Thursday, January 20, 2011

The hypocrisy of Baroness Warsi

It gives His Grace no pleasure at all to write that headline, having praised Sayeeda Warsi and admired her time and time and time and time and again over recent years, not least for her resilience and fortitude in confronting the sort of obtuse mindset she engages with in this video.

But please watch it to the end.

She refers to a 'direct conflict' between two sorts of Muslim.

She draws a clear distinction between 'real British Muslims' and 'those who bring Islam into huge disrepute'.

That is, one may say, between the 'moderate' and the 'extremist'.

The very distinction which today she blames for 'fuelling misunderstanding and intolerance'.

She further says: 'Britain needs to be very clear about (the distinction)' between these two types of Muslim.

May we then refer to 'real' Muslims and 'disreputable' ones?

Or is it only Muslims who may distinguish?

And, if so, how may the rest of us be 'very clear' about the distinction?

Perhaps the Baroness might clarify what terminology we may deploy so that we may be 'very clear' about the two types of Muslim who are in 'direct conflict'; between those Muslims who want to live peacefully with their non-Muslim neighbours and those who wish to introduce shari’a into this country, restrict freedom of speech and confine women to their homes.


Blogger John M Ward said...

I agree that today is not her finest moment; but I still believe her underlying principles to be sound, and that there probably is no straightforward way to verbalise the situation that now exists.

Words, especially the spoken word, cannot always be sufficient, and should always be taken too much to heart. Babies and bathwater...

20 January 2011 at 17:20  
Anonymous i albion said...

Methinks she has had a "talking" to by her bretheren.

20 January 2011 at 17:41  
Blogger steve said...

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20 January 2011 at 17:44  
Blogger steve said...

Britain doesn't need to understand anything.

They come to live here they need to understand us.

Always one way traffic.

20 January 2011 at 17:45  
Anonymous LibertyPhile said...

Baroness Warsi is suffering like so many intelligent Westernised Muslims who try to reconcile the irreconcilable. Their particular faith is like an intellectual ball and chain and from time to time it means they talk complete rubbish.

20 January 2011 at 17:47  
OpenID said...

She should never have been appointed in the first place. She has never demonstrated any discernible talent, other than twice being a Conservative PPC and being a female Muslim.

Her rapid rise thanks to David Cameron shows two things: Cameron cares more about Political Correctness and patronage than genuine talent when choosing his team, and all appointments to the Lords from now on should be made by an independent commission, not by politicians.

20 January 2011 at 17:48  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Steve @ 17:45 - in a nutshell!

20 January 2011 at 18:02  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

She draws a clear distinction between ‘real British Muslims’ and ‘those who bring Islam into huge disrepute’.

Real British Muslims may be embarrassed by the extreme teachings of Islam but remain loyal to their victimized community. Meanwhile, they fulfil their obligation to jihad by outbreeding the kuffar to claim Britain for Islam.

Those who bring Islam into huge disrepute proclaim the extreme teachings of Islam as the revealed word of Allah. Meanwhile, they fulfil their obligation to jihad by outbreeding the kuffar to claim Britain for Islam.

20 January 2011 at 18:10  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

I wonder what the "Baroness" would think about this video of a Canadian Minister being interviewed.
Civil servants cancelled a showing of a film about Iran under various threats, and he ordered that it should go ahead. He defended his decision, and free speech, very forcefully on TV, well worth watching. This is the type of person we need in government!
The video is at

I've been blogging about it on my site - I hope the film they are discussing will be shown here in the UK, but somehow I doubt it.

20 January 2011 at 18:26  
Anonymous len said...

What is a 'real' Muslim.?

A follower of Mohammed and the Koran presumably.

Christians(followers of Christ) seek to follow in Jesus`s footsteps, and their actions to reflect the teachings of Christ.

Muslims(followers of Mohammed) seek to follow in Mohammed`s footsteps, and their actions to reflect the teachings of Mohammed.

20 January 2011 at 18:27  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

forget you've been tangoed, you know when you've been taqiyyad.

You sucked up and got suckered in YG.

But I am enjoying your posts more and more as it dawns on you.

20 January 2011 at 18:35  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Which part of The Koran does Sayeeda Warsi see as incompatible with 21st Century Britain ?

20 January 2011 at 20:06  
Blogger English Viking said...

It's really easy,

there are those 'muslims' who don't pay any attention to the imam, the hadith, the koran and all the rest of it... rather like your granny, when asked what her religion is, replying 'Christian', thinking so because she is white, born in England and gives to the RSPCA. Then there are those who REALLY believe what the pædo-prophet said, a la 9/11.

21 January 2011 at 01:34  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

I notice she quotes from the Old Testament to make her point about outdated practices and beliefs and the similarity in the Koran. What she fails to realise is Christians take their faith from the New Testament, something the Koran just can match. In other words what I am trying to say is the Koran hasn't undergone any modernisation of any kind, unlike the Bible and the Christian Faith. They still believe it is ok to kill for apostasy and for family honour in respect of Islam. Parts of Islam ae still stuck in the dark ages.

Until Islam has gone through similar processes that Christianity has in regards to modernisation, there is no place for it here as far as I am concerned.

21 January 2011 at 10:04  
Anonymous len said...

Islam has no solutions for the problems of fallen man other than repression,fear and intimidation to keep the fallen nature in 'control'.

The Old Testament law was designed to keep the fallen nature in check until the solution for this problem arrived on Earth...Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ through his atonement on the Cross at Calvary opened the way back to God.Man could be re-born with a new Spirit attuned, re- united with God.

Islam offers no solution to fallen man , denies the Divinity of Christ,thereby closing the door to Life , to salvation for millions of lost souls.It is very sad and very tragic.

23 January 2011 at 08:54  

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