Monday, April 25, 2011

Syria: Assad's slaughter of the innocents

WARNING: This video contains graphic images of President Bashar al-Assad's slaughter of his own people in Syria, as they demonstrate against his tyrannical regime and protest for liberty and democracy. DO NOT WATCH THIS VIDEO IF YOU ARE OF A NERVOUS DISPOSITION OR MAY BE OFFENDED BY HIGHLY DISTURBING IMAGES.



Colonel Gaddafi merely threatened to do this in Benghazi and, as a consequence, the Prime Minister decided to send him the way of Saddam. President Assad is actually doing it: this footage is from Good Friday, and dozens more have been slaughtered today. Syrian MPs are resigning in protest. And we do nothing.

Is the life of a Libyan worth more than that of a Syrian?

Thank God for C4 News, who are leading with this story tonight.

51 Comments:

Blogger john in cheshire said...

YG, you will have to enlighten me here. All across the muslim world Christians are being slaughtered and no one gives a damn. So, why should I care that muslims are killing their own. If there was half the reporting on the deaths of Christians and Jews by muslims, then I might just be able to conjure some sense of outrage. But there isn't and my own religion figures more highly than an other, which clearly has been barbaric from its inception. But please, tell me why I am wrong.

25 April 2011 at 16:29  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr John in Cheshire,

When it comes to murder and wholesale slaughter, His Grace's faith is blind. Jesus wept with those who weep, without specifying any conditions. That is why you are wrong.

25 April 2011 at 17:00  
Blogger John Kenzy said...

John,
I'm guessing that you do care and that you are angry.

25 April 2011 at 17:04  
Anonymous Voyager said...

When Daddy Assad killed 40,000 with artillery at Hama in 1982 noone batted an eyelid. Admittedly the battle was to eradicate Sunni Muslims and the Muslim Brotherhood and it looks as if Saudi is mixing it again with arms shipments through Jordan but Syria has key borders with Turkey and Iraq so it will be very interesting....

25 April 2011 at 17:12  
Blogger gyg3s said...

How do you know that this wasn't a 'Sarajevo Market Place Bombing'. It isn't clear to me from the footage that the perpetrators were from the Syrian gov.

Do you have any sort of verification to which we are not privy?

25 April 2011 at 17:21  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr John in Cheshire,

And if you think the notion of weeping with those who weep is too flimsy a theology and too subjective a creed, please read the parable of the Good Samaritan (Lk 10:25-37), and consider that these people are your neighbour, and you are commanded (if you are a Christian) to care very deeply indeed.

25 April 2011 at 17:25  
Anonymous gladiolys said...

"Is the life of a Libyan worth more than that of a Syrian?"

Probably, in terms of oil. You don't expect political leaders to operate on moral principles, surely? Economics is the law that runs the planet now.

Depressing, isn't it?

25 April 2011 at 17:35  
Blogger OldSouth said...

OS survived viewing about the first 1:30. Words fail.

25 April 2011 at 17:46  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

How anyone could watch those images and not have tears streaming down one's face is beyond me. Those poor, poor people. :( :(

25 April 2011 at 17:52  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

‘Believers, obey Allah and the Apostle and those in authority among you’—Qur’an 4:59

Allah orders Muslims to obey their rulers, with the corollary that those who defy the authorities are defying the will of Allah and can expect an appropriate punishment. Should we judge a Muslim country by our standards or by those of Islam?

25 April 2011 at 18:22  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

Yeah - war is messy, but this is not our fight and neither is the Libyan civil war. We have been having our soldiers suffering injuries like this and worse, for the past 10 years or more.

Bring our troops home now, they have given too much already - we never get to see scenes like this but if we did we too would be railing against the government.

25 April 2011 at 18:40  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

HG made this statement:-

"When it comes to murder and wholesale slaughter, His Grace's faith is blind."

I suggest this more a natural state of outrage than a product of 'blind' faith. Does he not hear the continual cries of 'Allah-hu Akba' through out this grisly clip? His sympathies for a suffering fellow human are as one would expect from any decent person and one shared by anyone capable of empathy and compassion, whether of a faith or not.

But,this is Muslim on Muslim; I wonder how many of these Muslims empathised or even cared about the murders of the thousands of 'kuffar', homosexuals, 'adulterers',rape victims and apostates, who have suffered all over the world by the deeds of their Muslim Brothers and the excesses of inhuman Sharia Law.

I lifted the following from HG's cited reference and lo and behold -
..'.Syrian Christians were among the dead. Christians, who make up around 10% of Syria's population of 22 million, are largely supportive of the regime due to fears of a backlash by the Sunni Muslim majority'...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/23/syria-mps-resign-mourners-die

I'm not surprised Cranny would rather go after soft targets like Harris and Dawkins rather than reject the relativist rights of Islam and the Islamists to take root in Europe - the former deal in words - the latter, in vile and bloody actions.

Save your tears YG, for the innocents yet to feel the rage of the Mohammedans.

25 April 2011 at 19:52  
Anonymous not a machine said...

I find my own views on this a little torn , I see arabs fighting for freedom , fed up of both corruption and opression ,grasping and trying to determine a better future based on a form of modern democracy.
Libya ,Syria, Egypt and Tunisia all have the potential to find a path that is better for there people and in other relations .
I then look at Afghanistan Yemen and Pakistan who seem to be in very different position , somehow missing the desire to own democracy coupled with basic ecnomics and education. It may be that some institutional requirement reforms will be different in each country.

Western intervention has sometimes been reactionary ,in part due to the terrorism. In truth some of these countries have hardly progressed at all , so corrupt had they become . Of course as a christian and seeing so many half baked stirrings of western hatred , by the very corrupt people that are making the poor in there own countries in the first place , as not really good enough,which is why Islam seems so dogged to only ever fighting violent and unreasoned squabbles that keep it in its turmoil.
Western power does not seem to give them the tools to see that they may have another path , although many times have we tried to aid better instutions as well as armed force.

I dont think it will return to widespread armed corrupt despotism , but I am of the view that the arabic world has to work at its future ,it must at least try to be honest ,that it had not influenced its workings very well and had missed many decades of modernising ,into the darkness of terrorism and oppression.
Only an arab acceptence and desire to change its goverment sytems and instituitions will stem not only the armed slaughter but the cyclical poverty of education and corruption.
The west is not perfect , but it is obvious that some arabic countries have become stuck and politically stagnant.
It is an arab question and determination , that affects the globe , we hope they can both start and achieve the necessary processes , but if they do not it is no longer the fault of the west , as it is obvious they have not run there countries as well as they could have .

Is a more educated arab world not a worthey aim ,if not then who or what is that aim serving?

25 April 2011 at 20:01  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

Dreadnaught: "I suggest this more a natural state of outrage than a product of 'blind' faith. Does he not hear the continual cries of 'Allah-hu Akba' through out this grisly clip?"

Yes, it is empathy and sympathy and horror rather than faith that triggers a response in my opinion. Possibly both play a part for the religious but one certainly doesn't need faith to feel.

The cries in the clip. It won't play at the moment and I'm not sure I can watch that again but isn't the bloke shouting "Yalla! Yalla!" all the time. That sounds a bit like "Allah" but it actually means "Let's go!" or simply "Go!"

25 April 2011 at 20:06  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

I followed Cranmer’s link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/23/syria-mps-resign-mourners-die
and Lo -
”Local human rights organisations claimed some Syrian Christians were among the dead. Christians, who make up around 10% of Syria's population of 22 million, are largely supportive of the regime due to fears of a backlash by the Sunni Muslim majority... Easter celebrations, in which parades of children and families usually flood the streets of Damascus's old city, have been cancelled...
Are his compassionate tears, however genuine and natural for the plight of these victims, a little premature or perhaps even misplaced?

25 April 2011 at 20:13  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

All aboard the Arc!

The pointed arches of a gothic cathedral are not unlike the architecture of a wooden ship, which has timbers arching downward to the keel. The keel forms the spine down the middle of the bottom of the ship. Take a cathedral or any gothic church, turn it upside down and you get the basic design of a ship.

25 April 2011 at 20:30  
Anonymous Hereward said...

Bred in the bone

That is why it is called a nave.

25 April 2011 at 21:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His Grace is right. We do not know whether the people in the video are innocent--or, if guilty, of what--nevertheless, we pray for the innocent; we know that somewhere in that crowd of anonymous faces must be innocent victims. It appears none of the victims was armed.

I heard a sound like 'allah' too, but I assumed it was something like 'O my God' or 'God help me'--what I would say under the circumstances. Perhaps I'm being fanciful.

25 April 2011 at 22:38  
Anonymous Hexe said...

We could send the current Archbishop of Canterbury along.

25 April 2011 at 23:02  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace,

What happens on foreign soil is of no concern to the Crown, so long as it does not threaten our own interests.

If one is so stupid as to think that, by replacing one bunch of mentalist muslim filth with another, such things as the above posted vid will stop, you're as insane as them.

Give them all guns. The less, the better.

Remember: Every little helps.

I know I am wasting my breath. It's coming soon, to a town near you.

26 April 2011 at 01:15  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace @ 17.00

I know you think little of my opinions, but perhaps you could consider a sense of proportionality?

When did the dirty Methodists crash 'planes into skyscrapers?

Those filthy Brethren are well known for their SemTex, aren't they?

What about the vicious Baptists, constantly beheading folk on You-tube?

Those Orthodox monkeys burning gays?

This is why you infuriate me; you post a week of excellence.

Then you soil yourself with this rot.

26 April 2011 at 01:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YG. We are dealing here with a pagan sense of life. The individual is held to be worthless in such societies. He is the one who submits and yet receives nothing in return. The entire Muslim world is built upon this premise. They will go on killing each other until they awake and reject that which makes them kill each other. Our intervention will only delay their awakening...

26 April 2011 at 01:32  
Blogger Manfarang said...

English Viking
When did the Crusaders slaughter all the inhabitants of Jerusalem?

26 April 2011 at 01:46  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace,

I ask you, and anyone that seriously considers themselves Christian: what did the field look like after Solomon?

What about David?

You're not squeamish, surely?

Will you deny that your faith is dripped in blood?

Either that of your enemy, else that of your God?

'And the women answered [one another] as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, and David his ten thousands.'

Ex 12, 21-23.

26 April 2011 at 02:10  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Thank you for the warning, Your Grace. I have not looked.

The fact of PTSD suggests to me that there is a natural reaction against horror; however, our threshholds of awareness vary.
Experience supports my perception. I never walked without qualm past patients in line at a Casualty Department. Even in agnostic moments, I couldn't understand this reaction about strangers whom I might not otherwise like. Doubtless people like me would respond that way even to the dismemberment of marauding tigers; nevertheless, we'll turn what abilities we can towards amelioration of the ills. Perhaps we are the product of c. 2,000 years of Christian Britain.

Even so, we share the heritage of carnivores who compete with other killers: even for us, common sense and survival must come into the equation. How then should we face the attacks of "humankind" whose brutality surpasses that of wild beasts? For such kind are Legion; their numbers increase.

The sublimation of human sacrifice into Communion is Christ's legacy - those who reject it in favour of bloody 'reality' make their choice. And those generations of Britons who resorted to Old Testament methods to preserve our Holy Isles - for such as me - deserve undying gratitude and admiration. The sacrifice of 'our children' was always a holy matter; for the 'inhuman rites' of alien and enemy causes, it should be out of the question.

So I'd vote to leave today's sickos to it: sub-animals will always kill each other; the pleasure and the rejection of Christian civilization are their own. But if we can no longer summon the spine, the brain, or the fortitude, to secure our borders against them - then I'm with BitB ... float the boat.

26 April 2011 at 02:45  
Anonymous Michal said...

"Is the life of a Libyan worth more than that of a Syrian."

Undoubtedly not. But what do you propose should be done?

26 April 2011 at 02:49  
Anonymous Michal said...

Also thank you for sharing this video. You know, I have frequent disagreements with what you preach but...this is truly terrifying.

26 April 2011 at 02:53  
Anonymous Logo Design said...

War is sad and very alarming because innocent people die. People now don’t realize how precious life is. Preserve and proctect, these are our duty as people not to kill one another.

26 April 2011 at 02:55  
Blogger John Kenzy said...

They shout "God is Great", and quite rightly so. But often, people can behave in ways that bewilder us because they do not have the education, understanding and values that we have, but they are human beings non-the-less. The things they do can make us angry, sad and frustrated, and we say to ourselves, "why should I care?". And the reason we might say this is because, just like them, we are also human. But suddenly, when we say this, we cave-in to the same primitive instincts and fears. We all have the capacity to o this; it's a nightmare trying rise above it.

I really do ask God - "God, what is the answer?" And all I get is silence. Silence. So I examine the silence and realise that I am asking questions about things I already have the answer to. We all of us know the things that we do, and do not want others to do to us. We all know what things that scare us and what things make us happy - and yet we continue to invent rules and write tomes of theological and philosophical shit in order to circumnavigate the truth that is written on our human heart so that we can arrive at the destination having justified our reasons to do the horrible things that we do to each other.

But God really is Great.

26 April 2011 at 05:53  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Some of above comments have been expressing doubt or distaste or dissatisfaction about "Is the life of a Libyan worth more than that of a Syrian?"

It is a question consistent with what all could read, see and hear which HG put here in the days of Holy Week.

It is an uncomfortable question.

Who would answer: a smiting for a smiting?

26 April 2011 at 07:45  
Blogger AncientBriton said...

War is cruel. Any battle scene is likely to be horrific but for sheer revulsion yesterday's Voice Of the Copts post drawing attention to Christians being burned alive in the Gold Coast is amongst the most callous, deliberate acts I have seen. I couldn't watch the whole clip.
http://voiceofthecopts.org/en/islam/ivory_coast_christians_burned_alive.html

We watch daily reports of battles but where are the reports of daily Muslim extremism against the innocents? There was one over Easter. A message from the Prime Minister. He suggests Muslim imams could sit alongside Anglican and Catholic bishops in the Lords.
God help us.

26 April 2011 at 07:46  
Anonymous len said...

There is no such thing as a Democracy in the Middle East.
The Arab leaders have three concepts Power, Honour,and revenge.And their World and their reactions to it seem to circulate between these three.
And until the West understand this and the Power that lies behind Islam we will be at a loss to understand anything going on in the Arab World.

26 April 2011 at 08:22  
Anonymous Atlanta Roofing said...

If the Syrian Government does not put a damper on these demonstrations in the next few weeks, their days are numbered. I guess they also figured this out, because they are now deploying their secret police and the full might of their military to crush all dissent.

26 April 2011 at 08:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ELZk_X6_k&feature=player_embedded

Watch and learn, this lady had the balls to bust into a German Islamist demonstration and tell it like it is, in their faces.

Far more motivating than a video about Syria...

26 April 2011 at 08:42  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

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26 April 2011 at 10:02  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

This UN doctrine ‘Responsibility to Protect’ begs the question: where will it lead?

Ruskies intervening in Gaza?

NORAID?

26 April 2011 at 10:09  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

YG It is indeed sad and shocking but all too common I fear. Sat in the comfort my house I know I can't begin to understand the anguish these people and others in the same boat, are going through.

In response to some of the posts though I say this.
When it comes to my own country I believe we should not get involved in matters that are not our concern and should put our own people (in the true sense) first. We should stop pandering to Islam and only allow it's existence in our country on our terms.

when things like this are said

Muslim imams could sit alongside Anglican and Catholic bishops in the Lords.


I wonder at what point will this madness stop??

26 April 2011 at 10:13  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

No words are adequate.

26 April 2011 at 10:21  
Blogger Jim McLean at Acoustic Village said...

I am stunned at the sense of "outrage" apparently felt here. So we have video footage to help us, here in safety, see what has been happening all over the world on a regular basis since 1970. What exactly are people "outraged" by? Evidence of slaughter? The graphic detail? The fact that human beings are fighting human beings? Leave them all to it. We should get out of any involvement in all middle eastern issues. Let nature take its course. Let us not turn ourselves into MTV / Facebook / morons. As Dylan says..."Take away the rag from your eyes, now ain't the time for your tears"

26 April 2011 at 10:47  
Anonymous bluedog said...

A truly horrific video Your Grace and in common with others, your communicant was forced to turn away, electronically speaking. Clearly those suffering at the massacre had no such choice.

One struggles to retain objectivity in the face of such inhumanity, but is this not another ‘Fort Sumter Moment’ in the start of the Great Muslim Fratricide? Egypt and Libya were one face of the phenomenon, in so far as their uprisings were internal and non-sectarian. As we get geographically nearer to Shiite Iran, the uprising is taking on a sectarian dimension.

We saw this with the Saudi intervention in Bahrain, where the Shiite population were cowed in to submission (massacred) by Sunni Saudi armed forces acting on behalf of the Sunni Bahraini despot. He must be facing Mecca and praying that being a puppet of the House of Saud is a better proposition than trying to win the support of his own population.

By all accounts the Syrian protesters are Sunni. We know that the Boy Assad, the world’s most murderous ophthalmologist, is an Allawite supporter of the Shiite Hezbollah faction in Lebanon. So this Syrian revolt has all the hallmarks of another round in a proxy war between the House of Saud and the Mullahs of Iran.

The Israelis seem to be lying doggo. The Sunni Turks are nowhere to be seen either, but both have borders with Syria and both must wonder, where does this lead?

So to answer His Grace’s question, in the first instance a Sunni Arab Syrian protest group needs to find a reliable patron. But whom? The House of Saud is Sunni and Arab but not democratic at all. The Turks are Sunnis, decidedly non-Arab and definitely democrats.

It looks like the Turks. Only Turkey, a NATO member, can ensure that Syrian democrats are not selling their lives more cheaply that the Libyan resistance.

26 April 2011 at 10:48  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Is the life of a Libyan worth more than that of a Syrian?

Mourir pour Danzig ?

26 April 2011 at 11:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libya has a lot more OIL than Syria.

26 April 2011 at 11:12  
OpenID scottspeig said...

HG, surely your tears should not be for the deaths of people clamouring for democracy (for there is no scriptural basis for democracy - rule of the mob) but at the death of unbelievers who have failed to realise the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ?

Pray tell why I should weep for this situation when more die every day in this country from abortion?#

If I weep for every situation like this, I will certainly not have enough tears!

26 April 2011 at 12:57  
Anonymous prasad said...

The U.S. and other countries have to do something to stop this destruction and killing in Syria otherwise the Syrian forces will so many people who fight against them so the Syrian government leaders should be punished.

26 April 2011 at 13:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over at Commentary Magazine, Max Boot is claiming that a Syrian friend forwarded the tape to him and provided translation:

"What makes it truly wrenching is that all the way the people are shouting "Salmiyeh," which, my friend tells me, is Arabic for "peaceful." It's a way of calling, "We are peaceful" or "We are unarmed." But of course Bashar Assad's goons don't care about that. Imagine the kind of monsters who open fire on peaceful demonstrators."

26 April 2011 at 15:17  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Hereward said...
Bred in the bone

That is why it is called a nave.

25 April 2011 21:28

Yes thats is so, only did you know an Ark is a chest and the spine and arches represnt the sine and ribs.

The first Altar Noah set up was his upturned Ark, the Spine is the Altar and the Well is at its base.

26 April 2011 at 16:37  
Anonymous Voyager said...

The U.S. and other countries have to do something to stop this destruction and killing in Syria

Really ? I don't think so. Maybe Turkey can assist, after all they are local and have a long history in the region. Or France, they created Syria and Lebanon.....but hardly the USA.

26 April 2011 at 17:12  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Manfarang @ 01:46 :

Why were the crusaders there, do you think? Possibly to top up their tans on a cheap package-holiday perhaps?

I have to agree with English Viking; we should leave well alone.

26 April 2011 at 22:37  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. Assad is an Alawite and an ally of the Christians.

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

There is no ethical side you can choose in this game, just your own. And those who sit on the fence will end up torn in two by it's stakes.

27 April 2011 at 18:55  
Blogger Manfarang said...

Oswin
The crusaders built some good castles but they didn't hang on to Jerusalem for long.

28 April 2011 at 02:47  
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