Sunday, May 16, 2010

The Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain

Is it not a joy to see the return of tradition and respect for an ancient office of state? The Conservative order manifests itself in patriotism, custom, respect for the law, loyalty to the Monarch, and in the willing acceptance of the privileges of those to whom privilege is granted.

The return of the wig gives hope for the future.

The office of Lord Chancellor has behind it more than a thousand years of history. Kenneth Clarke QC is now an ex officio Church Commissioner and in the Order of Precedence outranks all politicians; indeed, he defers only to the Royal Family and to the Archbishop of Canterbury.


Blogger Timothy Belmont said...

It's great to see Ken Clarke wearing traditional, ceremonial attire, a fine example to others in authority.

Contrast this with the present Speaker, little Bercow, who still refuses to respect his Office by wearing a headmaster's outfit.

16 May 2010 at 11:14  
Anonymous photo ex machina said...


Nah, I think Bercow's decision to lose the robes was the right one. The frills and fancies are all very nice but they're hardly desirable or relevant in a modern democracy. To me they illustrate Britain's essentially backwards-looking character in a world that's moved on, but to some, Widdy for example, they appear to be a source of comfort - "we never lost the Empire!"

16 May 2010 at 12:07  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

Can he get rid of Bercow?

16 May 2010 at 12:10  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

What exactly can he do?

16 May 2010 at 12:11  
Blogger UKViewer said...

Ken Clark is a good sound Tory Politician. He was a good Chancellor in his day and did a fine job for the Tories.

I just missed his Hush Puppies in this outfit, surely they could have provided a pair of black ones to go wiwith it.

16 May 2010 at 12:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats the spirit, who better to send our affiant claim of right to, thus undoing all the other unconstitutional acts of the fabians.

The will of the people should manifest itself in patriotism, custom, respect for the law, loyalty to Monarch, and in the willing acceptance of rights as retained by those who claim it.

Signed: Neal Inkrist

16 May 2010 at 12:18  
Blogger John R said...

Shame Clark is so anti-UK/pro-EU.

How can someone who apparently respects the UK's traditions also wish to ride roughshod over its democracy by feeding us to the unelected EU?

16 May 2010 at 12:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All hail Pooh-Bah!!

16 May 2010 at 12:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

You say that the Lord Chancellor only defers to the Royal Family and the Archbishop of Canterbury?

Aren’t you forgetting that more people follow Archbishop Cranmer than the ‘Grand Mufti’ of Canterbury?

[Welcome back: you can’t kill a man twice.]

16 May 2010 at 13:26  
Blogger 1662 BCP said...

Now, if only we had an occupant of Lambeth Palace who would dress approprately. Lose the cassock-albs and chasubiles. Bring back the Magpie look.

16 May 2010 at 15:18  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Photo ex machina: how are they irrelevant to a modern democracy? Surely if we are ever to learn lessons from history, we must always have some recourse to the past? The ceremony and dignity of certain conventions allows us the occasional backward glance to ensure that we are not heading-off course.

Further, you say that Britain is essentially a backwards-looking country, as if it were somehow a wholly a bad thing?

A quick glance around the world in general, serves to counter your point somewhat. I for one prefer to have some sort of anchor, against the rogue tides of a world in flux.

My only regret is that we, in this country, seem to have forgotten certain 'Island' essentials that ensure our safety in all manner of ways.

Bercow is not 'modern' but merely vain of his supposed appearance; he is not 'big enough' to fulfil his historical role alone; it weighs too heavy upon his slender grasp.

Our institutions may on occasion fall below what we would wish; the ceremony and dignity of those positions allow us a yardstick for their safe retrieval.

16 May 2010 at 15:52  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Perhaps I should remind Cranmer of his comments from
Cranmer would rather have David Cameron’s ‘religious right’ than Ken Clarke’s secular left any day

Clarke is not likely further your Christian ambitions; he is a pragmatist, not an ideologue with little interest in the “faith communities”.

How ridiculous he looks dressed for a Gilbert and Sullivan opera rather than prepared for a modern democracy. The sooner we get rid of all this ridiculous dressing up the more likely it is that the electorate will take Parliament seriously. Look forward not back.

16 May 2010 at 16:25  
Blogger Gnostic said...

We have a rabid Europhile who defers only to a monarch who has foresworn her oath and a wibbling Archbishop of Canterbury who got his job from Tony Blair.

I don't see anything to be cheerful about...

16 May 2010 at 16:27  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Your Grace

A rather revealing tweet:-

holysmoke RT @Caral4Christ: @holysmoke who is the anti catholic Tory behind archbishop cranmer blog? <Adrian Hilton

16 May 2010 at 16:38  
Anonymous Oswin said...

John R - yes indeed; surely your point is of greater import than the 'whig' - but as above, I hope the 'whig' will help to control its wearer!

16 May 2010 at 16:48  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Your Grace (Adrian)

After reading your Wiki page HERE, and reading the reviews for your book - The Principality and Power of Europe, it leaves no doubt about your identity.

What an excellent sounding book, I shall order a copy ASAP.

16 May 2010 at 17:02  
Anonymous Grudermann Swift said...

Jared Gaites

You need to get with the times. Cranmer was outed months ago :-

'Cranmer' on Jade Goody: the creepiest blog post of the year

16 May 2010 at 17:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From David Lonsdale

Adrian Hilton's book, The Principality and Power of Europe, is an excellent read. I have passed it round several friends and at least one lady has bought her own copy. No wonder Gummer did not like Mr Hilton.

16 May 2010 at 17:26  
Blogger The Heresiarch said...

He has the costume, certainly. Unfortunately, the job is what Blair's botched reform left it, a grand sinecure tacked onto the Ministry of Justice.

16 May 2010 at 17:41  
Blogger Ginro said...

Eh? Cranmer is actually someone called 'Adrian Hilton'??? NO! How dare you say that Archbishop Cranmer is someone else! It is Archbishop Cranmer! I bet you tell little children that Father Christmas doesn't exist as well don't you? I'll let you in on a little secret, Father Christmas actually does exist, but not in the way you think. And that statement would take a lot more explaining than I think you'd appreciate from me, lol.

16 May 2010 at 19:58  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

There is a gent at my office that wears a wig. Can't say that it makes him look good.

16 May 2010 at 20:34  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Jared Gaites - are you a child or just an imbecile? You do realise that adults at a magic show are aware that the magician is not really sawing the woman in half but they enjoy it anyway?

Your Grace, there is nothing to be gained by merely transmitting ancient traditions to the next generation if we do not also transmit the reason those traditions came into existence. That is the problem with many of our fine institutions - the CofE being a primary example - where HOW things should be done becomes more important than WHY things should be done.

I do not believe in ditching things merely because they are old but by the same token nor do I believe ancient traditions are superior merely because of their antiquity ... the behaviour of the Pharisees teach us that lesson.

So convince me - what is the rationale behind such apparel?

16 May 2010 at 21:26  
Blogger Sam Vega said...

Rebel Saint: "the magician is not really sawing the woman in half but they enjoy it anyway".

Thanks to Gruderman Swift, I checked out the Jade Goody article. It seems that Cranmer IS sawing the woman in half, and the audience are still enjoying it anyway.

Nasty, nasty stuff, none of it excused by any amount of cod archaic language and feigned high-mindedness.

Your Grace, my arse.

16 May 2010 at 22:15  
Anonymous martin sewell said...

The English have a penchant for the quaint and mildy eccentric from the Henley Regatta attire to Pearly Kings and Queens, Morris Men to Hunting Pink, Fancy dress in Cricket grounds to Stag/ Hen weekends.

None of this has anything to do with modernisation, and we should not allow it to become so. We can combine a modern outlook without sacrificing heritage. Equally, we should not surrender functioning parts of our institutions on the promise of the "merits" of the new
which are often the product of shallow analysis and indifferent intellects.

Ken has the potential to be a good Lord Chancellor, so we ought to wish him well. He looks the part.

16 May 2010 at 22:49  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Child Roland to the dark tower came,
His word was still, "Fie, foh, and fum,
I smell the blood of a British man. [Edgar in Lear 3.4.182-4]

So the nasties are here tonight, playing busily with red herrings! btw Thommy misrepresented the Goody article (as one of his reader's observed); and my own response, I'm sure, sought some understanding of the girl's situation. I've seen too much of death by carcinoma to wish to judge its victims. So let's not drink blood or eat flesh at anybody's altar - neither Thommy's nor that of any insurgent to these pages.

Further, I think our robes and regalia are about symbolism. Apart from the dignity and seriousness of office, another signification is continuity - which extends as part of the 'stability' the present load of deconstructors pretend to be constructing!

In other words, it's about wheat and chaff: if the kernel is rotten or neoplastic, the outer coat serves as a foil. It appears to be hollow, thus revealing the sick, weak, thing within. Rather like the HOC itself, come to think of it. One need only watch recent PMQs to see how all dignity and substance elude the hypocritical lightweight 'voices,' and the silly nodding heads of incumbent hams and their extras.

Welcome back Your Grace. I add my prayers for your well-being to those of your regular supporters.

17 May 2010 at 00:25  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Sam Vega - well I just re-checked both of Cranmer's articles on Goody, and re-read their commentaries. Either you read carelessly, or English is not your natureal language, or your comprehension is otherwise challenged. Thommy is also clearly unreliable.

Here are His Grace's final wishes for the girl:
In paradisum deducant te angeli,
in tuo adventu suscipiant te martyres,
et perducant te in civitatem sanctam Jerusalem.
Chorus angelorum te suscipiat,
et cum Lazaro quondam paupere
aeternam habeas requiem.

And here is the translation provided by a thoughtful communicant:
Faure's Requiem - IN PARADISUM

May the angels lead you into paradise,
may the martyrs receive you
in your coming,
and may they guide you
into the holy city, Jerusalem.
May the chorus of angels receive you and with Lazarus once poor
may you have eternal rest.

If you deem those sentiments unpleasant, then many of us here are intent on giving a wide berth to your master.

Oh - and if anyone's sawing or dismembering anyone, it's not His Grace or his communicants. It's the marxists and the euSSR, who are still at work in our so-called government.

17 May 2010 at 06:26  
Anonymous no nonny said...


17 May 2010 at 06:28  
Blogger Sam Vega said...

no nonny,

No problems with all the bit about paradise, etc. The problem is that Adrian mixes it up with a lot of dankly camp misogyny and schadenfreude.

If you like that sort of thing, then fine. You also seem to like using daft anachronistic language, and I guess this is a stagnant little backwater of the internet where those things come together.

17 May 2010 at 06:56  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Sam Vega said... "If you like that sort of thing, then fine. You also seem to like using daft anachronistic language, and I guess this is a stagnant little backwater of the internet where those things come together.

Apparently, a lot of people do seem to like "that sort of thing" which is why His Graces blog is consistently one of the most popular political blogs in the country.

You don't like? Then go find some other capital of religio-political discourse which provides you with the pure, fresh, life-giving water you crave.

17 May 2010 at 07:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rebel Saint

Superb post!

I thought this blog was in fact run by Paris Hilton - some posters are clearly confused.

17 May 2010 at 08:14  
Anonymous no nonny said...

Mr. Vega you will believe what you like; many disagree with you. I do not find any of His Grace's posts to be misogynistic (and yes, I've probably ploughed through more feminist/gender/franco-german claptrap than you ever heard of). I have no idea what the german thing is and don't want to (-I use English).

Yes, I value English and its greatest literature. My interest and reading extend from the earliest evidence we have. Unlike His Grace and regular communicants, you apparently don't know that such things exist (here and now, even) or what they're about. Obviously, you would throw it all away even if you fell over it. Sad to say, little writing of good quality emerges nowadays, which is why His Grace is so refreshing. You, however, do not know what it is you seek to destroy. You may be surprised at the suggestion that people like you have always existed: there is nothing new under the sun. Each to his own.

This present-day strand, as you apparently have failed notice, is about Mr. Clarke, the 'government,' and the appearance of neu politics under old cloaks.

And that, Sr. Vega, is 'all she [I] wrote.'

17 May 2010 at 08:28  
Blogger Botogol said...

hang on - isn't that Ken Clarke wearing a Lord Chancellor costume?

17 May 2010 at 08:58  
Anonymous Sam Vega said...

Again, no worries with any of that. The internet is full of little cliques pretending to be something else through using odd language. Wizards, ninja swordsmen, sex goddesses, you name it. Pretending to be camp anglican high tories who get all hissy about modern politics and culture? All good clean fun, providing you don't confuse it with reality.

But on the internet, you are in the same position as people who dress up in old-fashioned clothing and walk about in public. It is not illegal, or even immoral, but you can expect ridicule. I know that this will have you reaching for the thesaurus, and drive you into loftier and loftier positions of de haut en bas scorn and snottiness, but that's all part of the fun, isn't it?
"....'Ere!! That bloke who writes like he's a dead Archbishop! He's really a teacher called Adrian from Slough!"

17 May 2010 at 09:23  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Sam ... you really are a top class tit. Is that clear enough for you? Oh, and well done on mastering how to use Google by the way. (And just for the record, my name isn't really 'Rebel Saint' either)

17 May 2010 at 09:38  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Happy day!

17 May 2010 at 09:52  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Your Grace, 'Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Mr Vega.' Or is that an un-Christian thought?

17 May 2010 at 09:53  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Sam Vega,

His Grace has no idea what you're talking about. He is not from Slough and has never lived there.

Perhaps you might check your facts before you confuse reality with trivial internet gossip from unreliable sources.

17 May 2010 at 09:56  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...


And I have gone and ordered that book Your Grace. Then have you any advice about whether to read it or not?

17 May 2010 at 10:19  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Jared Gaites,

It is somewhat outdated, polemical and occasionally quite wrong, but an entertaining sequel nonetheless to Boris Johnson's 'The Dream of Rome'.

17 May 2010 at 10:24  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Redemtion. Another book also. I will read that one first. You see how dull my life is!

17 May 2010 at 10:26  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


This is Britain. We like tradition, dressing up,pomp and ceremony and speaking to a dead Archbishop's ashes. Maybe it's a bit camp (Ken Clarke certainly is in that getup) but we like it, ok? And if you don't, then go somewhere else where everyone dresses in grey and sits on yellow plastic chairs to show how proletarian they are.

Your Grace, good to see you back.

17 May 2010 at 11:25  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

Photo ex Machina, on the subject of the Lord Chancellor's costume, says "Nah".
I prefer dignity and tradition to "Nah".

17 May 2010 at 13:18  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Redemption - even.

17 May 2010 at 15:08  
Anonymous RobertTheDevil said...

Who said "A nation without a past has no future" ?

17 May 2010 at 16:53  
Blogger Jared Gaites said...

Robert The Devil

No idea to be honest, but you could also say that he who lives in the past will never live in the future.

Someone has asked if I am an imbecile or a child. Difficult one. I am 48 next month so being a child is now physically gone, even though I would love to be six again. I suppose I could have a mental age of six, but I don't honestly believe this to be the case.

This leaves imbecile as an option. I know I have made some terrible decisions in the past, based upon emotions and imagination, and they have ruined much of my life up to a point. But there again it is my life and not anybody else's so it was deemed to happen I suppose. I have an active imagination and far too many emotions. Could this mean I am an imbecile? Possibly; I have certainly acted like one on many occasions, especially after drinking fermented solutions of alcohol based intoxicants.

I am definitely no genius, I admit this. Although it is true to say that I used to be two years old once, and in comparison to then, I have come on in leaps and bounds, and it is true to say that looking back, I am now highly developed and quite the intellectual.

17 May 2010 at 17:32  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Sam Vega at 09.23...if anyone sounds like a teacher from Slough...

One can imagine the rasp of leather elbow-patches and the snide curling of the lip...

17 May 2010 at 18:10  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Jared Gaites at 17.32 - hail to thee blithe imbecile! Clearly you are my long lost brother; the traits are there...blood will out, as they say!

Secretly though, I suspect you are a tad or two brighter than a certain Samuel Vega....who, regardless of his name, appears not to be the brightest star in anyone's constellation.

17 May 2010 at 18:25  

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