Friday, December 24, 2010

The BBC responds...

His Grace is delighted to say that he has received a very prompt response from the BBC to his complaint concerning the outrageous remarks made by David Baddiel and Alan Davies on The Freedom Association and the late great Norris McWhirter CBE. It reads:
Dear Dr Cranmer

Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.

On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.

The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

BBC Audience Services
It was very kind of them to take the trouble. His Grace is indebted to some of his communicants who also wrote to the BBC about this matter. They, too, have received a response:
Dear Mr A-D

Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.

On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.

The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

BBC Audience Services
And another:
Dear Mr N

Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.

On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.

The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

BBC Audience Services
In their emails to His Grace, these communicants ask:

Mr A-D: 'I don't know what else to do at this point, except sigh at the entrenched bias in the BBC. What does a "personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances" even mean? Baddiel is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts.'

Mr N: 'I'm not surprised. Appalled, but not surprised.'

If the BBC thinks it can get away with simply cutting and pasting the same crass response to those who have complained on this matter, they show themselves to be quite contemptible in their attitide to those who fund the corporation. A monkey can cut 'n' paste; and this response is so lacking in adequate content that a monkey could have written it. What they are essentially saying is that any BBC employee or interviewee can give a 'personal description' of 'political allegiances' irrespective of the facts, and they may do so with impunity.

This being the case, why did the BBC apologise to the Muslim Council of Britain and pay them £30,000 of taxpayers' money in compensation for remarks made by Charles Moore on Question Time? Why was Mr Moore not permitted to articulate a 'personal description' of the behaviour of the MCB? Why does the BBC readily acknowledge 'injury to feelings' when it comes to some minority groups or organisations of 'the Left', but is evidently of the view that the family and friends of Norris McWhirter and members of The Freedom Association do not live with bread like them; do not feel want, taste grief, or need friends.

Truthfully, His Grace finds it difficult to understand why The Freedom Association has not received an immediate apology and £30,000 in compensation.

The is the British Broadcasting Corporation; a national institution with a Royal Charter. Surely one does not have to conspire in terrorism against the state; or treason against Her Majesty's Armed Forces; or threaten physical violence or criminal damage, in order to obtain justice from its hallowed chambers.

38 Comments:

Blogger The Fact Compiler said...

Baddiel is a smug unfunny left wing ar$e.

End of.

That is also my personal description of Baddiel's political allegiances.

24 December 2010 at 10:27  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And let me remind your Grace that this bias has absolutely nothing to do with the Rupert Murdoch take over (he's so "right wing") of more or less the rest of the meeja.
No wonder Vince is so worked up!

24 December 2010 at 10:27  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Your Grace

'This being the case, why did the BBC apologise to the Muslim Council of Britain and pay them £30,000 of taxpayers' money in compensation for remarks made by Charles Moore on Question Time? Why was Mr Moore not permitted to articulate a 'personal description' of the behaviour of the MCB?'

As always, the fear of IT being the victim of terrorist atrocities, but the rights of others to be 'fairly' represented on their programmes is none of their concern, particularly if it be NON MUSLIM.

It's not really the non muslim thing to strap explosives to ourselves, just because somebody 'offends us', is it, to get our own way.

The BBC shows what a hypocritical, biased and MOST COWARDLY institution it really is.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

24 December 2010 at 11:02  
Anonymous Jones said...

Below is a copy of my complaint to the BBC below which is a copy and paste of the reply I received from the BBC.


jones said...

Complaint sent.



'Whilst understanding the ideological slant within the BBC could I please be made to understand the basis of Baddiels comments on the probity of Mr Mc Whirter with reference to an assumption that he was a 'nazi/blackshirt etc etc ad-nauseum....(and presumably, therefore, a racist god forbid etc ad-nauseum.)

It could legitimately be said that one mans' nazi is another mans' hero( to paraphrase) after all wasn't good old 'uncle Joe' Stalin just such a nice chappie (well, not a nazi of course but just as murderous) according to the BBC during the Second World War in the fight against Hitler?. Time's Man of the Year 1942 indeed to prove it.

As was Hitler the Time's Man of the Year for 1938 but move along, nothing to see here.

I say the above in full recognition of the absolutely essential role 'uncle' Joe played in the defeat of the very ideology that Baddiel is suggesting Norris McWhirter was allied to.

This is a scurrilous attack on a fine man and is grossly offensive in it's nature.

How much did the Baddiel 'earn' from this outrage?'

19 December 2010 08:47



BBC response.


Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 4:02 AM
Subject: Complaint Response CAS-482071-Q8VMSP


Dear Dr Jones

Thank you for contacting us regarding remarks made by David Baddiel about Norris McWhirter and the Freedom Association on The Alan Davies Show on BBC Radio 5 Live broadcast on Saturday 18 December.

On the show David Baddiel was discussing a television film he has recently made entitled 'The Norris McWhirter Chronicles'. The film centres around a speech that Mr McWhirter made at David Baddiel's school in the 1970s. The young Baddiel had expected a talk about the then popular TV programme 'Record Breakers' and was disappointed that Mr McWhirter's speech was of a political nature. The comments made by David Baddiel were quite clearly his personal description of Mr McWhirter's political allegiances.

The Alan Davies Show is a live, light hearted, entertainment programme and in this context we are satisfied that no broadcasting guidelines were broken.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards

BBC Audience Services


Hmm........Sincere apologies for the repetition Your Grace but could it not be conceded that there is a certain simplistic elegance of one size fitting all?.

24 December 2010 at 11:05  
Blogger Caedmon's Cat said...

The BBC is a propaganda machine, subsidised by the mandatory license fee - extorted from the public - in order that it can both propagate left-wing ideology (not in keeping with the opinions of most license payers) and also to stealthily present values and political objectives abhorrent to decent people as normal and acceptable.
Although it must be said that it produces some excellent programmes, its political bias is a vile travesty of what a broadcaster should represent. I loathe and detest it for that reason, and I would cheerfully see it dismantled. Now.

24 December 2010 at 11:07  
Anonymous Jones said...

As an aside I find myself wondering if I would be absolved of blame for calling someone a nazi by stating that it was merely a 'light-hearted comment'?.

One becomes easily confused in the current ideological climate, warm as it is.

I'm a man of limited cognitions so would be eternally grateful for guidance.

24 December 2010 at 11:10  
Anonymous bluedog said...

So what is the answer, Your Grace? Privatise the Beeb? The son of a naturalised American of Australian origin with a Chinese wife recently proposed something of the sort. In fact it is a very sound idea, but a political non-starter.

24 December 2010 at 11:36  
Blogger Simon Harley said...

I hate to correct Your Grace, but I believe the B.B.C. is still the British Broadcasting Corporation, and not British Broadcasting Company.

24 December 2010 at 11:55  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr Simon Harley,

Of course.

His Grace knew that.

He has corrected (though he referred to 'Corporation' earlier.

A little rushed.

Too much mulled wine.

Merry Christmas.

24 December 2010 at 12:05  
Anonymous Voyager said...

THE BBC is a State Media Corporation nationalised by the Conservatives in 1926 to give Winston Churchill a platform during the General Strike and to stop GE of the US having any influence. Regional outlets were closed down and that private stations centralised as a State Corporation using the device of Royal Charter to circumvent Companies Acts and accountability to shareholders. It was thus like The East India Company which at least was created before the Companies Acts.

The BBC thinks it is The Church of England save that it still gets a "Church" Tax to fund its preaching. It is the only institution in the land that has not undergone "reform" or "modernisation" and still uses Criminal Law to extract its funding.

It is the kind of institution of which Vladimir Putin could be proud.

The responses are those of an inert bureaucracy fending off dissidents. The BBC is what makes Britain truly a Soviet Union. Remarkably Britain now spends a smaller proportion of GDP on Universities than Brazil but has a taxpayer funded Media outlet raking in £3.7 bn a year

24 December 2010 at 12:27  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

I hope you will all be complaining to the BBC for allowing the Pope to insult us further by appearing on Thought for the Day. Disgraceful!

24 December 2010 at 12:46  
Anonymous greg tingey said...

Never mind that.
There's also the disgraceful grovelling to the vile Ratzinger....

As the BBC was accused of being a “propaganda" arm of the vatican.

Today, we had “thought for the day” from Ratzinger, followed by interviews with some catholic (arch)bishop and Cristina Odone.
What struck me most about these, apart of course, from the usual “free pass” given to a religious, as opposed to a political spokesbeing, was:

The amazing level of completely blind self-delusion displayed by both the official churchman, and Odone.
What planet were they on?
Certainly not this one.


The word liar would be appropriate – except – they really sincerely believed the irrational rubbish that they were spouting. The complete disconnect from reality was very disturbing. Almost as disturbing as listening to muslim fanatics, in fact.


Wasn’t that a surprise, or not?

24 December 2010 at 13:15  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

Dan Hannan got the same response: http://tinyurl.com/39qr9ve

(By the way, it's not 'cut and paste'; it's 'copy and paste'.)

I would be in favour of the BBC having complete freedom to say whatever it wants about anyone (as long as it is not defamatory), except for the fact that it uses my money to do so. I felt the same about 'Jerry Springer: the Opera'.

It is the extortion of licence-payers' money to feed their leftist addictions that should get up our noses.

So the real issue here is the compulsory licence fee, which is in effect a tax.

And whilst I am happy that the licence fee gives me Radio 3, the question that keeps coming back is, 'Why should I expect other people to be forced pay for my entertainment?'

Compliments of the season to you all. Drink responsibly.

24 December 2010 at 13:18  
Anonymous Dick the Prick said...

Your Grace

As the Fact Compiler has correctly pointed out Baddiel was incredibly lucky to bump into Rob Newman & Hugh Dennis in the Mary Whitehouse Experience. Messrs Punt and Baddiel were always carried along, happy to believe in their own ability yet lacking anything approachin talent. Both Baddiel and Punt still happily draw wages from the corporation yet fail to 'produce the goods'. All too familiar a story; Brigstock, Hardy, Jupitus, Howard - the list goes on.

Happy Christmas to everyone and a jolly new year.

DtP

24 December 2010 at 13:24  
Anonymous JayBee said...

Complaining about BBC bias is a tortuous process.
Ofcom takes complaints about BBC issues except impartiality, inaccuracy and some commercial issues which remain the responsibility of the BBC Trust.
You can only appeal to the Trust if you have been through the full complaints process of the BBC.
The BBC Trustees are appointed by the Queen on “advice” from ministers.
So the BBC is the mouthpiece of state ideology:
political correctness, gay rights, multiculturalism, europhilia, climate change etc, etc. (And thou shalt keep all these statutes; you, your children, and your children’s children and not deviate from them either to the Right or to the Left.)
Any complaints about the Beeb that stray outside the religio-political spectrum tolerated by the ConDems on the one hand and NuLab on the other are beyond the pale. They will either be dismissed, ignored, villified or squashed.
Unless, that is, the dissidents have some real clout. So until The Freedom Association can muster at least 10,000 of their fellow believers and besiege the Corporation they will get no apology or recompense without litigation.

Perhaps it would take – how shall I put it - a very, very right-wing, kind of sub-BNP, slightly posher version of the BNP organisation to provide the final solution to BBC bias.

24 December 2010 at 13:41  
Blogger Mr Eman said...

I quite enjoy watching the BBC and have no objections to paying a license fee.

Personally, I thought His Holiness', Pope Benedict XVI, address was pertinent and uplifting. I also found the BBC's recent programme depicting the Nativity moving. (I notice our Jewish brothers are complaining this presented Jews in a poor light!!!)

The BBC is preferable to Sky TV and their extortionate rates. This year no Test Match coverage - next year? Why don't people boycott this obscenity on our air waves?

Happy Christ-Mass to one and all and thank you Pope Julius I, in AD350, for giving us a date to come together to celebrate Christ's birth. Overlain over pagan festivals admittedly, a shrewd move.

24 December 2010 at 14:18  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

Jaybee

You seem to have jumped to the assumption that, 'advice' from ministers, means The BBC is the mouthpiece of state ideology. This without defining what State Ideology actually is in practice.

I would personally describe this as a rather nasty combination of National Socialism, and Internationalist Communism, possibly better described as World Corporatism. You may disagree, if so, then what would you prefer to call it? May be we could just call it, business as usual.

PC, gay rights etc, are not policies designed by any particular political party, however much it may seem that they are. They are the rather dodgy products to say the least, of Royal institutes such as The RIIA, The MOD, and many others, including sister organizations such as The CFR.

Which explains why we now have a Conservative government, not of course a conservative one, and absolutely none of these policies are about to change one single little bit. Indeed far from being reversed or stopped, they are going to be reinforced without any doubt whatsoever.

The BBC does not work for the British government, and therefore never for the interests of The British people under any possible circumstances.

The BBC works for The Queen of England, but very usually only as The BBC's figure head. More importantly the BBC works for the people who set the BBC up in the first place. Which is her almost infinitely rich and powerful bank managers, and their corporate multi-national, industrial and banking interests. Who intern work for the entire British, Chinese, American, Islamic, Papal, and Zionist establishment, possibly better known as The Entire Ruling Elite Class of Planet Earth.

Good job it you can get it, no?

These are THE FACTS of the matter, you make of them what you will. For I am getting rather bored doing all the real thinking around here.

As for the BNP running The BBC, if it ever got into power.

Well the first thing is, that it is highly improbable that The BNP would ever achieve such a thing, however not impossible for the reasons stated below.

Second thing, if it did, or anything like it ever did, it would only have done so because the Queen and The Popes bank managers wanted it to. Which of course would put us right back where we started, or indeed much further back to something rather resembling 1930's Germany.

You may believe this would be a good thing, many others may care to disagree.

24 December 2010 at 14:40  
Anonymous berserker-nkl said...

The Kingdom of Lefty Luvviedum reigns supreme.

Remember that the actor's union, Equity was the last unionised closed shop. You still have to prove professional work however. I remember the battles betwen Marius Goring (Founder member) and the lefty mafia of the Redgraves' which was a regular entertainment in the 50's and 60's.

So what DB of Muzzy Hill said was light-hearted eg. trying to destroy a reputation?

So what DB said was entertainment? By that logic, if it had been a so called serious programme the Beeb would not have allowed it.

24 December 2010 at 14:57  
Anonymous len said...

There is a definite agenda by a small group of people to change Society to make it come into accord with their own personal tastes and desires.
These people are in positions of power and authority which makes it relatively easy for them to bring about these changes.
Satan is not called' the Prince of the Power of the Air(waves) for nothing!.

24 December 2010 at 16:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His Grace may also like to know that I complained to the BBC, and received exactly the same e-mail in response.

I mainly complained about the remark from Davies about brownshirts, but they haven't even bothered to address this issue.

But then again, did I really expect otherwise?

24 December 2010 at 16:40  
Blogger Mr Eman said...

Ien

The 'Illuminati' perchance? :o)

24 December 2010 at 16:54  
Anonymous JayBee said...

Alas Shrugged @14.40

I see State Ideology in terms of values rather than policies hence my reference to Political Correctness etc.

State Ideology = A set of evolving values driven by the political class and drip fed into the minds of the people via state manipulated media so that the “national consciousness” is saturated with them and reflects them, ensuring (a) that the political class are re-elected in perpetuity because enough people acquiesce to these values, and (b) that deviations from ideological norms are punished as thought-crimes not only by the State but also by Society.

Thought-crime = anything that breaches Political Correctness.
Eg:-
Criticism of gay sex = Homophobia
Objection to Islamification = Islamophobia
Patriotism = Europhobia
Questioning Global Warming= Climate Change Denial
Believing the Bible=Bigotry

24 December 2010 at 16:58  
Anonymous Oswin said...

As Your Grace suggests, it is NOT so much a problem of 'who said what to whom' - but of fairness and balance.

There can be no balance until it is openly admitted that the forces of Islam, within this country, have a VAST media/social/legal array, specifically designed to pressure government, and society as a whole, to its own opinions, to its own design, and for its own purposes; and at every level too!

To be a muslim in Britain, is to be part of an organisation, or blanket of organisations, whose sole purpose is to further the interests and causes of muslims; and thus of Islam.

At every level they organise to achieve their own ends: from within the prison system, to applying for grants, benefits, busaries, awards, or whatever.

If you are a muslim with a problem, then there is another muslim, or muslim organisation, that will advise you on every aspect of that problem, and will have a ready made solution. Indeed, if filling-in a form is required, it will probably be done for you.

They have everything stitched-up as tight as the proverbial ducks' orifice!

On the other hand, the rest of us are basically buggered! We cannot ever match their organisation(s), but we can expose them for what they are; and until we do so, we will forever be 'picked-off' piecemeal, or subjected to the gross unfairness of the subject here at hand.

24 December 2010 at 17:07  
Anonymous Oswin said...

JayBee, as usual, spot-on!

24 December 2010 at 17:29  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

JayBee

I see that we wholly agree with each other.

Oh and Mr Eman.

Yes, I suppose you could call them the Illuminati, for enlightened they most surely believe they are, as do I.

Which is why they like to keep virtually everyone else so well and truly in the dark, as well as in the darkest of ages, if at all possible. Indeed the darker our light, the brighter their light becomes.

As that well know fascist Ayn Rand had very good reason to believe. If you have real knowledge, why in the hell would you wish to share more then the very tiniest bit of it with anyone else, unless the price was right?

Knowledge is power. Knowledge is ever more expensive to obtain, therefore keeping power is ever more expensive.

Therefore those that has the knowledge, as well as the ability to make perfectly sure no one else but themselves has full access to it, will undoubtedly keep their power, and the rest will ultimately PERISH.

The proverbial THEY make perfectly sure the profane are metaphorically or otherwise crippled at birth, or shortly afterwards.

Now days usually by using their most insane ideology as yet invented, namely socialism. They then murder as many people, as they can find reasonably painless methods of doing so.

A sort of Darwinian survival of the fittest, cleverest and certainly the most supremely selfish gene.

Still the peasants fall for this nonsense time and time again, while the ruling elite rub their hands together with glee, and plan the next stage of their very own Great Plan.

You see I know because I am one of The Elite Class. A very lowly one I admit.

I know I can tell you other people the truth time and time again, but only a very few of you are capable of taking in the full magnitude of the lies that have always surrounded you.

Which is just as well, otherwise I really would be in the deepest or deep do-do's.

Such is the nature of very big lies, as a certain German propaganda minister of the 1930-1940's was most well noted for alluding to.

The same propaganda minister that learnt all his best tricks from, you guessed it, THE BBC.

25 December 2010 at 18:09  
Blogger Claire Khaw said...

Tactically insane to have a hissy fit about this.

We all know the TFA is Eurosceptic organisation stuffed with UKIP, disgruntled Tories and ex-Tories, some of whom are in the BNP.

The BNP are the other half of the moribund Eurosceptic movement, riven by social snobbery and petty divisions.

I have offered to be the TFA Press Officer and Legal Adviser the better to invite these accusations and comprehensively refute them, but such is the timorous, divided, petty-minded Dad's Army of Eursosceptics that there is no hope for anyone now except to convert to Islam ...

26 December 2010 at 10:47  
Anonymous len said...

The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 ESV)

26 December 2010 at 11:22  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Claire Kwaw @ 10.47

Don't you worry your head about us, Britain will muddle-through without the need for any exotic change of worship.

I'd rather a mushroom-cloud than your recommended panacea ...

26 December 2010 at 15:22  
Anonymous len said...

Oswin,
Amen to that!
We have but a short time on this Earth then we leave time and step into Eternity and I know where I would like to spend Eternity, in the presence of Jesus Christ not the other place!

26 December 2010 at 15:43  
Blogger A Simple Fool said...

Ien

So are your elite 'Illuminati' actively conspiring to control the world? Jewish Masons? Capitalists in league with Rome? And are they in league with Satan as part of the great delusion? They might even be aliens!

All sounds a bit far fetched to me!

26 December 2010 at 16:36  
Anonymous Oswin said...

A Simple Fool - I've just supported you elsewhere, on another posting, re' your request for 'simplicity' - so why complicate this one?

I don't think Len's remarks deserve yours; he has forever stated that he has no 'church' as such, but Christ's bidding alone.

26 December 2010 at 17:19  
Anonymous Oswin said...

A Simple Fool @ 16.36

Ah, I see, you may have been refering to an earlier post ... always best to specify etc.

26 December 2010 at 17:23  
Blogger A Simple Fool said...

Oswin said

Sorry one and all.

New to this and I don't know the rules yet. Hope there're easy to follow!

27 December 2010 at 00:04  
Anonymous len said...

Simple Fool.
It is apparent to me (as I have been around for some time) that there is a definite agenda going on in Europe and possibly further afield.
Power is being centralised in Europe and our Christian Heritage is being undermined along with National Identities . We are being ruled by an unelected very small group of people(not aliens)who impose their laws and their version of morality on us.

27 December 2010 at 10:06  
Blogger Claire Khaw said...

In case anyone cares, I have been disabled from commenting on the Today Programme Facebook page WITHOUT WARNING OR EXPLANATION and months of my comments have been deleted.

I have been "unpersonned" by the BBC censor, but the scale of this effort has taken me aback somewhat.

If you want to join the "Where's Claire?" campaign,

http://www.facebook.com/thetodayprogramme

is the place to go to complain about "liberal" censorship, if you already have a Facebook account.

If you don't yet have a Facebook account - like His Grace - it is time perhaps that you considered getting one so you can become my Facebook friend and part of a genuinely libertarian (in the sense of wanting fewer laws and lower taxes) yet socially conservative movement!

28 December 2010 at 10:30  
Anonymous Oswin said...

See, your last post is rather inviting; a pity you'll go on to ruin it, by some mention of Islam!

However, I see no reason as to why you, or your views, have been so proscribed; have you been truly naughty girl Claire???

28 December 2010 at 18:11  
Blogger Claire Khaw said...

Oswin, the Liberal Left think I am the naughtiest girl in the land!

28 December 2010 at 22:34  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Claire - if only you'd drop this idiocy of yours, re' Islam, you'd be ... er, quite normal! You might even make a good old-school protestant, if you put in a bit of extra effort. Give it some thought ...

28 December 2010 at 23:19  

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