Thursday, July 07, 2011

Cranmer’s phone hacked by News of the World

His Grace is shocked and appalled: he is demanding that the Prime Minister launch a full public investigation into the incident. Rupert Murdoch has said that phone hacking His Grace, even as he was burning at the stake, was ‘deplorable and unacceptable’. His Grace is offended and hurt, and is considering legal action.

It is one thing to hack the phones of scurvy politicians and self-absorbed celebrities who thrive on every column inch dedicated to their egocentric existence. But it quite another to eavesdrop on the dying and dead. Perhaps it should come as no surprise. It has become apparent that employees of News International have long targeted the close friends and relatives of the missing, murdered, and those who fall in combat. So why not a long dead archbishop?

Not many can bring themselves to care about Max Clifford, Chris Bryant, Andy Gray or Sienna Miller. But to hear that Milly Dowler’s phone was hacked, along with those belonging to the families of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, is deeply shocking. If it is true that the parents of Madeleine McCann were also hacked, along with relatives of 15-year-old Danielle Jones who was abducted and murdered in Essex in 2001 by her uncle Stuart Campbell, the actions are deplorable. It is disclosed today that the practise might even have extended to the victims of the July 7th bombings, and to the families of those who are dying for Queen and Country in Afghanistan and Iraq. If so, the perpetrators are beneath contempt.

But now it transpires that His Grace’s phone was also hacked – even as he placed his hand in the fire and declared: “And as for the Pope, I refuse him as Christ's enemy and anti-Christ, with all his false doctrine." Heads must now roll, just as they were wont to do in the good old days.

His Grace doesn’t care who. Just someone. It’ll help with the necessary retributive feeling; the need for a sacrifice for atonement by which we may all be reconciled. His Grace is sure News International can find a scapegoat from somewhere: Andy Coulson is probably still available.

Rebekah Brooks, Chief Executive of News International, retains the support of Mr Murdoch and the personal friendship of the Prime Minister. Yet she let slip in a Select Committee meeting in 2003 that she believed journalists were entitled to use covert methods if there was a strong public interest in the story. At one point she even admitted paying the police for such information. Andy Coulson, then her deputy at The Sun, swiftly interjected that they always ‘operated within the code of the law’. But the two statements were and are mutually exclusive: paying the police for information obtained covertly is manifestly outside the code of law. It is highly likely that Rebekah Brooks revealed the truth on this matter, which Andy Coulson then moved to obscure. Significantly, Met Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson has said News International have given Scotland Yard documents which include information relating to ‘inappropriate payments to officers’ in his force.

As companies announce they are cancelling advertising due to appear in this weekend's issue of the News of the World, it is clear that blood must be spilled, for without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness of sin. Those who have withdrawn their advertising include Ford, Vauxhall, Halifax, the Co-operative Group, Mitsubishi and Virgin Holidays. When companies like these suspend their marketing, entire pages of revenue are lost.

His Grace read yesterday that The End of the News of the World is Nigh.

But he’s heard it all before.

His worry is not for a single newspaper, or even for a major corporate like News International. His concern is for the reputation of the police and the freedom of the press. Those Met officers who are implicated or suspected must be immediately suspended and subjected to an independent inquiry: there must not be even a whiff of the police investigating themselves. Justice must be seen to be done. And we do not want a return to the Ministry of Information: we have the BBC for that. We do not want even a hint of state-imposed censorship, save for that which is necessary for the peace and security of the realm. We do not want the media to be coerced or cowed into taking an official line on any news story: God forbid that out of this morass would emerge statutory regulation of the press.

67 Comments:

Blogger Rebel Saint said...

"The end of the News of the World is nigh" ... love it.

7 July 2011 at 09:46  
Blogger English Viking said...

Police and journalists, doing immoral and illegal things for money?

In what way is this news?

7 July 2011 at 09:52  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Satire savage enough would need to go beyond the decorum of HA of "Yes, Minister" and further in the direction of Swift's "A Modest Proposal for Preventing the Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being a Burden on Their Parents or Country, and for Making Them Beneficial to the Publick".

But Witney Town Council may have done that well enough for the time being.

7 July 2011 at 10:16  
Anonymous JayBee said...

If a newspaper can succeed in corrupting police officers so can criminal or terrorist networks and foreign intelligence agencies.

7 July 2011 at 10:16  
Anonymous Voyager said...

May I refer Your Grace to:

Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000

1 Unlawful interception.E+W+S+N.I.
This section has no associated Explanatory Notes

(1)It shall be an offence for a person intentionally and without lawful authority to intercept, at any place in the United Kingdom, any communication in the course of its transmission by means of—

(a)a public postal service; or

(b)a public telecommunication system.

(2)It shall be an offence for a person—

(a)intentionally and without lawful authority, and

(b)otherwise than in circumstances in which his conduct is excluded by subsection (6) from criminal liability under this subsection,

to intercept, at any place in the United Kingdom, any communication in the course of its transmission by means of a private telecommunication system.


Bribery Act 2010

1Offences of bribing another personE+W+S+N.I.
This section has no associated Explanatory Notes

(1)A person (“P”) is guilty of an offence if either of the following cases applies.

(2)Case 1 is where—

(a)P offers, promises or gives a financial or other advantage to another person, and

(b)P intends the advantage—

(i)to induce a person to perform improperly a relevant function or activity, or

(ii)to reward a person for the improper performance of such a function or activity.

(3)Case 2 is where—

(a)P offers, promises or gives a financial or other advantage to another person, and

(b)P knows or believes that the acceptance of the advantage would itself constitute the improper performance of a relevant function or activity.


I really do hope The High Court will ensure that Acts of Parliament are upheld otherwise it will require the EU Commission to IMPOSE legislation on corrupt public officials which might be an act of gross hypocrisy

The Ancien Regime of Banking and Media is dissolving before our eyes...The Lord moves in mysterious ways

7 July 2011 at 10:23  
Anonymous Guzzibasher said...

"for with the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness of sin"

shouldn't that be: for without the shedding of blood...?

7 July 2011 at 10:51  
Blogger DAD said...

Perhaps burning a few at the stake would be a suitable response. It would certainly concentrate the mind.

7 July 2011 at 10:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people who engage in these activities have no shame. Its all about personal honour:

Blair has no personal honour and neither does Cameron - Brown is ill and should never have been PM.

Blair lied about the reason for the War on Iraq and he opened our borders for political gain.

Cameron lied when he said he would hold a referendum on our membership the EU and he is bailing out Greece via the IMF.

If the man at the top has no personal honour we are indeed lost.

Steve

7 July 2011 at 10:57  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

Why would you take a mobile phone with you to your own execution? Hoping for a last minute reprieve?

Birds don't carry mobile phones. We have no need for them. However most can shit from a great height on those at the News of the World responsible for this.

Personally, I'm flightless but do carry some influence with my feathered cousins the pigeon and dove.

7 July 2011 at 10:59  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Your Grace

Steady on.

‘It is one thing to hack the phones of scurvy politicians and self-absorbed celebrities who thrive on every column inch dedicated to their egocentric existence. But it quite another to eavesdrop on the dying and dead.’

The principle is vital.

If the politicians use this to destroy our country’s free press – we are finished as a democratic nation-state.

It would be far better to have a public inquiry (and if necessary followed by criminal prosecutions) with its lower standard of belief: the balance of probabilities test; i.e., more likley than not.

7 July 2011 at 11:09  
Anonymous Jon said...

YG, erudite as ever, although I'm not sure the bit about you being hacked at the beginning (unless you actually have been) is in terribly good taste.

Also, surely you are a celebrity (of the blogosphere)?

Oh and I'm stealing "the end of the news of the world is nigh". Just so you know.

7 July 2011 at 11:10  
Anonymous malvoisin said...

D singh

Our coutry's press is not free and has not been for a long time.

7 July 2011 at 11:13  
Blogger Windsor Tripehound said...

The only thing that surprises me about the revelation that some police officers take backhanders from the press is that anyone is surprised by it.

How often has someone in the public eye been arrested in the early hours of the morning and there "just happened" to be press photographers present? What a co-incidence!

7 July 2011 at 11:18  
Blogger Lord Lavendon said...

Your Grace,

State-imposed censorship is wrong, but so are the actions of the NOW, who have clearly been sticking two fingers up to the law for some time and have brought not just themselves into the gutter but also all the good journalists, who do act with integrity.

Brookes should go because as Truman once said "the buck stops here". There is no excuse to claim that she was on holiday when apparently the hackings of some of the people happened and therefore attempt to get off by placing the blame of all this on minions (who could presumably do what they wanted?).

The takeover of BskyB must now be halted as at present I cannot see that News International are "fit and proper" to run a flower stall, let along a listed corporation. The culture secretary is hiding behind rules and regulations, but if they really wanted to stop this, then I am sure that they would find a legal way to do so (just as Labour, flouting competition rules, found a way to merge Lloyds and Halifax to a mega bank in 2008).

The police also have a lot of questions to answer and this will lead to the same drop in reputation as journalists, although it is worse for the police because they are supposed to be the authority of the law. For every honest copper has now been tarnished by the actions of the greedy and corrupt.

Finally, Cameron must be wondering what made him hire Andy Coulson as his spin doctor and then director of the Downing Street spin machine (before he was pushed out). How many more errors of judgement has our prime minister made (that we don't yet know about) that will come back to haunt him and the conservative party?

7 July 2011 at 11:34  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lavendon,

are you a staff writer for the guardian? Cameron has nothing to do with this and is withou blame!

7 July 2011 at 11:54  
Anonymous bluedog said...

Mr Anonymous @ 11.54, in this instance Cameron is guilty until proven innocent, which is itself impossible because nobody will believe his testimomy or that of his witnesses Brooks and Coulson.

7 July 2011 at 12:06  
Blogger MFH said...

If the man at the top has no personal honour we are indeed lost.

Steve

7 July 2011 10:57


The "Man" at the top does have personal honour.All power is given me in heaven and on earth & Rev 19 "The Lord God Omnipotent reigneth"
If we trust in him we shall never be lost.

7 July 2011 at 12:22  
Anonymous DanJ0 said...

When people talk about their phones being hacked in this story, don't they just mean their voicemail has been hacked? I'm genuinely confused. There was a victim on the radio the other day worrying that his very private and grief-stricken conversations following a family loss immediately after the 7/7 atrocity were being listened in on. Not that just hacking voicemail isn't bad enough of course.

7 July 2011 at 12:22  
Blogger Timothy Belmont said...

Well said. The proprietorship of such titles must also be held culpable.

Ignorance - or negligence - of the Law is no excuse.

7 July 2011 at 12:28  
Anonymous Gay Anglican said...

This whole affair is a disgrace and I only pray that the investigation/inquiry is not a white wash like so many of the bliar/iraq ones.

7 July 2011 at 12:28  
Anonymous Union Baron said...

Funnily enough, it is a union baron which sums up the national feelings :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8283549.stm

7 July 2011 at 12:29  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Also genuinely confused:

"in this instance Cameron is guilty until proven innocent" (bluedog 12:06)

guilty of what?

7 July 2011 at 12:35  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

MrJ said 7 July 2011 12:35

Lord L stated 7 July 2011 11:34;
Finally, Cameron must be wondering what made him hire Andy Coulson as his spin doctor and then director of the Downing Street spin machine (before he was pushed out). How many more errors of judgement has our prime minister made (that we don't yet know about) that will come back to haunt him and the conservative party?.

Then this opinion was backed up by Bluedog.

Guilty of lack of probity in foresight and discernment. Cameron is making massive decisions based on his ability to understand problems facing the country and put solutions in place. Was he really unaware the choice of Coulson would not come back and bite him because if he couldn't, how is it Ernst could.

Not looking good my lad, is it?

Ernst

7 July 2011 at 12:55  
Anonymous Voyager said...

Blair lied about the reason for the War

So did Viscount Grey of Fallodon in 1914....which just goes to show how easily people are suckered

7 July 2011 at 12:57  
Anonymous Caedmon's Cat said...

I've hears rumours that Beelzebub has recently filed a complaint against New International because his voicemail has been hacked.
Do these people have ANY standards..?

7 July 2011 at 13:01  
Anonymous Jack Flash said...

Wait for the whitewash, a couple of sacrificial lambs plus a nonentity scapegoat, add a cup of confusion. Mix well with a hint of 'lost' evidence. Garnish with denials and finish with a sprinkle of lies.
Pop in a lukewarm investigation for a year, and hey presto!, pass the buck yap, yap, rabbit, rabbit.


Jack.

7 July 2011 at 13:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if Len's going to post with a quick quote from revelation, which shows Cameron to be a Roman Catholic and therefore part of the whore of bablyon?

7 July 2011 at 13:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, does the NOW scandal reveal anything about the 'end times?' . Come on Len! Give it a go!

7 July 2011 at 13:23  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? How long will mockers delight themselves in mockery, and fools hate knowledge?

7 July 2011 at 13:29  
Anonymous A Man for All Seasons said...

Archbishop Cranmer said ...

"But now it transpires that His Grace’s phone was also hacked – even as he placed his hand in the fire and declared: “And as for the Pope, I refuse him as Christ's enemy and anti-Christ, with all his false doctrine."

I know nothing of mobile phones and voicemails.

You really must let the past rest and accept you lived in difficult times were accussations of "treason" and "heresy" served the interests of men, not the rightful and divinely ordained responsibilities of Kings or Pontiffs.

You facilitated the divorce of Henry from Catherine. Along with Cromwell you promoted the authority of the King over the Church. When a Catholic came to the throne of England and the realm was reunited with Rome, you made statements inciting treason against her and heresy as seen by the Soveriegn.

The followers of Catholicism were no less guilty in promoting their interests in the name of the Church and many suffered a similar fate to you as the seasons changed.

Do look back in forgiveness and not in anger. You might find your spirit finds some peace if you do.

7 July 2011 at 13:47  
Anonymous uk Fred said...

Why should we be surprised that police officers have been seelling information to newspapers? Chief police officers have been selling information about motorists involved in accidents to 'accident management companies' who then sell the information on to lawyers. Sauce for the goose and all that. All police officers who have sold any information which was acquired in the course of their work, to any third party should be dismissed immediately without notice for gross misconduct, and any third party profits made should be deducted from their final payment or pension pot.

7 July 2011 at 13:49  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Mr Blofeld, as ever, has the answer (12:55): it was Mr Cameron who has been confused-- and more than was good for us, and now more than will be good for him -- unless Jack's premonition (13:19) carries the day.

It's all been got up as product placement of Hacking Jackets for men in all seasons -- now for women too.

"...any third party profits made should be deducted from their final payment or pension pot." said Fred (13:49): a good platform for a Puritan Party, in alliance with UKIP.

7 July 2011 at 14:12  
Anonymous berserker-nkl said...

The Great Guardian readers church - the BBC, are wetting themselves with delight about this affair and giving it the full monty in their hatred of Murdoch.

Where does it all stop?And what will be the next revelation - Buck Palace?
Will the guilty plods be sent to the Tower or retire on almost full pension?

7 July 2011 at 14:14  
Anonymous Greg said...

It's not only applicable to journalist and policemen, there are others doing illegal things for MONEY and POWER as well.

7 July 2011 at 14:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is anyone REALLY surprised by all of this?

7 July 2011 at 14:27  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So er how did you find out ? was a note left on the phone was fingerprints ? did you catch them in your house with the silent mod on ? if you have evidence as in facts then you should tell a police man! how ever I really doubt it what you most likely have is a feeling that something hasn't gone the way you want! so jumping on the media frenzy you must have been the victim of 'dark forces'!

7 July 2011 at 14:30  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

MrJ said 7 July 2011 14:12

Much too kind to Ernst, my boy but much appreciated.

""...any third party profits made should be deducted from their final payment or pension pot." said Fred (13:49): a good platform for a Puritan Party, in alliance with UKIP." Couldn't agree more. That's what we do to those nasty stigmatised drug dealers and criminals, is it not. What happened to the law of our fine land being blind towards the status of anyone of this country as all being equal and no favourites allowed. Rich, powerful and connected always treated differently than us poor plebs who try to uphold our laws. We need no new laws, just the enforcement of the existing, ta very much.

Greg said 7 July 2011 14:19

"It's not only applicable to journalist and policemen, there are others doing illegal things for MONEY and POWER as well."
Not even the half of it, my lad.


Anonymous Anonymous said 7 July 2011 14:27

"Is anyone REALLY surprised by all of this?"
WE ARE NOT but they are. They believe we should mind our own business whilst they get on with their's.

Ernst, my peeps

7 July 2011 at 14:40  
Anonymous Anon 2 said...

Well here's a thought. If they don't even pretend to respect their own laws, there's no reason why we idiots should. We just follow their example, don't we?

Chaos begets chaos. And none of them knows how to abort it.

7 July 2011 at 14:49  
Blogger D. Singh said...

Blofeld quoting Anon:

"Is anyone REALLY surprised by all of this?"

WE ARE NOT but they are. They believe we should mind our own business whilst they get on with their's.

Blofeld

Now that is a profound insight.

They, the elite, are genuinely surprised and shocked.

The elite began reeling under the destructive power of the Blog-sphere’s posters at tearing apart their Super-injunction defences. Now everyone knows who in the community is committing adultery and fornication.

And there lies the danger. If all this shuts down a free press (through ‘regulation’ passed by MPs) then the unravelling of all our liberties is at hand.

7 July 2011 at 14:55  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

MrJ

PS

The reason I despise Cameron more each day is that as he speaks he reveals himself to be that unimagined horror of being Blair and Brown, morphed into one.

Blair-like in that he likes the idea of going to war, war more than 'jaw, jaw', in places that are quite frankly, extremely bad for the health of our nation and has the smarm to convince it is 'in our interest's and the world's' for us to start a new 'freeing the people from dictatorship' conflict but for our nation to struggle financially to accomplish it.

Brown-like in that he likes to believe he knows how to spend our money better than we do. We are just accused of being 'hard hearted critics of his foreign aid policy' rather than that he loves spending money against our agreeal and pompously striding the world stage whilst hospitals are closed, disabled people worry if they will be cared for anymore and we haven't got a pot to %&^^ in. Look at the money being raked in by the treasury on green taxes alone! Will it be spent wisely? Ernst's jacksie it will!

UGGGHHHH.

What could be more horrendous.

Ernst, my fine lad.

7 July 2011 at 14:56  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

D. Singh said 7 July 2011 14:55

Nice to hear from you, old boy.

"They, the elite, are genuinely surprised and shocked.

The elite began reeling under the destructive power of the Blog-sphere’s posters at tearing apart their Super-injunction defences. Now everyone knows who in the community is committing adultery and fornication."

INDEED. Is it not similar to the MP expenses scandal. Do you believe that mp's would have volunteered to go on question time and be savaged and mocked by the public if they weren't surprised. WE DO CARE and will do something once it comes out. All we need is the 'Perfect Storm' such as this, involving relatives of ordinary, dead people like us (Milly Dowler, 7/7 victims families etc), not celebrities, overpaid footballers, politicians and other miscreants.

"And there lies the danger. If all this shuts down a free press (through ‘regulation’ passed by MPs) then the unravelling of all our liberties is at hand."

Slowly, slowly, catchy monkey.

Ernst, my dear fellow.

7 July 2011 at 15:11  
Anonymous JayBee said...

The phrase “Chipping Norton” has suddenly become highly tweetable. The source of all this excitement appears to be:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100095686/david-cameron-is-in-the-sewer-because-of-his-news-international-friends/

Hackgate may well prove to be the turning point in Camerons political career.

7 July 2011 at 15:12  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

JayBee said

"Hackgate may well prove to be the turning point in Camerons political career."

Wonder if Clegg will ride to his rescue with support or let him drown...HE HE HE.

Man who stand by liber long enough get to see his enemy come floating plast!

Wise people, the chinese and makers of fine fast food cuisine!

E S Blofeld

7 July 2011 at 15:18  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Think of the 'compo' Your Grace, and for once, deservedly so too. A couple of months cruising the Adriatic perhaps? :o)

7 July 2011 at 15:29  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Mr Blofeld (14:56) True enough. No wonder HG mentions "...feeling a little melancholy today, what with ...the general air of pessimism hanging around..." (The Iron Lady, 3:08)

Mr JayBee (15:12)

Years ago we took some children to a Christmas panto at Chipping Norton : "Aladdin", set in "Chipping Naughty-town". Never forgotten it.

7 July 2011 at 16:06  
Anonymous MrJ said...

James Murdoch's announcement of the closure of NoT now being reported shows they are now having a good laugh on the public and pols -- but who will have the last?

7 July 2011 at 17:05  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

"And none of them knows how to abort it."

I'm saying nowt in case I start the History Channel Embodied In A Person off again. :)

7 July 2011 at 17:13  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how many years the full extent of the “phone hacking scandal” has been known about but not made public until now? And why would that be do you suppose?

I only pray that all the so-called “news” papers will be tarred with the same brush, as they deserve to be. They are all part of the same controlled media scam that pretends to be siding with their “readers” concerns about issues such as membership of the EU, “human rights” laws abuses and mass immigration but then continues to promote and support the same corrupt and lying Lib/Lab/Con party whilst simultaneously discrediting any alternative.

Don’t waste your money buying any of the filthy rags if you want to help accelerate their declining sales, bring about their financial collapse and fling more members of the Marxist NUJ out into the gutters where they belong.

7 July 2011 at 17:13  
Blogger ENGLISHMAN said...

Vodaphone has the answer to all of this hacking malarkey,it only works at peculiar times and unusual places,why one can go for days without it working at all.

7 July 2011 at 17:36  
Anonymous JayBee said...

So NOTW is being closed down.
The phrase "clearing ones desk" could be about to take on a whole new meaning. Will we wake up to the smell of coffee or overheating shredders?

7 July 2011 at 17:48  
Anonymous MrJ said...

NoW closure: not unconnected with legal process for disclosure in the civil litigation, and the magnitude of the claims for damages and tactics for settlement. Also, closure may have some side-effects on tax liabilities.

It will be possible to say The Sun also rises on Sunday, thanks to NI's ingenuity.

Opportunism, recalling Becky Sharp of Vanity Fair.

What are the odds being offered for NI's Becky getting away with it?

This could all be a character-building exercise for our Dave, H2B.

7 July 2011 at 18:40  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

MrJ said brilliantly 7 July 2011 18:40(as always).

"It will be possible to say The Sun also rises on Sunday, thanks to NI's ingenuity."
Good Lord, rock/hard place springs to mind.

"What are the odds being offered for NI's Becky getting away with it?"
What on earth has she got taped or photocopies of that they (Murdies), would sacrifice a newspaper established 168 years ago.

"This could all be a character-building exercise for our Dave, H2B."

Indeed, LOL, INDEED. You are on top form, MrJ. (Ernsty doffing his cap)

Ernst

7 July 2011 at 19:26  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone has a gripe with News International Ltd ,it is Chris Bryant.
I think it has less to do with Milly Dowler though and more to to with a now very infamous pair of underpants.

7 July 2011 at 19:28  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

News of the World - gone.

The Sun on Sunday - arrives.

And the difference is .....?

7 July 2011 at 19:44  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Don't you just luv Alastair Campbell.

13 years of toady to Murdoch's and yet he has the genitalia to state in twitter today;
"Vol 3 of my diaries Power and Responsibility published today. Trying out new and interesting strategy...) proving they were not mutually exclusive things whilst he was blowing guff into Blair and Brown's lughole.Could the new strategy be being disingenuous..nothing new there matey boy.

Take it Vol 4 is Irony and Shameful Behaviour.

May I humbly suggest a sub title.

The wicked rascally shameful conduct of the morally bankrupt.

Ernst

7 July 2011 at 19:47  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Has Big Brother turned on itself, a few good men of integrity could have a ball with this.

If we get a good sweep out with a new broom Justice can be done, without censorship.

7 July 2011 at 19:50  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Mr Blofeld (aka Ernst &c.)

Too kind.

We may be sure replacing NoW by Sunday Sun has long been a game-plan option awaiting the moment.

Closing the paper means ending or transferring contracts of employment and other contracts and obligations, while retaining the title to the title (for future use or revival as commercial expediency or other purpose suits the owner).

It's not yet half time and too early to say whether the Dodgers will beat the Duffers.

Meanwhile, police inertia must amount to wasting police time. Will any of them be turning Queen's evidence before they die of sick leave? It looks like there will be a long time before evidence is ready to place before a jury.

7 July 2011 at 20:16  
Anonymous bluedog said...

MrJ @ 12.35 asked, 'guilty of what?'

This communicant lacks the technical knowledge to understand the mechanics of hacking but in any event draws your attention to Mr Voyager's comment of 10.23.

If Mr Cameron has exremely close association with two individuals, Brooks and Coulson who are at the epicentre of the hacking entity, News Intl, is it not likely that he has been offered politically beneficial information at some point by his associates?

We are unlikely to get an answer to this question, and other questions that flow from it, until Mr English Viking is tasked with water-boarding Mr Cameron persuant to an order issued by a People's Disciplinary Tribunal convened by His Grace or any other competent party.

7 July 2011 at 21:52  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Thanks for guidance Mr Bluedog (21:52).

If I understand Mr Voyager's comment of 10.23, the public prosecutor should be looking for evidence for Case 1 and/or 2 charges. The latest news about Andy and Becky and other boys and girls in the playground suggests that there may be enough crown evidence emerging from volunteers (including some accused) to overcome want of diligence on part of the police and lead to convictions. But then again, funny things can happen to evidence on the way to the jury -- and before verdict -- and on appeal. And at some stage yumin rites will be invoked.

All is in the timing: general election here, US President there (gun-running and the natural-born question), and of course those Haroldeque "events" which happen here, there and anywhere (unaided by Mr English Viking whose genial comments are ever welcome).

8 July 2011 at 00:41  
Anonymous Toby the Jug said...

bLUEDOG SAID ...
"If Mr Cameron has exremely close association with two individuals, Brooks and Coulson who are at the epicentre of the hacking entity, News Intl, is it not likely that he has been offered politically beneficial information at some point by his associates?"

An outrageous assertion! Brooks and Coulson, yes. News Intl, yes. But to jump to "is it not likely that he (Cameron) has been offered etc ..." is going way too far.

Ask - is it not possible? Not - is not it likely?

I think it possible, all things are in politics, but highly, highly unlikely. It was clearly common knowledge amongst journalists and possibly MI5, and one suspects senior politicians. Unlikely they'd risk leaving sensitive information on voicemail or accept any intelligence coming from it.

Mind you, bet the News of the World knows the answer!

8 July 2011 at 01:25  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Bred in the bone @ 19:50.

I agree with you. However, after the coup d'etat, I wonder just who will be left sitting in the palace this coming winter?

Whose is the revolution exactly; and will we still be serfs afterwards?

8 July 2011 at 03:13  
Blogger Whingecommander said...

No prizes for guessing why both Clegg and Cameron are trying to avoid a full and independent judicial inquiry into this horrid mess.

Can’t upset Uncle Murdoch now can we?

8 July 2011 at 05:37  
Anonymous judith said...

YG, I regret your comment (like so many others) that no-one cares about 'celebrities''phones being hacked.

I may not like these people or the way they earn their money, but they have the same right to privacy and respect as the rest of us.

What message has it sent to the populace at large that it is ok to harass the vulnerable if they're a bit cheap? Has it led to the notion that it's ok to harass the mentally or physically afflicted? And then, that it is ok to harass anyone if it gives you power or makes you an easy few quid?

Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, and those who are powerful and influential in the worlds of politics and media have allowed this corruption to spread far and wide. To some extent, it is a case of 'the biter bit', but we would be naive to assume that the current bloodbath will clear the air.

The media and the police will still have information on politicians that could ruin their careers - and vice versa!

8 July 2011 at 06:56  
Anonymous MrJ said...

Uncle Toby at the Jug & Bottle (with an aside to Judith)

Ostler! Be no ostrich, look to the horses...

Horse sense, horseplay, bit between teeth, point to point, meetin' an' huntin'. horse feathers and Barney Google with Spark Plug the horse.

Outrageous? I'll say.

8 July 2011 at 07:50  
Anonymous bluedog said...

MrJ, I do declare you seem to be a fan of Jorrocks. 'Hellish dark and smells of cheese', eh?

8 July 2011 at 08:06  
Blogger len said...

The phone hacking scandal is just the tip of the iceberg.

Underneath is a hotbed of corruption which the 'authorities' afraid to open, bit like Pandora`s box.

12 July 2011 at 17:40  
Anonymous Oswin said...

Len : exactly so, who yet knows what there is to know?

The deletion of several thousand potentially incriminating emails: an attempt to hide the crime, or to hide the secrets?

Can the light of truth penetrate so murky a depth when, no one knows if THEIR dirty little secret might float to the surface?

15 July 2011 at 13:54  

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