Tuesday, February 15, 2011

"Hindus drink their own piss" - an unregulated curriculum for a faith-based academy

"The disbelievers, they are the worst of all people. The Hindus drink piss, I've told you this. Do they have any intellect? No."
Welcome to this morning's assembly, boys and girls. In accordance with our statutory obligations in our daily act of collective worship, we are going to talk of something that is 'broadly Christian': the filth that is those who do not believe in Islam; the fact that Hindus drink their own piss; and the belief that idolators have no intellect. Do we all know the difference between fact and belief? No? Well, when I say what I believe, it is a fact. And if you disrespect that, I'll hit you. Hard. Understand? Good.

Anyone who saw last night's C4 Dispatches 'Lessons in Hate and Violence' on the 'Muslim Eton' must be wondering today how the LibDem MP John Hemming can possibly defend this school and assert that it is 'doing its job properly' (yes, a professing liberal defending 'hate speech', social segregation, religious apartheid and the beating of children).

The accusations that C4 'distorted the truth' and took quotations 'out of context' are exactly the sort of knee-jerk defence offered against their previous documentary 'Undercover Mosque'. The school has apparently closed early for half-term, out of fear of attacks by the English Defence League.

Right.

Does the EDL have a history of violent action against schools or threats against children? Have specific ones been received? If so, investigations must be immediate and arrests made. But His Grace is of the view that the school's premature closure is nothing to do with the C4 documentary being 'ideal fodder for the EDL'. It has closed because of the truth, and it is a truth which has been long-known: in some sharia schools, children are beaten and abused, and the authorities - police, social services, LEA, MPs - have turned a blind eye for the sake of multicultural sensitivites.

If corporal punishment is prohibited in all state and independent schools – as the 1998 School Standards and Framework Act clearly intended – then it is difficult to see why madrasahs are exempt.

Do not Muslim children have an equal right under the law as those of other faiths to be protected from abuse? Why are we tolerating a culture of violence and physical oppression in some Islamic schools while all the others are constrained by law to encourage, uplift, edify and generally mollycoddle and wrap in cotton wool? Good grief, pupils are not now even permitted to come last in a sporting event or fail an exam lest their fragile egos be deflated and their delicate sense of self-worth be damaged, causing life-long developmental trauma and irreparable emotional retardation.

The Prime Minister has pledged to cease the toleration of this malignant manifestation of religio-political poison: all children must be equal under the law, and Muslim children in Britain should expect to be protected against this sort of mental, emotional, spiritual and physical abuse. To teach that the non-Muslim is dirty, that Hindus 'drink their own piss' and that they 'have no intellect' is the very genesis of the Islamist supremacist ideology. The Prime Minister has signalled that he understands this. We would not tolerate a school teaching such things against Jews, so why does the Education Secretary not order an immediate investigation and invasive Ofsted inspection?

Ah, there's the problem: 'invasive Ofsted inspection' is something of an oxymoron, for schools like this are given a clean bill of health by HM Inspectorate of Education every year. Ofsted obligingly send headteachers days of notice - ample time to stow away the sharia textbooks; encourage problem pupils to take a few days off; prime the staff with the right things to say and hand-pick the most favoured children to sing the school's praises. And the headteacher has at least two days to rehearse a jolly nice show of social cohesion and inter-faith respect.

The tragedy is not that C4 have misrepresented the school, as ludicrously asserted by John Hemming MP (mindful of his electorate), but that all faith schools, and, in particular, all Muslim schools, will be tarnished with the same brush and viewed with the same suspicion. This is 'ideal fodder' not for the EDL, but for the aggressive secularists at the BHA and the NSS, whose song sheet is tediously monotone in calling for the abolition of all faith-based education.

Thank God the Coalition is not taking us down that desert path. It is a fundamentally Conservative principle that parents must be free to educate their children as they wish. But this must be in accordance with the customs and traditions of the country, in particular with the foundational tenets of liberal democracy. It is for this reason that we must maintain the 'broadly Christian' dimension of state-based education - in the curriculum and in the daily assembly, for that which is 'broadly Christian' can be offensive to no-one. Clearly, some extremist schools are failing to fulfil their statutory obligations. A few week ago, Michael Gove announced: "A due diligence unit will monitor applications for new schools and arrangements in existing schools so there's no risk of extremism taking hold."

This is long overdue. And still we await the details.

44 Comments:

Anonymous DanJ0 said...

Well, it has to be said that removing the possibility of faith schools would actually solve the problem. :)

15 February 2011 at 11:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The tragedy is that this will be turned into: We need more funds to bring these schools into line; their failure gives them a right to more hand outs!

15 February 2011 at 11:43  
Blogger Botogol said...

yes, well, sigh - there should be no such thing as state-run faith school. State schools should be secular, and Churches/Mosques free to set up their own private schools if they wish.

15 February 2011 at 11:47  
Blogger Anabaptist said...

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15 February 2011 at 11:55  
Blogger killemallletgodsortemout said...

"A due diligence unit will monitor applications for new schools and arrangements in existing schools so there's no risk of extremism taking hold."

The trouble with this government is that they are full of bluff, bluster and broken promises. Their Ministers like the sound of their own voices, spouting on all manner of subjects - aid to India being a priceless example on state Radio 4 yesterday - and do little or nothing. Cameron being a leftie doesn't help.

15 February 2011 at 11:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DanJ10 - The majority of faith schools do not cause this problem. I went to C of E schools when I was younger. No encouragement of bigotry or intolerance at all.

15 February 2011 at 12:04  
Blogger john in cheshire said...

If there was any honesty in the discussion of 'faith' schools then we would all acknowledge that we are not talking about CofE, Catholic or Jewish schools, which have existed quite well in our counrty for centuries. The problem is with muslim schools and to be frank they should not be supported, and certainly not with public money. If it was in my power I would ban them completely. And no, I don't accept all the equality arguments of the socialists.

15 February 2011 at 12:22  
Anonymous tony b said...

I assume you took a similar stance against the setting up of academies that teach young earth creationism?

15 February 2011 at 12:23  
Blogger Little Black Sambo said...

Let's ask Mehdi Hasan what he thinks - Oh, I think I know.

(tony b, what has your comment to do with the subject? Nothing.)

15 February 2011 at 13:01  
Anonymous Gordo said...

There are many other broad brush actions that would also solve the problem ;)

"Well, it has to be said that removing the possibility of faith schools would actually solve the problem. :)"

15 February 2011 at 13:08  
Blogger Gnostic said...

So where are the charges of inciting relgious hatred then? The police practically fell over themselves to investigate eighty year old Muriel Clark who wrote an article for her parish magazine last month.

15 February 2011 at 13:22  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

This exposé comes as no surprise to some of us who work with children in certain areas of the country.

As I have highlighted in comments on numerous occasions before, how on earth do you think unskilled, untrained immans get young boys who have been cooped up in school all day to sit through boring Koran recitations every evening at madrasah?

The problem now of course (evidenced above already) is that all the idiots will emerge who claim this is a problem with 'faith schools' - despite the fact that most faith schools outperform their secular counterparts on whatever measure you choose. The problem isn't with faith schools but with schools from one particular faith. Naturally, we won't be able to point this out as it will be giving succour to "far right extremists"

The counterfeit religion called Islam is the problem. If it makes you a "far right extremists" to say so, then so be it. Time for some people to grow a back bone and start speaking the truth plainly.

15 February 2011 at 13:29  
Blogger killemallletgodsortemout said...

There has been an arrest made in connection with this incident.

15 February 2011 at 13:48  
Blogger Pierre_Picaud said...

Your Grace,

When I watched this program it dawned on me. These places are not schools, they are bomb factories.

They are constructing little bombs, with 20 year fuzes, that will eventually be targetting our towns and cities if we do not do something: now.

15 February 2011 at 13:53  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

The establishment of schools based on faiths other than the Jewish and Christian world-views has come about because of the extremist and intolerant world-view of secular humanism.

Secular humanism by pronouncing in accord with its fascist Grandfather Nietzsche that ‘God is dead’ has discovered it has no objective basis for making moral judgments (‘Hell is other people’ said Sartre. How can one judge, as a secular humanist, between the competing claims of other secular humanists?) In such a world how can there be valid value judgments? How can one draw a line when ‘all religions are the same’? If one religion gets something, secular humanism reasons, then it would be inconsistent to deny another religion the same (that is why secular humanism cannot help but support repressive ideologies).

It fears being humiliated by an attack which aims to reduce it to a series of contradictions – it damages its emotional sense of moral worth.

Its strategic aim, its method is largely unknown to itself, is to establish as the basis for dialogue what Francis A. Schaeffer called the Fact-Value division. Imagine a bungalow with a ground floor and attic only. At ground floor level sit the secular humanists. At this level are housed the laws of cause and effect, verifiable claims and science. In the attic they have placed religion, aesthetic values, morals, God. That which is in the attic is never permitted to come downstairs and engage in polite conversation. If it is denied access to the ground floor then it can, over time, be assumed not to exist – except as a figment of one’s imagination.

The secular humanists are in a dilemma of their own making: either permit State support for all faith schools or abolish State support for all faith schools (the latter attracting the charge of fascism).

15 February 2011 at 14:02  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

To teach that the non-Muslim is dirty, that Hindus ‘drink their own piss’ and that they ‘have no intellect’ is the very genesis of the Islamist supremacist ideology.

Any Muslim education worthy of the name will inevitably result in the pupils learning that they are superior to non-Muslims; it is one of the bedrocks of the religion. And, yes, the non-Muslim is dirty (Qur’an 9:28 uses ‘unclean’), making non-Muslims the equivalent, under Islamic law, of fæces and urine.

Michael Gove’s due diligence unit will have as its task the overturning of the very core of Islamic belief. The best of British luck to it.

15 February 2011 at 14:11  
Blogger Wesley 'Whitey Lawful' Mcgranor said...

The Mohammedans want these pagans converted or decapitated. Invite them to Christ, if they do not accept don't go converting to Catholicism over it.

15 February 2011 at 14:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comment by John Hemming underlines why I will never vote for his party again.
I am 72 and have always voted liberal. Those whom the gods wish to destroy ,they first make mad , could not be truer.
Peter James

15 February 2011 at 14:52  
Anonymous Paul said...

Increasingly Muslims are allowed to use one standard while non-Muslims use another and the government tolerates and/or sanctions such shenanigans !

15 February 2011 at 14:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As we speak you can bet another ACPO Common Purpose graduate will be on the phone to one of his Common Purpose Chief Constable associates somewhere in the country urging him/her to launch another attempt to silence Despatches by charging the producers with ‘hate crimes’.

The truth is no defence.

15 February 2011 at 15:02  
Anonymous John Thomas said...

Does DanJo think that only faith-based schools are capable of behaving badly, and all non-faith based schools are perfect? This reminds me of the usual delusion that if you remove conventional religion or faith, you remove anything that involves indoctrination into a world-view/value system. All children in all our schools are indoctrinated into a world-view/value system; for 90% it's the secular-materialist one.

15 February 2011 at 15:04  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

No. It was just a wry comment given what His Grace said in his article. Hence, the :) at the end. Still, use it as a springboard if you wish.

15 February 2011 at 15:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Contrast last night’s Despatches with last night’s “Geert Wilders: Europe’s Most Dangerous Man?” from the BBC.

The most dangerous men in Europe our own treacherous liberal and far-left MPs and MEPs who continue to encourage, and give succour to, a barbaric ideology intent on our destruction.

15 February 2011 at 15:12  
Blogger English Viking said...

Do Hindus drink their own piss?

Why?

I guess it's better than drinking someone else's.

15 February 2011 at 15:17  
Anonymous Oswin said...

There are faiths, and then there are other faiths; some faiths aren't faiths, but masquerade as faiths.

There are schools, and then there are other schools; some schools aren't schools, but masquerade as as schools.

Neither masquerade belongs in Britain; both are an abomination.

15 February 2011 at 15:33  
Anonymous Oswin said...

English Viking @ 15:17

I don't know about Hindus, and I don't know much about piss, but I do know that we Brits have been force-fed s**t for years, and daren't say that it stinks!

Please forgive my foray into the excremental, sometimes only such effluvia will suffice...

15 February 2011 at 15:54  
Blogger English Viking said...

I just tried to post a link to Youtube, where there are several videos showing Hindus harvesting Cow's piss and drinking it, and also of Hindus claiming some kind of health benefit from drinking their own piss.

Wasn't successful (could be that I'm a bit thick, could be barred on this comment section) but if you go to Youtube, you'll see it.

Avoid the comment section for the vids if you are easily offended.

15 February 2011 at 16:04  
Anonymous IanCad said...

One's own urine is a first rate cure for smelly feet. it is also an excellent hair conditioner and dandruff preventive. I've used it for years.

15 February 2011 at 16:26  
Blogger AncientBriton said...

Many school boys will have memories of Isaiah 36:12, one of the few verses they could recall:
"But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? [hath he] not [sent me] to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" but that is Old Testament where many shocking stories may be found.

The difference is that Islam has not/cannot move on. If Muslims deny it we must assume that they are lying for their faith which is permitted under their religion but not others.

15 February 2011 at 16:29  
Blogger English Pensioner said...

Now I am prepared to accept that some words could possibly have been taken out of context by the programme, although I have my doubts, but can anyone tell me how this could happen to a threat to beat a child? In what context is it OK to make such a threat? And as any parent knows, there is no point in making threats unless, in the limit, you are prepared to carry them out, so one must conclude that this happens. If this happened at an ordinary comprehensive, the children would be busy sending texts, twitters and the rest with the result that parents would be on he doorstep before the lesson ended! But then I suppose that these pupils have been indoctrinated and accept such treatment in a similar manner to the Hitler Youth!

And as for blaming the EDL for the school having to close early, I always feel that it is a great pity that organisations like this can't sue for slander. I have seen no evidence anywhere that the EDL have ever started any violence, although on occasion they have had to defend themselves against violence from the AFL.
Its worth looking at Inspector Gadgets blog to see the aftermath of the EDL demo in Luton and compare it with the Students demo!

15 February 2011 at 16:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

State funded Roman Catholic education in Northern Ireland is an example of harm segregation does to society.
Perhaps Dispatches should do a story on it.

15 February 2011 at 17:27  
Blogger Flossie said...

As this thread seems to have got rather lavatorial, don't forget chaps to pee on your compost heap to save the planet.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/6554958/Urinate-on-the-compost-heap-to-save-the-planet-says-the-National-Trust.html

15 February 2011 at 17:27  
Blogger LeucipottomySpoon82 said...

It appears that Moh and muslims don't discriminate against camels anyway:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/83423

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/082.sbt.html#008.082.794

15 February 2011 at 17:48  
Anonymous not a machine said...

oh I dont know your grace I found it all rather enlightening ,it was the light oratory soring unto the heavens , I fail to see how people could possibly beleive that it is a medieval stubborn faith lacking any of the grace of christ the saviour .Even Mr Hemmings could find no vice in it so it must be true ...........

Hope you are all well. Nice to be back.

15 February 2011 at 17:49  
Blogger LeucipottomySpoon82 said...

Ooops my apologies. Should have done a 'linked' link:

Muslim Texts

Islam Q and A

15 February 2011 at 17:53  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"State funded Roman Catholic education in Northern Ireland is an example of harm segregation does to society."

That would be the form of my argument against faith schools of all types. Mixing kids of different ethnicities, religions, and the like together makes it harder for people to hate the Other in later life I reckon.

15 February 2011 at 18:33  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

I went to a wonderful State comprehensive school where the Metal working teacher smashed kids heads against a vice on the bench if they were struggling getting something right.

I think the State is due a good headbashing, as they seem to be struggling getting anything right

15 February 2011 at 18:43  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hindus drink cow piss and worship cow dung, it's a fact

http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

still, they're better than the mohamMADans

15 February 2011 at 19:03  
Blogger Simian said...

I would love to see an end to these awful 'schools' but pragmatically I can't see any Government being in a position to act on this.
What about making the teaching of the full National Curriculum and setting minimum standards of attainment as a precondition for Government funding? I'm sure CofE schools would sail through such tests and I presume that if they did not change these 'madrassas would fail. It's amazing what the prospect of no funding can achieve, whilst not giving extremists ammunition on the basis of unfair discrimination. By contrast, impose a crude blanket ban on madrassas and you have more seeds for future problems.

15 February 2011 at 19:05  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ DanJ0 (18:33)—If faith schools were banned, Muslim children would still be taught their supremacist faith in mosques, and, with the Office for National Statistics reporting that 80 per cent of Muslims actively practise their religion, few children would escape the lessons. A ban on faith schools and a ban on mosques teaching Islam would see children taught at home. There’s no way out other than a ban on Islam itself.

15 February 2011 at 19:19  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Yo Bro!

15 February 2011 at 19:53  
Blogger LeucipottomySpoon82 said...

LOL @ Bred in the bone.

15 February 2011 at 19:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Christian Schools are, today, the very best.
Then come Independent Schools.
At the very bottom of the league come State Schools which are cold, efficient (or think they are) and bureaucratic.
Well - that's true for where I live anyway.

16 February 2011 at 08:00  
Anonymous tony b said...

Little Black Sambo,

sorry to see that you're too daft to see the relevance of my comment.

16 February 2011 at 19:13  

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