Friday, July 22, 2011

Announcing the EU Fiscal Federation

Listen carefully: "...the Heads of State, Heads of Goverment are determined to close ranks and be together."

Forget the peoples.

"...there had to be a federation at the financial, fiscal and economic levels."

So, Eurogeddon (temporarily) postponed. Germany gets its Empire. Welcome to the Euromark.


Anonymous Paleo said...

"Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig, festem Schritt...."

22 July 2011 at 11:37  
Blogger Arden Forester said...

So who is clapping their hands in glee (some posthumously!)?

Julius Caesar
Napoleon Bonaparte
Sir Oswald Mosley
Otto von Bismark
Sir Edward (The Grocer) Heath
various French presidents
various Mafia organisations
big business
the jellyfish of the Irish Sea
the Greek Army (so well put by John Redwood)
and all redblooded Europhiles

Not forgetting Rumpy Pumpy, Barossa and the high fallutin' Baroness Brussels.

What a shower!

22 July 2011 at 11:46  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Germany gets nothing. France gets what it wants and Britain as France's puppet goes along.

The puerile English mind obsessed with Nazi fetischism cannot see that it is France that wants Economic Government to fund its Mediterranean and North African Empire.

France has spent its time for 4 centuries keeping the region to the North under control, only to find after 1870 and 1925 it did not have the power without Britain to do so.

Britain gave itself as an instrument of French foreign policy after 1911 and again after 1938. In the interwar period Britain had excellent relations with Germany and Austen Chamberlain and Gustav Stresemann shared the Nobel Peace Prize.

France created the EU after Suez/Dien Bien Phu to colonise Europe and harness Germany to fund its goals. There is a distinct lack of intellectual analysis on this blog

22 July 2011 at 11:56  
Anonymous Charles De Gaulle said...

@ voyager :

Oubliez les Etats de l'Europe, vive la patrie européenne!

22 July 2011 at 12:03  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

"There is a distinct lack of intellectual analysis on this blog"

You mean you don't always agree with what His Grace says? That's fine. But deriding a (dead) man's intellect simply because he has a different political perspective is no different to calling him a 'bigot' when he advocates a religious doctrine with which you may disagree. It is insult-hurling which is puerile.

22 July 2011 at 12:07  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

Eva Braun’s main squeeze belongs on Mr Forester’s list, too. Name escapes me.

22 July 2011 at 12:10  
Anonymous Jack Flash said...

Cancer invariably kills its host unless caught in time.
We need drastic political surgery now, to cut away the the EEC tumour before it's too late!.


22 July 2011 at 12:47  
Blogger Arden Forester said...

Johnny Rottenborough you are very right indeed. I forgot him, but going under the title of "Eva Braun's Main Squeeze" I shall have him forefront in my mind for some days to come!

22 July 2011 at 13:25  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Voyager, all well and good but Britain isn't in the Eurozone, so has no influence over the outcome of the bailouts (although we will doubtless be paying via the IMF).

You talk about France's North African Empire, but didn't the Chancellor Bismark actively encourage French intrige and colonial policy in those regions, in order to keep France isolated so that Britain and France would engage in endless bickering, especially over Egypt?.

I really don't know where you get the other arguments from, because as far as I can remember for the most part of the 18th and 19th centuries Britain's main "rival" was France, although British foreign policy was a mixture of balance of power politics and periods of 'splendid isolation' in which Britain looked outwards from Europe to the rest of the world and did not entangle herself in the full blown alliance blocs which developed during the later 19th century.

This was a situation which changed because of the British elite's fears over Kaiser William II and his world politics & a vast battleship building programme to rival the Royal Navy.

All of which, it was thought, was a threat to Britain. 1911 was not the start of Anglo-French co-operation, though, because I think you will find that the entente was formed in 1904/05?

Likewise you write about anglo-german relations in the interwar period as being 'excellent' or as we called it 'appeasement', a policy whose ultimate flaw was that Hitler was unappeasable and was hell bent on conquest and the extermination of whole groups and races.

Further reading:

1. Dreadnaught by Robert K Massie

2. The Struggle for Mastery in Europe, by AJP Taylor.

3. The Realities behind Diplomacy :background influences on British External Policy 1865-1980 by Paul Kennedy.

4.Griff nach der Weltmacht: Die Kriegzielpolitik des kaiserlichen Deutschland 1914–1918 by Fritz Fischer

5.The Collapse of British Power by Corelli Barnett

22 July 2011 at 13:31  
Anonymous Voyager said...

' when he advocates a religious doctrine with which you may disagree.

I do not recall such an occasion. Please elucidate.

Paul Twigg may like to review Viscount Grey of Fallodon, Britain's longest-serving foreign secretary who single-handedly created the encirclement of Germany by allying Britain informally and secretly to Germany's two main enemies - France and Russia.

Moreover Lloyd George blamed Grey as the Man who caused the First World War.

The Kaiser mistrusted his uncle Edward VII who personally initiated the Entente Cordiale.

You really should read up on the secret negotiations Grey authorised WITHOUT Cabinet approval concerning movements of the fleet. As for Fritz Fischer, he has his own axe to grind......

The Flottenverein posed no real threat to the Royal Navy which thanks to Jackie Fisher was way ahead - even though German gunnery was far superior.

The Anglo-German Naval Treaty 1935 achieved what exactly, following upon the Treaty of Washington and Treaty of London ?

Why did Viscount Grey undermine Austria-Hungary by backing Russia over Serbia ?

22 July 2011 at 13:59  
Anonymous carl jacobs said...


Quoting the Horst Wessel Lied is over the top. This isn't the National Socialist Party seeking to create a New World Order.


22 July 2011 at 14:00  
Anonymous Voyager said...

ar period as being 'excellent' or as we called it 'appeasement',

Your ignorance is astounding ! The Bank of England worked very closely with the Reichsbank throughout the 1920s. Stresemann and Austen Chamberlain worked on Locarno and other pacts.

There was no problem between Britain and Germany. Appeasement was Neville Chamberlain's policy and a term of approbation - he was the first PM to appear on the balcony of Buckingham Palace to meet adoring crowds and would have romped home in a 1938 election had he called one.

"Appeasement" was called "Detente" in the 1970s when NATO decided global war was not attractive enough.

22 July 2011 at 14:04  
Blogger English Viking said...

The EU is rubbish.

22 July 2011 at 14:16  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

"I do not recall such an occasion. Please elucidate"

Mr Voyager, replace 'you' with 'one': it was not addressed to a specific second-person, but the vernacular generic.

22 July 2011 at 14:27  
Anonymous Voyager said...

You talk about France's North African Empire

Nothing to do with Bismarck, everything to do with Sarkozy.

Bismarck has been dead since 30 July 1898 and neither he nor Westerwelle have anything to do with War in Libya which Sarkozy is sponsoring with his sidekick.....

Sarkozy “The time has come,” he said, “to build together a Mediterranean Union that will be the bridge between Europe and Africa.”


The Commission recommended that the new organisation, called “Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean”, should hold summits every two years, but avoided suggesting where to locate its headquarters, saying that should be decided by the summit.

The presidency on the EU side will be held by France for an initial six months before the Lisbon treaty reforming EU institutions enters into force. It will then by the new long-term president of the council of EU states, the European Commission president and the EU’s high representative for foreign policy.

Paris had originally wanted the grouping limited to states with Mediterranean coasts. It still wants the union’s permanent secretariat in a Mediterranean country, with French officials suggesting Morocco, Tunisia or EU member Malta as possibilities.

22 July 2011 at 14:29  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Voyager for a chap who was berating his Grace as thus

"There is a distinct lack of intellectual analysis on this blog"

You then make a series of statements without reference or any real analysis.

Yes I have actually read various documents, as I spent 3 years doing a History and Politics degree, including the varios diplomatic papers & Foreign Office correspondence ( the many vols of 'British documents on the origins of the war'- some of the French was a bit difficult) and other sources.

I gave you a few general texts with which to grapple the subject, but you seem to have dismissed them out of hand- I wonder why?

I appreciate that this may be a language problem, so I am happy to converse in German if it would be easier?

22 July 2011 at 14:30  
Anonymous Voyager said...

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Richard Youngs, at the Madrid-based think-tank Fride, says that Kadhafi's opposition is not surprising.

"Kadhafi’s been fairly hostile to the Barcelona process, the EU’s current policy framework towards the Mediterranean," he told RFI. "The EU states have been trying to entice Libya into this process for many years and Kadhafi has rejected those advances.Richard Youngs, at the Madrid-based think-tank Fride, says that Kadhafi's opposition is not surprising.

"Kadhafi’s been fairly hostile to the Barcelona process, the EU’s current policy framework towards the Mediterranean," he told RFI. "The EU states have been trying to entice Libya into this process for many years and Kadhafi has rejected those advances.

22 July 2011 at 14:31  
Anonymous Voyager said...

as I spent 3 years doing a History and Politics degree,

Ausgezeichnet Herr Twigg, ich war bisher der Meinung Ihre Kenntnisse etwa beschraenkt waren, aber jetzt verstehe ich, dass Sie ein Paar Buecher gelesen haben und lieber mit mir auf Deutsch weiter diskutieren wollten.

Das ist herrlich !

Es gibt aber andere Universitaete als Leicester

22 July 2011 at 14:34  
Anonymous Voyager said...


22 July 2011 at 14:36  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Herr Voyager beschäftigt heute Nachmittag werde ich später zurückkommen

22 July 2011 at 14:58  
Blogger English Viking said...

Paul Twigg,

Most of your posts seem (to me at least) to be about trying to show how clever and important you (think) you are, as opposed to actually being a genuine attempt at debate.

22 July 2011 at 14:58  
Anonymous berserker-nkl said...

As Germany and France both manifestly did not live by the rules of the Growth and Stability Pact, how could one have expected Greece to worry about such minor matters. On joining the Club Greece could suddenly borrow money at far lower rates than hitherto - the temptation was too much.

If Greece had left the Euro currency their exports would have been boosted -especially their ailing textile industry.

Are The EU masters secretly scared that if a country left the the smelly old nest of Euroland, contagion would not necessarily follow?

There is a country that is doing very nicely in the Euro club and that is Poland. They are a success story. Remember they were a major European power 500 hundred years ago.

Will Norway and Switzerland ever join this band of loonies? Don't forget there was a large parliamentary majority in Norway to join the EU but it was put to the people in a referendum which of course the people said: No! Then after a few more years another referendum (how they keep trying) and again the people gave it the thumbs down. They do have after all the Schengen agreement.

22 July 2011 at 15:27  
Anonymous Avi Barzel said...


Whenever someone has an unusual position, or a bee in his bonnet, it's up to him to make an extraordinary effort to present his argument not only in a comprehensive...not to mention comprehensible...manner, but with at least a smidgen of humily and a measure of courtesy. This helps to establish the most important element in an original or unusual "soft sciences" argument: Credibility.

With your grating bloviations and petty potshots about a "puerile English mind obsessed with Nazi fetischism," or "a distinct lack of intellectual analysis on this blog," all you've have managed to establish so far is that you are an inconsequential crank...and a rude and cranky one at that.

In any event, nothing you have presented here is really new or brilliant; most of these clever "analyses" and pseudo-factoids appear to be old regurgitations peddled, usually in the form of exclamation-peppered pamphlets, by the "intellectual" arms of the neo-fascist and historical revisionist movements. B-o-o-o-ring.

22 July 2011 at 15:58  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

English Viking said :

"Paul Twigg,

Most of your posts seem (to me at least) to be about trying to show how clever and important you (think) you are, as opposed to actually being a genuine attempt at debate."

This from the keyboard of a man who simply stated :

"The EU is rubbish".

Which is of course a great debating style, even a student debating society can do better than that.

22 July 2011 at 16:30  
Anonymous Pearls before swine said...

English Viking at least Paul Twigg has something comprehensible to say, unlike the so-called 'christian' bile you come out with- i.e. God loves you so long as your white, hetrosexual and not a catholic. You are I am sorry to say the least christian person on this blog. I would say that the atheist graham davies is far more christian than you are, for you my friend are a bigoted bully.

22 July 2011 at 16:52  
Blogger Owl said...

Someone suggested a Sterling area.

What an excellent idea.

22 July 2011 at 17:17  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Bring me the Gorgons head.

What was the show of Military might all about in Brussels?

Totallitarians, man the barricades!

22 July 2011 at 17:35  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

@Owl, that was me at 13.52 on the thread below. Not that I want to post about how clever I think I am or how important I think that I am.

22 July 2011 at 17:42  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

Paul T: "Which is of course a great debating style, even a student debating society can do better than that."

Perhaps it was humour. I hope it was because I laughed. Juxtaposition, you see. Often quite crucial to humour.

22 July 2011 at 17:42  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Avil Barzel, I don't think the great King and all round wise chap Solomon could have put in a better reply.

22 July 2011 at 17:43  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Danjo- yes, on that post I was deploying irony and humour. And I am sure so was English Viking on his, as he likes me really. Perhaps if we had a good old man to viking sword fight I might win him round?

22 July 2011 at 17:45  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

English Viking said...
"The EU is rubbish."

And that was the full extent of his contribution! Then he has the gall to say to another blogger:

"Paul Twigg,
Most of your posts seem (to me at least) to be about trying to show how clever and important you (think) you are, as opposed to actually being a genuine attempt at debate."

What's the matter English Viking? It wouldn't be that you feel annoyed by Paul's reasonable and considered responses? Is he a bit too 'Anglican' and 'ecumenical' for your liking?

22 July 2011 at 17:47  
Anonymous MrJ said...

EV-- bashing or basher?

EV's comments often swipe, and may not advance the discussion, but how can such comments be seen as "bullying"? Such swipes can sometimes (not always) redress a discussion which is drifting or becoming one-sided.

If the question is one of the quality and relevance of any comment, EV's (in my view) are no worse than many others and sometimes better. That's about as much as could be said for any one here.

It is inevitable that some commenters will be more irritating to some than to others.

The more you go into the principles and detail, the more a rational and balanced evaluation of the EU can be summarised in the simple exclamation: "Phooey". It cannnot have an explanation which is both truthful and rational.

But it is as well to be aware of such things as policy connected with Union for the Mediterranean (mentioned by Voyager) while not forgetting the larger context of events.

Mention has also been made of Sterling, and it seems that has been getting much less attention than is needed.

22 July 2011 at 17:52  
Anonymous Avi Barzel said...

You flatter me, Mr Twigg, but I have to respectfully disagree and say that one of our melekh Shelomo's toenails surely contained more wisdom and wit than I could pretend to in a lifetime. But I thank you for your kind remark!

22 July 2011 at 17:59  
Anonymous Tony B said...

Perhaps Mr Viking was simply short of time.

22 July 2011 at 18:01  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

MrJ said...
"EV-- bashing or basher?"

One of the few posts of yours I have not found ambiquous or cryptic. To some extent I agree but EV really doesn't have to be so ill-mannered and rude.

I'm not sure he needs you to defend him!

22 July 2011 at 18:02  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

I was actually quite impressed with the restraint, myself.

22 July 2011 at 18:04  
Anonymous malvoisin said...

Paul Twigg

Off topic I know, but I wonder if you can answer a question for me please?

Britain and France sign a treaty to uphold Polands sovereignty, under a secret agreement between Ribbontrop and Molotov, Germany and Russia agree to share Poland between them.

So in 1939 Germany invades western Poland, Britain and France declare war on Germany, a week or so later Russia invades eastern Poland why did Britain and France not declare war on Russia?

As you have read the British documents on the origins of the war, I hope you can answer this question for me.

thanks in advance.

22 July 2011 at 18:04  
Anonymous carl jacobs said...


"Appeasement" was called "Detente" in the 1970s when NATO decided global war was not attractive enough.

I don't remember the US carving up an Allied nation and handing it to the USSR the way Chamberlain dismembered and served Chechoslovakia to Hitler. But perhaps I have forgotten something.

The difference between 'appeasement' and 'detente' is the difference between weakness and strength. The Western Powers simply had no stomach for war with Hitler and so they attempted to buy peace for themselves at the expense of 'expendable' nations. That plan didn't work out so well.


22 July 2011 at 18:18  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Malvoisin, I'm afraid I was referring to the First World War and not the Second World War, which is not really my field.

However here are 2 possible reasons :

1) I would have thought that the British and French wanted to bring the Soviets into an anti-nazi alliance (although Churchill was more keen on the idea than Chamberlain, who was the British PM at the time and he sent his representative to Stalin via the longest possible route).

2) The British and the French, as history showed, struggled with their war against Germany & Britain was also aware of the developments in the Far East viz the Japanese Empire. Thus having to possibly face a war on 2 fronts, a war against Russia would have been utter madness and extremly illogical from a 'power politics/real politics' viewpoint ;thankfully Hitler did not learn the lesson of Napoleon and as he eventually discovered it is near impossible to defeat Russia when he made his worst strategic mistake of WWII (along with declaring war on America after Pearl Harbor) in his attack upon the 'Jewish-Bolshevik' Soviet Union.

22 July 2011 at 18:36  
Anonymous Avi Barzel said...

Disturbing news, if anyone has not seen it yet, but an explosion rocked government offices in Oslo.

22 July 2011 at 18:54  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Not that I want to make out more than I think I know or that I am more important than I think I am.

Perhaps I'm having a Donald Rumsfeld moment :

'There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.'

22 July 2011 at 18:55  
Blogger English Viking said...

Toby the Jug is rubbish.

Pearls before swine - bite me.

I am pressed for time; some moron is letting bombs off and shooting children at the mo.

22 July 2011 at 19:08  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

DanJ0 said...
"I was actually quite impressed with the restraint, myself."

Bless him, he might be taking his tablets!

22 July 2011 at 19:10  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

English Viking said...
"Toby the Jug is rubbish.
Pearls before swine - bite me.
I am pressed for time; some moron is letting bombs off and shooting children at the mo.2

Apologies for the light heartedness at this time - overlooked you stay in Norway. Hope you and yours are safe and well.

God Bless and protect you and the peoples of Norway.

22 July 2011 at 19:14  
Blogger English Viking said...



22 July 2011 at 19:20  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Why is every one is so excited today?

The deal done yesterday has massive implications, many as yet to be considered, or even recognised.

As I understand it so far, it strikes me as an 'all or nothing' decision that will either see the Euro-zone triumphant, or destroy it, and the EU, irrevocably.

The new IMF head, Christine Lagarde, ex French Minister of Finance is too readily supportive of the plan; all DEEPLY worrying!

What will it cost us???

22 July 2011 at 19:20  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Vikings everywhere arise! Time to hone those axes!

22 July 2011 at 19:26  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

Whatever our political and theological differences, this comes to naught when a great nation is faced with the events seen in Norway.

I am sure that all of our prayers are with the great people of Norway.

I also pray that the English Viking's relatives are safe from harm and pray for the victims of this terrible act of terrorism.

Words of comfort:

"When thou passest through the waters, I will be with thee; and through the rivers, they shall not overflow thee: when thou walkest through the fire, thou shalt not be burned; neither shall the flame kindle upon thee. "

Isaiah 43 vs 2
King James Version

22 July 2011 at 19:32  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ paul twit, utter rubbish! Praying for the souls of the dead is a sin and a damnable heresy! You are from satan, not from god!

22 July 2011 at 19:50  
Blogger Paul Twigg said...

@ Anon 19.50. Couldn't care less old cock! I'm fed up of your 'damnable hersey' lark that you've posted on mine and my wife's blogs and if you were half a man, I'd expect you to post here under your real name, so 'get real my man'. As the Americans would say.

22 July 2011 at 19:57  
Anonymous Atheist and proud said...

I just don't get it. How does Paul Twigg go 1 second from being reasoned and analytical on the subject of history and then becomes a raving religious lunatic, quoting from the King James Bible and all in all acting like an insane godbot?

Can anyone explain this paradox/delusion?

22 July 2011 at 20:10  
Blogger len said...

The following article is one of the appendices of Louis Even's new book, "In This Age of Plenty":

The basic flaw of the present financial system is that the banks create money as a debt, charging interest on the money that they create. The obligation for the debtor countries to repay the banks money that the banks did not create, money that does not exist, brings about unpayable debts. The Financiers know quite well that it is impossible for these countries to repay their debts, that the present financial system is defective at its base, and that it can only bring about crises and revolutions. But this is exactly what they want!

22 July 2011 at 21:02  
Anonymous MrJ said...

The principal paradox/delusion under consideration here today is the origin, development and activities of the "EU" and its pretensions, as if it were a body worthy of the peoples of the territories of the states adhering to its treaties.

This entity and its conduct are, perhaps, even less coherent than the comment at 20:10, which is in the form of being grammatically constructed but, in effect, is a denial of what it seems to be claiming for itself.

The explanation is openly given in the name: "Atheist and proud".

This shows how pride (including a self-glorying pride) can overwhelm reason and good sense.

In fact, "Atheist and Proud" would do well as a sobriquet for the "EU", or better still as its first and proper name.

22 July 2011 at 21:13  
Anonymous carl jacobs said...

Atheist and Proud

Can anyone explain this paradox/delusion?

The deficiency is not found in Paul Twigg but in your own distorted understanding of 'rational.' It requires no great insight to declare someone 'irrational' according to the standard of "He doesn't agree with me."


22 July 2011 at 22:36  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Your Grace, Mr Voyager's comment at 11.56 '... and Britain as France's puppet goes along' is astute.

There remains a predisposition amongst the British elite to defer to France. Perhaps this tendency is a cultural echo of the Conquest, wherein the Conqueror was a vassal of the King of France. Even to this day, the sacred mottoes of the British state 'Dieu et Mon Droit' and 'Honi soit qui mal y pense, are in Old French.

Best not to mention 'Ich Dien', which spoils the proposition.

22 July 2011 at 22:44  
Anonymous not a machine said...

Norways news is tragic although news seems painfully slow .

But to your gaces post , I dont know if yesterday was "miracle day" but for me I cannot help but have cynical thoughts , "we believe we have put sufficent fire breaks in" was hardly as certain as cutting greece loose from the euro. If this bail out does not allow greeces economy to function then , error will not describe the resultant situation.
My own view as one commentator pointed out that this is about time for Sarkozy and Merkel for re election , as I have not seen much of the asset sale or urgent refomation of tax revenue or state cuts .
If 37bn E of "private finance" is not the worrying small print that is secreting away a financial crisis on the finance sector or if when implimented which banks will pass any new stress test is somthing I think I would find out .
Again though whilst the markest responded positively , you wonder why no one was looking upon the same people proclaiming the bailout , and not thinking these are the very same people that ran the euro in a way that caused the imbalances and then overlooked them , why was greece not subject to urgent financial review in 2004 ,why did not alarms go off at debts of 50,60 70 80 90 or even 100% of gdp.
This immediate phew moment assumes greece can turn around by stabilsing its debt, and not further problems through the constraints of debt. greece must up its game in running its economy , better information and improving its main source of income namely tourism , which is difficult with rioting and euro prices .

23 July 2011 at 00:15  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

"In This Age of Plenty" Len.

Exactly, the house of cards is a paper prison, in words of print.

The only way to enforce, is through force, which flies in the face of (Peace/Salem/Islam) it makes no difference because none wrote a book but taught an inner tradition. Which could become an outer reality.

Legality is not Reality.

Our duty is to keep the peace, therefore, whoever is in enmity be the foe.

We are all born innocents in this World and given a lifetime to figure it out, when we do, if we do, its time for the next brainwashed generation to take over.

Yet the Lineages which never lose the knowledge, perpetuate the Lie.

They fear losing control, but true freedom in peace is about teaching control.

We are in a mess because those with control abuse it, rather than teach it and they prefer print over oral tradition.

23 July 2011 at 00:59  
Blogger The Worker said...

Bred in the Bone

God's Word is written in all hearts. His revelation was written under His inspiration. It surpasses all the 'old' understandings; all the counterfeit 'knowledge'; all the false promises of harmony and balance.

Peace comes at a personal price. It is not achieved without conflict. We are not born innocent into this world; we can hope to leave innocent. The new Way is the only Way. The old leads to decay and corruption.

23 July 2011 at 02:20  
Anonymous MrJ said...

22:44 "...predisposition amongst the British elite to defer to France."

or maybe part of the mix which makes a muddle. This could be a can of worms, Mr bluedog.

"e'lite" is a borrowing from the French like "ancien re'gime".

But elite is now little better than jargon or cant used by persons of a spartist tendency.

British: should not allowance also be made for the motto of the northern kingdom of the Union: 'In Defens', contraction of In My Defens God Me Defend.

"Ich Dien" honourably recalls John of Bohemia and the HRE of the German Nation, and withal the House of Hanover who had the status of Electors of ditto until its abolition during the conflicts with Bonarparte of Corsica, at the time when he styled himself "Emperor of the French".

And then again, there are the peoples of Flanders and of the Netherlands.

So many threads and twines with uncertain sources and loose ends, ravellings and unravellings.

23 July 2011 at 06:59  
Anonymous Stuart said...

I haven't heard anything from the Greek people's point of view. Their government is handing over perhaps the most important power that any government possesses. So-called Eurosceptics such as David Cameron and Democrats such as Nick Clegg haven't seen fit to criticise this development. But still the respective labels for each of them is complete BS. The degradation of democracy continues.

23 July 2011 at 09:05  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

The Worker, what wise words, much appreciated, I would not of course promote the false idea of harmony.

If original sin was eating from the tree of knowledge in good and evil, pure faith is a complete stripping away of a belief in good or evil.

We are neither on an evolutionary path, nor devolutionary, rather involutionary, in the World but not of it.

23 July 2011 at 09:06  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Mr J @ 06.59 said 'This could be a can of worms, Mr bluedog.'

Not really. This communicant never has any hesitation in being extremely frank with the French.

Which is beside the point.

The important realisation is that the British identity is very much an exercise in going to great lengths to avoid being French.

Membership of the EU threatens centuries of effort in this regard. Something Mr Clegg, to name but one, is unable to understand.

23 July 2011 at 09:29  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Certainly so, Mr bluedog. Especially "...frank with the French."

23 July 2011 at 09:46  
Anonymous non mouse said...

"So many threads and twines with uncertain sources and loose ends, ravellings and unravellings." Indeed, Mr. J, your images reflect the interweavings of our language and culture!

I like your application of 'uncertain sources.' Though our unelected "elites" pulled back at times, say under Henries IV, V, and VIII, others - like Edward IV, Mary's little boy James, and successors - favoured the enemy as much as Edward the Confessor ever did. The insinuating persistence is unrelenting; and, so often, only violence re-asserts the will of the British people.

Whence my continued resistance to the 'filosofies' (especially "marxist-deconstructionism") with which said enemies have riddled our present establishment. Of course one shuttle, the Frankfurt School, has also patched on other euro excrescences - like Zizek or Gramsci. But then, Rome/Italy and the Med. are ever worked into the design .... The nets with which they've trussed us into this mess. Those treaties. They're hidden in Rome, are they not?

P.S: Mr. bluedog - Mr. Clegg, of course, does not have British roots. He is a son of the traditional insinuators...

23 July 2011 at 09:55  
Blogger The Worker said...

Bred in the bone

Evil will pass and only Good remain at the appointed time. In succumbing to seduction Man lost Paradise; by embracing the Way he will re-enter and eat from the tree of Everlasting Life.

23 July 2011 at 11:46  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Indeed, non mouse, neither Mr nor Mrs Clegg is remotely British, and yet together they may perchance determine the fate of Britain. One senses that Mr Clegg's opinion of the British is matched only by that of Jack Straw.

Both are snakes in the grass.

23 July 2011 at 12:58  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

The Worker

If the I Am that I Am equates to being is being, don't you find we wander from the Way when we do to much doing, rather than being.

"Be still and know that I Am"

23 July 2011 at 13:05  
Blogger The Worker said...

Bred in the bone

It is the I AM that you are becoming. The Way is one of calm surrender, letting go, rapha to this unfolding.


23 July 2011 at 15:06  
Blogger len said...

Jesus said things would get very difficult and frightening, but He also said, “The one who endures to the end, that one will be kept safe.

Doesn`t sound much like serenely floating down the river to me.

23 July 2011 at 19:18  
Blogger The Worker said...

With faith one remains calm in the eye of the storm.

23 July 2011 at 20:14  
Blogger kakal said...

God's Word is written in all hearts
We are neither on an evolutionary path

18 August 2011 at 15:59  

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