Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Holy Wednesday: selfishness, greed, betrayal

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before
(Mt 24:14-25).

Even as Jesus was enlightening the masses with a little sermon on the Mount of Olives, Judas was preparing to betray him. Why? How can you spend so much time in a man’s company and not get the measure of his character? How could Judas not know? How could he not believe? How could he not trust? The reason is that he did not love: or that he loved himself, his ambition and money more. Judas is one of those friends who aren’t friends: you know the sort – the superficial hangers-on; those who like to be seen with you or use you for their own ends; those who boast and name-drop, whose every conversation becomes a discourse about them. The world of politics is full of such people. They profess eternal friendship and mouth their undying loyalty while they plot to stab you in the back: as one great person observed, it is treachery with a smile.

Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him.
And from that time he sought opportunity to betray Him
(Mt 26:14-16).

As long as Judas lined his pocket, he never paused to consider the consequences for Jesus. That would have been an act of love, yet his heart was consumed with selfishness, greed and exploitation. Friends are God’s gift of love: they are there to nurture and support, and also to correct and rebuke. On this Holy Wednesday, let us thank God for them, and reflect on forgiving those who have betrayed us – politically and religiously – even if they have caused to cry a whole river of heartache and hurt.


Blogger gildas said...

An interesting topic, because if one reads the Gospel of Judas (and it is quite real - it was suprresed but a copy has been found) Judas is ordered by Jesus to betray because it is necessary for his divine purpose. A rather different take!

20 April 2011 at 10:59  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Tiri Ke Kinawa makes a good curtain raiser, but members of the audience may find the "Up next" (with sub-titles) at least as moving.

20 April 2011 at 11:20  
Anonymous Tom said...

Gildas, do you have a particular source of evidence connecting to your comment? I'm not questioning the validity (claimed or otherwise) of your statement, but some context would be nice.

If Jesus had 'ordered' Judas to betray Him, then surely there would not have been any betrayal in Judas' actions and if that was the case then why was Judas 'seized with remorse' (Mt 27:3) to the degree that he hung himself?

20 April 2011 at 12:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace, I welcome your Holy Week meditations but the artwork today and yesterday is a tad antisemitic.

I know many Christian artists have depicted Jesus as a whimpy blond with blue-eyes and all his contemporaries as hook-nosed swarthy types but we know better.

If Isaiah 53:2 is anything to go by our Lord was no stunner but we aren't saved by good looks but by the blood of the Lamb.

Any chance we can have some graphics that don't look as if Jesus' brethren have stepped out of "Der ewige Jude?"

It is Passover week after all.

20 April 2011 at 13:36  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace

Betrayal is deeply wounding.

We are impelled to forgive: forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those whom we have trespassed against. One of the iron laws of Christianity.

What happens when we don’t forgive like the wicked servant?

It gets worse for us.

‘O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me: Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee? And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses"’.

We are tormented. It just seems so unfair.


And it gets worse!

We block God’s judgment against the fellow who has wounded us. (He wounded Jesus first.)


It is written: ‘Vengeance is mine saith the LORD I will repay’.

And all the time – during the long dark night of the soul – God is refining us for a great purpose.

I find that once we have forgiven it brings great relief to the soul to read out loud (behind the locked doors of the Study) Psalm 23:

1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

Verse 5 is the substance of things not yet seen: He prepares a table in the presence of mine enemies. IN FRONT OF MY ENEMIES!

20 April 2011 at 14:16  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Your Grace, the lady has a voice and knows how to use it. A pleasure to hear in these hard times.

The following is on my 'favorites' list, but it's been a while... thanks for the reminder, Mr. Singh:

20 April 2011 at 14:43  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

non mouse

I do not have access to YouTube. Please be kind to me and explain what is at the end of the hyperlink.

20 April 2011 at 14:56  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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20 April 2011 at 14:56  
Anonymous Voyager said...

This was best conveyed in Mel Gibson's film which is powerful in hearing Aramaic rather than English.....

20 April 2011 at 15:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


What is?

20 April 2011 at 15:13  
Anonymous MrJ said...

One of the above comments (Anonymous) moved me to look again at the image and consider carefully its moral and artistic effect, accompanied by the text, which is today's in the sequence begun on Palm Sunday.

He was betrayed or handed over once, but the most ardent follower may yet deny him, and then feel the pain of remorse: "And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew. And the Lord turned and looked upon Peter..." (Luke 22 60,61)

20 April 2011 at 15:33  
Anonymous MrJ said...

D. Singh 14:56. The text on the link, accompanyng the singing of "The Lord's My Shepherd", is:

"The Lord's My Shepherd, I'll Not Want" first appeared in print in the Scottish Psalter of 1650. This Psalter was assembled by the Westminster Assembly, which also gave us the Westminster Confession and the Book of Common Prayer. In it, portions from various sources were combined to create the beautiful hymn we know today. Though it was well-loved in Scotland, "The Lord's My Shepherd" did not enjoy popularity outside the Church of Scotland for nearly 300 years. It finally appeared in the Methodist Hymnal of 1876 and later the Congregational Hymnal of 1916. But it wasn't included in an Anglican hymnbook until 1965. The hymn version of Psalm 23 remains faithful to David's psalm. Its popularity in England grew in part because of its use during the 1947 marriage ceremony between Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip. Since that time, it's become a well-known hymn, often requested for weddings and funerals today.

20 April 2011 at 15:44  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Yes - As MrJ says... [ty -:) - I was remiss].

20 April 2011 at 16:48  
Blogger Lakester91 said...

But why would Judas do this? I remember hearing that there were several theories behind his actions, the most convincing was the following.

Judas handed Jesus over to the Jewish authorities fully expecting him to be presented to the Romans (only they could order an execution). However, what he didn't expect is that Jesus would actually be crucified.

A lot of Jews of the era assumed that the Messiah was there to overthrow the Romans and secure Israelite independence once again. What was posited to me was that Judas was no different. He thought that Jesus only needed to be pushed in the right direction and never expected him to face his accusers with silence. Perhaps rather than a malicious greedy backstabber, he was a mere fool with pseudo-good intentions (rather a lot like modern politicians).

Feel free to cut the argument up, it is not my own, nor to I hold particular allegiance to it.

20 April 2011 at 17:07  
Anonymous len said...

'Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.'(Luke 22:3)

The reasons why Satan entered Judas are open to speculation.Love of money rather than Jesus? (Judas was the 'purse holder controlling the finances and possibly keeping some for himself.)
Judas sold Jesus for the price of a slave.
Perhaps Judas was just following Jesus for what he could get 'out of it'financially much as some of the 'telly evangelists do today?.

20 April 2011 at 21:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom 20 April 2011 12:54

Although I know not where Gildas gets his source, it is worth remembering even Christ wished this cup could be taken from him.

Yet he knew he had to fulfill his purpose, so it would be understandable if Judas showed remorse for a thing he had to do.

But what is more telling, is the symbolism of the two scapegoats of Yom Kippur and their possible links with Capricorn if we wished to get Hellenistic on the subject.

20 April 2011 at 22:11  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Very wise D Singh, it takes considerbable contemplation to see it that way.

21 April 2011 at 00:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr J

Much appreciated. Thank you.

This phrase is curious:

"Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve." (22:3)

‘When I read this, questions flood my mind: What does it mean "enter"? Why does this happen to Judas? What can Judas be thinking? Does Judas have any control over his actions? Is he responsible? Why does Jesus select Judas if he knows he is untrustworthy? Or did Jesus even know what will happen? These are the big questions that underlie such heavy-duty doctrines as predestination, foreknowledge, as well as the perseverance of the saints, demonization, and a few more. We can't resolve all these questions in a single lesson, if ever. The questions are bigger than we are.

‘But let's begin with the meaning of "Satan enters Judas." Does this imply some sort of demon possession? The word translated "entered" is Greek eiserchomai, "to move into a space, 'enter'."[9] Eiserchomai is a very common word in the New Testament, used regarding evil spirits entering pigs and men and causing a kind of insanity or loss of control (Mark 5:12-13; 9:25; Luke 8:30, 32-33). The verb is also used in John 13:27 at the Lord's Supper: "As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him."

‘If we contend that Satan takes over Judas against his will, then Judas bears no responsibility for his action -- he is an unwilling victim in the same way that an abducted child bears no guilt. But we know that this betrayal is both foretold by Jesus (John 6:70; 13:10-11, 21; Matthew 26:21; Mark 14:18; Luke 22:21) and the person who commits the betrayal is condemned by Jesus (Luke 22:22). "But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born" (Matthew 26:24).

‘Therefore, I conclude that Judas is not an unwilling pawn, and that "Satan enters Judas" is not like demon possession. Jesus built his ministry on casting demons out of unwilling victims. But you can't cast out demons from a person who wants them there; that would require a violation of the will. Modern-day deliverance ministers have found this to be empirically true’.

Dr Ralph L. Wilson

21 April 2011 at 07:24  
Anonymous len said...

'Selfishness, greed, betrayal'is the story of Judas.
But betrayal is also the story of Peter, and the other disciples fled and left Jesus alone at the time of his greatest need.
Selfishness, greed, and betrayal is also those who use the Gospel to gain power, wealth and prestige for themselves.They sit on golden thrones whilst the Son of Man had nowhere to lay His head.

Jesus (God in the Flesh)suffered in His Humanity every evil due to us so He could identify Himself totally with our condition.

So when people ask the question "Where was God in this?".The answer is "Here clothed in Humanity".
So whatever anyone has suffered you have a Saviour who can totally identify with your suffering.

The only One who can have total empathy with our condition, the only one who can redeem us is the One who has stood in our shoes He is not a God who is 'far off' but a God who is here.

21 April 2011 at 07:54  
Anonymous MrJ said...

The attempted diagnosis (ascribed to Dr Ralph L. Wilson) helpfully mentions that the word translated "entered" is Greek eiserchomai, "to move into a space, 'enter'" , but fails to take account of the whole organism of the Gospels and Acts of the Apostles, an unfathomably subtle body of writing. For instance, this moment has been prepared in earlier parts of the narrative (see uses of the term "thief"), and is preparing for Judas "handing over" Jesus as captive of the Temple authorities, which in turn prepares for the events after the discovery of the empty tomb.

[Note about the quoted Dr Wilson: according to, "Pastor Ralph F. Wilson is the director of Joyful Heart Renewal Ministries. He has an intense interest in using the Internet to teach the Bible and train disciples.... an evangelical Christian with an openness to the working of the Holy Spirit in our day. He agrees with the statement of faith of the National Association of Evangelicals... strongly believes in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament as our authority for faith and practice. ... believes in the essential unity of all believers in Jesus the Lord and is non-sectarian in his approach."]

21 April 2011 at 07:57  
Anonymous MrJ said...

D.Singh 7.24: The attempted diagnosis as quoted helpfully mentions that the word translated "entered" is Greek eiserchomai, "to move into a space, 'enter' ", but fails to take account of the whole organism of the Gospels and Acts of the Apostles, an unfathomably subtle body of writing. For instance, this moment has been prepared in earlier parts of the narrative (see uses of te term "thief"), and is preparing for Judas "handing over" Jesus as captive of the Temple authorities,and the events after the discovery of the empty tomb.

21 April 2011 at 08:19  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Unintended repetition at 7.57 and 8.19, either deletable at discretion of resident Archbishop or surrogate.

21 April 2011 at 09:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is one further point I would like to add to a previous post concerning this remark:

‘We block God’s judgment against the fellow who has wounded us. (He wounded Jesus first.)’

What if the fellow who had deeply wounded any one of us confessed his sin, repented, and asked Jesus to forgive him?

Jesus would, I believe, forgive him.

But that seems morally outrageous; ‘after all it was I who has been wounded’. How dare Jesus ignore my feelings and fail to consult me.

But I am ‘afraid’ that is precisely what happens sometimes.

How can God, who we are repeatedly told is just, merciful and compassionate do such a thing?

I think the answer is:

That just before the blow struck me: it winded Jesus first.

There are hundreds of thousands of men and women around the world who read these posts.

If you have taken the life of another; now may be the time (in private) to confess what you have done and ask Him to forgive you.

21 April 2011 at 10:00  
Blogger The Last Dodo said...

The Gospels actually reveal very little about Judas the man and his motives in betraying Jesus. There has been considerable speculation down the ages about this.

Was it 'greed' and 'selfishness' or was Judas expecting a different reaction from Jesus - an earthly Messiah who would instigate a rebellion through the power of his Father?

Judas made his deal before the Last Supper, before Satan entered him. What was he thinking? What was in his mind? I find it hard to accept that Jesus set up his own death. Manipulated it, rather than let the inevitable unfold.

The question for me has always been whether Peter and the other Apostles would have forgiven Judas' betrayal?

Let's not judge Judas - leave that to God. We can't know his mental state, his motives or the extent of his personal responsibility.

21 April 2011 at 22:29  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Dear Bird, it sounds like you could be a devil's advocate for Satan himself and the misdeeds that led to his fall. Go back and read the Synoptic Gospels again, old bird.

Firstly and very importantly, there are only two people in the Bible who are called the “Son of Perdition,” Judas and the Antichrist!!

One important insight we need to notice about Judas was that he called Jesus teacher, he never called Jesus Lord or Master as the other apostles did. His view of how he saw Jesus?
Jesus wanted to be known as Lord, not just teacher (Mk.12:37; Lk.20:42; Jn.9:36-38).
The other 11 disciples wondered what kind of man Jesus was, a man that could calm the sea by a word, feed thousands, heal the blind, lepers and even raise the dead, Judas only ever acknowledged Him as Rabbi/Teacher.

Judas was chosen by Jesus Himself like the other disciples but his position was temporary (Jesus knew what he was doing all along). He was given the job of treasurer but he was secretly a thief. Jesus put Judas in charge of the very thing that would either give flight to his corrupt heart or for his possible repentance, money. Judas often heard Jesus speak on the subject of money but it did not change his heart at all. The capability to reform him was always there but it did not occur because his own heart was not inclined to obey the words of our Lord.

Judas revealed his true feeelings in John 12:2-8. His apparent concern for the poor was to hide his own greed

Yet Judas, who pretends to care for the poor, influenced the disciples to join with him in his rebellious spirit..(Mark 14: 4 & Matt: 26: 8).
The Holy Bible says the Pharisees loved money and so did Judas, this is why they were able to bribe Judas to betray our Lord. They had a common affection!

In John 6:68-71 Jesus’ makes some strong statements that few listeners understood and many began to leave him. He asks the question to his close disciples, the 12, about their departing from Him like the others disciples. But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.” Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. “Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil? “He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve. Jesus knew all along who he was - yet he chose him. It was fulfilling Holy Scripture that cannot be broken..

John !7;12
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

When Jesus said one of them would betray him they all wondered if he was speaking of them. They all said “Lord is it I,” but Judas said teacher. Judas knew it!
Matt. 26:25 'Rabbi, is it I?” He said to him, “You have said it'..Judas wanted to see if Jesus knew what he was doing. Satan had the affront to enter Judas at the last supper (the Passover), right in front of Jesus.
God loves the whole world and at times shows it personally to people yet he has allowed men to reject him and trample underfoot his love and fully knows who they are before they do this to him. We are unworthy of this love, praise His Wonderful Name.

Old Ernsty.

22 April 2011 at 00:31  
Anonymous len said...

Jesus knows what lies in the hearts of men.
Jesus knew Judas would betray Him.
Jesus knew that Peter would deny Him ,but later repent.

It is interesting that Jesus never preached an 'easy Gospel] an easy path to salvation.He might even have seemed to have seemed to have been 'putting some people off'following Him.
Thus Jesus reveals to people (not Himself)their true intentions,their true hearts.Jesus looks through all the sham,all the hypocrisy and sees our true intentions. It is also only Jesus who can change our Heart(if we are willing)

If Jesus is not Lord of all(our Hearts)then He is not Lord at all!.

22 April 2011 at 09:52  
Blogger The Last Dodo said...

E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...
"Dear Bird ..."

Not an advocate of Judas - just think it's all a bit more complicated. It's a big step from avarice to a knowing, wilful betrayal of Christ. Judas' motives for this are certainly not revealed in the Gospels.

What do you make of Judas' remorse?

And Jesus' words to his Father on the Cross for those responsible for his death?

22 April 2011 at 09:53  
Anonymous len said...

We seem to be following a modern concept here where the perpetrator of the crime gets more consideration( and more press) than the victim!.
We might never know why Judas acted as he did.
THE important thing is for people to realise why Jesus acted as He did!.
A Cosmic drama was enacted at Calvary and we must surely focus on Jesus Christ and the message of the Gospel and not get sidetracked!

22 April 2011 at 10:06  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Dear Bird

"It's a big step from avarice to a knowing, wilful betrayal of Christ. " Sometimes it's that simple, even if it is hard to believe how someone can live, eat, sleep beside the Greatest Human who ever lived and was clothed in Divinity as Our God and Saviour.

But Jesus said, “Let her alone; she has kept this for the day of My burial. “For the poor you have with you always, but Me you do not have always.”

Our Lord protected Mary by cutting short the criticism. Jesus saw in Mary’s act a biblical significance- 'she kept this for the day of my burying'. Mary had reserved this precious oil for Christ. She anticipated his death. Mary BELIEVED IN JESUS' WORDS he spoke about this coming; in contrast to many who believed but did not understand, her faith included the work of the Saviour-his death.

One of the reasons Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus is because one of the chief priests “promised to give him money” (Mark 14:10-11).
Reading the Synoptics it seems that Judas was deeply offended by this rebuke from Jesus regarding this expensive oil, which could have prompted him to later strike a bargain with the chief priests to betray Jesus. He was not going to forfeit any money.
Another key point for Judas is hearing Jesus speak about his death, Judas could have looked at his position within the 12 as temporary and wanted to take advantage of it before it ended. The love of money can twist ones good intentions to evil very easily.

Those who were threatened by Jesus wanted him out of the way.
People will do almost anything for money when it is their priority in life. It is very obvious from the remarks afterwards that Judas was never honest about his commitment just as Anannias and Saphirra, he was lying.

"What do you make of Judas' remorse?" , you ask... he did not have a relationship (a two way correspondence of love) with the Lord
Very similar to a criminal in court, sorry he has been caught and brought before it but not for doing the act...Dear boy, whilst the earth is being bombarded by the Almight in the great days of His wrath, the earthdwellers show sorrow but not repentance of their ways..sorrow for their punishment at His Hands but not for their continued rebellion in liason with Antichrist.

How did Judas become one of the 12, see the power and all these miracles and then apostatize? When someone's heart is not right and you give them power it only amplifies what is wrong, not what is right (another example is Peter with Simon the sorcerer). We are also told that Judas did not let the word cleanse him (John 13:10;15:3). He did not abide in Jesus’ teachings, instead he was enticed by the authority to do miracles given to those who followed and his love for the money prevented him from being a servant.

"A Cosmic drama was enacted at Calvary and we must surely focus on Jesus Christ and the message of the Gospel and not get sidetracked!" INDEED.

Old Ernsty, chaps.

22 April 2011 at 12:13  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Dodo 9:53: "... Judas' remorse? And Jesus' words to his Father on the Cross for those responsible for his death?"_Yes

len 10.06: "... Cosmic drama..."_Yes.... "We might never know why Judas acted as he did."_That, like so much, may remain too far behind the veil of earthly understanding. ..."THE important thing is for people to realise why Jesus acted as He did!"_Yes.

22 April 2011 at 12:45  
Blogger The Last Dodo said...

E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...
"Dear Bird ..."

Quite a lot of supposition here, if you don't mind my saying so? I quess if you were one of the Apostles then Judas wouldn't have had much of a chance of foregiveness ot redemption!

len said...
"We seem to be following a modern concept here where the perpetrator of the crime gets more consideration( and more press) than the victim!"

We're all 'criminals' surely? Isn't that the point?

"Father forgive them for they know not what they do."

Just don't think we should presume the damnation of anyone - it's not our place.

22 April 2011 at 12:45  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

len: "A Cosmic drama was enacted at Calvary and we must surely focus on Jesus Christ and the message of the Gospel and not get sidetracked!"

I've always been bothered by the undue focus on the wretched death and suffering on the cross when what you've said is the important bit.

I imagine there are stackloads of people who have queued up at the pearly gates in our history who have died in hideous circumstances.

Also, it's the nature of the animal kingdom that animals die in gruesome circumstances most of the time. The world is predicated on suffering.

What's one more guy on a cross to all that? One guy who absolutely knew for sure what was on the other side of the suffering, more importantly.

The suffering and the only begotten son thing is a side theme. In divine terms, no-one died and the creator is ultimately reponsible for the suffering we all have to bear.

22 April 2011 at 13:07  
Anonymous len said...

Why was the death of one man on the Cross at Calvary important ?
After all thousands of people were crucified (which was a criminals death)a warning to people not to oppose Rome!.Thousand of people have died horrible deaths in the name of religion since( His Graces ashes are still smouldering)
So why was Jesus different?.
EVERY event in Jesus`s life was foretold in Prophesy, no -one else could possible have fulfilled ALL the Scriptures!

In Jesus Christ God brought to an end the old Creation and began a New Creation.
This is the event brought in not with fanfare blasts of Trumpets, but in humility, a Saviour born in a stable ,crucified like a common criminal,despised ,rejected of men. God chose the weak things of this World ,the humble things of this World,because it was men`s pride and lust for knowledge (apart from God )which caused man to fall.
God is not responsible for our wretched condition we are!.Without God`s intervention through Jesus Christ we would be, and remain in , a totally hopeless condition!.God provided redemption,a way out of this hopeless mess through Jesus Christ for all who accept Him.

22 April 2011 at 15:43  

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