Thursday, May 06, 2010

Do not vote LibDem?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

What excellent advice from the local state:


It should have gone on to extend its advice to:


6 May 2010 at 17:38  
Anonymous Oswin said...

I confess, I did once.....but I'm better now, thank you, and I'll never do it again!

As for ''sitting on the fence'' - our Polling Station caravan (we live in the middle of several 'nowheres') is parked in the local Forestry Commission yard, and the surrounding fence is constructed from 'pointy' stakes!

Our wee caravan has seen an above average turnout; most people voting earlier than usual. However, no basking outside on deckchairs this year, for our polling attendants, it's freezing here!

6 May 2010 at 17:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Does anyone know electoral law?

I am getting e-mails that the Lib-Dems outside the Polling Station are asking voters for information on their poling cards?

Is that legal?

People are feeling stressed as it is, and then they feel harassed by the questions.

6 May 2010 at 17:51  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Your polarised view of the world will be your undoing.

6 May 2010 at 17:53  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Actually, the Lib Dims might have a case against the local authority for displaying party election material at a polling station.

6 May 2010 at 17:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace, at least no-one on this blog has yet "come out" as a lib dim, the party who would without question take us into the single currency and dry up the English channel to unite us physically with the EU.

6 May 2010 at 18:01  
Anonymous Singh's atheist twin said...

Men! Vote Liberal Democrat for the sake of the nation!

6 May 2010 at 18:05  
Anonymous Mr Katana Sword said...

Lord Lavendon, you should be chopped in half like a mellon, but plenty have come out as UKIP and have therefore given the victory to the liberals and the socialists! Your all secretly reds! Peasents !

6 May 2010 at 18:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Singh's atheist twin

I have no twin.

Why don't you go over and play on the Gruaniad's website?

6 May 2010 at 18:08  
Anonymous Singh's mirror twin said...

"Why don't you go over and play on the Gruaniad's website?"

Because I like it hear

"I have no twin."

I come from an alternative reality in which you are an atheist and you rant constantly about atheism against your arch rival the devout Christian Graham Davies

6 May 2010 at 18:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me a red? Has this man gone mad? Better dead than red....

Anyway,my good fellow, how do you intend to chop me up as a mellon? Do you not think I might put up a bit of a fight with my own sword?

6 May 2010 at 18:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, I apologise to his Grace, for going off topic. Clearly the lib dims should not be trusted with governing this country.

6 May 2010 at 18:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Singh's mirror twin

Oh do go away - you silly old moo.

6 May 2010 at 18:20  
Anonymous Mr Katana Sword said...

Your stupid foil weapons are no match against my trust Katana Sword

6 May 2010 at 18:31  
Anonymous Katy said...

Mr Singh;

The people outside the polling station are tellers; they are volunteers or employees of local political parties. They are allowed to ASK for the information on your polling card but MUST make it clear why they are there, and that you are not obliged to give them the information. They are nothing to do with the officials who are there, and you can vote without talking to them at all.

My experience is that these people rarely make it clear who they are or why they want the information. Most don't even wear any identifying marks (such as a ribbon) to explain that they are there on behalf of the political parties. The reason they want the information is for statistical purposes - they match the addresses of voters with their map, and the results of the early part of the day are used to help them target their campaigning the rest of the day. After the elections, they use the information to target their marketing in future elections.

I walk past them. Two years ago an irate queue of people who didn't know any better accused me of 'queue jumping'. On the way out I quietly explained that they were all having their own time wasted, it was not my fault, and they didn't need to queue. Some were grumpy, some were grateful.

If you think that the people outside the polling station are intimidating you or others into giving them information that really, they have no business to know, you should complain to the officials in the polling station. I had cause to do this one year when one busy-body claimed that I must tell her what was on my polling card. The official dealt with it very swiftly and gave the busy-body a discreet yet certain telling off.

Unfortunately, our local council lets these people use the entrance lobbies of three of our local polling stations rather than making them stand out in the rain where they belong. This has the effect of making them appear to be official. They get a table and everything.

6 May 2010 at 19:17  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Our local council doesn't accord tellers any facilities. A few years ago I encountered Nick Griffin standing outside in the rain at our local polling station on local election day. He didn't ask me anything, though my son had a conversation with him.

There was nobody except officials at the polling station today.

6 May 2010 at 19:28  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Someone on Twitter has just said they are looking forward to two hours time when CCHQ will authorize all the nutters to reopen their websites. Yeha.

It will be fun when the fun starts. I wonder if we end up like Greece smashing the place up.

6 May 2010 at 19:49  
Anonymous Katy said...

There were lots of tellers at my polling station today, and the Labour and LibDem people are outside campaigning hard. There was someone from IpsosMori outside my parents' polling station. We're in a 'key marginal'; this time the Conservatives stand a good chance of winning.

Actually I think Labour and the LibDems are playing it all wrong. They've got so many crowds out there that it probably looks as though they've already got enough support, so their voters will stay at home in the dry!

6 May 2010 at 19:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

Boris Johnson has just sent this to me:

This is it.

As I write these words Gordon Brown should be teetering on the edge of the political oblivion he so richly deserves.

One shove, one nudge, one tiny prod in the right place - and we will at last be rid of this bankrupt embarrassment of a Labour government. Just one last push and this great country will be spared another five years of Gordon Brown.
We will avoid the drift and dither of a hung parliament. We will give a Conservative government the chance to offer dynamic and energetic government and by tomorrow morning we will begin the work of undoing the damage done by Labour.

Who is there left to administer this final judicious kick to the Labour Party's ample posterior?
It could be you, [dear poster].

If you have yet to vote - and you have five minutes to spare - I urge you and all your family and friends to get down to the polling station and play your part in history.

In an election this tight, your vote could be decisive. The boot's on your foot. For the good of our country - I urge you to use it.

6 May 2010 at 20:07  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr D. Singh,

His Grace has received the same missive. He is curiously optimistic about the ultimate outcome.

In answer to your question about those tellers who were harassing you (and others), Miss/Mrs Katy is quite right: you are not compelled to tell them anything. If you suspect something untoward (coercion, intimidation), call the police.

6 May 2010 at 20:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ms Katy and Your Grace

Thank you.

6 May 2010 at 20:17  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Your grace makes an interesting point , fence sitting is an all too clever past time but equally there is nothing worse than a person with gusto or spin demanding all and sundry follow there badly thought cause.

We have had 13 yrs of which the last 3 have been the worst corruption of parliament I have seen (although 200yrs ago it might not have seen so bad) .The liberal democrats have palyed there high chicanery and I have a feeling that what they stand for has become irrelvant mainly due to how unstable there left wing/marxists masters/tutors have left this country .
That it is one of the things they always overlook when engineering society to remove the basis of our freedoms ,that it is our country and not soley theres .

I have hope , that the great finished work of socialism is fully exposed in its true worth , and that better more authentic dialogue with the British people can be established .

As for the clean up , I am no doubt sure it will not be pleasant, the ecnomic models of the industrial and manufacturing eras are reaching certain limits , it was however no exucse to run up a destructive debt or to devalue basic roles of seeing the natural world as value .

The madness of state control always does lead to human misery , for people lose who they are and the real world makes less and less sense as the artifical grips tighter and tighter .

Much work will have done on the structures deliberately eroded by Labour , before we can see some fruit , but I see no alternative ,if the polticians were having to contrive bigger lies whilst it people suffered , somthing had gone wrong .
will the new "smart set" be whipped into silence on key issues on religion or the EU , will they travell to those towns and villages quietly being ecnomically euthanansed on benefits and quango manipulations and rule ??

We shall see , I look forward to seeing your Graces return to matters religous once the next 48hrs are over , our cathoilic church needs to see it too has become too centralised .

If we do have a hung parliament then we must work for the second fight , but sampling the peoples mode I dont think it will be hung .

6 May 2010 at 20:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The other important matter to consider is which channel to watch the results? I can't stand david dimble and toennails, so is ITV any better? What about Sky?

6 May 2010 at 20:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6 May 2010 at 21:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harold Wilson asserted that the Labour party was a moral crusade or it was nothing. The McBride affair has left Labour members looking at nothing. That is the reality check that McBride has wrought on the party.

The whole of the government's energy should be spent on governing now and building a programme from which, within and year, we will be seeking permission to rule for another five years.

Far from helping sketch out a new roadmap, the McBride activities shine a searchlight on the paucity of the government's programme.

Week after week MPs have been turning up but with almost no serious work to do. There is the odd bill to be sure. But there is no legislative programme to speak of. Even the debates that are put on to fill in time are ones that deny MPs a vote. The whole exercise is vacuous.

Labour MPs are left staring into the abyss - that nothingness of Harold Wilson's statement. There is a wish amongst all sections of the PLP for the government to start governing. We wouldn't care too much whether the ideas were Blairite or non-Blairite, as long as we could give the impression of supporting a government that was using the next year to mark out why we should stay in office.

We have lived through an age of record public expenditure provision, but are now entering one of increasing cuts. There have been some beneficial results from this huge tax-payer largesse, but they in no way match up to what radicals predicted would be the outcome.

Have we been on the wrong track, and if so, what should now be our approach? Or is the task to look much more carefully how each pound of tax-payers' money is spent so we get a much bigger bang for our buck? Instead of this debate, we see the energy at the heart of Number 10 going into trying to smear the opposition.

It is this contrast between how we should be behaving, and what has been exposed, that is the real killer. A necessary government information machine has been corrupted by a spin that seeks not to inform but control and, if needs be destroy. And it has been in existence for over a decade.

McBride sat on the Prime Minister's political War Cabinet. If this is the war the Prime Minister thinks the country wants he is in for a very rude awakening. In the meantime, Labour supporters are left bewildered and wondering what happened to the moral crusading side of our mission.

Frank Field, MP (Lab)

6 May 2010 at 21:26  
Anonymous Christian Socialist said...

18 mins to go. And a further 5 years of labour is confirmed!

6 May 2010 at 21:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well lads, the Socialists are losing heart:

6 May 2010 at 21:47  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Your Grace

Signal from HMS Cameron 'Engage the enemy more closely!'

Heard on the bridge of HMS Brown 'There's something wrong with our bloody candidates today'.

With apologies to the late Admirals Lord Nelson and Sir David Beatty.

6 May 2010 at 22:05  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace, hung parliament. Liberals on only 59!! So much for clegg. I suspect with only 20 seats needed for con majority we will have an ulster unionist/con agreement....Cameron for no 10 it seems.

6 May 2010 at 22:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go Ulster Unionists!


Forward Judaeo-Christians!

6 May 2010 at 22:13  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

His Grace has decided to stay up all night and tweet his thoughts.

6 May 2010 at 22:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

Does that mean your 'twitterings' will be posted on your site?

I mean how can we keep up?

6 May 2010 at 22:23  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr D. Singh,

His Grace's tweets are visible on the right.

You ability to 'keep up' is proportionate to your consumption of alcohol...

6 May 2010 at 22:25  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

You may need to refresh to see the rolling commentary

6 May 2010 at 22:26  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very good, Your Grace.

6 May 2010 at 22:27  
Blogger Anglichan said...

I see Gordon's already sorted out his next job.

6 May 2010 at 22:53  
Anonymous Adrian Peirson said...

Can someone explain to me what the difference will be between a conservative Govt and a labour Govt.

8 May 2010 at 18:03  

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