Sunday, June 13, 2010

Van Rompuy wants clearer 'hierarchy' to deal with future crises

According to EU Observer, President Van Rompuy has said he is ‘looking to establish a clearer "hierarchy" among the EU institutions and member states to make it easier to deal with any future crises in the eurozone’.

The President is ‘in charge of a task-force looking into the future of economic governance (as opposed to government) in the EU’. He want ‘informal procedures and informal co-ordination mechanisms’ be set up to help ‘give some coherence within the EU structure’.

The problem:

‘…certainly when you are in crisis - and there is not much hierarchy or organic links between the main players and the main institutions’

The solution:

‘We are working in order to have some crisis cabinet because we are a lot of players in the field…’

And the ‘informal structure’ is likely to include:

European Commission President Jose Manuel Barros
Head of the European Central Bank Jean-Claude Trichet

And, of course, President Van Rompuy himself.

Not since the days of Octavian, Lepidus and Mark Antony has Europe been ruled by a triumvirate. This was formed on 26 November 43BC with the enactment of the Lex Titia, and it existed for two fixed five-year terms. The three-man directorate possessed supreme political authority.

And we all know how it ended.

Or perhaps, with the inexorable demise of the classics, we don’t.

As Burke observed: ‘Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.’

When will the Conservative Party take heed of the Father of Conservatism?


Blogger Gnostic said...

Not until the Conservative party elects a conservative leader...

13 June 2010 at 11:08  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

And perhaps not until the country realises that it needs a Conservative leader.

13 June 2010 at 11:18  
Anonymous a. mouse said...

And not until said leader gives us a referendum on the euSSR, or otherwise gets us out it.

13 June 2010 at 12:42  
Blogger Demetrius said...

My money is on The Praetorian Guard.

13 June 2010 at 13:16  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It occurs to me that one doesn't need special glasses to see past his disguise.

13 June 2010 at 13:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And we all know how it ended.

Or perhaps, with the inexorable demise of the classics, we don’t."

Fighting in Greece, followed by fighting in Italy, then a war in the Middle East, leading to a single leader in Europe.
Naa, couldn't happen...

13 June 2010 at 13:29  
Anonymous AnaNimosity said...

"... - and there is not much hierarchy or organic links between the main players and the main institutions’"
Huh? Which means? Does the problem arise because they 'don't have much hierarchy' with the translators? Or is the point as badly made in the original lingo-because it is intended to deceive?
Or does the 'sentence' simply point out that the puppet masters are unhappy with the degree of control they exercise over their dummies in what used to be sovereign Parliaments?

"We are working in order to have some crisis cabinet because we are a lot of players in the field..."
Fond of this 'players' business, aren't they? Is it supposed to be 'trendy' or 'savvy' English? Or should we understand that our money is all child's play to them?
Ol' Rumpy's surely not modest enough to include himself in the admission that "All the world's a stage; and all the men and women merely players..."? As Your Grace suggests, his prescience wants too much.

So to continue with Jaques' rendition of the 7 ages of man [here's the 5th]:
... And then the justice,
With eyes severe and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixt age shifts
Into the lean and slipper'd pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose, and pouch on side,
His youthful hose, well sav'd, a world too wide
For his shrunk shank, and his big manly voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness, and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans every thing. As You Like It II.vii.139/40; and 153-166).

Are Ol' Rumpy and the Triumvirate nearly there yet? Or do we have to suffer the whole Caesar saga first?

13 June 2010 at 13:45  
Anonymous IanCad said...

What Conservative Party?

13 June 2010 at 15:03  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Who's version of history?

History is penned by the victors and party politics has delivered nothing but surrender.

13 June 2010 at 15:30  
Anonymous len said...

Being a mere 'prole' the demise of the classics passed unnoticed.
But I am aware what the gentlemen of the E U are doing..
Consolidating their power!What they want is licence to do whatever they feel is appropriate to secure their own ends.

13 June 2010 at 17:48  
Anonymous Truthseeker said...

I hate to say it, but this is one step further to a one world government. I would be surprised if they spoke about it at the Bildeberg conference

13 June 2010 at 17:50  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Bred in the bone at 15:30 : ordinarilly I would agree with you that ''history is penned by the victors''.

However, a brief look at the 'teaching of history' within this country, over the last twenty-odd years, owes rather more to saving the blushes of immigrants and, the delicate sensibilities of liberal-revisionists, than to either accuracy or national pride.

Where 'sensitive issues' are raised, they are done so in such an apologetic manner as to overwhelm, to obfusticate, to denigrate and to fragment any historical perception to a point where it ceases to to have any relevance.

We have scourged, flagellated ourselves as penitents, for the sins of our forefathers; immagined or otherwise.

We cannot now invoke the spirit of 'Drake' for fear of some rejoinder of 'slaver!' ... thus we cringingly prostrate ourselves in abeyance to a past that few now recognise, let alone understand.

We have capitulated to the social mores of the time, and thus become the victim of ourselves in the castigation our own history - and all for what exactly?

For the benefit of a failed piece of social-egineering; for believing the lies of Heath; for having failed to ensure the adequacy of our own people; for succumbing to mass immigration, and the welcoming of the infidel?

In short, for the denial of the world, as it truly is?

On reflection, you're probably right after all!

Except, that is, we forsook being the 'Victor' for committing our very own form of Seppuku, by emasculating ourselves for, and before, all manner of damned, bloody foreigners!

13 June 2010 at 18:35  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Oswin at 13 June 2010 18:35

Thats the point I am making, history will be unkind to us, as it will be rewritten to suit the agenda of the winner.

Our version of history can only be true, if we prevail in our resiliance.

This battle cannot be won by votes or parties but through minds and willpower.

"His mind his Kingdom, His will his Law"-Cowper

" When the storm rages and the shipwreck of the State threatens, we can do nothing more worthy than to sink the anchor of our peaceful studies into the ground of eternity"-Kepler

13 June 2010 at 19:15  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Long may our resilience prevail!

14 June 2010 at 01:37  
Blogger Ingenieur said...

Every event, good or bad, is used as an excuse for more control to be handed over to Brussels.

The EU monster has grown by using consistent tactics for over fifty years. Those pushing for it have always lied about their ultimate intentions whilst never varying in their goals.

Their level of agreement is quite astonishing, uniting several generations of politicians of various nationalities and party allegiances. This should make plain that there is a powerful spiritual force behind it all, driving the project forward. The dis-honest tactics indicate the source - no less than the father of lies.

Now that a triumvirate is being formed to rule over the EU we can confidently expect that one strong man will emerge from among them to seize the reins of power, as happened in the first Roman Empire.

In 1938, when the sovereignty of Chechoslovakia had been surrendered Churchill said, “We are in the presence of a disaster of the first magnitude - we have sustained a defeat without a war, the consequences of which will travel far with us along our road; we have passed an awful milestone in our history, when the whole equilibrium of Europe has been deranged.
“And do not suppose that this is the end. This is only the beginning of the reckoning. This is only the first sip, the first foretaste of a bitter cup which will be proffered to us year by year unless, by a supreme recovery of moral health and martial vigour, we arise again and take our stand for freedom as in the olden time”.

Less than one year later we were at war with Germany. Today it is the sovereignty of 27 nations that as been surrendered, and the situation is no less perilous.

Is there anyone who will heed Churchill's warning today?

14 June 2010 at 09:12  
Anonymous graham wood said...

Good post Ingenieur.

You say "the situation is no less perilous", than in 1938. Perhaps not when you condier who is in charge of the "nations" wherever they be.

Isaiah: 4O.15. "Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he takes up the isles as a very little thing ... they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity"

In that context, (and there is no other) Van Rompuy and his little plans are trivial, irrelevant, and of no consequence.

14 June 2010 at 09:47  
Anonymous circus monkey said...

Trust a Eurocrat to use a crisis as an excuse for another power grab!

14 June 2010 at 12:35  
Anonymous faulksguy said...

Ingenieur - I fully concur with your conclusions - and Circus Monkey's comment. These 'crises' have been engineered so that the desired solutions are implemented - job done. There is a clearly recognisable pattern here - and it will continue. God deliver us from these devilish machinations.

14 June 2010 at 14:01  
Blogger Ingenieur said...

Amen to that.

But Scripture shows that G-d uses godless nations as His instruments of judgment when His people are disobedient (the Assyrians, the Babylonians). We as a nation have turned against G-d, and so should fear judgment. A few years under EU rule might be exactly that.

14 June 2010 at 14:28  
Anonymous Get Smart said...

Our politicians can scream and complain as much as they like but they handed over power to this man and his EU Politburo.
This little creep is just warming up.

14 June 2010 at 14:40  
Blogger Scrigg said...

Where the hell is His Grace today? There is sooo much going on in the world. We have a Christian Bishop decapitated in Turkey by a Jihadist and we have Boris Johnson in London inviting all Christians to help turn the capital around. And Prince Charles sending Oxford to sleep with Green Islam rantings and ravings.

On my blog for those who are interested.

14 June 2010 at 14:41  
Anonymous Anti-EUSSR said...

Your Grace ignores (if he is aware thereof) the 'asymetric translation' (admitted by Rumpy-Pumpy) whereby governance in the English version (translation) is (the word denoting, or at least implying) government in all other versions!
I stress, Rumpy-Pumpy has admitted this.

14 June 2010 at 16:47  
Anonymous not a machine said...

The thories of bringing about this are plausable , why of course a crisis and then a helpfull , matter of fact streamlining , and we all wake up after the bits of paper have been signed , being british with a side show Uk parliament , that funnels our discontent to the next level.

our parliament is supreme or whats the point of general elections , or for that matter the promised referendum .

NO and NO again to this farce , they act like social workers on footballers salaries , have corrupt lobbying and havent signed off any accounts in 14yrs , so bad were the last ones and the multi million pound fiddles, that they could only be read in private and not released to the public . Its our money , our laws , our country and not there play thing .

I have cast my lot with the better off out end of the debate , and am slightly alarmed that some think it will quietly go away in the coalition (it is admitted that Lisbon is the EU constitution so I still think we have not had the correct vote) .

too many policians giving away too much of our way of life and rights to determin what that should be , I would prefer us out before anymore of its expensive disasters wash up on our already damaged finances . We need lower cost politics and the EU would be an excellent place to start .

14 June 2010 at 17:43  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Greece has had its bonds reduced to junk status by Moodys. The French-controlled ECB is buying Greek bonds, presumably from French banks since German banks agreed not to offload them.

Merkel has finally succumbed to Gallic charm and agreed the 27 EU States need an "Economic Government".

With RBS and its fellow "Bankrupt Banks of Britain" owed >£100 billion by Spain this country will be strong-armed into compliance and Cameron-Clegg will willingly submit.

The German electorate want an Election. The Government they elected in October 2009 is moribund and collapsing which is why Sarkozy wants it through now before Vlams Alliance and Geert Wilders (did anyone see mention of Dutch or Belgian elections on British TV ?) increase the opposition.

14 June 2010 at 20:14  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Another important headline is the discovery by the US Geological Survey of USD 1 trillion in mineral wealth in Afghanistan - in 2007. Now we know why the the Taliban and Al Queada need to be kicked out. Communicants with atlases will also note that Afghanistan shares borders with both China and Iran.

It follows that Afghanistan is potentially a landbridge through which strategic competitor China can get access to the Persian Gulf energy resources. So, you ask, when will we get out of Afghanistan?

Answer, never.

14 June 2010 at 22:02  
Anonymous PJ said...

Bluedog, have you got a link for that?

14 June 2010 at 23:15  
Anonymous bluedog said...

PJ, herewith:

14 June 2010 at 23:23  
Anonymous PJ said...

Very intersting indeed
This is going to have big geopolitical repercussions. Why has this only just come out, when it was discovered in 2007? My apologies to His Grace for diveriting off topic

14 June 2010 at 23:32  
Anonymous Get Smart said...

"The German electorate want an Election"
In the EU game plan it makes no matter who you vote for they will control the power.

15 June 2010 at 01:44  
Anonymous Voyager said...

In the EU game plan it makes no matter who you vote for they will control the power.

Not in Belgium or Netherlands.... it is the EU in Brussels that has imported francophones into Flemish areas

15 June 2010 at 06:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Such wise words
Here's to the end of the Empire

15 June 2010 at 14:59  
Anonymous Oswin said...

bluedog at 22:02 - hell, if that's the current 'strategic thinking' then we're doomed, we're all doomed I tell you!

I mean, we don't seem able to kick-out the Taliban, let alone keep-out the Chinese! now to whet my bayonet...they don't like it up 'em you know!

15 June 2010 at 15:59  
Anonymous a mouse said...

Yes, bluedog - checked my atlas a while back. This new angle brings to mind that old story of the dragon guarding its buried treasure, the slave who pilfers from it, and the old 'hero' who ----

Well, we'll see, won't we?

15 June 2010 at 16:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never let a crisis go to waste, better yet, engineer them in the first place.

17 June 2010 at 21:59  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Just testing - the other strand isn't working.

24 June 2010 at 12:40  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Is there anyone out there post stake-burning??? Seemingly the maximum postings being 455, we need now to take up the slack elsewhere. Helloooooo, coooooooooeeeeeeee!

1 July 2010 at 16:49  
Anonymous Tony B said...

where is the geezer? Hope you are well, YG.

5 July 2010 at 15:49  
Anonymous Romney said...

Is there life in this thread where the other has entered the Valley of Death?

Can we animate the Dry Bones of Cranmer?

10 July 2010 at 01:10  
Blogger Alcuin Bramerton said...

Van Rompuy has a serious difficulty with the involvement of José Manuel Durão Barroso. The latter is known in Brussels to have been centrally involved with the abduction four-year-old Madeleine McCann from the Ocean Club Resort, Praia da Luz, Portugal, on Thursday 3rd May 2007. Peter Mandelson knows this too, but has not mentioned it in his book. More details here.

11 July 2010 at 17:15  
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6 August 2010 at 09:16  
Anonymous Michal said...

Oh for the love of God, only a complete twat can compare Triumvirate or Rome with EU.

11 August 2010 at 23:54  

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