Tuesday, September 28, 2010

ONS counts homosexuals in the whole UK but the Christians of Great Britain alone

There has been widespread coverage and much excitement/surprise/dismay at the recent ONS Integrated Household Survey, which informs us that 1.5 per cent of the UK has is either homosexual or bisexual, while 71.4 per cent of Britons call themselves Christian.

Richard Dawkins will doubtless be very disappointed. No matter how much he froths and foams at the mouth, no matter how many enlightening books he writes, no matter how much he foments religious hatred, the British public remained deluded by spiritual darkness and stubbornly steeped in mediæval superstition.

But the gay figure is far lower than the estimate used as a basis for the distribution of millions of pounds in public money to sexual equality causes. The survey showed that 94.8 per cent of adults call themselves heterosexual or straight. Another 0.5 per cent described themselves as other than straight, gay or bisexual.

His Grace is puzzled to know what this ‘other’ sexual identity might be.

The full religion statistics are as follows:

Christianity: 71.4%
Judaism: 0.6%
Islam: 4.2%
Hinduism: 1.5%
Sikhism: 0.7%
Buddhism: 0.4%
Other: 1.1%
No religion: 20.5 %

In the 2001 census, the professed faith adherence of the population was 71.6 per cent Christian, so it has barely changed in a decade. While the ‘no religion’ figure is sharply rising, there is no breakdown between the ‘aggressive secularists’, moderate atheists, agnostics or total apathetics. The figure which grabs the headlines is that 71 per cent of the population identify themselves as Christian, while 80 per cent of the entire population view religion as a distinct part of their identity.

An interesting bit of trivia from this survey is that Slough is the ‘most religious’ town in England, with 93 per cent of its population professing a religious belief, while Brighton is the lowest, with just 58 per cent of its residents professing a particular religion.

His Grace will leave his intelligent readers and discerning communicants to put two and two together.

But he would also like to reveal a slight ONS sleight of hand in these figures.

When you examine the tables and charts in the report, those on sexual identity are for the whole UK, ie, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:

Yet when you get to the tables and charts on religious affiliation, they are for Great Britain only, ie, specifically excluding Northern Ireland.

His Grace enquired of the ONS why this should be so, and it appears to be a bizarre consequence of devolution.

In England, Scotland and Wales, its parliaments and assembly request the ONS to enquire into their populations’ religious affiliation; the Northern Ireland Assembly, however, seeks to enquire into people’s religious belonging.

Affiliation, which may be an expression of anxiety about national identity, can be interpreted much more as a straightforward cultural expression than a notion of belonging, which has connotations of active belief and practice.

Clearly, in Northern Ireland, if you subscribe to the Grace Davie doctrine of believing without belonging, you are not a ‘proper’ Christian.

At least for statistical purposes.

If one factors in the Northern Ireland figures, whilst acknowledging that ‘belonging’ is quite different from ‘affiliating’, the 2010 figure for Christian (Protestant and Roman Catholic) adherence is a colossal 93 per cent.

And no doubt if the question had been a more ‘relaxed’ enquiry into affiliation, it would have been higher. So, from this data, a conservative estimate of Christian affiliation in the UK as whole (using 2001 population census data) is at least:

England: 71.4% (of 49,138,831 = 35,085,125)
Wales: 69% (of 2,903,085 = 2,003,129)
Scotland: 72.3% (of 5,062,011 = 3,659,834)
Northern Ireland: 93% (of 1,685,267 = 1,567,298)

Which yields a total population expressing Christian affiliation of at least 42,315,386 or 72 per cent.

If the UK is 1.5 per cent homosexual or bisexual and 72 per cent Christian, might we have a Speaker’s Conference to ensure that homosexuals are not over-represented in Parliament and that Christians are fairly represented?

Or is that being phobic?

Or does none of this matter because homosexuals tend to be far more committed in their affiliation to an identity and more expressive about their sense of ‘belonging’ than millions of nominal, unregenerate Christians?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

What is fascinating is how gullible (indicative of minds operating without moral absolutes) our policy-makers and legislators have been in believing the propaganda about the one-in-ten ratio.

It reminds one of a passage in the ‘The Great Liberal Death Wish’ by Malcolm Muggeridge where he explained how easy it was to convince the ‘great British intelligentsia’ how wonderful life in the USSR was:

‘We foreign journalists in Moscow used to amuse ourselves, as a matter of fact, by competing with one another as to who could wish upon one of these intelligentsia visitors to the USSR the most out-rageous fantasy. We would tell them, for instance, that the shortage of milk in Moscow was entirely due to the fact that all milk was given nursing mothers - things like that. If they put it in the articles they subsequently wrote, then you'd score a point. One story I floated myself, for which I received considerable acclaim, was that the huge queues outside food shops came about because the Soviet workers were so ardent in building Socialism that they just wouldn't rest, and the only way the government could get them to rest for even two or three hours was organizing a queue for them to stand in. I laugh at it all now, but at the time you can imagine what a shock it was to someone like myself, who had been brought up to regard liberal intellectuals as the samurai, the absolute elite, of the human race, to find that they could be taken in by deceptions which a half-witted boy would see through in an instant.’

28 September 2010 at 09:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could say I'm 'Other' than H,G or B if I reject the terminology altogether, declining to bend my worldview into the categories of the census.

28 September 2010 at 09:24  
Anonymous len said...

There is a tiny proportion of our Society who wish to change the whole moral structure to cater for their own particular tastes and desires.This of course will oppose Christian moral standards which will have to be rejected and denied.
Just how small this faction is revealed in this study.(Numbers are often inflated to give weight and substance to this this minority)
This change of the moral structure has been done mostly by stealth step, by step.
By controlling the media this tiny group of people have virtually brainwashed the public into acceptance of their new 'moral code'.
This 'replacement Morality' flies under the banner of 'the rights of the individual,freedom of mankind,human rights, etc.They are often backed up and supported by the 'God haters,( who have an agenda of their own) This' new morality' is endorsed and protected by the creed of Political Correctness.
Whilst promising to 'free' mankind in reality it leads them(and us) into further bondage and disorder and the continuing downward spiral of our Society.

28 September 2010 at 09:39  
Anonymous Flossie said...

How wonderful it is to have YG back! I cannot get over it. Nobody else writes like this.

As for Slough (large religious Asian population, for the benefit of furriners) am I right that YG was once connected with this town? And Brighton (again for the benefit of furriners) has an extremely large gay community.

Mr Singh - this propaganda has been yet another Big Lie. Tell it often enough, and it will be believed. It was all part of the plan, the 'gay agenda'.

28 September 2010 at 10:20  
Anonymous JayBee said...

The ascendancy of alternative lifestyles lies in their acceptance more than their practice.

It is not so much the campaigning of the small percentage of homosexuals/bisexuals that gives them their disproportionate influence but rather the acceptance of their alternative lifestyles by aggressive secularists’, moderate atheists, agnostics and total apathetics under relentless bombardment of 'enlightened education' , equality law, and biased media/political agendas.

28 September 2010 at 10:33  
Blogger John said...

"Other" presumably includes transsexuals, paedophiles, asexuals and those with primary sexual attraction to non-humans.

Though I agree the categories are flawed, just as categorising people by what sort of food they prefer is flawed.

28 September 2010 at 12:28  
Anonymous Guglielmo Marinaro said...

So gays are just a tiny proportion of the population, so tiny as to be insignificant. I wonder, then, how gay nightclubs keep going. Are they run as charities? And how do magazines like Gay Times and Attitude manage to continue, particularly as many gays whom I know never buy them, and many others like myself buy them only once in a while?

28 September 2010 at 12:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guglielmo Marinaro

The magazines and newspapers earn their revenues from advertising by public sector organisations who ‘want to’ demonstrate their ‘gay friendly’ credentials.

If they do not so advertise the names of their organisations will be passed on to Stonewall – they then run the risk of being given an ‘undeservedly’ bad grading on Stonewall’s ‘Gay Friendly Equality Index’.

Welcome to the moral extortion tactics of secular humanism oiled by tax-payers money.

28 September 2010 at 13:27  
Anonymous len said...

Mystery to me.
Perhaps they have Government subsidies?

28 September 2010 at 13:28  
Anonymous len said...

(Comment addressed to Guglielmo Marinaro)

28 September 2010 at 13:30  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

The ONS sleight of hand or perhaps your own Cranmer...

You removed a rather important reference to the religious affiliation chart:

1 Respondents were asked the question ‘What is your religion, even if you are not currently practising?’ which measures religious affiliation – that is identification with a religion irrespective of actual practice or belief.
Source: Office for National Statistics

I think that you will agree that “that identification with a religion irrespective of actual practice or belief” is rather significant for two reasons:

1. Many people identify this as a Christian country and so feel themselves to be Christian by default.

2. Many people have been baptised/christened by parents who have no faith but like the idea of a church ceremony to celebrate the birth of their child.

There have been countless surveys that have questioned belief in god since the last census and all have shown that religion is in steep decline except within immigrant communities. So don’t give me any of this nonsense about being underrepresented! Your shamans are already admitted to the House of Lords without having to demonstrate any worthwhile qualifications and with so many faith schools you have an almost unlimited opportunity to indoctrinate your beliefs into our children.

28 September 2010 at 15:37  
Blogger Richard Gadsden said...

It's funny, but I think that homosexuals, who are still physically attacked for openly avowing their sexuality (try walking home from a nightclub hand-in-hand with another man if you don't believe me) are much more likely to lie and claim they are heterosexual than Christians are to lie and claim they are atheist.

28 September 2010 at 15:50  
Blogger Botogol said...

interesting survey.
does answering 'christianity' on the ONS survey make you a 'real' christian?

28 September 2010 at 16:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 0.5 % other could well refer to those that self-identify as 'asexual'. There are people that do: http://www.asexuality.org/home/

Indeed there are those that call for LGBT to become LGBTA.

Also, as the respondents were called on home phones or door-stopped, it is not surprising - especially amongst older LGBT - that they would answrr anything other than str8 to someone they didn't know asking them on phone or face-to-face about their sexual preferences. But, as Stonewall has argued, the more such surveys ask these questions, the higher the LBGT response rate goes up (employers who run annual diversity surveys asking this question have found this)

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28 September 2010 at 17:17  
Anonymous len said...

It seems that there are a lot of Christians who don`t 'do God' (well at least not in public anyway.)The 'silent Majority' might find themselves getting trampled by the 'vocal minority!.
So perhaps Christians should start coming out of the 'closet' and making themselves and the views known.
Our Nation which was founded on Christian principles is being attacked on all quarters Atheist, Secularists, dark spiritual forces,( Being P C here)are all queuing up to fill the void created by apathetic Christians.Perhaps things will have to get a lot worse before we realise what we are losing?

28 September 2010 at 18:38  
Anonymous Voyager said...

What proportion of Christians eat halal meat in the UK ? Does a higher proportion of gays eat halal chicken or halal lamb ?

28 September 2010 at 22:26  
Anonymous Guglielmo Marinaro said...


Before me as I write is a copy of Gay Times for September 2009. It’s the only copy that I have, which will show you how often I buy it.

Along with the handful of adverts from public sector organizations for job vacancies and the like, I see numerous adverts from the private sector. They include estate agents, removal companies, solicitors, tax advisers, accountants, hotels, travel companies, theatres, mortgage advisors, hi-fi companies, clothiers – the list could go on and on. Obviously they must be chasing the income of a tiny minority, or rather that of the wealthy minority within that tiny minority. Presumably they must be advertising although they get little return for their efforts and they keep on doing it because they are afraid of getting a bad rating from organizations like Stonewall and thus losing the minuscule amount of business which their expensive advertisements are at present generating and on which they must already be making a pretty hefty loss.

I’m pretty ignorant about commerce, but one thing I do know: it sure as hell doesn’t work like that.

29 September 2010 at 16:45  
Blogger Ruth Gledhill said...

Most interesting post, Your Grace. I've commented on it myself now, behind our paywall but easily accessible for just a few shillings!


Ruth Gledhill

29 September 2010 at 18:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'I’m pretty ignorant about commerce, but one thing I do know: it sure as hell doesn’t work like that.'

That's right. It does not work like that.

Give it time.

Businessmen are beginning to wake up to the truth that they have been told the lie: one in ten.

As Christians begin to make their boycott of businesses who support the lie: the truth is accounted in the balance sheets of companies' books.

30 September 2010 at 07:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

Why is a distinguished journalist such as Mrs Gledhill touting for readers here? Is there something I don’t know about?

Or as Eastenders would ask: ‘Ere! What’s goin’ on?’

30 September 2010 at 08:57  
Anonymous Flossie said...

Poor Ruth, perhaps she is looking for some reasonable people to challenge some of the deeply unpleasant atheists who used to frequent her blog. I wonder if they still do? Sorry, Ruth, can't afford it!

30 September 2010 at 09:25  
Anonymous len said...

There seem to be a glut of Atheists flocking to the Blogsphere.Probably sent out like some demonic hoard from Dawkin`s Towers under direct instruction from their master.

30 September 2010 at 11:21  
Anonymous Edward Thompson said...

If Richard Dawkins was disappointed, think of Johann Hari's reaction.

1 October 2010 at 06:06  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t know which is really worse, the Atheist who spell god in lower case even though its bad Grammar ( names are capped, and none of the rubbish that it’s not a name, it is. “Believers” don’t cap it because its veneration, but its used as a name. Learn English and stop using bad grammar to advertise your Atheism) or that they think Religion is on the decline because belief in God is.

Folks, Religion and Theism are not the same thing, and given how all the Freethinking Atheists just repeat the same beliefs, its hard for me to take them at their word that there is nothing uniting them aside from lack of belief in God. They are just Humanists. Really they follow an Atheistic Religion and just want to make it dominant but don’t want people to know this is what they are doing as it lets people be critical of their beliefs and assumptions.


1 October 2010 at 10:02  
Blogger Grogipher said...

Using that figure of c1.5% would give a figure of around 1million non-heterosexual people in the UK.

A single website, Gaydar, has over 2.2m users.

There is evidently a flaw somewhere, unless each and every single gay man has subscribed to around 4 profiles each.

1 October 2010 at 12:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So approx 900,000 gay people in the UK. Approx 900,000 regular attendees at C of E services. Ah, how these minorities oppress us !

1 October 2010 at 12:39  

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