Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Ed Balls struggles to grasp the details

Poor Ed.

Rejected overwhelmingly for his party's leadership by his parliamentary colleagues, Labour Party members and his trade union buddies. His head is still with Children, Schools, Families, breast-feeding and nappy-changing, while his heart is still in the Treasury. But his feet are well and truly in his mouth when it comes to Home Affairs.

Yesterday, Home Secretary Theresa May delivered a statement to the House of Commons on the Coalition’s intention to reduce immigration. She said:

"Under Labour, net migration to Britain was close to 200 thousand per year, for most years since 2000. As a result, over Labour’s time in office net migration totalled more than 2.2 million people – more than double the population of Birmingham. We can’t go on like this."

It’s true: we can’t. New Labour not only promoted plurality and ‘multi-culturalism’; they wilfully imposed it upon us through mass immigration to bolster their support base in an attempt to eradicate forever the ‘forces of conservatism’.

To address this, the Home Secretary announced a plan to reduce net immigration substantially.

We cannot, of course, do anything about immigration from other EU member states: the Poles and Romanians will continue to pour in (if that isn’t xenophobic or an incitement to racism), and we can expect a flood of Irish as well as their salaries are cut and unemployment rates soar. But economic migration from outside the EU will be cut from 28,000 to 21,700 per annum.

A modest cut, perhaps. But it’s a start.

In response to this, on the BBC News yesterday evening, Shadow Home Secretary Ed Ball's was awfully confused.

He said: "The problem is 80 per cent of our migration comes from the EU states – they're not affected at all by the cap which was announced today by Theresa May."

But this is quite wrong.

According to the Office of National Statistics (Long-Term International Migration Series), the UK welcomed 528,000 migrants last year, of which 292,000 were non-EU.

If Ed Balls does his maths, he will find that this is 55 per cent of the total; not 80.

But the issue is not migration, but net migration. Last year, inflows and outflows of British and EU citizens largely cancelled each other out and non-EU net migration counted for more than 93 per cent of the total!

Perhaps Ed Balls has not quite got up to speed yet with his new brief.

Or he is eyeing the dog’s dinner that Alan Johnson is making of being Shadow Chancellor.

Or the pig’s ear Ed Miliband is making of being Leader of the Opposition.

Poor Ed.

42 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow ... It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre."

24 November 2010 at 09:19  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Immigration from the EU, you aint seen nothing yet!

All three parties support the accession of Turkey to the EU, with a population of 72 million it would be the second largest in the EU. And which is the most Islam friendly state in the EU, you guessed it!

24 November 2010 at 09:27  
Blogger srizals said...

Thank God, with the self destruct mode of Atheism, may be the EU population can be increased.

24 November 2010 at 09:48  
Anonymous Zach Johnstone said...

Your Grace,

Quite right. Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch has made this precise point and I think you are right to reiterate the illogicality in confusing migration with net migration.

The cut may be a modest one, but it is one which begins to ebb away at the culture in which no consideration is paid to the capacity of the state to accommodate the sheer level of influx.

24 November 2010 at 10:38  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Srizals

I take it you jest? Whilst our “leaders” are currently in favour of Turkey’s accession, when the prospect is nearer (along with the spectre of Islamic immigration) you will see a mass exodus of votes to UKIP and maybe the BNP and then a late change of heart from the three main parties. I expect objections to come from other member states too, France in particular.

24 November 2010 at 10:59  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

The greatest tragedy is that the conservative (the ‘c’ in the lower case) thinker has failed to exploit the immigration debate, in this century, to his advantage.

Post-World War II immigration largely occurred for two reasons. British thinkers thought that London, like ancient Rome, was the seat of empire (which it was) and to be a citizen of empire also meant that you were a citizen of ‘London’. The idea was very much like Paul’s idea of Roman citizenship despite being born in Tarsus.

The second reason was that Britain suffered from a labour shortage. Enoch Powell went to the Caribbean and invited people to fill vacancies in the NHS.

The conservative thinker failed to implement policies that would address widespread discrimination in the 50s - 90s – a failure that the Left addressed driven by the idea of class alliances.

The black people who arrived in this country during the 50s were overwhelmingly practising Christians; they were educated under excellent Victorian standards and spoke English and had fought with Britain against her enemies. But all the social research shows that they were rejected by British society. It is that rejection the Left exploited in the 70s. Despite Asians being to the right of Thatcher and blacks being social conservatives – the Left won them over by addressing race discrimination.

The sons and daughters of those immigrants (now British citizens) are still social conservatives but when they are asked why they don’t vote Conservative they associate Conservatives with indifference to the plight of their parents in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s.

When they are asked what they, now as parents, think about immigration – they reject what Labour has done. Again and again the damage that large scale immigration has done to the social and economic infrastructure of the inner-cities is cited as the primary reason for rejection. In other words they do not see the immigration debate as one of race.

Now a golden opportunity presents itself to the conservative thinker to win over black and ethnic minorities to his political causes – they are after all natural conservatives.

24 November 2010 at 11:11  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

So many of our problems are EU related. Right now we await the fate of our neighbours and friends in Ireland. The following is off topic of the irrelevant Ed Balls, but I would urge all on this blog to watch it.
Apologies Cranmer for hijacking the subject!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ing8xH3Qj-k&feature=player_embedded

24 November 2010 at 11:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Immigrants who elect to come and live in a specific country often bring with them a desire and work ethic that surpasses many of the indigenous residents. Unfortunately when, as is the case in most of he countries of Old Europe there is an over representation from only one or two dominant sources, their impact has a negative impact on the social groups amongst whom they settle.

This has a corrosive effect on the resident community when rather than seeking to integrate and adopt to the social norms of their chosen host country, they bring with them the very different and often incompatible cultural practices and attitudes of the societies they have left behind.

Add to this mix, a religio-political construct such as Islam and the immigrant becomes nothing less than a colonist.

The politicians and bureaucrats who designed the EU as a concept for peaceful co-existence through the abolition of the nation state, have succeeded in screwing up the lives of millions of people for generations to come and should stand trial for treason, undermining democracy and the erosion of the fundamental freedoms of the individual.

24 November 2010 at 11:24  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Mr Graham Davis's excellent points cannot be too strongly stressed:

The admission of Turkey to the EU would open the door legeally to millions of potential immigrants flooding west to look for work.

The Tory party supports Turkey's admission to the EU.

It follows (it must follow) that their current noises about immigration are nothing but spin and wind.

Just as their so-called 'cuts' are spin, cancelled out very substantially by their eagerness to rush to the aid of Ireland in the form of an unsecured and unrepayable loan of at least £5m.

And remember, this is the Tory party, not simply Cameron pretending that he must do what his coalition partners demand. Blair and Campbell could learn something from this bunch.

24 November 2010 at 11:37  
Blogger srizals said...

Graham Davis, you need Muslims as a basis of comparison, without us, you would have been long gone in your quest of sexual gratification and individualism that has limitless self-seeking pleasure, which is also quite destructive. Let modesty seeps back into your society gently, for your women sake. And you too. You don't have to be a Muslim if you don't want to you know.

24 November 2010 at 11:51  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Well expect Ed Balls to choke next March. It was Brown-Blair that opened UK workplaces to EU Accession States AHEAD of the 2011 derogation. Ireland followed. Two basket case economies inflating with speculative banking held down wage costs through immigration. Indeed as Robert Peston reports Ireland's GDP and labour productivity was OVERSTATED by at least 25% because of multinationals invoicing through Ireland but repatriating profits.

In March 2011 Germany, France etc officially open up to the Accession States. Already the German meat trade has replaced Germans with "self-employed" Polish abattoir workers....so imagine the raction when Poles can officially migrate to Germany in March 2011....about the time Merkel's party loses Baden-Wuerttemburg for the first time in 50 years.

An earthquake in developing in Europe which dim blubber-boys like Ed Balls do not comprehend. The scale of the eruption will sweep away dilettantes like this over-privileged and over-opinionated journalist-turned-bovver boy.

They really have no conception of how violent and devastating a repeat of the Thirty Years War could be in Europe and how far the creation of the nation state in 1648 by the Treaty of Westphalia stabilised Western Europe.

If European nations disintegrate into violence the socialist antipathy towards national identity will have recreated Yugoslavia on a continental scale by deconstructing society and identity

24 November 2010 at 11:53  
OpenID doctorhuw said...

I think his actual offence was to quote figures offered by Nick Clegg in the TV debates. They were disputed at the time, but I imagine Balls was a bit busy trying to work out how he had made such an awful mess of BSF and failed to notice that.

Never a smart move to take your opponents' errors made in the heat of the moment as gospel when you should have taken the trouble to check. Alas, it's been one of Balls' worst problems throughout his career - his casualness borne of arrogance.

24 November 2010 at 12:24  
OpenID doctorhuw said...

Ooops - 'borne' should be 'born'.

Anyone want to quote Matthew 7:1 at me?

24 November 2010 at 12:26  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Mr Voyager's voice is worringly logical (@11:53).

Couple his dire, historically-informed predictions with this:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/11/and-then-we-kill-them.html

...and contemplate emigrating, with all your loved ones, to New Zealand.

24 November 2010 at 12:29  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Yes.

You are right. This is terrible. For the first time I have felt over these issues a fear of tomorrow.

But maybe, just maybe we'll turn back to God. You never know He might have aurthorised the collapse of the euro.

24 November 2010 at 12:57  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

I am amazingly grateful to our dear correspondent srizals for his refreshingly honest views, untampered by spin from the official islamist sources which seek to suggest that all is sweetness and light.

It's good to know that he feels that all all white mean seek nothing more than limitless hedonistic self gratification and lust (presumably why they can't be allowed to look upon any innocent muslim Ladies) and that (no, he didn't say this, but there's a guy by the name of Ali who writes regular letters published in the London Metro which says so ever other week) that all western Ladies are sex sluts.

A slight sweeping generalization, possibly, but there you have it. The islamic man on the street's view of how the UK is being saved from itself by the counterculture of the Islamic supremicists.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

If more folks like our good friend would speak openly like this, then we, the indigenous white population whose country won't at the last count, belong to use after the year 2066, might have our eyes opened instead of pretending that it's not happening.

Thank you, good sir, I appreciate you here. Please continue your postings and show us your further thoughts.

24 November 2010 at 13:34  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

srizals said...

Graham Davis, you need Muslims as a basis of comparison, without us, you would have been long gone in your quest of sexual gratification and individualism that has limitless self-seeking pleasure

Your ignorance knows no bounds and your presumption is breathtaking. Far from “limitless pleasure seeking” I take life and my responsibilities as parent, husband and citizen very seriously. What I don’t need is a lecture from a believer in probably the most retarded religions ever invented by man, one that is full of sexual inadequacy and repression, misogyny and homophobia. So as we say over here, “put that in your pipe and smoke it”!

24 November 2010 at 13:37  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

@srizals

"You don;t have to be a muslim if you don't want to"?

forgive me, but I was rather under the impression that you do...that is, once you are one.

could you kindly confirm the penalty for apostascy, please? Is it beheading, or stoning, I can;t recall?

You are allowed to renounce other faiths, however I didn;t think that you were allowed to stay alive after you renownced Islam.

Please feel free to update me and correct me here

Could you, for the record, tell us that any muslim will be told, "farewell, my son/daughter, enjoy a long and happy life in the Christian church" if he/she decided that the Lord Jesus Christ was really for him/her.

24 November 2010 at 13:39  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Professor David Coleman of Oxford University has predicted that the indigenous British will become a minority in Britain around 2066. It is also forecast that the population of Europe will be 20 per cent Muslim by 2050, even without Turkey joining the EU.

With Muslim birth rates continuing to outstrip all others, it is undeniable that Britain and Europe’s Western era is drawing to a close, to be replaced by a Caliphate. Is our civilization worth fighting for, or will we continue to preen ourselves on being anti-racist and bequeath to our children and grandchildren the ungodly mess we have created?

24 November 2010 at 14:24  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Professor David Coleman of Oxford University has predicted that the indigenous British will become a minority in Britain around 2066. It is also forecast that the population of Europe will be 20 per cent Muslim by 2050, even without Turkey joining the EU.

With Muslim birth rates outstripping all others, Britain and Europe’s Western era is drawing to a close, to be replaced by a Caliphate. Is our civilization worth fighting for, or will we continue to preen ourselves on being anti-racist and bequeath to our children and grandchildren the ungodly mess we have created?

24 November 2010 at 14:31  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

JR said

Is our civilization worth fighting for, or will we continue to preen ourselves on being anti-racist and bequeath to our children and grandchildren the ungodly mess we have created?

YES

24 November 2010 at 14:54  
Blogger srizals said...

Glad I caught your attention Old Grumpy, about looking at beautiful girls, the first look doesn't count, the second with lust, would of course considered as a sin, as any sins, we have to accompany them with good deeds, in order to purge them and of course, the humility before God.

It seems sweeping generalization is the trend of the day, Muslims are all crazy fanatics trying to dominate all the Western world and upholding Sharia to turn all human beings into zombies, hardly, I can't resist the temptation of knowing how would the others like the idea. I guess nobody likes to be overgeneralized as the Muslims do.

About the punishment of apostasy according to Islam, well, there is no worldly punishments.

http://apostasyandislam.blogspot.com/

http://theses.gla.ac.uk/991/01/2002lamartiphd.pdf

“Can a person who is Muslim choose a religion other than Islam?” When Egypt’s grand mufti, Ali Gomaa, pondered that dilemma in an article published last year, many of his co-religionists were shocked that the question could even be asked.

And they were even more scandalized by his conclusion. The answer, he wrote, was yes, they can, in the light of three verses in the Koran: first, ”unto you your religion, and unto me my religion” second, “whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, let him disbelieve;” and, most famously,” There is no compulsion in religion.”
http://www.tandemproject.com/issue_statements/statements/2010/083110_issue.htm

[2:255]
Allah: There is no god but He, the Living, the All-Sustaining. Neither dozing overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on the earth. Who can intercede with Him without His permission? He knows what is before them and what is behind them; while they encompass nothing of His knowledge, except what He wills. His Kursiyy (Chair) extends to the Heavens and to the Earth, and it does not weary Him to look after them. He is the All-High, the Supreme.

[2:256]
There is no compulsion in Faith. The correct way has become distinct from the erroneous. Now, whoever rejects the Tāghūt (the Rebel, the Satan) and believes in Allah has a firm grasp on the strongest ring that never breaks. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

[2:257]
Allah is the Protector of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into the light. As for those who disbelieve, their friends are the Rebels. They bring them out from the light into the depths of darkness. Those are people of the Fire. There they will remain forever.

24 November 2010 at 15:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His head is still with Children, Schools, Families, breast-feeding and nappy-changing, while his heart is still in the Treasury. But his feet are well and truly in his mouth when it comes to Home Affairs.

Nice one Cranny - chortle!

24 November 2010 at 15:21  
Blogger srizals said...

Graham Davis, the HIV virus, herpes and et cetera don't agree with you. So how? How would you convinced them about natural selection then?

24 November 2010 at 15:28  
Blogger srizals said...

and I don't smoke.

24 November 2010 at 15:41  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Srizals I don’t understand your comment.

HIV and herpes along with you and I are all examples of natural selection.

24 November 2010 at 16:17  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

@srizals

Grateful thanks for your teachings on apostasy, appreciated.

So that's what the Quoran says, at least. Now, what's the situation on the ground? Is an apostate allowed to walk away from the mosque after announcing that he's become a friend of Jesus (or Sikh, or whatever....) or does he get summarily excuted as an infidel?

I only ask? It may be different in islamic countries as to the UK, but we do all hear the stories from time to time as to family members disappearing....

thanks

24 November 2010 at 17:38  
Anonymous Oswin said...

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24 November 2010 at 19:21  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Oswin,

References to using Muslims for target practice is uncalled for. Please moderate your tones and challenge your prejudice.

24 November 2010 at 19:27  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Graham Davis @ 13.37

Do you allow yourself to be congratulated by the likes of me?

Well said Sir, Bravo!

24 November 2010 at 19:28  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Your Grace, my apologies, I shall not refer to ''target practice'' again. However, may I repeat the bit about szrizals speaking 'damnable and inane dross'?

24 November 2010 at 19:33  
Blogger srizals said...

My God Graham Davis, you're equating me with mere viruses that dwell in the most private part of the human body with such magnitude of pain and agony, for an extended period of time? Gross!

Oswin, this is the second time you have shown your Christian view point that closely appreciative of exterminating the Muslims for being Muslims!

I said "your" Christian view. Hope the other good Christians won't be offended. I'm calling you out Oswin. I'm going for the kill. No more Mr. Nice guy. Choose a topic and start your accusations. Let's duel to the death! Er, in writing of course, don't get jumpy now.

Old Grumpy, such a horror painting of Islam and Muslims you have there. Secretly disappeared when showing the tendency to the cross? Are you talking about Muslim converts in Malaysia? Can you give the links or sources that you have on it to help my understanding. If I can't understand it, how could I give my view point on it? In Malaysia, the non Muslims that show tendency towards the right way to God would be threatened in such a manner, disappeared and there were occasion of murder, of the whole family. And it happened in a Muslim nation, can you believe that? Maybe the culprits were the likes of Oswin. Can't hardly blame them. Their reasoning I mean.

Has anyone seen Len?

24 November 2010 at 23:44  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Aw shucks srizals, for a moment there I thought you really meant it; I got quite excited at the prospect. Life is just one long disappointment ...

25 November 2010 at 02:02  
Blogger srizals said...

Well, get use to it Oswin. Judging from your current behaviour, you're going to be stuck in it for a long, long time. Now I'm worried, where is Len. We have some unfinished business to attend to.

Oswin, is this the way you accept a challenge in your 'civilisation'?

Should I go first?

25 November 2010 at 11:48  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Yes go, and don't come back, there's a good fellow...

25 November 2010 at 18:35  
Blogger srizals said...

Hmm. I knew it. I shouldn't have use the word "go".

Old Grumpy, have you found the links?

25 November 2010 at 18:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"blather blather blather...you need Muslims as a basis of comparison, without us, you would have been long gone in your quest of sexual gratification and individualism that has limitless self-seeking pleasure, which is also quite destructive."

Except that recent events in Derby suggest the obverse.

25 November 2010 at 20:35  
Blogger srizals said...

Do you mean this one Mr. Anon?

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Derby-Connecticut.html

How far recent? blather blather blather.

25 November 2010 at 21:23  
Blogger srizals said...

This one maybe,

Derby?

Please be specific Mr. Anon.

25 November 2010 at 21:41  
Anonymous NotfriendsofHerpes said...

srizals, it means the bad nonpracticing Muslims are the representative of the whole Muslims and Islam, while the gay priests of the church are the representative of whatever is holy and close to god, get it? Who reads the bible anyway? You?

25 November 2010 at 22:21  
Anonymous GettingConfused said...

I can't help it,


Unique West

Does this mean anything? Is this sort of thing happening in Muslim countries? Is it just the creme of the pudding?

25 November 2010 at 22:27  
Anonymous Pathetic said...

Have any new toilet humours ladies and gentlemen?

Toilet Humours

Shape up or lose out. That's the way I see it.

25 November 2010 at 22:49  

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