Sunday, November 28, 2010

Eric Pickles saves Christmas

It is not clear whether the Communities Secretary is intent on saving Christmas from ‘politically correct Grinches’ who seek to eradicate the festival that marks the birth of Christ, or from the annual Daily Mail hype which seeks to persuade us that this is so.

But the BBC, Sun, Daily Express and Daily Star are unanimous in their appreciation of Father Pickles and relieved that the ‘war on Christmas’ is over.

Out, apparently, are ‘Winterval’, ‘Winter Festival’, ‘Winter lights’, ‘Celebrity lights’, ‘Luminous’, ‘Eid/Diwali/Christmas lights’, ‘multi-faith holiday’, school bans on nativity plays and shopping centres’ clamping down on carol singers.

In are Christmas lights, Christmas trees, carol singers and school nativity plays in abundance.

"We should actively celebrate the Christian basis of Christmas,” Mr Pickles says, “And not allow politically correct Grinches to marginalise Christianity and the importance of the birth of Christ.”

The essential message from the Communities Secretary is for ‘councils to stop worrying about offending people and celebrate a Christian Christmas’ : ie, let Christmas be Christmas.

His Grace is loath to play the Grinch, but he would rather hear the Prime Minister tell every Government department to stop worrying about offending minority groups whose beliefs are challenged by Christian orthodoxy or agendas are hindered by the application of the Christian conscience: ie, let Christians be Christians.

There is no point saving Christmas while the Church is being systematically undermined and coerced, and its orthodoxy gradually outlawed.


Anonymous Voyager said...

Go and visit the tawdry Santa Market in Manchester. Its sterility is enhanced by the complete absence of a Crib Scene or carol singers or any sentiment of Christian Festivities.

It is a drab, overpriced, market selling cheeses and Chinese paraphenalia masquerading as German with more emphasis on selling overpriced beer and pork baps than anything to do with true Christmas.

It might as well be a line-up of hot-dog stands with a Saturday market thrown in.

28 November 2010 at 11:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go and visit the tawdry Santa Market in Manchester ... errm No Thanks!

28 November 2010 at 12:17  
Anonymous opsimath said...

I agree with you, Mr Cranmer, that much more needs to be done than this, welcome as it is.

Perhaps it is worth remembering that 'A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step', or even 'Those who are not against us are for us'.

Pax vobiscum.

28 November 2010 at 12:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Your word is true..Pickles speaking to the mass majority nice words but refusing as a Government to allow Christians to be Christians.


28 November 2010 at 12:50  
Anonymous graham Wood said...

Agree. It is better to have a government which is broadly tolerant of the Christian minority in the UK than the oppressive policy of the last lot.
But let us not be deceived - Christians do not need the fickle patronage of the State at any point.

Cranmer says:
"There is no point saving Christmas" ...

Point taken. ButIf our 'celebration' of Christmas runs along the lines of of the grossly commercial event we witness ad nauseam every year - such as expressed in Cliff Richard's nauseating
'Little Town' for Christmas No. 1' approach, and the rest of the tinsel, then we have missed the vital message of the New Testament.
Its interesting that it was not the Incarnation, important and basic as the truth remains, that was the centre of the NT message, but rather the death and resurrection of Christ.
Thus Paul:
"For what I received I passed on to you as of FIRST IMPORTANCE: that Christ died for our sins.... that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day...
1 Cor.15:3-6.
Christmas in the UK is entirely out of sync with that emphasis.

28 November 2010 at 12:56  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

YG It matters not what central government says regarding Christmas protocol as the local councils will carry on regardless just as regional police forces have ignored the home secretarys advice on scrapping target led policing.

28 November 2010 at 12:58  
Blogger AncientBriton said...

Well said Mr Pickles; about time too. Could this be the start of something big to stop the rot in the UK?
We are just into Advent I know but, HAPPY CHRISTMAS Mr Pickles!

28 November 2010 at 13:10  
Anonymous Bede said...

"councils [should] stop worrying about offending people and celebrate a Christian Christmas."

As far as I know, minority faiths have no wish to stop Christian festivals (they are usually eager to get their children into Church schools).

The people who want to stop Christian festivals are secularists in local and central government, who cite 'minority faiths' as an excuse.

28 November 2010 at 13:52  
Anonymous len said...

Well Christmas is just about fairy lights, eating, giving presents, getting drunk,shops making a killing,holidays,Christmas trees, decorations,getting into debt, isn`t it?.

Well keep the celebrations going good for trade, but don`t whatever you do mention the real reason behind Christ- mas, celebrating the arrival into this World of the Saviour- Jesus Christ.

28 November 2010 at 13:52  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Len Said

and all the believers said Amen.


28 November 2010 at 14:26  
Blogger oldmaid said...

Agreed YG.

One wonders if all the coalition intend to is 'tinker' around the edges whilst keeping all these ridiculous PC constraints in place, but pretending otherwise as it certainly seems the case with everything they're touched upon to date.

I confess I hate them as much as the last mob of traitors.

28 November 2010 at 14:39  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

What Graham Wood said. Only more so.

28 November 2010 at 14:56  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

And here's one in the eye for all those miserable devils in the council offices..

28 November 2010 at 15:04  
Anonymous Philip said...

Excellent post, YG.

I agree both with Eric Pickles, who stars yet again, a star shining as a true British conservative in a situation of PC darkness! He should be given credit!

But I agree too that it would be good to hear the PM "tell every Government department to stop worrying about offending minority groups whose beliefs are challenged by Christian orthodoxy or agendas are hindered by the application of the Christian conscience: ie, let Christians be Christians."

But of course this is unlikely to happen. On evidence I see, Mr Cameron is certainly not committed to allowing Christian orthodoxy to override other agendas. Rather the opposite. I understand that a Conservative councillor in Bristol has been suspended for daring to question Stonewall's promotion of homosexuality to schoolchildren. This follows the Scottish Parliamentary candidate, Philip Lardner (not me), being sacked "within minutes" for making perfectly moderate and reasonable comments making the same point.

28 November 2010 at 15:15  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Perhaps DC calculates it'll weight the scales for measuring his pagan take on 'Happiness'?

Len indicates the Christian contrast, in which the entire Season extends from Advent to Easter, and beyond to the Resurrection. The messages of Redemption and Salvation inhere in the Incarnation that made them possible.

Somewhere in the middle lies another message, of course --- something to do with money-changers setting themselves up in Temples, was it?

28 November 2010 at 18:32  
Anonymous Martin Sewell said...

Our Church is attracting hundreds of children to an
" Experience Christmas" modelled on a simple but effective
pattern of presentations pioneered by Gloucester Cathedral.

This shows that when we are faithful to our mission to proclaim the good news - it works.

Christians let themselves down by communal lack of self confidence.

By all means, criticise the secular authorities but let us not use this as an excuse for not playing our proper part.

28 November 2010 at 19:44  
Anonymous John Knox said...

Wel spoken your Grace,

The Hegelian game gain. Let them sing carols while we destroy the remnants of Christian common law. Christians will settle for less and for the largely irrelevant if continued to be pushed long enough. Amazing that this happens in a country where the vast majority of the public identifies with Christianity.

As long as secularism has government, industry, business and education, the plebs are allowed to celebrate with bread and games.
While secularism now realises its self-interest: that Christmas is a far greater moneymaker than some multifaith celebration and can be so commercialised that it twards all the purposes of the newborn King anyway...

28 November 2010 at 20:39  
Anonymous not a machine said...

I think Eric Pickles has shone a little light onto the mess some of the more rabid councils have got themselves into , I dont know if anyone was thinking about Ian Austin when thinking of grinches , but surely his statement about downgrading christmas must put him up there with lookelikey contenders.
If other mps see the error of the nulab terror in not realising the true value of christianity so much the better .I dont think "overlooked" quite covers the situation , but he is a politician and I am led to believe it is a pragmatic trade/profession .It may be a little late to heal the spiritual deficet and the church has some way to go itself .None the less a welcome bell from a man who who has shown concern for communties that have endured the townhall stasi editors of culture and its waste.

28 November 2010 at 22:07  
Anonymous Flossie said...

Philip @ 15.15 (and YG) - Watch this video on the way Councillor Windows was treated for daring to mildly question the (homo)sexualisation of schoolchildren. I think you will be shocked.

(starts at 2hrs 20:56)

For this he was suspended. This of course is just one instance.

28 November 2010 at 22:48  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Eric Pickles' comments have caused a singularly pro-Christmas, pro-Christian buzz across the net. He has occasioned a veritable land-slide of pro-British, pro-Christian sentiment that not only warms the heart but stiffens the sinews too!

It is this sort of reaction, that will save the Church, regardless of the prating, bloodless fools within it!

28 November 2010 at 23:06  
Anonymous Papal Bill said...

Whenever these "council bans Christmas so as not offend other faiths" stories emerges (I haven't heard one so far this year) they never bother to quote, say, a Hindu, Muslim or Jew who claims to be offended by, for instance, a crib in the shopping centre.
Why is this? I suspect a lack of offendees.
You begin to wonder if the whole thing is a ruse to stir up anti-Moslem feelings.
Anyway, I'm all for encouraging carol services, nativity plays and even Christingle events.
Vale qum (sp?) salem!

29 November 2010 at 01:02  
Blogger Bryan D said...

Best headline of all time!

29 November 2010 at 01:47  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Wishing you all a cool Yule!

29 November 2010 at 02:00  
Anonymous Oswin said...

I hope it won't be cooler than it already is, it's minus five here in Northumberland, and dropping!

29 November 2010 at 03:18  
Blogger Manfarang said...

That's global warming for you!

29 November 2010 at 03:49  
Anonymous Flossie said...

While we should be grateful for small mercies, I would prefer Mr Pickles to tackle the indoctrination of the nation's children. As well as suspending councillors who attempt to protect them (see my previous post) there is the new White Paper proudly announcing that the coalition is working alongside Stonewall (yes, Stonewall) on sex education.

This ties up with the video link in my previous post, because it is Sir Ian McKellen who Councillor Windows is talking about.

Every parent should be shown this video. They should know that there is no escape, and that no child will be left unbrainwashed.

29 November 2010 at 06:18  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

We do not need to ask permission to celebrate our national religious festivals,Christianity resides in the hearts of the ordinary people,it is a gift from the universe to help us grow,but if you allow the rabid communists to drive it from our hearts,we are all done for,and the reason that it is mostly inspired by local councils is that at thier very heart they have been infiltrated by common purpose which has an agenda that only serves marxism,not the people,nor the culture or our society,it is total control of the individual,and ignore thier attempts at disruption we must,councils are not in being to make laws for us,infrastructure and amenities are thier province,anything else,just tell them to xxxx xxx.

29 November 2010 at 07:57  
Anonymous greg tingey said...

Assuming Yeshua ben Joseph of Nazareth was a real person, we still have absolutely no idea when he was actually born (or even which year, though some good guesses have been made)
The fundies don't celebrate xmas, nor did that well-kown christian and bastard O. Cromwell.
What's the fuss about?
Xtianity took over the pagan midwinter featival, re-labelled it "christmas", and made sure it wasn't on true mid-winters day, nor Jupiter Sol redevivus (Dec. 26th)

29 November 2010 at 12:53  
Anonymous berserker-nkl said...

Eric Pickles our new Saviour - God bless! And Tiny Dave as well!

There might be a tiny point in clamping down on 'Winterval' and 'Multi-faith Holiday' to quote two of the ugly substitutes for Christian values if we were a truly multi-ethnic society.

But we are not! The proportion of ethnic groups which are not indigenous white Christians are about 10% (although the minority ethnic groups birthrate goes up every decade by about 50%) so it is not a static figure.

But everyone parrots the same tale: call it multi-culturism or whatever that we are this wonderful multi-etnic society and should celebrate this diversity. Bahhhhhhh! Now there may be a case to be made out in some cities and some enclaves like Brent and East London but is - say Somerset multi-ethnic?

So why should we worry so much about offending the minorities?

Guardian readers: Why are you so illogical?

Why do you hate the white majority so much? It did after all produce your faux liberal rag!

29 November 2010 at 14:36  
Anonymous Rev Dominic said...

Now, some may disagree with me, but I think the word "Christmas" doesn't help. The Roman Catholic connotations and meaning help to turn this season into a far more worldly matter than it should be. Why not stick with the "Nativity of our Lord" as the Prayer Book so helpfully puts it; or if you don't like that, how about, the "Birthday of Christ"; but let's not be 'common'...

3 December 2010 at 20:18  

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