I wish i could share with you what the lord has shown me in the last 2 days, but we all know some things we are shown are too intimate for words in our own journeys of salvation through christ.
It is often hard to endure these times of great trial, Your Grace. I trust that you have family and many corporeal friends to help bear the weight of your heavy heart and spirit. As a communicant I offer my sincerest condolences and sympathy.
There has also been a death in my family, last week. Nephew, 25 years’ old jumped out of the H….. Hotel in London last week. He had been a multi-millionaire. Loved the adrenalin rush at the roulette wheel. Handsome, tall, good looking Australian – had it all – and threw it all away.
The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: For thou art with me; Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies; Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
The way was dark through the valleys the hills loomed too high to climb yet the light at the end of the chasm beckoned the weary one on.
At last the trail on this earth reached the cleft deep in the rock --- one last footstep in shadow --- a hand reaching through from the light --- the traveller grasped it tightly, and gently slipped from sight.
Arm in arm they ascended together, the steps on the other side, to the crowd of familiar faces, to welcoming kisses and hugs, to meadows of flowers and birdsong, resplendent in heavenly dawn.
I wish you all the comfort you need and thank you for sharing that music. That man is capable of producing such beauty is a much needed counter to the national tragedy of the last few days. Take care of yourself
On Monday I sat with my wife as her mother died so I have some sense of your loss. As we waited for the end, we read the Psalms over some hours and they have never given up their meaning so well as in such a context. May the Lord bless you and keep you and all those whom you love and have loved.
One of the blessings, surely Your Grace, is that so many of your communicants feel sorrow and sympathy for you at this most difficult time - these feelings are sincere and heartfelt.
And to Mr D Singh, I do feel for your family's inexplicable loss and offer my condolences. There is sometimes a terrible and unpredictable fragility in the ego of the young male.
A terrible event, Mr Singh, for which there can be little consolation in this life.
Death is the last, great enemy.
But we live in the expectation of the resurrection, when all tears shall be wiped away and God will set all to rights.
No comforts, no explanations, no hope, no meaning for atheists; which doesn't mean they are wrong, but what a horrible empty meaningless view of reality they live with.
Hope this response is not superfluous. But the video and postings above elicit continuing thoughts, which extend also to Mr. Singh and Mr. and Mrs. Sewell. Beyond the tumult, may the "still small voice" remain with you.*
perhaps for another day , but did anyone watch last part of Genius of Britain in which Prof Dawkins asked Prof Hawkins if any questions were left for science to answer then went onto to give a glossy account his biological conviction on "altruism" via the little know works of his posthumus friend prof Hamilton.
It was quite interesting how altruism , examplified in the insect world such as ants , was the used to suggest all human behaviour was linked to the preserving or passing of genes and Hamilton did in prof Dawkins thinking finish off many of the loose ends of Darwins great leap.
I havent read much on hamiltons often elusive writings as he seems to have run a puzzle type approach to finding a working theory . But then i thought even after all the chasing around and trying to patch altruism together , at best he was trying to describe systems relationships described by reason and ergo no need for god and his belief we are deluded beacuse we havent devloped proper reasoning capacities .
totally missing the point that some of the great scientists believed in God , for surely if people who praise god are deluded then they do not reason , so how come they made the great scientific discoveries then ??
Altruism looks more like a fortunate indexing system than any real challenge to gods presence .
Prof Dawkins is a science professor , I dont want to poke fun at a long thought out position , nor for him to think any of us or some how bound with some sort of fear that prevents us from reasoning as he thinks would reveal the truth to us all .
If altruism becomes biological adaptaions , then isnt it possible somthing called a perfect being may exist at the end of Darwins progressive branching ?. if symetry is so important why cant there be a possible one between physical and spiritual worlds .Why doesnt the force to simplify genteic transfer mean life shouldnt progress beyond virus or bacterium??
Not a machine, God created every human being with a body,a physical form.This is what we share with all forms of life on Earth as well as plants.God also gave every human being the capacity to think,react,and decide-mind emotions and will.We can group these psychological behaviour mechanisms together and think of them together as the soul.It is within the soul that human behaviour is determined,for it is here that decisions are made,plans are conceived and the will is exercised to bring the body into action. The soul as defined is a characteristic we share with animals,but not with plants. So animals are like humans they have a soul,a capacity to think, react,and decide.God however did not create animals with the capacity to filled and guided by His Holy Spirit. God inbuilt animals with a wonderful mechanism called INSTINCT. ( Part 1)
Part 2, Because of instinct behaviour patterns are animals are repetitive and predictable. Not so with humans; We were created to respond to our Creator with faith ,trust, and love responding to Him and being guided by Him not because we have to( instinct) but because we want to. This way we exercise our God given free will. This is why faith is so important to the Christian.
Imagine the chaos that would result if the instinctive principle were broken in the animal world.
That is exactly what happen when man rejected God and decided to go his own way. .................. (Paraphrased from an article By W Ian Thomas , The indwelling Life of Christ.(The second best book I own)
Hey guys... I know it's not really my place to make the suggestion, but I can't help a gentle reaction in view of the several bereavements mentioned here. Isn't the previous strand still open?
I would love to argue with not a machine over altruism or challenge Anababtist’s comments on the “atheist’s meaningless view of reality” but I feel but perhaps we should await Cranmer’s return before resuming “hostilities”.
Hostilities Graham Davies ? Why I thought we were just bringing you up to speed ! LOL
Thankyou Len , as much as your post helps to give clarity , the conviction of Altruism as as being the only and correct understanding will need some thought.The bible is not just refined altruism and even if it were , some would have to ask how it was arrived at in a an alledged civilisation without modern reason.
But as many have said will resume when his grace returns , respects in this fast moving world are forgotten.
Our lives hang by a slender thread as evidenced by His Graces recent. bereavement. There is a time for every purpose under heaven. The time to receive Christ as Saviour is NOW, who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Mr not a machine and others, you may be interested to read The Selfless Gene by Charles Foster.
Here's a quote from the blurb: 'Charles Darwin wrote to his Harvard friend Asa Gray that he could see no reason why a man or other animal may not have been aboriginally produced by laws expressly designed by a omniscient Creator. Charles Foster shows himself a true disciple of Darwin by choosing the difficult option of defending reason against the fundamentalism of both religion and atheism. He succeeds marvellously. His book is fun to read and an important antidote to the shrill hysteria about evolution from both extremes. Such unreason ought to be rejected out of hand but still captivates many people. Read THE SELFLESS GENE and inwardly digest it.' -- Professor Sam Berry, Professor of Genetics, University College, London
This is the best book on this subject (altruism) I have ever read, and you can get it currently from The Book Depository for £6.23, with free delivery.
Read the "selfish gene" by prof Steve Jones which was very interesting at the exciting time when the first animals were being gene sequenced (quite a bit before human was done), so perhaps selfless gene is a response .Will try and fit it in at some point , although into mechanical engineering at moment .
The Selfish Gene was published by Richard Dawkins in, I think, 1976. The title and the idea are Dawkins's. Maybe the article by Steve Jones was a review?
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Archbishop Cranmer takes as his inspiration the words of Sir Humphrey Appleby: ‘It’s interesting,’ he observes, ‘that nowadays politicians want to talk about moral issues, and bishops want to talk politics.’ It is the fusion of the two in public life, and the necessity for a wider understanding of their complex symbiosis, which leads His Grace to write on these very sensitive issues.
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Condolences to you. May you be comforted in your loss by the assurance of the Gospel.
And, thank you for sharing the moment from King's Chapel with us all.
My condolences also, Your Grace.
Sincere condolences, Your Grace. Thank you for the video from King's.
Thoughts reached an unusual place ?
I wish i could share with you what the lord has shown me in the last 2 days, but we all know some things we are shown are too intimate for words in our own journeys of salvation through christ.
may your grace find his spiritual food
My condolences Your Grace.
It is often hard to endure these times of great trial, Your Grace. I trust that you have family and many corporeal friends to help bear the weight of your heavy heart and spirit. As a communicant I offer my sincerest condolences and sympathy.
You have many friends here too, Your Grace.
Your Grace
My condolences.
There has also been a death in my family, last week. Nephew, 25 years’ old jumped out of the H….. Hotel in London last week. He had been a multi-millionaire. Loved the adrenalin rush at the roulette wheel. Handsome, tall, good looking Australian – had it all – and threw it all away.
The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.
The 23rd Psalm
Barchester sends its condolences, Your Grace.
Let me add my condolences too
Deepest Sympathy & condolences Your Grace.
The way was dark through the valleys
the hills loomed too high to climb
yet the light at the end of the chasm
beckoned the weary one on.
At last the trail on this earth
reached the cleft deep in the rock ---
one last footstep in shadow ---
a hand reaching through from the light ---
the traveller grasped it tightly,
and gently slipped from sight.
Arm in arm they ascended together,
the steps on the other side,
to the crowd of familiar faces,
to welcoming kisses and hugs,
to meadows of flowers and birdsong,
resplendent in heavenly dawn.
My condolences, sir, and thank you for the piece from Faure's requiem - it was quite delightful.
I wish you all the comfort you need and thank you for sharing that music. That man is capable of producing such beauty is a much needed counter to the national tragedy of the last few days. Take care of yourself
Condolences
My thoughts with you in your sadness today.
My very best wishes at this sad time
Keep you pecker up, Your Grace.
Let me add my condolences as well. May God give you strength and comfort.
My condolences, your grace.
A friend of mine died suddenly earlier this week.
"Change and decay in all around I see;
O Thou who changest not, abide with me."
I condole with Your Grace.
My condolences, Your Graces
My heartfelt condolences Your Grace ! Little I can say beyond I have been in that place and suffered that anguish.
You take all the time you need, don't worry about the sissy's on here, they can get along fine pulling hair and calling names for a while.
I hope that thought can be of some comfort at this time.
Let bird song fill the air with praises for your lost one, Gods chorus up on high.
On Monday I sat with my wife as her mother died so I have some sense of your loss. As we waited for the end, we read the Psalms over some hours and they have never given up their meaning so well as in such a context. May the Lord bless you and keep you and all those whom you love and have loved.
For some reason I cannot get the link; what has happened???
A beautiful piece of music Your Grace.
I think your communicants who like this might like this album which has 'In Paradisum' on track 15 on Disc 2: (it's the Kings College Choir version)
The Most Peaceful Classical Album in the World...Ever!
Thinking of you at this difficult time, Your Grace.
Zach
Your Grace will remain in my prayers.
One of the blessings, surely Your Grace, is that so many of your communicants feel sorrow and sympathy for you at this most difficult time - these feelings are sincere and heartfelt.
Your Grace
Alles Gute - Jesus also wept
G E
xxx
My thoughts are with you, my friend.
My condolences, Your Grace.
And to Mr D Singh, I do feel for your family's inexplicable loss and offer my condolences. There is sometimes a terrible and unpredictable fragility in the ego of the young male.
Sincere condolences-may the eternal hope we have in Christ be your comfort.
A terrible event, Mr Singh, for which there can be little consolation in this life.
Death is the last, great enemy.
But we live in the expectation of the resurrection, when all tears shall be wiped away and God will set all to rights.
No comforts, no explanations, no hope, no meaning for atheists; which doesn't mean they are wrong, but what a horrible empty meaningless view of reality they live with.
Deepest sympathies to you, Your Grace and to D. Singh.
We all have assurance in the Blessed Hope.
Hope this response is not superfluous. But the video and postings above elicit continuing thoughts, which extend also to Mr. Singh and Mr. and Mrs. Sewell.
Beyond the tumult, may the "still small voice" remain with you.*
*I Kings 19, esp. 11, 12.
perhaps for another day , but did anyone watch last part of Genius of Britain in which Prof Dawkins asked Prof Hawkins if any questions were left for science to answer then went onto to give a glossy account his biological conviction on "altruism" via the little know works of his posthumus friend prof Hamilton.
It was quite interesting how altruism , examplified in the insect world such as ants , was the used to suggest all human behaviour was linked to the preserving or passing of genes and Hamilton did in prof Dawkins thinking finish off many of the loose ends of Darwins great leap.
I havent read much on hamiltons often elusive writings as he seems to have run a puzzle type approach to finding a working theory . But then i thought even after all the chasing around and trying to patch altruism together , at best he was trying to describe systems relationships described by reason and ergo no need for god and his belief we are deluded beacuse we havent devloped proper reasoning capacities .
totally missing the point that some of the great scientists believed in God , for surely if people who praise god are deluded then they do not reason , so how come they made the great scientific discoveries then ??
Altruism looks more like a fortunate indexing system than any real challenge to gods presence .
Prof Dawkins is a science professor , I dont want to poke fun at a long thought out position , nor for him to think any of us or some how bound with some sort of fear that prevents us from reasoning as he thinks would reveal the truth to us all .
If altruism becomes biological adaptaions , then isnt it possible somthing called a perfect being may exist at the end of Darwins progressive branching ?. if symetry is so important why cant there be a possible one between physical and spiritual worlds .Why doesnt the force to simplify genteic transfer mean life shouldnt progress beyond virus or bacterium??
May the soul of the departed rest in peace.
Not a machine, God created every human being with a body,a physical form.This is what we share with all forms of life on Earth as well as plants.God also gave every human being the capacity to think,react,and decide-mind emotions and will.We can group these psychological behaviour mechanisms together and think of them together as the soul.It is within the soul that human behaviour is determined,for it is here that decisions are made,plans are conceived and the will is exercised to bring the body into action.
The soul as defined is a characteristic we share with animals,but not with plants.
So animals are like humans they have a soul,a capacity to think, react,and decide.God however did not create animals with the capacity to filled and guided by His Holy Spirit. God inbuilt animals with a wonderful mechanism called INSTINCT.
( Part 1)
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Part 2, Because of instinct behaviour patterns are animals are repetitive and predictable.
Not so with humans;
We were created to respond to our Creator with faith ,trust, and love responding to Him and being guided by Him not because we have to( instinct) but because we want to.
This way we exercise our God given free will.
This is why faith is so important to the Christian.
Imagine the chaos that would result if the instinctive principle were broken in the animal world.
That is exactly what happen when man rejected God and decided to go his own way.
..................
(Paraphrased from an article By W Ian Thomas , The indwelling Life of Christ.(The second best book I own)
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Hey guys... I know it's not really my place to make the suggestion, but I can't help a gentle reaction in view of the several bereavements mentioned here. Isn't the previous strand still open?
I would love to argue with not a machine over altruism or challenge Anababtist’s comments on the “atheist’s meaningless view of reality” but I feel but perhaps we should await Cranmer’s return before resuming “hostilities”.
Hostilities Graham Davies ? Why I thought we were just bringing you up to speed ! LOL
Thankyou Len , as much as your post helps to give clarity , the conviction of Altruism as as being the only and correct understanding will need some thought.The bible is not just refined altruism and even if it were , some would have to ask how it was arrived at in a an alledged civilisation without modern reason.
But as many have said will resume when his grace returns , respects in this fast moving world are forgotten.
Our lives hang by a slender thread as evidenced by His Graces recent. bereavement.
There is a time for every purpose under heaven.
The time to receive Christ as Saviour is NOW, who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Mr not a machine and others, you may be interested to read The Selfless Gene by Charles Foster.
Here's a quote from the blurb:
'Charles Darwin wrote to his Harvard friend Asa Gray that he could see no reason why a man or other animal may not have been aboriginally produced by laws expressly designed by a omniscient Creator. Charles Foster shows himself a true disciple of Darwin by choosing the difficult option of defending reason against the fundamentalism of both religion and atheism. He succeeds marvellously. His book is fun to read and an important antidote to the shrill hysteria about evolution from both extremes. Such unreason ought to be rejected out of hand but still captivates many people. Read THE SELFLESS GENE and inwardly digest it.' -- Professor Sam Berry, Professor of Genetics, University College, London
This is the best book on this subject (altruism) I have ever read, and you can get it currently from The Book Depository for £6.23, with free delivery.
Highly recommended.
www.thebookdepository.co.uk
Read the "selfish gene" by prof Steve Jones which was very interesting at the exciting time when the first animals were being gene sequenced (quite a bit before human was done), so perhaps selfless gene is a response .Will try and fit it in at some point , although into mechanical engineering at moment .
Your Grace
Mr bluedog
Mr Anabaptist
Mr IanCad
Miss no nonny
Mr Sewell
And to my fellow posters: Peace be unto you.
no nonny, thank you:
The LORD said, "Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the LORD, for the LORD is about to pass by."
Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the LORD, but the LORD was not in the wind.
After the wind there was an earthquake, but the LORD was not in the earthquake.
After the earthquake came a fire, but the LORD was not in the fire.
And after the fire came a gentle whisper.
When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave.
Then a voice said to him, "What are you doing here,…”
My condolences. I know what it's like.
"Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning" (Psalm 30:5)
I recommend a reading of the Kaddish prayer of mourning - used by Jews, but applicable for all believing Christians.
God bless
Dave Faulks
Mr not a machine,
The Selfish Gene was published by Richard Dawkins in, I think, 1976. The title and the idea are Dawkins's. Maybe the article by Steve Jones was a review?
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