V, describing the night before the famous battle of Agincourt.

5 May 2010 at 21:51  
Blogger I am Stan said...

Your Grace,

I admire your loyalty to the Con`s,but let us remember, that in 13 years of opposition they have! NOTHING... they failed to stem the worst of the Socialist`s excesses.

Why?...because they are made of the same cloth....just a different stitch binds them together.

If they can tear wild dogs apart (foxes) and take the working mans money (taxes) they will be happy...maybe!

5 May 2010 at 22:00  
Anonymous PJ said...

I dont understand, NuLab have screwed a lot of things up, but yet one admits he is voting conservative and everyone turns on him. "How could you?", they exclaim

5 May 2010 at 22:03  
Anonymous bluedog said...

MR D Singh @ 17.06 said 'I my opinion Greece will leave the EU and walk towards the clammy embrace of Turkey and is likely to join the Union for the Mediterranean (established by the EU).' Great Scott man, how could you condemn such a proud Christian people to a future of Dhimmitude? The Greeks would rather become extinct than submit to another 400 years of the Turkish yoke.

5 May 2010 at 22:04  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr bluedog

Once the Greeks leave the EU they will need a 'friend' who has access to Russian gas.

A Mr David Wheeler (on this message board) seems to be studying the Book of Daniel.

5 May 2010 at 22:27  
Blogger D. Singh said...

And by the way, Mr bluedog, Turkey was a loyal member of NATO for decades.

The 'Obama-Drama' administration has no idea what it has done: idiots.

Turkey is now aligned with Russia - to fulfil its 'End-Time' role: to lead the 'Caliphate' against poor Israel.

5 May 2010 at 22:43  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Mr bluedog you state:

'Great Scott man, how could you condemn such a proud Christian people to a future of Dhimmitude? The Greeks would rather become extinct than submit to another 400 years of the Turkish yoke.'

There are two Greek peoples as there are two British peoples: there is the Government and the people.

Still, God gave them two things in common: eyes to see with and ears to hear with.

5 May 2010 at 22:53  
Blogger D. Singh said...


If the Conservative Party loses the morrows' battle: then all England will crouch down in fear.

The night is ours.

For whom does the dawn beckon?

Think hard as your pencil hovers over the paper.

Think of our country: for our country needs you.

5 May 2010 at 23:17  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Well, Your Grace, the time will shortly be: midnight.

And talk of persuasion must cease.

As Mr Anabaptist said: let each man obey his consicence.

'The hum of either army stilly sounds,
That the fix'd sentinels almost receive
The secret whispers of each other’s watch.
Fire answers fire, and through their paly flames
Each battle sees the other’s umber'd face:
Steed threatens steed, in high and boastful neighs
Piercing the night’s dull ear; and from the tents,
The armourers, accomplishing the knights,
With busy hammers closing rivets up,
Give dreadful note of preparation.'

King Henry V Act III Sc VII

I have done my duty.

5 May 2010 at 23:55  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Wonderfully apt quotation [though oh dear, Mr. Singh - I always am sad for the horses, in these battles].

To continue:
The country clocks do crow, the clocks do toll
And the third hour of drowsy morning.

wv: twootom
Proud of their numbers and secure in soul,
The confident and overlusty French
Do the low-rated English play at dice;
And chide the cripple tardy-gaited night,
Who like a foul and ugly witch doth limp
So tediously away. The poor condemned English,
Like sacrifices, by their watchful fires
Sit patiently and inly ruminate
The morning's danger....
I hope still, that this time tomorrow we may not say of the English, with Orleance: "Foolish curs, that run winking into the mouth of a Russian bear and have their heads crush'd like rotten apples! You may as well say, that's a valiant flea that dare eat his breakfast on the lip of a lion." HV: 3.7.143-6.

6 May 2010 at 02:36  
Anonymous no nonny said...

So to King Henry himself:

Gloucester, 'tis true that we are in great danger,
The greater therefore should our courage be.
Good morrow, brother Bedford. God Almighty!
There is some soul of goodness in things evil,
Would men observingly distill it out.
For our bad neighbour makes us early stirrers,
Which is both healthful and good husbandry.
Besides, they are our outward consciences
And preachers to us all, admonishing
That we should dress us fairly for our end.
Thus may we gather honey from the weed,
And make a moral of the devil himself.
HV: 4.1.1-12

6 May 2010 at 02:46  
Anonymous Oswin said...

God bless you Mr.Singh, and all who sale with you. If only your party deserved you! Acknowledges a fine Tory of the true spirit...

6 May 2010 at 02:53  
Anonymous IanCad said...

Your Grace,
This catalogue of Labour's failings, although very persuavise, is still not enough for me to wish any less for a hung parliament. Only a new manifesto and leadership will help the conservatives. Quite frankly, I do not think that they can offer much relief from the outrages of the last decade of Labour rule.

6 May 2010 at 03:57  
Anonymous William McCloundy said...

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6 May 2010 at 05:04  
Anonymous LDS said...

Polls open half an hour. Off to the station then knocking up, no stopping until the count is over probably about 4 am tommorrow.

Your Grace may I offer a prayer on this day.

Dear lord we ask your grace for all those involved in this election.

May the electors vote with judgement, with honesty and without rancour.

May all the candidates recall that the office they seek is there for the public good and a burden of responsibility that you will help them to bear with fortitude.

We give thanks for those who administer the election, the returning officers and their staff and the police who keep the process secure.

As we approach the polls we give grateful thanks that as a nation we can express the democratic will through lawful institutions hallowed by history. We recall with sorrow that many of your people throughout the world are yet denied such rights.

Lastly we hold up to you the memory of all those who have striven and sacrificed, even of their lives, to allow us this choice. May they rest in your peace.


6 May 2010 at 06:31  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Vat is said to be a regressive tax but if the percent levied was in bands dependent on the price of the purchase this could be avoided. For example a rates starting at 17.5% increasing to 20% for goods over £50 and 25% for those over £200 raising to 40% for goods over £500. Companies would be able to reclaim 75% rather than the 100% at present and goods currently zero rated would remain.

Do you know why it is called VALUE ADDED tax ?

At what point in the Value Chain would you levy your banded rate ? Production Cost ? Wholesale Cost ?

When the electricity bill reaches £50 for the day, month, year ?

Do you know how hard computer programming would be as the supermarket till suddenly adds higher VAT to biscuits because someone has bought a TV set ?

Clearly you have never worked in financial accounting or tax ? This is the kind of fanciful idea that Labour politicians dream up as they leave Polytechnic lecturing

6 May 2010 at 07:28  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Voyager @ 07.28 said 'Clearly you have never worked in financial accounting or tax ?'

Should the question be shortened to, 'never worked?'

6 May 2010 at 11:48  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...


If they favour a progressive tax the answer to your questions is probably yes.

6 May 2010 at 12:14  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Mr D Singh @ 22.43, I am scouring my sources for evidence that the Turk is in bed with the Muscovite. President Medvedev of Russia visits Turkey on May 11th, maybe a great entente will be declared. The Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan visits Greece on May 14th, which is either very good or incredibly bad timing. In any event, a number of your propositions will be tested soon. The Turkish foreign minister is in the Ukraine at the time of writing seeking a strategic dialogue. Not sure what that does for either Greece or Russia.

In conversation with an elite Greek two years ago I did learn that the Greeks are very pro-Turkish EU membership. His exact words were, 'It should settle them down a bit'. Both Milipede and Hague would appear to agree.

6 May 2010 at 12:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pervasive and nefarious influence of Common Purpose at all levels of local and national governance, the police, education and the judiciary is also tied to the Gramscian Marxist agendas of Labour's machine. Common Purpose is a 'charity' which purports to train selected movers and shakers and its intention is to introduce by intrigue and stealth the Soviet-style structures and communitarian ideology of the European Union.

6 May 2010 at 13:39  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Oswin what a decent chap you are; any time you want to be part of our gun crew - you just say so.

no nonny - thank you for the extra portions of King Henry V - we are inspired.

LDS - thank you for your prayer.

God be with; and God speed.

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