Tuesday, March 08, 2011

ENGAGE blasts the ‘idiot Cameron’


ENGAGE (aka iENGAGE) is an initiative designed to improve British Muslim representation and participation in British media and politics. There is, quite arguably, a place for such an organisation in today's society to counter some of the more irrational manifestations of prejudice against Muslims, which ought to have no place in an enlightened liberal democracy. Its Project Director is Shenaz Bunglawala, who is also the Vice-Chair of the Europe and International Affairs Committee of the Muslim Council of Britain.

ENGAGE supports the work of the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Islamophobia, which was formed last year
To investigate the forms, manifestations and extent of prejudice and discrimination against Muslims in the UK today. To review the effectiveness of all legislation with a view to improving the rate of success in the prosecution of hate crimes. To review existing mechanisms for the recording of anti-Muslim hate crimes both through police forces across the country and through third party reporting sites with a view to improving data quality and comprehensivity. To investigate and review the role of the media in fostering mutual respect and tolerance and guarding against misrepresentations of Islam and intolerance towards Muslims.
The Parliament website confirms that ENGAGE acts as the group’s secretariat, and names Shenaz Bunglawala and its Head of Research.

There has been quite a lot of reasoned opposition (see here, here, here and here) to this APPG appointing ENGAGE as its secretariat, as they are supposed to be responsible for advising members, arranging meetings, organising investigations, writing draft reports, overseeing publications and generally keeping track of its day-to-day activities.

The secretariat for the APPG on Islamophobia would, quite reasonably, need to be beyond reproach as regards racism and anti-Semitism. It needs to be sufficiently independent to perform the necessary functions of a secretariat to the all-party group, for any partiality or association with those forces and groups which give rise to a reasoned and rational ‘Islamophobia’ would undermine the efforts of the APPG and do a disservice to all British Muslims, on whose behalf ENGAGE purports to speak and for whose benefit the APPG exists. All of those associated with an APPG secretariat ought to manifest a civil-service type of political neutrality, and certainly project respect for our elected representatives and maintain certain standards of parliamentary propriety.

Inayat’s Corner is the pulpit of Inayat Bunglawala, the media secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain. (He shares a surname with the Project Director and Head of Research of ENGAGE – is it a family affair?). He has been criticised by the PCC and accused of being racist and anti-Semitic; he rails against ‘Zionist tactics’ and ‘Israeli oppression of the Palestinians’; opposes UK and US foreign policy in Afghanistan and Iraq; spoke out against the banning of Hizb ut-Tahrir under the new UK anti-terror laws; and seems particularly fond of certain Islamic radicals like Sheikhs Omar Abdel-Rahman and Yusuf al-Qaradawi.

He is highly critical of any article about him which he deems to be ‘sloppily and irresponsibly written’, and which is based on ‘completely inadequate research and fact-checking’, and is clearly more than a little sensitive about preserving his good name and reputation.

He is not, however, averse to libeling others. When he is called an ‘extremist’, he instructs Carter-Ruck; when he calls them ‘Islamophobic’, they are mature enough to respect a personal opinion and freedom of expression.

Yet Inayat Bunglawala is of the view that the Prime Minister is an ‘idiot’ for opposing state multiculturalism and speaking out against Islamist extremists.

This cannot be sloppy or irresponsible writing, for Mr Bunglawala eschews shoddy journalism. His thesis must be well-researched and entirely fact-based. Like ENGAGE, he is undoubtedly expert, dispassionate and representative of British Muslims.

“Ah, Dr Cranmer,” Mr Banglawala interjects, “Inayat’s Corner is quite independent of ENGAGE. My sister, Shenaz, directs its activities, while my Corner is simply my opinion, to which I am entitled.”

“Indeed so, Mr Banglawala. Indeed so,” His Grace politely replies. “But is it not a point of interest, at least to Conservatives on the APPG on Islamophobia, that the brother behind the sister who runs its secretariat refers to their leader (in a headline, too) as an ‘idiot’?”

“Ah, Dr Cranmer, you bearded oaf,” snorts Mr Banglawala, “There is no association between ENGAGE and Inayat’s Corner. Indeed, my Corner is simply where I share my love of books, movies and gossip!"

“Quite so, Inayat (if His Grace may). Quite so. But the (i)ENGAGE website is rather elusive on the small matter of who runs it: indeed, it gives no indication that even your sister is behind it. Yet the URL domain name iengage.org.uk is registered to one Inayat Bunglawala. It surely can be no coincidence – ”

“Ah, Dr Cranmer, you islamophobic, bigoted kaffir,” splutters Mr Banglawala, “That is ENGAGE or IENGAGE or whatever it's called, and nothing at all to do with my private Corner where I do my own private thing and express my own private views. I think your Mr Cameron is an idiot: that is my personal opinion, based on rigorous, fact-based research. It is not the opinion of the Secretariat for the APPG on Islamophobia.”

“Ah, Inayat, dear chap,” His Grace intones, “The Internet WHOIS service reveals that iengage is registered to you, and so, clearly, is Inayat’s Corner. So when you refer to the Prime Minister as an ‘idiot’, it is an opinion expressed on behalf also of your sister and ENGAGE, for the three are manifestly one.”

For the sake of Parliament, the wellbeing of British Muslims and the peace and security of the realm, the APPG on Islamophobia must sever all ties with the partisan attack-dog ENGAGE, and appoint a credible, impartial and respectable group to run its affairs. It is not appropriate that a man obsessed with Jews, Zionism and the propagation of an Islamist agenda should be furthering his cause vicariously through his sister.

44 Comments:

Blogger starcourse said...

Quite

8 March 2011 at 11:25  
Anonymous inayat said...

"So when you refer to the Prime Minister as an ‘idiot’, it is an opinion expressed on behalf also of your sister and ENGAGE, for the three are manifestly one.”

I am afraid your Grace has allowed the concept of the Trinity to cloud his thinking here. We three are not one. For I, and I alone, am Inayat. Salaam!

8 March 2011 at 12:28  
Blogger Gnostic said...

They don't like it up 'em do they. Keep up the good work, Your Grace.

8 March 2011 at 12:57  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am afraid your Grace has allowed the concept of the Trinity to cloud his thinking here. We three are not one. For I, and I alone, am Inayat. Salaam!"

This is very true, of course. The one and only Inayat is a dullard as can be seen from his blog. All the marginally intelligent stuff is written by his little sis: the real brains in the Bunglawala family!

8 March 2011 at 13:01  
Anonymous yarnesfromhorsham said...

Your grace - so apposite. But why do our political class allow themselves to be so taken in? Could it be fear, lack of both moral and political fibre. It appears to me that people coming to live in this country are welcomed if they intend to integrate. However if they what to "play away" by enjoying our advantages but overlaid with their principles and values then perhaps they should rethink their priorities and return whence they came.

8 March 2011 at 13:03  
Anonymous Paul said...

The truth shall set us free. Muslims do not like being criticized or taken to task-period. Keep up the good work !

8 March 2011 at 13:22  
Anonymous Hospitable Scotsbachelor said...

What can you expect from someone who looks upon the wretched Blair as a role model?

8 March 2011 at 13:34  
Anonymous LibertyPhile said...

Could Mr Bunglawala, who, apparently isn’t his sister, or anyone else for that matter, please explain why the ENGAGE domain is registered in his name.

And why a complaint to the PCC documented on the ENGAGE website records him as “Inayat Bunglawala, Advisor on Research and Policy for ENGAGE”.

8 March 2011 at 13:38  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

When you suggest that a lot of what is said about Islam is irrational and possibly Islamaphobic, I ask two questions.

Would you feel safe if this country became Islamic?

Won't this country become Islamic eventually if the current demographic forecasts are true?

8 March 2011 at 13:57  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

With Britain having received so many blessings from Islam—halal slaughter, forced marriage, female genital mutilation, electoral fraud, inbreeding, divinely sanctioned wife-beating, honour crime, terrorism, polygamy, veiling, segregated swimming and shari’ah law—it is a great sorrow to learn that there is prejudice towards Muslims and that the poor dears are subject to discrimination.

Total and absolute blame clearly lies with non-Muslims. Shame on us.

8 March 2011 at 13:58  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

The mere fact that governments past and present recognise 'British Muslims' as some kind of separate political and cultural group, different and independent from the rest of the British people, is to recognise that we have in the UK, a State within our State. This is an abhorent manifestation without precedent in our history. The single long term objective for the proliferation of global Islamic dominance is ignored by domestic and European politicians and continues to fly unchallenged in the face of true democratic principles.

These unelected wallahs to whom our governments suck up, hold no genuine credentials to represent anyone. In this country we used to have pride in upholding the priciple of democratic enfranchisement through the principle of one person one vote. This provided legitimate citizens with the right to representation through their elected member in Parliament whatever their race or creed.

The supplantation in to our electoral constituencies of largely illiterate muslim immigrants, with their propensity for tribal block voting, coupled with their vulnerability to coersive methods from corrupt power seekers from amongst their kind, has made our elections in the UK and Europe a public joke and has fostered a culture of muslim vitimhood and ghettoisation.

Today it seems, the muslim minorities have more claim to supra-representation than the rest of the population, with the net result that the turnout at the ballot boxes falls far short than is healthy for the long term future of Great Britain plc or of Western Democracy in general.

8 March 2011 at 14:03  
Anonymous MrJ said...

In a fit of fairness (supposedly taken overseas from cricket fields of England) MrJ would expect an umpire to see that the denialism or dissembling which is being pointed to here has not been unknown in this country and elsewhere long before Mr Inayat Bunglawala favoured us (26 September 2008) with his reflections on Salman Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses, in a Guardian newspaper article. It included:

"...Just over a year ago, I wrote a Cif piece arguing that it was time to admit that those of us who had called for the book to be banned or pulped were wrong. Utterly wrong. It was understandable why many regarded and still do regard passages in The Satanic Verses to be so offensive, but that could not be used as a justification to try and prevent others from reading the book.... Let Rushdie, Jones and co write as they please. Muslims are likewise at liberty to use those very same freedoms to promote their own understanding of the mission of the Prophet Muhammad." (source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/26/islam.religion)

The article does not mention that soon after the publication of that novel, the British public were shocked and appalled to hear of the "fatwa" against its author (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Satanic_Verses_controversy#Fatwa_by_Ayatollah_Khomeini),

and this may have startled many of them to gain a fresh insight into Islam in the world around us, near and far. Who can say upon how many it made an indelible impression, not least upon those who are not regular readers either of the novel's author or of the "Guardian" newspaper.

8 March 2011 at 14:52  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

The Jews have representation the muslims have representation.

As a matter of fact eurojewcong says muslims and jews are uniting against racism, or uniting to take our homelands off us in other words.

Where is a European Congress?

Majority rights!

8 March 2011 at 16:57  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Cracking piece Your Grace, but I'm at a something of a loss as to what might constitute an ''irational manifesation of prejudice against muslims'' as the truth alone seems bad enough. Why would anyone need to exaggerate, or invent?

8 March 2011 at 17:00  
Anonymous Oswin said...

'r' grrr

8 March 2011 at 17:01  
Blogger Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

Ernst's fondest and most favourite reprobate slurred 8 March 2011 16:57

"As a matter of fact eurojewcong says muslims and jews are uniting against racism, or uniting to take our homelands off us in other words."

Ernst thinks that half drunk pint of Natterjack in your hand has gone straight to your noodle, young man.

Try Innocent fruit juices (Not a plug or comments placement advert, Your Grace), kills less brain cells in those who can scarce afford to loose many more, there's a clever boy..

Your Caring Supreme Leader

E S Blofeld

8 March 2011 at 17:20  
Anonymous Gordo said...

Surely "kuffar" not "kaffir"? A kaffir is a differnet thing. Or were you being ironic?

8 March 2011 at 17:30  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Those bungalow wallah types don't half betray superiority complexes. Talk about "thinking you're the Great I Am"!

Every time they open their mouths they try to take control - of the interlocutor. Fortunately, English defeats them every time:)

8 March 2011 at 17:48  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...
"Try Innocent fruit juices (Not a plug or comments placement advert, Your Grace), kills less brain cells in those who can scarce afford to loose many more, there's a clever boy.."

Stick to living in your incorporeal fantasy theres clever dick.

8 March 2011 at 18:04  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The very fact that Inayat Bunglawala is still on his soap box and its getting 'bigger' tends to suggests the opposite of your theory that "There is, quite arguably, a place for such an organisation in today's society to counter some of the more irrational manifestations of prejudice against Muslims" should be applied.

Is this not just a mix of appeasement and addressing the result of the problem, not the cause?

Surely if would be more fair if muslims were only given the same voice as sikhs, hindus, buddhists, roman catholics etc, not some preferential seating that only serves to puff their self importance; and Bungawala is a prime example of this.

I find it quite illogical and somewhat bizarre that Cameron & Clegg hand wring about the importance socialist equality and then give this one sect preferential treatment and rights over everyone else!

8 March 2011 at 18:36  
Anonymous Sage said...

David Cameron may be wrong on certain issues but he is not "an idiot". But I'd like to know if Inayat Bunglawala agrees that he is "a man obsessed with Jews, Zionism and the propagation of an Islamist agenda".

8 March 2011 at 18:51  
Blogger Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

My annoyed little Lancastrian said

My Dear boy.

It appears that the golden nectar has curtailed whatever humour resided in that bone of your's.

Ernst is merely pointing out that you appear to see conspiracies everywhere.

E S Blofeld



hgrraa..uoy dniheb tsinoiz gnidleiw exa dam a s'ereht tub won kool t'noD

8 March 2011 at 18:52  
Blogger LeucipottomySpoon82 said...

Ernst Stavro Blofeld and Bred in the Bone, you're both getting off topic again and going to get told off by Sir...again. You should be good boys like I am and not argue with anybody :s :p

(I was going to write this in binary but it got a bit long-winded that way.)

8 March 2011 at 19:11  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Ernst Stavro Blofeld said..."Ernst is merely pointing out that you appear to see conspiracies everywhere."

My dear Mr Magoo chap, you should of gone to specsavers (Not a plug or comments placement advert, Your Grace), other brands are available.

8 March 2011 at 19:16  
Blogger Ernst Stavro Blofeld said...

BITB bitterly retorted 8 March 2011 19:16

What can I say about a person who uses my own jokes against me?

You Cad Sir! .... but you have my sneaky heartfelt admiration, my boy.
What a fine fellow you are even if you are from said County.
No ones perfect, bar ONE.

E S Blofeld

8 March 2011 at 19:47  
Anonymous not a machine said...

mmm clearly not a hardline eurosceptic group , so cant really believe a word of it :).
However good start for them I mean why not call the elected prime minister an idiot , if your a group seeking to adress issues , bound to get you an invite to no10 with an benign middle of the road image Islamophobic group .

8 March 2011 at 20:25  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

LeucipottomySpoon82 said...
"Ernst Stavro Blofeld and Bred in the Bone, you're both getting off topic again and going to get told off by Sir...again."

Quite right, do apologise, you give em shit Cranmer we have all had enough, I am writing a letter as we speak to the Mulsim Council of Britainistan and sending it by Royal Mails, Special Air Service.

8 March 2011 at 21:31  
Anonymous not a machine said...

It appears the BBC have new religion reporter (not sure if it is head) , who is an athiest , however if that doesnt surprise her studies of the competetion for yawhe becomming the god of the Isralites are as good as the x files .As for the story of the universe I half wondered if viewing would require not HD but cannabis , I dindnt quite understand his explanation of the second law of thermodynamics , for whilst it describes entropy , and that things decay into lower energy states , it didnt explain why complex living things exist at all . True we may be made of stuff forged in the stars , planets may form on gas disc , as a star is born , and being in just the right spot gives the right temperature for biology to occure , but why biology doesnt just remian in a state of entropy and produce nothing more uber effiecient than strands of nucleic acids , was washed into the awesome background of our mathematical place in the universe.

Strange that voyager picture of a tiny blue dot , and yet perhaps through religion it has asked the questions that made the science that produced that photo. Can some science programs be called biased , or was Fred Hoyle the last to risk his reputation.

8 March 2011 at 21:37  
Blogger English Viking said...

Can His Grace see the 'disconnect' between his previous post and this one?

Probably not.

8 March 2011 at 22:20  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

… to counter some of the more irrational manifestations of prejudice against Muslims, which ought to have no place in an enlightened liberal democracy.

When His Grace can point to the enlightened liberal democracies of the Islamic world, little Johnny will immediately cure himself of his rational prejudice against Islam and its foot soldiers.

8 March 2011 at 23:30  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"As for the story of the universe I half wondered if viewing would require not HD but cannabis [...]"

I liked it. Mostly for the way it gave the impression of deep time and cosmic distance. And us, a brief, brief flash on a tiny, tiny part of the whole. All said with a Lancashire accent. :)

9 March 2011 at 05:42  
Anonymous len said...

Web definitions for islamophobia
prejudice against Muslims; "Muslim intellectuals are afraid of growing Islamophobia in the West"


I wonder why that is? Just to tack'phobia 'on the end of Islam or whatever you are trying to force the public to accept is seen as a 'fait accompli'but it is merely an attempt to manipulate guilt feelings for those who oppose them!.
Some things SHOULD be opposed ,do not let yourselves be deceived into accepting things which your conscience tells you to oppose!.
Political Correctness is a brainwashing technique which works by controlling speech which in turn controls thought.Orwell`s 1984 reveals how this process works!

9 March 2011 at 08:20  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"Orwell`s 1984 reveals how this process works!"

But it doesn't really. There's clearly a link between language and conceptual thought since conceptual thought is expressed in language. However, Orwell relied on Newspeak, a tightly controlled language with a small number of words and reduced grammar, in his story to stop people using alternative language to express ideas. We use natural language here, which clearly evolves, and allows things like metaphors and similes. It's tin foil hat stuff to think we're in an Orwellian world because there is some social pressure against expressing certain thoughts or ideas.

9 March 2011 at 09:05  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“idiot Cameron”

True.

9 March 2011 at 14:39  
Anonymous len said...

Danjo,
How many word are NOT PC,

And how many ARE?

When did the words Islamophobic , homophobic, etc come into use?

The brainwashing technique plainly works better on some than others! In fact a generation is growing up who will accept accept 'facts' when presented to them without question.
This is the whole point and purpose of the'brainwashing process'.A malleable ( some would call gullible )population.

9 March 2011 at 18:05  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"This is the whole point and purpose of the'brainwashing process'.A malleable ( some would call gullible )population."

Unlike in the past when, say, when priests interpreted religion for the people and religion determined the course of people's lives?

9 March 2011 at 18:44  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nuff sai , then. The past is demolish. . . . . . .

9 March 2011 at 20:33  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

enow sai , en . The past i demolish ....

9 March 2011 at 22:37  
Anonymous len said...

Danjo,
You would have to expound a lot more on your statement to make any sense to me.
I am not familiar with religion, just a humble disciple of Jesus Christ.

9 March 2011 at 23:41  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

"You would have to expound a lot more on your statement to make any sense to me."

No problem. Have a look at John Wycliffe and the Lollards, with their pre-Reformation thinking. The common Bible, you see, was written in Latin and that was the language of the clergy. As you may be aware, there was pressure to have it translated into common language so that literate people could read it for themselves thus potentially removing the clergy from their cherished position of religious interpreter between man and god. Your words about brainwashing and a generation (many generations in this case) growing up accepting religiously-inspired 'facts' from the clergy without questioning them rings rather true. We're alot more questioning and cynical these days now the clergy is out of the way.

10 March 2011 at 02:28  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

Luckily, Wycliffe died naturally. That didn't stop them digging his bits up and burning them for heresy of course.

The Lollards, bless them, were End of Days people too. Over six hundred years ago.

10 March 2011 at 02:35  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are you proud of cynicism?

What happened to the other guy, the one who thinks human life's so wonderful?

What happened to the atheist -who couldn't possibly bless anyone?

What do you mean, End of Days People?

What makes you think the Revolting Peasants hadn't any questions ... even of the kind that might bring your trolling back onto His Grace's track?

10 March 2011 at 05:01  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

What happened to your moniker?

Cynicism is a trait I think is worth cultivating in certain environments and over certain subjects. It gives one power over charlatans for starters.

Human life, and the universe in general, is indeed wonderful. No change there in my attitude. I'm constantly surprised lots of the religious don't see it as wonderful as it is.

The phrase "bless them" is a colloquialism but even if it were not then giving someone one's blessing need not be a religious thing at all. Your comment is barrel-scraping there, I think.

I'll leave the End of Days thing to you to look into yourself as I think it is an obvious tag.

As for peasants questioning, I was speaking in the general sense and relating it to what Len originally said about today's generation. Contextual, you see.

As for trolling, you've said that to me before I reckon. Again, ideas and assertions and themes need to be challenged and discussed. His Grace has made his Bottom Line available. If you see that as trolling then, well, hard luck. It is no more trolling than His Grace's polemics themselves.

Hope this helps.

10 March 2011 at 07:31  
Anonymous len said...

Danjo,
For once I agree with you!
Catholicism has distorted the Gospel and used the Latin language(only used by a select few) to conceal this fact.
This is why the publishing of the Bible in common language carried the death penalty and many suffered it!.
I desire only the truth and the shortfalls of religion should be exposed.
Islam also has its 'own version' of Christianity.
To me this doesn`t detract from the truth of the|Gospel only exposes the deceptions of men who would distort the Gospel to gain power over and to manipulate unsuspecting people for their own ends.
I do not have a 'blind faith',I question everything and I advise others to do the same.
.........
The 'end of days' will actually be the end of a 'World System.'
When did the "end times" begin? At the cross of Jesus Christ at Calvary when sin was defeated and Satan could no longer hold sinners in captivity. Christ freed mankind from the penalty of sin but the presence of sin is still here, alive and very apparent. Satan's defeat has not been finalized and he is still allowed to rule the present world system. Mankind still has the same choice that Adam and Eve had: Believe and trust in God (accepting Jesus's sacrifice on the Cross for their sins) or believing Satan's lies (rejecting the Cross, and the Gospel ).This World System ruled by Satan will come to and End and this is laid out in Bible prophesy for those who search for the Truth with a genuine desire to know the Truth.

10 March 2011 at 08:08  

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