Monday, May 02, 2011

Osama Bin Laden goes to meet Allah

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Heb 10:31).
Osama bin Laden will have a bit of a surprise this morning: no lakes of wine; no endless stream of virgins; no pat on the back from his inspirational prophet; no utterance from Allah of ‘Well done, thou good and faithful servant” (in Arabic). No, today he stands in the fearful presence of YHWH, and the wages of sin is death. Osama Bin Laden has committed one or two sins of some considerable magnitude, was quite unrepentant, and did not accept Christ as his Lord and Saviour. His Grace therefore suspects that things might be a little warm for Osama today. His lake of wine will be a lake of fire: his tongue will burn and his thirst will never be quenched. The only virgins he’ll meet will be the worm variety, for the pit of Hell is a place of decomposition and destruction; of weeping and gnashing of teeth.

On his many journeys across the Middle East, Bin Laden probably never visited the Valley of Hinnom just outside Jerusalem. But he’s enjoying the view today. And it’s not the sort of place from which you’d want to send a postcard or an inspirational video exhorting your Muslim brothers to martyr themselves. It is an awful place of burning sulphur, rotting carcases and dead men’s bones. Bin Laden has gone to the place prepared for the devil and his angels, where the beast and the false prophet will be, to be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

And to those who do not agree with His Grace’s rather literalist understanding of the afterlife, he does not care: he feels better for having conveyed a sense of what it must be to fall into the hands of the living God, without the hope of the salvation of Christ. There is no obituary to write for Bin laden, other than ‘good riddance’. He has reaped simply what he sowed. Justice has been done. The world is all the better for his passing.


Blogger DanJ0 said...

I hope he's not my nextdoor neighbour. :O

2 May 2011 at 08:12  
Anonymous Foleyisgood said...

What if it turns he repented & accepted Christ before he was killed?

2 May 2011 at 08:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What if it turns he repented & accepted Christ before he was killed?"

I have prayed for this.

2 May 2011 at 08:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What utter tripe

2 May 2011 at 08:25  
Anonymous Hayekian said...

Anyone think he's have his 40 virgins?

2 May 2011 at 08:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So to my understanding Islam calls itself a religion of peace, am I right to believe that Christianity calls itself a religion of love?

2 May 2011 at 08:38  
Blogger Kip Hop... It don't stop said...

Your grace, this is an excellent post. If only our current Archbishops and Bishops would publicly pronounce the same from their pulpits rather than trying to mollycoddle the false religion of Islam... I'd vote for you to Bishop/Archbishop/Cardinal/Pope anyday...


2 May 2011 at 08:51  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

The 72 virgins story is symbolic of the 72 names of God in the Zohar and can also be found in Anglo Saxon runic form on the Franks casket in the British museum.

72 runes which are 24 times a magical three, relates to precession of the equinox.

Its not proper today to suppose our dual faith heathen ancestors had such knowledge, Churchianity has sinned.

2 May 2011 at 09:05  
Anonymous MrJ said...

On this occasion it may be that our Blogmaster for a few moments has allowed a fit of over-exuberant cartwheeling sweep aside his better judgment, with a thrilling surge of ill-considered triumphalism. He would be so much better at a more sober appraisal than others who may make the attempt.

2 May 2011 at 09:23  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

Where is the Red Alert from UK Security?

2 May 2011 at 09:42  
Blogger Harry Hook said...

"And to those who do not agree with His Grace’s rather literalist understanding of the afterlife..."

With respect, your Grace... you should know...

2 May 2011 at 09:44  
Blogger MFH said...

There has to be sadness that any soul enters the place of eternal torment.
The fact that Satan has blinded so many eyes to the realities of so many of false religions, atheists, and even those who suppose they are Christians, must be a matter of sorrow and prayer for us.
The death of Jesus is sufficient to atone for all sins.
Let us not gloat that another son of Adam, created in the image of God, will be eternally separated from his love. Let us drive on to warn others of the judgement to come. et us be encouraged that the people of Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah.

2 May 2011 at 09:51  
Anonymous Rotoscoper said...

God is a holy God and so by nature just. He alone by definition can judge rightly, and his judgment is that 'the just shall live by faith'. That faith is in Christ alone.

To our knowledge Bin Laden died never having declared Jesus Lord and living by faith in him. He will go to hell. The small leaping of our hearts we all felt this morning is in some measure an insight into the joyous justice we will feel on judgement day, when all evil is rewarded. Those in Christ, anyway.

Well said, Your Grace.

2 May 2011 at 10:12  
Blogger Simon said...

Your Grace,

On 22 March you (rightly) praised a speech by Kris Hopkins MP in which he spoke of the possible removal of Colonel Gaddafi:

"This morning when I was coming to work, I listened to a phone-in from BBC television about whether we should kill Gaddafi. It was almost gladiatorial, as though people were phoning in so that we could see whether the populace was giving a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down. I have to say that I was fairly disgusted that the killing of another human being, however disgusting he is, could become a form of entertainment."

I find it sad that the world will celebrate the death of Osama bin Laden without any feeling of grief for his passing, and your article lacks that feeling of grief also. We are all miracles of our Lord's creation, so although bin Laden's assassination is, I think, justified, the destruction of a fellow human being is horrific, whatever he chose to make of his life. I am sure God is not rejoicing this morning at the news, so what right have we to do the same?

2 May 2011 at 10:14  
Anonymous Road_Hog said...

I very much doubt that he died recently, he's probably been dead for a long time. Benazir Bhutto did a live broadcast shortly before her assisination, stating that he was dead and naming the killer. She should have known being Prime Minister of Pakistan.

And why have they dumped the body/evidence overboard already in a burial at sea, if they don't have something to hide?

This is a case of waving with one hand saying. look over there, no you to be looking at the other hand to see what the distraction is for.

2 May 2011 at 10:15  
Blogger KCB said...


2 May 2011 at 10:20  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

"And why have they dumped the body/evidence overboard already in a burial at sea, if they don't have something to hide?"

The last thing anyone wants is a physical shrine to the man.

2 May 2011 at 10:27  
Anonymous Sage said...

He'll burn in hell.

2 May 2011 at 10:28  
Blogger Harry-ca-Nab said...

Wow. Allah not God, false prophet, satanic cult.

You really are a Christian!

And I thought you may be an Anglican wimp.

Can you please take Williams in hand?

2 May 2011 at 10:32  
OpenID Paul Dean said...

Well said, Your Grace.

Though Simon finds is sad that the world celebrates the apprehension and punishment of a mass murderer, ignore that. Go on with confidence, remembering to say, as I'm sure you do, "There but for the grace of God, go I..."

2 May 2011 at 10:32  
Anonymous chris r said...

Anon 08:38

"So to my understanding Islam calls itself a religion of peace, am I right to believe that Christianity calls itself a religion of love?"

While rightly pointing out the awful consequences awaiting Osama, having rejected the Gift of Love, who has always been available to him, it should also be noted the God of Love 'desires not the death of a sinner, rather that he may turn from his wickedness and live.'

2 May 2011 at 10:43  
Blogger prziloczek said...

One of the good Haddith tells the story of a devout Muslim who watched a bad Muslim behaving in a bad way. In his heart he condemned the man to Hell.
Then he himself died and, behold! Allah sent him to Hell. Why? Allah is the King of the Day of Judgement. He Alone.
And, of course, then there is that bit about Dives and Lazarus.........

2 May 2011 at 10:53  
Anonymous len said...

Well said Your Grace!
When all illusions are swept aside it indeed will be a fearful thing to have to answer for ones actions to Yahweh the Creator of the Universe.

It is a Christian expression of love to tell people the truth.

2 May 2011 at 10:54  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

It's a bit off that as an atheist and a gay man, I'm potentially going to be in the next fiery puddle to Osama.

Welcome to Hell (Rowan Atkinson):

"Christians? Well, yes. I'm afraid that the Jews were right."


2 May 2011 at 10:59  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And to those who do not agree with His Grace’s rather literalist understanding of the afterlife, he does not care."

I am among their number. But we recognise that this is His Grace's blog : he has carte blanche to say whatever he wishes.
Any disagreement from me is more than adequately compensated by HG'S stimulating, provocative writings.

The thought of all those virgins would be rather intimdating , anyway .I would far prefer two or three experienced ladies , who no longer required the benefit of my patient tuition and guidance.

Marcus Foxall

2 May 2011 at 11:01  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

The truth, is the truth.

It matter not who tells it, or how you come by it. Something is either true, or it is not true.

Why do so many of you believe that Bin-Larden died only a few days ago simply because your TV's tells you so?

Time and time again our ruling elites have shown themselves to be liars, and not even notably convincing ones.

You may have noticed that when the media reports on matters that you yourself have personal knowledge of, the media is always shown to be either completely wrong, mainly wrong, or essentially wrong. One thing the establishments mass media never is, is completely truthful, or agenda free.

However it is not the lies which we are told, that is our greatest problem.

What is our greatest problem is the TRUTH, that the media either never goes anywhere near, or more often does tell, but very cleverly hides within a mass of otherwise pointless nonsense.

2 May 2011 at 11:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can you possibly know? I have no more reason to believe that you know what you're talking about on this subject than the Muslims and their heavenly bordello. Isn't it OBVIOUS to you that no-one can know any of this and is just some wish fulfillment on your part?

2 May 2011 at 11:15  
Anonymous philip walling said...

Unpleasant rubbish YG!

'Love those that persecute you and pray for those that hate you!'

O B Laden (if he existed) was sent to test our love for our enemies and you YG have failed the test.

If you're right the only consideration is whether or not a soul ends up in heaven. According to you all those that Bin Laden is accused of causing the deaths of are in heaven for ever, so what's their problem?

Surely we should pray for Bin Laden's repentance and salvation and not exult at his eternal damnation like so many pagans.

I am very uneasy about your attitude to this and I think you have diminished your moral authority by this vicious outburst.

2 May 2011 at 11:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May you and all your followers enjoy spending eternity with Osama Bin Laden in hell.

Everyone who isn't part of the Church of Rape, Pillage and Murder (England)

2 May 2011 at 11:29  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

Cranmer says

he feels better for having conveyed a sense of what it must be to fall into the hands of the living God, without the hope of the salvation of Christ.

Much as we might like to believe that Bin Laden’s crimes deserve more than just a bullet to the head, that is all he will get. No paradise, no heaven, no hell and no opportunity for repentance for in common with all living things his death will end his existence. He may live on in our memories for a while and eventually those too will fade and disappear.

Perhaps in time we may better understand what allows a person to kill for an idea. History is full of those who did just that, many in the name of their faith, others for a political cause. One thing is clear and that is whilst human beings believe in the myths and magic of religious beliefs we will never be rid of these people.

2 May 2011 at 11:33  
Anonymous len said...

Phillip Walling,

Its too late for Bin Laden!.

This is the whole point of telling people the truth ,the Gospel, NOW!.

Jesus spoke of Judgement and Hell should we do less?

2 May 2011 at 11:37  
Anonymous len said...

After death, there is only the prospect of judgment— not a further opportunity for obedience (Heb. 9:27). In the parable of the virgins, Jesus taught that in whatever condition one goes to “sleep,” i.e., dies, in exactly that same state he will meet the Jesus(Mt. 25:1-13). Moreover, there is a permanent, impassible chasm between the place of punishment and that of reward, and no man can cross it (Lk. 16:26). There is no post-mortem plan of salvation. Now is the day of redemption (2 Cor. 6:2).

2 May 2011 at 11:42  
Anonymous Gordo said...

No chance of a trial now. But since there was never a Warren Commission I suppose there was never going to be a trial anyway.

2 May 2011 at 11:44  
Blogger Tim said...

Why does torture become acceptable just because God is doing it?

2 May 2011 at 11:45  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Buried at sea! Gone to Davy Jones's Locker.

Tell that to Atlas shrugged. Put it in a pipe for smoking.

btw_"I was rather surprised to find that he seemed all at sea, and had no one ready to go with me." (Travel and adventure in south-east Africa, 1893, Frederick C. Selous) (source:

2 May 2011 at 11:47  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace,

Spot-on. Apart from the time of death, which was (IMO) years ago. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Tim, why don't you ask Him?

2 May 2011 at 11:53  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

Anonymous said...
How can you possibly know? I have no more reason to believe that you know what you're talking about on this subject than the Muslims and their heavenly bordello. Isn't it OBVIOUS to you that no-one can know any of this and is just some wish fulfillment on your part?

Please read my comment again, and then tell me where I stated I know something. For all I know Bin-Larden did die as stated.

All I am saying is that I have no reason to believe that he did simply because Obama, or anyone else employed by our ruling elites tells me so.

I strongly suspect that not even Obama is absolutely sure, that what he has stated is actually the truth.

All I ask is that you start thinking for yourselves, and only trust those that have proved to you that they can be trusted.

Which means that you can not trust myself, any more then you can trust our ruling elites, or the establishments completely subservient main stream media.

Get it?

OK, I will try again.

I am not asking you to trust myself, only second hand car sales-men, politicians, priests, crooks, or other trained liars do this kind of thing.

I ask you to think again, and so hopefully for YOURSELF.

What evidence do YOU have that your MSM can be trusted, over this or any other important issue?

Truth is all around you.

Start by looking at yourself, and your own nearest and dearest, then out of your window. After you have done so then travel around a bit, and talk to all types of different people with very different experiences of this world.

Try performing this little life long experiment for yourself, and I have little doubt that you will eventually come to the same conclusion as myself, and many others.

That being:

EVERYTHING, that you have ever been told by your ruling elites, is either a lie, or is based on a lie.

To know the absolute truth is of course utterly IMPOSSIBLE under all circumstances, and even given an infinite amount of time with which to find it.

We do not have an infinite amount of time in this domain, with which to find even the smallest part of the essential truth of life, the universe, and everything.

Worse still, believing everything our ruling elites have thrown at us, using nothing more then wishful thinking, or blind faith as our guides, is the worst possible way to start looking for it.

Set your own mind FREE. For a free mind knows no chains, even if his body knows nothing else.

2 May 2011 at 12:06  
Anonymous Sam Vega said...

From Freude to Schadenfreude.

What a difference a day makes.

2 May 2011 at 12:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hellbound indeed.

2 May 2011 at 12:09  
Blogger Gnostic said...

Fish food!

2 May 2011 at 12:13  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

The world is all the better for his passing.

The world will be unaffected by his passing because he drew his inspiration directly from the sacred texts of Islam, and those texts will continue to inspire Muslims to kill in the name of Allah.

Islam will never be at peace with the West because Islam teaches that the world will only see peace when it is has been conquered for Allah. If we wish to retain our way of life, we must recognize that Islam is our enemy and defend ourselves against it.

WV: blessedd

2 May 2011 at 12:21  
Blogger English Viking said...


Unfortunately, you are entirely correct Sir.

2 May 2011 at 12:23  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

JR: "The world will be unaffected by his passing because he drew his inspiration directly from the sacred texts of Islam, and those texts will continue to inspire Muslims to kill in the name of Allah."

Mostly from Milestones by Sayyid Qtub, I'd say.

2 May 2011 at 12:45  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

No mention of the Beast from the east rising from the sea sporting a head wound on the seventh head bringing forth the end of the world and all that nonsense.

Would have thought len or Singh would have been all over that in second.

Buried at sea my ar*e, methinks I smell bullsh*t.

2 May 2011 at 12:52  
Blogger Maturecheese said...

I hope I can be excused for my cynicism but one of my first thoughts when I heard the news this morning was, Isn't it the run up to the Presidential elections in the USA? Very convenient that Bin Laden has been disposed off at sea so quickly. Already the talk on the radio,well the BBC anyway and I suppose that is to be expected, is how good this is for Obama.

If it does turn out to be Bin Laden, the duplicity of the Pakistanis really does need to be addressed. Also our own successive Governments policies of allowing these people unrestricted access to our country needs to be closely scrutinised.

2 May 2011 at 12:57  
Blogger Harry-ca-Nab said...

I hiding for years, then an American Soldier looked him straight in the eye and shot him.

Now he is fish food.

No Islamic burial, no facing Mecca, no resurection, no shrine, no matrydom.

Just fish food.

2 May 2011 at 13:03  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

No body, no proof, just in time for the starting up of reelection campaigns for a President people thought couldn't get back in following a week covering birth certificate scandals?

Convenient fish food though don't you think?

2 May 2011 at 13:06  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

^They could hardly parade his body across the media after complaining about bodies of US and UK soldiers being displayed on foreign TV. I suspect that if there are enough conspiracy theories popping up then they will 'reluctantly' release pictures as proof. And Obama has form for this with his Heffalump trap for Donald Trump and fellow republicans shouting about birth certificates.

2 May 2011 at 13:14  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

I hope it wasn't the Bay of Pigs where they dumped it. Nah, I bet the body is in a freezer somewhere for the time being.

2 May 2011 at 13:24  
Blogger Lakester91 said...

1) Why did they dispose of his body so quickly?

Because it had to be buried within 24 hours. There's no point in antagonising Muslims without good cause.

2) Why did they dispose of it at sea?

So that his grave could not possibly be discovered and become a shrine.

2 May 2011 at 13:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your Grace has reminded me that Jesus is the incarnate Son of God, that the one true God is revealed as Trinity and that the Lord Jesus truly suffered for us and died on the cross for our salvation. This is saving belief. All three core teachings are categorically denounced in the Mohammedism's holy book.

The Quicunque vult comes to mind: Whosoever will be saved: before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith (ie the Trinity and Incarnational doctrines as the universal church defined them in the first five centuries of the Christian era.

My only thought is a trial would have been just as would a burial according to the rites of his faith. Mass murderer and islamo-fascist that he was, we could still have extended some kind of charity to the poor misguided soul.

2 May 2011 at 13:56  
Blogger Manfarang said...

"And Obama has form for this with his Heffalump trap for Donald Trump and fellow republicans shouting about birth certificates."

Now they can start shouting for death certificates.
Body thrown into the sea?
I don't think so.
Bin Laden has probably been dead for years.No videos have been shown of him in the last few years just voice tapes which could have been faked.

2 May 2011 at 14:08  
Anonymous len said...

Mr Glovner,
Good to see you back.Quite impressed with your knowledge of Bible Prophesy.
Have you been studying the Bible by any chance?

(I see the conspiracy theories have already started about Bin Laden`s death )

2 May 2011 at 14:30  
Anonymous Atlas shrugged said...

Lakester91 said...
1) Why did they dispose of his body so quickly?

Because it had to be buried within 24 hours. There's no point in antagonising Muslims without good cause.

2) Why did they dispose of it at sea?

So that his grave could not possibly be discovered and become a shrine.

2 May 2011 13:55

I know these will be among the reason given, for there are always reason to be given.

The point is DO YOU BELIEVE them. If you do then you are not paying any kind of proper attention, but simply repeated clear nonsense.

I can assure you that there is many Americans that do not trust their own government, whoever is seemingly heading it up.

Surely keeping these people on side should be a vitally important part of being an American president.

Obama could have used this time to PROVE beyond doubt that Bin-Larden actually died when the people he works for say that he did, but chose to bury the evidence at sea.

Ask yourself WHY, and especially why at sea, of all places? Why not just burn it. Could it be because burning a body does not remove all DNA evidence?

And also

Sod Arab opinion, does the opinion of a very large minority, if not small majority of Americans, not count for anything?

As for Obamas so called Birth certificate being a Heffalump trap for Donald Trump.

Again, who cares about what happens to Trump or any other establishment tool?

Obama's so called birth certificate is not only an obvious forgery, it is not even important as to whether Obama is a naturalized citizen of The USA, and therefore properly qualified to be US president, or not.

Please be so kind as to do your own research as to what the problem actually is, rather then what you have been lead to believe it is, by people like Donald Trump, and Fox News.

The case against Obamas legal qualification does not hinge, and never has, on whether he was born in The USA or not.

2 May 2011 at 14:39  
Blogger homme_arme said...

Those 72 virgins - actually are 72 Virginians. ( I know this isn't the correct translation, but ...)

2 May 2011 at 15:24  
Blogger Lakester91 said...

OBL could easily disprove his death by appearing in a new video with the day's newspaper. When he does I will apologise for my naivety.

Sod Arab opinion, does the opinion of a very large minority, if not small majority of Americans, not count for anything?

If it means that they won't riot and kill needlessly then it matters a lot. There is a difference between following principles that might happen to annoy someone and going out of your way to piss them off.

Sometimes I wonder whether you're just trolling, Atlas. If so I commend you for keeping it up for so long.

2 May 2011 at 15:38  
Anonymous WannabeAnglican said...

Well said, Your Grace.

As I've gently stated on my blog, today is indeed a day to rejoice.

2 May 2011 at 16:29  
Blogger the doctor said...

Archbishop , you have never written a finer post , well done .

2 May 2011 at 17:38  
Anonymous malvoisin said...

I find it strange that people on here are jumping for joy. Obama has a very bad week and hey presto he announces the death of OBL, all the years the USA has been looking for him and they just happen to get him this week? The compound burnt to the ground, the body buried at sea, which means no trial, no evidence, all the loose ends neatly tied up and nobody smells a rat?

Also, why use American special forces in the country of an ally? Especially when there were hundreds of Pakistani soldiers next door, could it be the powers that be were frightened the Pakistani military might take him alive?

2 May 2011 at 17:42  
Blogger revdrron said...

Yea & Amen!

2 May 2011 at 17:57  
Anonymous not a machine said...

whilst the symbol has been killed ,there is some way to go before it sinks in just what a wrong turn Islam has taken.

Although considering I thought he was dead in 2002 ,he seems to have done a good job of evading one of the biggest intelligence/military in the world consider also he was 6ft 5in in height , the large compound was built only 4 yrs ago and you wonder if anyone was looking in the right place .

WV restin (I kid you not)

2 May 2011 at 18:07  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Maturecheese (12:57) "If it does turn out to be Bin Laden, the duplicity of the Pakistanis really does need to be addressed..."

Atlas shrugged (14:39) "...The point is DO YOU BELIEVE them."

A Village Explainer might add: What people desire or fear to believe, or want others to desire or fear, may have a stronger influence on what is named as "conspiracy" than would a a scrupulous sifting of the information and appraisal of the evidence. The most obvious instance is in connection with Mr Blair's dossier about WMD in Iraq.

If the plotting of Brutus and others which resulted in the murder of Julius Caesar, or the plotting of the temple authorities against Jesus, or the plotting which resulted in the assassination of the Archduke in 1914, can be described as a conspiracy, then the events which have today resulted in the announcement of casting into the sea the body of Osama bin Laden have evidently (even on the basis of such information as has been officially or unofficially disclosed or withheld so far) resulted from a conspiracy of one kind or another, on the part of persons suspected or unknown, possibly implicating government officials or not.

The same could be said of the misinformation concerning the birth details of Mr Obama and his status as a "natural born citizen" (as mentioned by Atlas s.).

The timing of the events in connection with the USA presidential elections suggest that persons in positions of power or influence are actively involved.

An important consideration may be whether there is enough sand to go round for enough of the ostriches enough of the time?

2 May 2011 at 18:13  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

At least the USA didn't send a couple of cruise missiles after Mugabe over the weekend. That wouldn't have gone down too well I suppose. I guess we now know why Wills and Kate didn't go on their planned honeymoon.

2 May 2011 at 19:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, today he stands in the fearful presence of YHWH

Oh yes. So much for the last day then.

2 May 2011 at 21:17  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Hear, Hear Your Grace.

Mr Atlas Shrugged, there's a rumour going round that OBL's body will be kept in the same mortuary as the Aliens in Area 51. Thought you would like to know.

2 May 2011 at 21:43  
Anonymous Job's Tempter said...

Terrific. Just what we need more of. An absolute conviction about who deserves to burn in your (made-up) hell. That same conviction turned a polite, prosperous Saudi engineering graduate into a mass murderer. The world is safer without Bin Laden, but we are still suffering the religious poison which spawned him.

2 May 2011 at 22:53  
Blogger English Viking said...

Job's Tempter,

Yes, that's right... 911 was all the fault of those provocative Christians.


3 May 2011 at 00:11  
Anonymous Job's Tempter said...

No. Try reading the comment again. Then try responding to the actual point I'm making.

3 May 2011 at 00:50  
Anonymous TheGlovner said...

The scenes of the Americans shouting USA in front of the white house almost feverishly over the death of Osama/Usama are ironically similar to the scenes of fundamentalist Muslims screaming for deaths of the western infidels.

Ironic, disturbing and a little saddening that they think we are so much better but act in this way.

But mostly worrying that it seems that they, and the worlds media are happy to accept what they are told by the American Government without even the slightest modicum of truth to back their claims. Most worrying that they won't even ask the questions that need answers.

3 May 2011 at 01:58  
Anonymous TheObserver said...

"He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all). (QS, 5:18)

God is the wisest judge of them all. May Allah have mercy on his soul and especially on our souls.

3 May 2011 at 05:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Atlas, please keep up the good work. You are one of many who are trying to open the doors of truth so that others can see. It's a hard job. I've tried it too, but I know many will never understand.
The awake and aware can easily see what is going on here. Deception upon deception, lie after lie. I chose long ago to ignore the mainstream media and read between their lines.

3 May 2011 at 08:33  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Mr The Glovner @ 0158 and Mr Anonymous @ 0833, are either or both of you suggesting that the death of Bin Laden is fake? Would the US government really risk being caught out on such a massive fraud? If you believe the death is a fake, what level of proof do you need to understand that it is not?

3 May 2011 at 08:54  
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3 May 2011 at 09:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is absolutely no way on God’s green earth that the government of Pakistan and its “intelligence” services did not know that he was living there. Despite years of dumbed down “education, education, education” it must be obvious even to Sun “readers” that Pakistan has been sheltering the son of Satan.

Now there’s just the little matter of halting and reclaiming the millions of pounds of “foreign aid” so generously given to Pakistan by Cameron, Brown and Blair on behalf of British tax payers.

3 May 2011 at 09:27  
Blogger Graham Davis said...

As has been suggested burying the body at sea is probably a sham. I suspect Bin Laden’s body has been taken back to the USA where it will be hidden probably for decades until the current Islamist threat has subsided. There may be some strategic use in retaining the body (if only to prove that he is dead) and perhaps DNA will provide some useful evidence. It is simply too valuable to discard.

3 May 2011 at 09:34  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

Bin Laden's dead face photo appeared briefly on the Mails web-site yesterday but has now disappeared.

It was unmistakeably him; his eyes looked decidedly gooey and the skin was showing signs of 2nd degree burns. Obama watched the whole thing from a helmet camera. Bin Ladens bin bin-bagged and dumped over the side like the dead rat he is.

Glad the bastard is dead and buried without trace. No matter what the Muslims say about his burial being not officially in accordance with Islamic prescription; NO matter what was done or not done, they will find any excuse for yet another pretext to take to the streets and worse, for having caused them 'offence'

It is about time we told the 'Islamic' world to get back to their goats and camels in short jerky movements.

Meanwhile with I would like to se the government withdraw all benefits from the likes of Chaudry and co and start putting British citizens first and to hell with the HRA.

Strike again while the iron is hot.

3 May 2011 at 10:13  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Your Grace, any exclusive insights from Baroness Warsi on the OBL hit?

Mr Graham Davis, as Mr Lakester91 says, OBL can prove he is alive by releasing an Osama to Obama 'get stuffed, you missed' video.

Hold your breath and start counting.

3 May 2011 at 10:50  
Blogger English Viking said...


The reason the photo was taken down was because it was a fake. Go to Old Holborn's blog to see the proof.

No evidence exists in the public forum that he is dead.

3 May 2011 at 11:52  
Anonymous Dreadnaught said...

Could well be - and worth considering, but I prefer to think the bugger's good and dead whatever the pictures may be proven to reveal.

3 May 2011 at 13:59  
Blogger English Viking said...


I think he's dead. Probably around 5 years ago.

3 May 2011 at 14:11  
OpenID scottspeig said...


I have to side with the opinion that it is not good news that another soul has been won by the powers of darkness.

While the world may leap in joy, we, as believers, should be more reflective on the eternal suffering of our enemy.

I'm very pleased that you have the literalistic view of hell.

3 May 2011 at 16:15  
Anonymous Preacher said...

Philip Walling.
makes the statement that the 3000 souls that died at Bin Ladens instigation are in Heaven.
Where did you get that idea from Mr Walling?. Only those that accepted the salvation that Christ provided are safe, the rest of the unsaved are now with Mr Bin Laden.
Who knows what percentage were not ready to stand before the Almighty on the day of 9/11.
A warning for all I would say, and I guess that the person who caused their unexpected demise will not be popular with his new neighbours.

3 May 2011 at 17:34  
Anonymous martin sewell said...

When South Africa's Dr Vervoerd died the Irish Times ran a simple obituary.

"He was a rotten bastard- my he rot in hell."
Hard to think we need struggle for a better one.

I am reminded of the US Marines Tee Shirt
"God will judge Bin Laden - its our job to arrange the meeting."

Some immensely brave young men deserve the world's gratitude.

3 May 2011 at 19:46  
Anonymous TheObserver said...


America would risk anything because it has nothing to loose. Iraq was a lie, remember? No WMD were found, they would have known, they were the suppliers.

Laos, a secret war not known to even Americans until recently, my, your naivety is unique, Bluedog, unique to only you, I hope. Who has ever invaded a whole country in order to catch criminals not even native to the country? Don't they know about Interpol?

Everyone is afraid of the dominating Islam and Muslims. In the real world, it is the forces of crusaders that are invading and subduing nations, all around the world, then and now. Grow up bluedog.

4 May 2011 at 03:33  
Blogger Rufus T. Firefly said...

The spectacle of Cranmer in crusading mode is neither attractive nor edifying.

5 May 2011 at 07:46  
Blogger Rufus T. Firefly said...

In the face of a man’s death, a Christian never rejoices, but reflects on the serious responsibilities of each person before God and before men, and hopes and works so that every event may be the occasion for the further growth of peace and not of hatred." - Vatican Statement on the Death of Bin Laden

5 May 2011 at 07:58  
Blogger Rufus T. Firefly said...

I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that."
--Martin Luther King, Jr

5 May 2011 at 07:59  
Blogger johnsunol said...

this is the same place that all will go to, Saddhaam husien is already there as with Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin - if they do nto accept Jesus Christ as their personal lord and saviour

11 June 2011 at 22:25  

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