Monday, December 20, 2010

Pope Benedict surrenders Vatican sovereignty

Mammon seems to have become a bit of an issue in the Holy See.

Not content with the systematic cover-up of child rape and the sheltering of paedophile priests, it appears that there has been more than a little collusion with the Mafia in money-laundering.

The Vatican Bank (aka the Institute for Works of Religion) has been guarding Peter’s Pence (actually, €1,000,000,000s) since Mussolini cut a deal with the Lateran Pacts in 1929. Its chief exec is accountable to a committee of cardinals, and ultimately to the Pope.

But its inner workings are shrouded in mystery: it is not open to the public and its ATMs are in Latin.

It was reported a few months ago that the Bank was facing money-laundering allegations concerning €23m of its assets. While the Vatican referred to the seizure of assets as a ‘misunderstanding’ The Independent notes court documents which appear to indicate that the Vatican Bank deliberately flouted anti-laundering laws ‘with the aim of hiding the ownership, destination and origin of the capital’:
The documents also reveal investigators' suspicions that clergy may have acted as fronts for corrupt businessmen and the Mafia. The documents pinpoint two transactions that have not been reported: one in 2009 involving the use of a false name, and another in 2010 in which the Vatican Bank withdrew €650,000 from an Italian bank account but ignored bank requests to disclose where the money was headed.
Following the (still unresolved) Marcinkus-Calvi masonic murder mysteries of the 1980s, l'Istituto per le Opere di Religione seems to be Italian opera, Jacobean tragedy and The Godfather. all rolled into one.

The Vatican is a sovereign city-state and is not under the jurisdiction of the Godless, secular, anti-Christian, immoral and corrupt EU (despite fervently desiring to foist it upon all other European states). It is all a question of papal sovereignty: the Pontifex Maximus cannot simultaneously be Catholic and subject to a higher temporal authority, especially when that higher authority is somewhat antithetical to Canon Law. The Vatican Bank is not supervised by the IMF and hitherto has not been subject to EU regulations and controls on money-laundering, despite being a member of the eurozone.

Since the Holy See also has no border security, it is perhaps unsurprising that l'Istituto per le Opere di Religione has been a rather useful mechanism for money laundering and tax evasion.

But in a move which was barely noticed by the media, it was reported in October that Pope Benedict ‘will bind the Vatican to implementing European Union laws against money laundering and financial fraud’:
The Vatican is “fully committed” to putting relevant EU legislation into effect by the end of 2010, as stipulated by a monetary accord the Vatican signed with the commission Dec. 17 last year, Amadeu Altafaj, spokesman for EU Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn, said in an interview in Brussels.
The interesting word is ‘bind’: the acquis is irreversible; it is sovereignty surrendered. By an ‘act of the pope’ the law will become applicable to ‘the institutions of the Holy See, including the Institute for Religious Works’. The Vatican agreed to set up a special authority as of 1 January 2011 to implement the new financial legislation ‘with the right to control the institutions of both the Vatican and the Holy See’. It is reported that the Authority’s head is likely to be Cardinal Attilio Nicora, who will become a sort of ‘central banker of the Vatican’.

One hopes he fares better than the last man to be known as ‘God’s Banker’.

Yet it is curious that the Vatican’s declaration of financial openness and transparency was delivered by ‘a high-ranking Vatican official, who declined to be identified’.

One might think that the toxic cocktail of money-laundering, financial fraud, corruption, murder, mafia, masons and secrecy would be enough to persuade Pope Benedict of the need to act swiftly.

But The Independent questions whether the Vatican intends to meet the 31 December deadline to implement the EU legislation. It observes: ‘Not complying with the deadline could nullify the monetary accord with the commission and lead to action by the European Court of Justice.’

Cardinals summoned to the highest court in the European Union?

That would be an interesting development.

Which possibly explains:
The prosecutors' office stated in court papers last month that while the bank has expressed a "generic and stated will" to conform to international standards, "there is no sign that the institutions of the Catholic Church are moving in that direction". It said its investigation had found "exactly the opposite".
The legal waters are indeed murky. Archbishop Paul Marcinkus was able to claim immunity from prosecution after the collapse of Banco Ambrosiano in 1982: it is one of the advantages of being a sovereign state.

Semper Eadem: His Grace might be forgiven for being a little sceptical about the Vatican being ‘bound’ by any superior jurisdiction.

Why submit to EU laws and directives on finance, but not 'Human Rights'?

It is not possible to serve two masters.

And this is not simply a question of God and Mammon.

Either Pope Benedict maintains Vatican sovereignty and upholds Canon Law, or he compromises both by opening the door to superior EU jurisdiction.

The Pope will never accede to the Treaty of Rome, but there is an emerging EU-Vatican 'Roman Question' which perhaps needs another Lateran Accord.

33 Comments:

Blogger Preacher said...

It would seem the Church of Rome has NEVER served two masters.
That decision was clear from the first Pope, (Not Peter).
Power & wealth in the guise of religion, deception & subterfuge, domination by fear.
Hardly the teaching or example found in the Lord Jesus.
"Come out from her my people".

20 December 2010 at 12:06  
Anonymous JayBee said...

The Vatican undermined its sovereignty by joining the eurozone.
The occupant of the papal throne will soon be soaked in a tide of euro disaster, unless he has more influence with the Almighty than King Canute.
Sell all that you have and give to the bail-out and you will have treasure in Brussels.

20 December 2010 at 12:46  
Blogger The Heresiarch said...

The ATM screens are written in Latin? Wow. I want them here. Perhaps we can persuade Boris to have a word with some of his banker chums?

20 December 2010 at 13:07  
Anonymous Voyager said...

The Vatican Bank is not supervised by the IMF

The IMF does NOT supervise banks and never has.

Money-laundering is rife in The Square Mile as WikiLeaks helpfully tells us with respect to Sudan.

Switzerland too incorporates some EU regulations into its business dealings as does Norway just as Britain conforms to US legislation in certain areas to facilitate business with US companies.

Sovereignty is lost the minute you open a bank especially if you allow it to engage in multicurrency activities.

20 December 2010 at 13:15  
Blogger Mr Eman said...

Cranmer

You really do has a bug up the proverbial when it comes to the Church of Rome!

"Why submit to EU laws and directives on finance, but not 'Human Rights'?"

Rhetorical question I assume.

Rome will submit to laws on money laundering and fraud. Not that much to conceed and given the corruption afoot in Italy, outlined by you, a wise move. Perchance an assination is in the offing.

The church does not, and never will, submit to secular and godless notions of 'human rights'. If it did we'd have a blind, one legged, mentally challenged, Islamic, lesbian claiming discrimination next time a Papal Conclave is called.

Thank God the Bride of Christ is unlike other nation states running headlong towards the European super state.

"It is not possible to serve two masters."

Exactly - tell that to Parliament!

"And this is not simply a question of God and Mammon. Either Pope Benedict maintains Vatican sovereignty and upholds Canon Law, or he compromises both by opening the door to superior EU jurisdiction."

Agreed, a risky strategy. However are the financial institutions of the bank covered by Canon Law? I don't know, but apart from church teaching against exhorbitant interest rates and possibly 'fat cat' bonuses, I'm not too sure it would be a matter for theological and ecclesiastical consideration.

Your opening comments are unworthy of you. Do please take the time to research this more impartially. You're only fuelling the likes of 'Preacher', 'English Viking' and others. No doubt there'll be spewing their hatred against Cathoicism in response to your blog.

Do TRY to be a better role model.

20 December 2010 at 15:24  
Blogger srizals said...

I thought Latin was a dead language. Guess I was wrong.

20 December 2010 at 15:52  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Eman said.

Thank God the Bride of Christ is unlike other nation states running headlong towards the European super state.

So, the Bride of Christ is a STATE/CITY WITHIN A CITY. Do say where in the Holy Bible it states this.

Hang on, let me help you?

I know of another Woman..
Revelation 17:18

'18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Do tell which other City rules over the kings of men, It is even given/honoured with ambassadors from foreign nations to suck up to Her?

Speaking about the wrong woman, I'm afraid!

I know, I was a member!!

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

20 December 2010 at 17:08  
Anonymous Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur said...

Corruption in the Vatican is right up there with the Eu. Italy should just shut the place down and expose the secrecy and criminal activity to the hostile public gaze. It might open a few people's eyes to what the Pope really stands for.

20 December 2010 at 18:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Srizals - "I thought Latin was a dead language. Guess I was wrong." Most likely.

Modern Italian, Spanish, and French are the most notable derivatives of Latin. This means that the language lives in modified forms - in the same way that English does in relation to Old English.

One would be interested to know whether your eastern languages have all remained, fully formed and intact, from the year dot (though one suspects that Japanese, for example, derives from Chinese).

Latin also influenced other languages, such as English - and so continues to live in that sense. The etymology of much of our vocabulary is Latin, which also returned to us through the kermits.

Furthermore, since Latin informed so much of education, law, religion, and government for so long - the disciplines are replete with Latin terminology.

So although Classical Latin is no longer spoken informally, and is no longer a lingua franca :) ; the language thrives among its descendents.

20 December 2010 at 18:53  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Your Grace, - thank you for the confirmation that the Holy Romans are tied to the Mafia.

I've met many RCs who take the lead in employing Mafia tactics for the destruction of competition or opposition. Now it's clear why they think their judgement and their reconstruction of truth supercede those of the Almighty.

20 December 2010 at 19:05  
Anonymous uk Fred said...

Am I the only one who thinks that is is sad that an organisation that thinks it is part of the Church Universal has become so infected with corruption?

20 December 2010 at 19:37  
Anonymous len said...

I think the really sad thing is that so many people have entered the Catholic Church and been deceived into thinking they were serving God when they were serving something altogether different.
I pray ,and hope others will too, for these people to awaken from the stupor that religion induces and get into a right relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

"And I heard another voice from heaven saying, 'Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities'" (Revelation 18:4,5).

God calls out HIS people, there are many of GODS people trapped in religious systems and God is calling them out!.

20 December 2010 at 19:48  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Dirty money is a little different to dirty donations , finance ethics have changed only recently and only one or two investment portifolios do much checking on comapany history and activity beyond , the annual accounts and no of shares . The wiles of the city is perhaps a little better than keeping strong chests full of silver or gold , even if one is never sure if the paper in your hand is worth what you gave the bank in the first place .
Once the pope is forced to submitt to brussels authprity , I expect a stream of lobby groups will be on there way to ahem help his holiness in becoming one with brussels to make a better world , let us hope that the churches can continue to do gods will and not that of Gramsci .

20 December 2010 at 22:23  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Thankyou your grace for finding the missing post , it is very troubling when things that have taken time to compose or create vanish into places you do not where .

20 December 2010 at 22:25  
Blogger srizals said...

Thank you anon at 18:53 for the info. Much obliged.

21 December 2010 at 00:11  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Lady Virginia Droit Du Seigneur said 20 December 2010 18:30
Corruption in the Vatican is right up there with the Eu.( Vatican is it's 'INSPIRATION', just like it was for Hitler) Italy should just shut the place down and expose the secrecy and criminal activity to the hostile public gaze. ( I am Italian and was a Catholic, we are unfortunately BORN into it, similar to Islam, and the hold it has over its People in Italy should not be under-estimated..Its false gospel is believed that they, Popes and Clergy, hold the keys to heaven itself and THEY let in or shut out whosoever they will. Only the RC Church can provide this and negotiate your entrance into heaven. This is why Italians suffer Her, they are misled from birth). It takes God's help and the Knowledge/Courage you will be viewed as unloyal if you believe otherwise, as my family in Italy do.(I have stated on another recent comment page here that my father is an Atheistic Catholic).
If you really have a love for Catholics, tell them about the Love of Christ (We Do Not Know It) for ALL OF US and that He died to offer a full salvation for whosoever believe's on His Name and His Name ONLY.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

21 December 2010 at 00:17  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

uk Fred said

Am I the only one who thinks that is is sad that an organisation that thinks it is part of the Church Universal has become so infected with corruption?

If you KNEW RC Church History you would know its Papal Throne's were bought with the Money of Prostitutes and THEIR B#@tards Who sat on the BEAST. As DANTE Aligheiri showed in his Divine Comedy, they were some of the most corrupt and evil men who ever walked upon the face of the earth, who could start an inquisition on a whim, to execute Jews in the thousands and biblical Christians in the MILLIONS. Read 'Will Durrant, The Story of Civilization'.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

21 December 2010 at 00:39  
Blogger Mr Eman said...

Cranmer

I rest nmy case!

So much hatred towards a christian institution that has promoted so much good in this fallen world.

Of course there's sin and corruption in the Romaan Church, it's human. The question is whether Christ's promise to ensure the gates of hell would not prevail against it has proven true. I think so.

Say what you will about the people in the church, it's doctrines are sound. Christ never promised it would be free from sin. His promise was the Holy Spirit would lead it in all truth. Challenge its doctrines and say where they have departed from God.

If you were the devil where would you launch your attack? Undermine faith by discrediting Christ's church. Corrupting man by dividing opinion about God's word. Rome stands against the great sins of our time. It doesn't compromise to gain approval or satisfy 'human rights' or political and social fashion.

My faith is that the Catholic church was established by Christ and given the mandate to develop our understanding of scripture and to translate it into action and worship. Obedience seems a difficult concept today in a world encouraginf 'self' expression,'self'awareness, 'self' fulfilment and 'self awareness.

Try to find your own path to God if you will, but do not discount the church established by His Son. Slandering Roman Catholicism only exposes the vulnerability and weakness of those doing so. If you believe 2000 years of this church is wrong fine - walk away. Free will.

Pick the apple and eat it.

21 December 2010 at 00:40  
Blogger srizals said...

Anon at 18:53,
As for the languages of the South East Asia, the diversity is so intense, one wonders if the Asians are related or not, for instance, in Malay, 'blood' is 'darah', as for the Dayak Iban. As 'I' is 'aku', exist in almost all of the Austronesia language in Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia and Philipines, even in Southern Thailand and the Cambodia, where remnants of a great ancient Malayan Champa civilisation once stood. Towards the North of Southern Thailand would be based on the Sino-Tibetan influence.

As 'water' would be 'air' further south of Malaysia, it becomes 'ayak' further north-west and 'ayor' in certain part of Perak. The Indonesian refer to man of character as 'bapak' or 'father', while the modern form of the language, which is Bahasa Melayu would be 'encik'. Undoubtedly, the language has evolved since Austric Phylum about 5k years ago. It is estimated there are about 200-300 languages in the Nusantara. Most are facing extinction. Sadly, Bahasa Melayu is now known as Bahasa Malaysia. English would always be English and not the British Language, but it's all political.

21 December 2010 at 01:11  
Blogger srizals said...

Found an interesting video on youtube,
something relating to Greek Orthodoxy or something. Check it out Mr. K.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvcizFKWNfc&feature=related

21 December 2010 at 07:32  
Blogger Caedmon's Cat said...

Mr Eman --

You incorrectly assume that Protestants like KingOfHighCs, English Viking, Cranmer et alia are opposed to Roman Catholicism. I think they would agree with me in declaring that we oppose the claims of the papacy's supreme authority and the corrupt political and financial institution that resides in the Vatican. There is one Lord, one faith and one baptism in Christ; this transcends all the spurious claims of an earthy kingdom which arrogates spiritual authority above all else.

21 December 2010 at 08:56  
Blogger Preacher said...

Mr Eman.
Since when has it been 'hateful' to speak the truth in love, with the desire to free people from a tyrannical oppresive regime that has been proved by history to be corrupt?.
Appearances are often deceptive.
Indeed,Paul himself warns believers to check all things For "Satan himself appears as an Angel of light". Is this why the succesive Popes resisted the Holy Word of God being translated into the language of the common people, with transgressors burnt at the stake?. For fear that when a true yardstick was available the people would see the truth & reject the many errors that Rome had subjected them to for the pursuit of power & filthy lucre?.
I could give many other examples, but my mission is to save the lost & preach the gospel, not to enter into dispute.
Stop whining like a child & play the man sir.

21 December 2010 at 11:51  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Caedmon's cat said 21 December 2010 08:56

Exactly.
As an ex catholic I state why I was deluded and was unaware I NEEDED CHRIST, NOTHING ELSE COULD HELP OR SAVE ME.
I understand Eman as I would have state the same blind acceptance of error, the day before Christ saved me I confessed Catholic Dogma.. When I looked deeper in RC dogma/beliefs, I was horrified at what I held as true.

I LOVE CATHOLICS, I WAS ONCE ONE.

HOWEVER, WHERE IS MY LOVE IF I LET THEM GO FEARLESSLY/IGNORANTLY TO HELL, ETERNALLY SEPERATED, STILL UNFORGIVEN, WHEN THERE IS NO NEED.

See, not ONE of my questions or statements responded to.
Just accused of HATING Catholics when nothing could be further from the TRUTH.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS.

21 December 2010 at 12:33  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Neither do I hate Catholicism itself. Indeed I respect it as the early form of organised Christianity, and revere the literary, intellectual and academic heritage that bequeathed to and preserved for Britain.

Like others here, however, I recognise human margins of error; and I believe in the English Church's response to the need for 'diversity.'

We still require our independence from the political, economic, and doctrinal control of Romans.

21 December 2010 at 16:16  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Srizals said. 21 December 2010 07:32

Why can you never just ask a question in plain english.

Greek Orthodox ( of Constantinople tradition) are of Nestorian tradition, REMEMBER I TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE.. I have told you, I do not recognise their beliefs or their Bible. I TOLD YOU THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS GOD..HOW MANY TIMES SRIZALS, HOW MANY TIMES?
Hence my previous sarcastic comment that you would submit comments from Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormon's, who like Greek Orthodoxy do not accept He is GOD!! The you send me what I know they believe already.. SRIZALS..IS THE POPE A CATHOLIC..
DO YOU UNDERSTAND MY INFERENCE??

The Roman Empire split into two, Rome (Roman Catholicism, who worship Statues) and Constantinople ( Greek Orthodoxy , who worship Icons). I DO NOT RECOGNISE EITHER AS FOLLOWING BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY, HENCE THEIR DIFFERENCE TO MOST HERE ON THIS BLOG.

Please read up about US, Protestantism is completely DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!

Please read history books as it is much more rewarding than my one paragraph responses and you will gain knowledge of ALL the World.

If I am not talking to you in an existing comment exchange, please put my full blog in as never look for Mr K. I only glanced at what you wrote and saw the abbreviation.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

21 December 2010 at 19:34  
Anonymous Petronius said...

Mr Eman, as a fellow Catholic I hear what you are saying at 00:40, but somehow, it is not good enough to simply brush off these failings by saying "Of course there's sin and corruption in the Roman Church, it's human". Yes, I know that, and I am not so naive as to expect any denomination to be sinless.
It's not so much the existence of the sin, or failing, which causes me unease, but rather the lack of clarity of purpose in the Vatican's responses to those failings.
For example, re the sex abuse by certain clerics: There is no NEED for the Pope to offer any deep psycological or cultural explanations, that is just an obfuscation. Simply hand the accused clerics over to the police, and let the law take its course without let or hindrance. That is all the response that is required. Paedophilia is evil and wrong - let those accused be taken before the courts; that is the correct response, rather than issue endless sermons expressing remorse and debating about the wider social context, etc.

When the MPs expenses 'scandal' became public last year, did Mr Cameron brush it off by saying "well, we're merely human"? Of course not. Although in truth nothing may have changed since, at least Cameron knew that he needed to APPEAR to be addressing the issue directly and putting wrongs to right.

I continue to hold to Catholic doctrine (whilst at the same time having the utmost respect and reverence for the teachings of my Protestant brothers and sisters - I would not be the man I am today had I not read Spurgeon and Nee, just to give two examples dear to my heart) but I must regretfully concede that something is rotten in the State of Vatican.

21 December 2010 at 21:02  
Anonymous Anon 2 said...

One begins to suspect that the global warming chaos will play into the hands of the eussr: and that el papa will stand less and less chance as everyone else succumbs to the takeover.

Except ... they know how to induce chaos; but they're utterly incapable of organisation. All their houses are built on lies, which is as sand.

So we shall see.



wv: chall. yes, I know; don't forget khall also. God's gonna get them both.

21 December 2010 at 21:31  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Eman said 21 December 2010 00:40
I rest my case! I REFUSE TO REST MINE

So much hatred towards a christian institution that has promoted so much good in this fallen world. WHERE..STATE IT?

Of course there's sin and corruption in the Romaan Church, it's human. (WHOOAH THERE. I THOUGHT IT HAD THE INFALLIBLE INSPIRATION OF GOD, ARE NOT ALL POPES INFALLIBLE ON DOCTRINE, HOW CAN THEY THEREFORE SIN..OH I GET YOU, ONLY THE POOR CHURCHGOERS AND CLERGY CAUGHT WITH THEIR FINGERS IN FRAUD OR ABUSING CHILDREN CAN BE HELD AS SINFUL..YEAH, I GETCHA. Or inquisitions can be blamed on the sons and daughters 'of the church' but NOT on the infallible Popes who sent them?? RIGHT!!

The question is whether Christ's promise to ensure the gates of hell would not prevail against it has proven true. I think so. I THINK NOT, IT PROMOTES THE DOCTRINES OF DEVILS BY OPENING THE GATES OF HELL AND WELCOMING THEM IN! THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT THE BODY OF CHRIST OR ANY WORLDLY CHURCH, IT IS MADE UP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO BELIEVE ON HIM!

Say what you will about the people in the church (OH ITS THE PEOPLE TO BLAME AGAIN NOT DOCTRINE BASED ON INFALLIBLE POPES DECLARING PAPAL BULLS? CORRECT!), it's doctrines are sound. Christ never promised it would be free from sin. His promise was the Holy Spirit would lead it in all truth.
Challenge its doctrines and say where they have departed from God.
IF I DO WILL YOU EVEN RESPOND WITH PROOF I AM INCORRECT, SAY SO AND I WILL!

If you were the devil where would you launch your attack? Undermine faith by discrediting Christ's church.(ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT CHRIST'S CHURCH) Corrupting man by dividing opinion about God's word (ROME DOES NOT BELIEVE IN GODS WORD OR YOU WOULD KNOW THAT STATUES ARE AN ABOMINATION AND IDOLATORY, WHETHER GOLDEN CALF OR JESUS.
Rome stands against the great sins of our time. It doesn't compromise to gain approval ( ROME HAS COMMUNION WITH WITCH DOCTORS , BUDDHIST, HINDU'S, SIKKHS AND SAYS THEY ALL WORSHIP THE SAME GOD BUT ARRIVE BY A DIFFERENT PATH? COMPROMISE!!!) or satisfy 'human rights' or political and social fashion.
CORRECT BUT THERE IS A REASON, Semper Eadem ('Always the Same'.)/Semper Unum ET Inseparabilis ('Always One and Inseparable').


My faith is that the Catholic church was established by Christ (WHEN/WHERE WAS IT, SHOW ME?) and given the mandate to develop our understanding of scripture and to translate it into action and worship. (WHEN/WHERE WAS IT, SHOW ME?)
Obedience seems a difficult concept today in a world encouraginf 'self' expression,'self'awareness, 'self' fulfilment and 'self awareness.

Try to find your own path to God if you will, but do not discount the church established by His Son. (WHEN/WHERE WAS IT, SHOW ME?) Slandering Roman Catholicism only exposes the vulnerability and weakness of those doing so (Where have I lied, state it). If you believe 2000 years of this church is wrong fine - walk away. Free will. THANKS , I DID.

Pick the apple and eat it.

Genesis 3:1
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

An excellent example of picking the apple and eating it. Don't you agree?

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

22 December 2010 at 02:18  
Blogger Chancellor More said...

KingofHighCS

You're in my prayers.

So much bitterness; so much arrogance; so much uncertainty.

Have you read the most recent Catechism of the Church? I urge you to do so; it will answer all these questions. It seems to me you have quite a childish idea of the faith you have turned your back on.

"God's Servant First"

22 December 2010 at 02:59  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Chancellor More said 22 December 2010 02:59

I am not surprised..Never any answers, are there!!!

'Have you read the most recent Catechism of the Church?'

No,

'it will answer all these questions.'

Well then, SO ANSWER THEM FROM IT.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

22 December 2010 at 03:08  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Your Grace has missed the TRUE meaning why a religious sovereign state would do this.

It is done in anticipation of it's awaited leader who will, as the Supreme authority within the Revived Roman Empire, establish his dominion and rule over it with the agreement of Rome!

The actors are present and being called onto the stage to fulfil God's prophecy to bring the 'fullness of the gentiles' to a close.
He will then turn His attention towards Israel as He has promised in and by His Eternal Word!!

Soon will be the coming time of great delusion, men given over to a reprobate mind and allowed to show what life on earth without God's holding back of evil means.

It is prophecy being fulfilled..
Israel is back in the land, the Empire is nearly complete, only awaiting ONE MAN'S arrival and revealing.

This is why Rome has done what it has.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

22 December 2010 at 14:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't read this blog and expect there to be anti-Catholic postings. It is cheap of you.

23 December 2010 at 17:26  
Blogger KINGOFHIGHCS said...

Anonymous said 23 December 2010 17:26

I don't read this blog and expect there to be anti-Catholic postings. It is cheap of you.

WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU EXPECTING FROM A BLOG THAT ALLOWS US TO EXAMINE THE POLITICAL-RELIGIOUS WORLD THROUGH CURRENT EVENTS? CHALLENGING STATED POSITIONS FROM WHOSOEVER/WHATSOEVER IS IN THE NEWS AND COMMENTED ON AFTER AN OPENING STATEMENT FROM HIS GRACE.

READ CRANMER'S STATEMENT OF WHAT HE ALLOWS HERE!!!

OR ARE YOU SAYING ROMAN CATHOLICISM IS ABOVE ALL SCRUTINY OR TRUTH REVEALED??

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

23 December 2010 at 20:24  

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