Saturday, February 19, 2011

Tough on Islamism; tough on the causes of Islamism

A guest post by LibertyPhile

ENGAGE says it is dedicated to promoting the involvement of British Muslims in politics and the media. That might well be the case but it is half the story. ENGAGE has its own political agenda that it wants to push.

Over a recent six month period ENGAGE published on the top page of its website 236 news items.

A quarter concerned British policy in the Middle East, Israel, Zionism or Jews, of a critical or negative nature; 12% concerned British anti-terror policies and actions (e.g., body scanners at airports are a bad idea, they interfere with freedom of religion!) and 8% concerned attacks or criticism of other Muslims especially those who show they are integrated in any way in British society, such as Yasmin Alibhai Brown (she doesn’t like the Burqa or veiling), the Quilliam Foundation, British Muslims for Secular Democracy, and Taj Hargey.

This is nearly half their news coverage. Typical headlines are shown below.

ENGAGE can say what it likes about British foreign policy and even Ms Alibhai Brown but it most certainly cannot claim to bring impartiality to the secretariat of the recently formed All-Party Parliamentary Group on Islamophobia. Its appointment to that position is causing astonishment.

And what about people who don’t agree with stoning? Shenaz Bunglawala, Head of Research of ENGAGE now has a parliamentary pass. Mr Inayat Bunglawala, an ENGAGE Advisor on Research and Policy, and a former spokesperson of the Muslim Council of Britain, is on public record as saying that stoning (torturing someone to death) for adultery (yes, for adultery) is OK if that is what people want for their legal system.

Do we now have the possibility that any criticism of stoning will be considered Islamophobic?

It is not clear from the ENGAGE website if Mr Bunglawala is still formally connected with the organisation. In fact there is nothing on the website about the people behind ENGAGE.

Typical ENGAGE headlines:
Liberty warn Tory MP of legal action if he refuses to meet veiled constituents

Alibhai-Brown continues her shrill crusade against Burqa and Niqab-wearers

Tories promise pro-Israel groups that war crimes legislation will be amended

A look at Britain 's Abu Ghraib

'Archly conservative' group accuses EU of undermining Israeli democracy

ENGAGE writes to Home Secretary Theresa May on Dr Zakir Naik’s exclusion order

The relevance of the burqa to stabbing of Stephen Timms MP? (it isn’t)

Conservatives reiterate support for Zionist goals in desperate bid for votes

ENGAGE Consultation Response: Use of advanced imaging technology in an aviation security environment (it interferes with freedom of religion)

Conservatives reiterate support for Zionist goals in desperate bid for votes

ENGAGE writes to OSCT about Quilliam's attack on Islam Channel

Special Branch accused of intimidating Scottish Muslims into spying for them

ENGAGE critique of Quilliam report: 'Re-programming British Muslims'

Cameron pledges support for Zionist goals in Jewish Chronicle interview

Surprise, surprise: Taj Hargey condemns mosque application in Surrey

UK Government conspires to grant immunity to Israeli war criminals

Tory MP mocks burqa-wearers in parliament

UK Government was briefed beforehand by Israeli Mossad of fake passport use

Daily Telegraph columnist confuses UK 's interests with Israel 's interests

For Israel , a reckoning

Government faces widespread criticism for 'futile' ban on Islam4UK but gains support of Quilliam and British Muslims for Secular Democracy (BMSD)

UK Stop & Search policy ruled illegal

UK Government factsheet shows clear bias towards Israel

Khalid Mahmood MP and BMSD voice support for profiling Muslim passengers

His Grace woud like to add that Harry's Place makes rather concerning reading on the issues surrounding iEngage. And His Grace is rather confused (actually, quite sincerely) as to how the Prime Minister can, on the one head, pledge himself to the eradication of Islamism and the causes of Islsamism, and, on the other, say absolutely nothing about the appointment of iEngage as the Secretariat for the APPG on Islamophobia. As is observed:
There is a real danger that iEngage will seek to prevent non or anti-Islamist Muslims from participating fully in the APPG, and will use it as a platform to attack, not those who hate Muslims, but those who are critical of Islamist political parties. The potentially important findings and recommendations of the APPG will be undermined by the involvement of iEngage.
Frankly, His Grace wonders why there is as yet no APPG to examine Christianophobia. He can hardly wait to see which Christian extremists are appointed to its secretariat.


Blogger Rebel Saint said...

But unless you a designated terrorist organisation you belong to "moderate Islam". And even if you belong to a designated terrorist organisation the way to win you round is to give you money, resources & prestige to de-radicalise you.

For all faiths - especially the established faith - it is the complete opposite. You are labelled an "extremist" unless you can supply compelling evidence that your faith is benign, inclusive & tolerant. And grants, services & positions of responsibility are withheld from the "extremists" because they don't want to extend their corrupting influence.

19 February 2011 at 09:48  
Anonymous Anguished Soul said...

Stoning for adultery? This could almost be seen as a form of population control.

19 February 2011 at 10:56  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

I'm just a simple soul and so my understanding of politics is limited, BUT it seems to me that appeasement is the name of the game where Islam is concerned. Why this is the case is what eludes me. Clearly our Government is supposed to look after our interests and safety and yet this flies in the face of that.

I also fail to understand why the emphasis is always on minorities and diversity and not on the indigenous (contentious word I know) majority. Being a simple soul as already mentioned, my attitude to minorities has unfortunately hardened over the years due to the constant barrage of diktats from above on how we must behave. I hope God will forgive me for such weakness in the face of Identity rape.

19 February 2011 at 11:09  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Our politics is all Jew and Muslim oriented, when will the Brits get a look in.

19 February 2011 at 11:47  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"Our politics is all Jew and Muslim oriented, when will the Brits get a look in."

The not-Jewish and not-Muslim Brits, you mean?

19 February 2011 at 12:26  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

DanJ0 said..."The not-Jewish and not-Muslim Brits, you mean?"

I mean Islam is Arab supremacist in origin and Zionists are Jewish supremacist in origin and neither are in Britains best interests.

When will our British politics be about what is in our interests like their agendas are in their interests.

19 February 2011 at 12:55  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Operative 0666 19 February 2011 11:47 & Operative ;-)1010 19 February 2011 12:26

Operatives, PLEASE, no sarcastic fighting amongst ourselves.

SPECTRE demands complete agreement OR ELSE!

If you both continue to displease me, I can promise you a very *different* estate than the one you both currently enjoy!!!

Keep plugging away despite the facts and don't let this 'superstitious lot' onto our EndGame..

Mums the word..Or was that The Avengers?.

Your sloppiness is now affecting my judgment. BEHAVE immediately.

Number One

19 February 2011 at 12:59  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

My simple Lancastrian judgement on this matter is that we Brits are only good at two things imperialism or insularism

As an island race insularist comes as natural and should not be confused with racism.

But we simple folk will sit back and leave the running of things to university educated big wigs.

The commoners would only make a mess of everything if it was left to us and I prefer our present utopia, no more rocking the boat Ernst, you have my word.

19 February 2011 at 13:25  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

I shall stop poking my big hooter in also

19 February 2011 at 13:30  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Operative 0666 19 February 2011 13:25

Hmm..Maybe I was too harsh on you, for holding that simple, lancastrian mentality against you, whereas it is obviously a great asset!

I predict great things for such a chap in our organisation.

Congratulations, I will send Mr Osato across the bridge in your place. He, most unfortunately, has a fear of piranha's but my orders must be obeyed.

Welcome back Operative 0666


19 February 2011 at 13:32  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Operative 0666 19 February 2011 13:32

Agent Hobgoblin Scaramouche, no need to be ashamed of the 'Hooter', it is a distinct advantage when operating covertly for SPECTRE on Halloween.

You are a fine asset for the organisation.

My I call you Shrek?


19 February 2011 at 13:37  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Bred in the bone said...
"I shall stop poking my big hooter in also"

Well may have something to say Big Nose!

19 February 2011 at 13:41  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

I'm not too small to stick the nut on the lot of you if you can't play nice.

19 February 2011 at 13:45  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Operative 0666 19 February 2011 13:41

Agent Hobgoblin Scaramouche, your attempts to gain a separate wage for each of your personalities on display or future apparitions has fallen on stony ground.

That you enjoy wearing foreign ladies clothing will not be held against you, as precedent has already been made for agent DanJO La Rue Operative ;-)1010. However, feather boa's are not exempt. There is always place for a malignant 'height challenged individual'..Yes, HR have asked me to call the midget this..political correctness everywhere!!

HR have been notified of your 'Issues'.


19 February 2011 at 13:53  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Operative 0666 19 February 2011 13:41

Never forget the SPECTRE ethos.

"Sarcasm is the sincerest form of degradation"!

Number One

19 February 2011 at 14:04  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ Maturecheese (11:09)—appeasement is the name of the game where Islam is concerned.

Islam is appeased because of the violence that is perpetrated by a few Muslims and because Muslims in general, having a strong group instinct and revelling in their victimhood, kick up a stink at any perceived slight to themselves or their religion.

The ruling classes, being craven inadequates, rush to favour Islam while sidelining and persecuting peaceable Christianity, with the result that the Islamic bully is wiping his feet all over the Christian doormat.

19 February 2011 at 14:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tolerant Islam, the religion of Peace ? What a joke !!

19 February 2011 at 14:15  
Blogger srizals said...

Wake up Johnny, Iraq and Afghanistan are/were bullied by Christian nations. Palestinians were bullied by Zionist Jews with the support of Zionist wannabe in the USA and the UK. No, I'm not claiming any victimhood. Muslims deserved Christian’s hostility. Most Muslim worlds were bullied by your country for years, remember?

As for stoning of adulterers, they can only be stoned to death if they were caught in the act by 4 pious men that witnessed the insertion of the man into the woman, both willingly and had the experience of being a husband and a wife. And Muslims are not allowed to help the devil over his fellow Muslims and they are not allowed to find the faults of their brothers and sisters. Can you sense the tricky part of this sentence now? Its purpose is as a deterrent to lustful men and women that can’t keep themselves in their own rightful pants. Why did they do it illegally anyway? Get married and be blessed with beautiful children from such a beautiful relationship. Why do people like to change such a beautiful gift of love into a hideous and revolting act of sexual lunacy? Is it because the love of killing babies in their wombs, in the millions? Or the adrenaline rush they get in tempting deadly human viruses?

Who deserves death?

The innocent hapless babies or the able and thinking adults? Should we be referring to the Bible in the case of stoning? Never mind. Most Christians are non-practising Christian anyway. It’s the Judaeo Christian heritage I think. That is why Jews are allowed to pray in mosques by their rabbis. They are not allowed ever to pray in churches. I wonder why. Maybe D. Singh has some ideas.

19 February 2011 at 14:48  
Blogger srizals said...

Since bullying is your favourite subject Johnny, I wonder what would you think about this,

"Contrary to the common perceptions about the Inquisition—that it lasted only a brief period during the Dark Ages—Nini’s group decoded part of the graffiti that dated back to 1759. Symbols of doves (Jesuits), attempting to survive the interrogations of hawks (largely those in the Dominican order who had been given the task if carrying out the Inquisition) had been mixed with Bible verses, dates, designs."

19 February 2011 at 15:50  
Anonymous Sage said...

I prefer the term "anti-Christianism" to the term "Christianophobia".

19 February 2011 at 16:47  
Anonymous Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

The funny moustached icon says 19 February 2011 15:50

Is it really possible that I considered you superior to operative 0666 Agent Hobgoblin Scaramouche, aka Bred in the bone.

My sincerest apologies, operative 0666

Meglomaniacs have bad days too.

Srizals, more like Ninkumpoop methinks!


19 February 2011 at 17:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least you have the ability to think Mr. Blofeld and it's a blessing indeed, for a person like you.

19 February 2011 at 17:43  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ srizals (14:48 and 15:50)—Halo srizals. Silly me, I was forgetting that Muslims can do no wrong: ‘You are the noblest nation that has ever been raised up for mankind. You enjoin justice and forbid evil. You believe in Allah.’ (Qur’an 3:110)

As usual, it’s all the fault of the infidel. It must be great being part of a blame culture; much easier on the conscience than our guilt culture.

19 February 2011 at 17:44  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Maturecheese & Johnny Rottenborough: you tell it the way it is!

Apropos Sage @ 16:47:

I agree, 'Christianophobia' sounds like some dress-designer!

Srizals - welcome back! Have you been holidaying? I've missed your inimitable piffle! I don't see much 'stoning'going on where muslims are busy targeting non-muslim women ... one wonders why?

19 February 2011 at 17:55  
Anonymous srizals said...

The truer a Muslim can be to himself, the less margin of error he'll commit, Johnny. No man is perfect. Remember, a Muslim is also an ordinary human being, just like you. Let's not tempt him to the dark side of violence by killing his helpless kin and ravaging his weak and fragile nations like a bully based on obvious lies while threatening him with isolation, banishment and unfriendly gestures. We didn’t do that to our Christian minorities and other oil-rich Christian countries, why should you? We don’t like bullies, right?

Repent and all shall be safe and sound, just like before the killings of Iraqis, Afghanis and Pakistanis in the tens of thousands in the search of the grail of lies. No Muslims killed the British by the act of terror because of Palestinians over Palestine. Only the Zionist Jews dared to kill the British on the Holy Land with US funding, remember? If you can accept the death of British in the hands of the terrorist Zionists, why can’t you accept the death of British in the hands of Muslims who are only defending their beloved motherland? At least, try to kill the warriors only. Show mercy and limitation in your wonderful skills of destruction, maybe then you'll be shown some by the ones that try to outsmart the invaders in a deadly game of terror. Can we kill without the fear of being killed too? I wonder.

19 February 2011 at 18:15  
Anonymous srizals said...

Glad you didn't see so much stoning going on in Muslim nations, Oswin. That should tell you something. Can't say the same regarding the abortion industry in the West though. Not everyone is that lucky. The beginning of the year is always quite taxing for me. I am after all, only human.

What do you mean by 'where Muslims are busy targeting non-Muslim women?' Care to elaborate?

19 February 2011 at 18:26  
Anonymous Oswin said...

srizals me old mucker, I would elaborate, but I'm useless at posting links; perhaps someone else might kindly oblige?

19 February 2011 at 18:42  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ Oswin and srizals—Just a few recent stories:

‘Sexual predators’: Gang of Asian men weep as they are jailed for total of 32 years for abusing white girls as young as 12—Daily Mail

Top detective blasts ‘culture of silence’ that allows Asian sex gangs to groom white girls... because police and social services fear being branded racist—Daily Mail

White girls seen as ‘easy meat’ by Pakistani rapists, says Jack Straw—The Guardian

19 February 2011 at 18:55  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Thanks Johnny, I hoped someone with the necessary nous would lend a hand. Ta.

19 February 2011 at 19:05  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

I this any help Oswin.

19 February 2011 at 23:01  
Anonymous Seth said...

HG should be starting to realise by now that smooth Mr Cameron is a greater dissembler than Mr Blair and seems incapable of saying one thing without doing the precise opposite.

How can he condemn multiculturalism yet promote the most multicultural policy ever - on schooling - which will generate mutual incomprehension and loathing not seen in this nation for 500 years?

There is no coherence in this government's policy, unless it is to divide and rule.

So much for One Nation.

20 February 2011 at 09:39  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Islamophobia - a convienient political construct if ever there was one...

21 February 2011 at 09:02  

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