Monday, August 08, 2011

Norman Scarth, 85-year-old war hero, abused at Her Majesty’s pleasure

His Grace heard vaguely of the case of Norman Scarth some weeks ago. Apparently, Mr Scarth recorded a court hearing, and was subsequently jailed for six months for doing so. We are not in the United States of America, where court hearings are not only routinely recorded but broadcast on primetime TV as light entertainment: this is the United Kingdom, where the court room is the judge’s private fiefdom and where the cameras may not flash at all. All visual depictions are by in-house sketch artists whose work is interpretive. Court proceedings are, of course, recorded by the courts, so it’s not as though every word isn’t made available. But you’ll have to pay several hundred pounds for a copy of the transcript (with no way of knowing if the content has been redacted).

For whatever reason, Norman Scarth, a naval war veteran who helped defeat the forces of Fascism and Nazism, decided to make a covert audio recording of a particular hearing. His Grace doesn’t know why, but neither is he concerned: Mr Scarth broke the law; of that there is no doubt. But six months incarceration for an 85-year-old is rather like subjecting Oscar Wilde to a few years' hard labour: it breaks the man. And when you consider that some of our former MPs who fiddled the taxpayer of tens of thousands of pounds were sentenced to less, there is slight disquiet and sense of disproportionality.

Like millions of Europeans today, Mr Scarth is dissatisfied (an understatement) with the powers that be and with the increasing loss of freedom and democracy. And it appears he has form. Two years ago a senior judge branded him a ‘sordid public nuisance’ who shouted ‘anything, however offensive, insulting, threatening, racist, homophobic, sexist, or downright barmy’ in order to get a local election result overturned. Richard Mawrey QC told him that he was a ‘crazed old man’ who subjected voters to ‘manic abuse’:
Judge Mawrey described Mr Scarth as a man convinced he was the victim of a conspiracy, which was tested further upon conviction of wounding in 2001 and served four years in prison, followed by two years in a psychiatric hospital.

He said: “In Mr Scarth’s universe he is the noble fighter for justice and the rule of law who, despite appalling levels of official persecution, has refused to be silenced and continues the struggle, bloody but unbowed. In the real world, inhabited by the rest of us, Mr Scarth is a disturbed, clearly paranoid and occasionally violent old man who is a persistent minor public irritant.”
And so we are in the intractable dichotomy of one side believing that the politicians, police and courts are overly authoritarian, subverting democracy and limiting freedom, while the other contends that the state authorities are upholding democracy in the righteous exercise of power.

His Grace would like to remind Richard Mawrey QC of the words of Lord Justice Sedley on 23rd July 1999, who championed the rights of people to express their views, and quoted Socrates and two famous Quakers in doing so. There is no breach of the peace if what is said is merely offensive. Lord Justice Sedley said: “Free speech includes not only the offensive, but the irritating, the contentious, the eccentric, the heretical, the unwelcome and the provocative, providing it does not tend to provoke violence.”

The world has seen too many examples of state control and censorship of unofficial utterances. Mr Scarth may well be offensive, irritating, contentious, eccentric, heretical, unwelcome and provocative, but it is His Grace’s judgement that society is all the better for such people: freedom reigns while they spout their views. We draw the line at prejudice, irrational discrimination or incitement to violence. Or we used to, before Labour introduced the concept of ‘hate speech’.

That aside, His Grace has been informed that Mr Scarth is having a hard time of it. His friends and supporters are becoming increasingly concerned for his wellbeing and safety. His Grace will set aside the irrational ramblings of his treatment being akin to a ‘gulag’ or ‘worse than the gas chambers’, for such absurd hyperbole does not help the cause. As we know, the blogosphere is replete with all that is hyped-up, exaggerated, fabricated and distorted.

The issue here is that Norman Scarth is apparently being treated inhumanely. While we bend over backwards to accommodate Islamic prayers and keep bacon off the menu; while we free the Lockerbie-bombing mass murderer on compassionate grounds; while we rush out to buy Kentucky Fried Chicken for escaped prisoners encamped on the prison roof – all to preserve their inviolable ‘human rights’ – we incarcerate our own war veterans with little regard for their humanity and dignity. Mr Scarth clearly believes that he is serving his country by his actions: the prison authorities are allegedly depriving him of medication and torturing him by keeping him in solitary confinement in a cold cell and forcing him to exercise for an hour every day or not at all. At 85, an hour of exercise is beyond his physical ability.

Mr Scarth is due to spend Christmas behind bars, and not scheduled for release until 25th January 2012. Here is his address should you wish to write to him:

Prisoner A1903CF
D-Wing 240
2 Gloucester Terrace
Stanningley Road
Leeds
LS12 2TJ

His Grace is informed that the prison authorities filter the mail, so it cannot be overly political in nature (though it is not at all clear what must be censored). He is also informed that the only politician to have shown any interest in this case is the Liberal Democrat John Hemming MP. Good for him. We are constantly told that our prisons are so bursting at the seams and that we must consider plea-bargaining and early release for murderers, rapists and paedophiles. And yet this frail, old man is doing time because he recording a court hearing. Was there really no alternative?

57 Comments:

Blogger Daddy said...

"Court proceedings are, of course, recorded by the courts, so it’s not as though every word isn’t made available."

Not in a family court, of course. Not only are hearings secret but no records are kept on outcomes. The judge who stripped me of defined contact with my son was asked in advance for a transcript if the hearing, for which I was not present, and not only did he not do so, he never even gave an explanation of his decision! Contempt is regularly punished for such cases as this, but conversely, mothers breaching undertakings regarding their children always get off because to penalise a mother is to penalise the child, we are told.

I will write to the gentleman concerned. I hope others will join me.

8 August 2011 10:46  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

Is this chap a relative of English Viking? A long lost uncle, perhaps?

Like you I don't know the full facts or details of this case. It does sound inappropriate to imprison an 85 year old for this offence.

However, let's not make him into a hero or a saint of free speech and democracy. The guy does seem a little 'off the wall' and a little dangerous.

A senior judge wouldn't brand him a ‘sordid public nuisance’ who shouted offensive, insulting, threatening, racist, homophobic, sexist remarks without some cause. A ‘crazed old man’ who subjected others to ‘manic abuse’.

It also seems from your article he was convicted of a wounding in 2001and served four years in prison, followed by two years in a psychiatric hospital.

Not the stuff of heros and I wouldn't recommend feeding his 'cause' and apparent paranoia by writing to him in prison. It might make matters worse. He should be released, I agree, and receive proper oversight in the community.

8 August 2011 10:58  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

It's a similar philiosophy to the problem of the infamous Statistics Act of the Labout government of 1948. Most states have something like this, a requirement to compel its citizens to complete acres of forms for nobody's real benefit. But the Labour government of the day decided to hang this on a Criminal regime rather than a civil one, different from everyone else.

So the result is that the small overworked business owner can be given form and sent to jail for failure to fill in a form.

For what? For statistics. Once again, no question of leniency, plea bargaining or anyone, into the clink you go my son.

Rioting and looting are far more condoned, it seems...will the footage of our new citizens calmly helping themselves to all manner of goodies in Tottenham result in any retropsective arrests?

8 August 2011 10:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will write to him as well, all the way from Australia. This man deserves to know that there are many who condemn this ridiculous decision. Six months jail for an 85 year old man who recorded court proceedings? The real crime is incarcerating him at all.

8 August 2011 10:59  
Blogger The Heresiarch said...

Why was he locked up? Well, there was the incident in 2001 when he attacked a bailiff with a chainsaw and got six years. So not someone of previous good character, leaving out all the "public nuisance" business.

The six month sentence sounds excessive, but perhaps there were aggravating factors. Presumably he will be appealing.

As for his age, Bertrand Russell - not really a public nuisance in Scarth's league - went on a CND march in the early 1960s and got himself arrested. He was jailed. "My client is ninety years old!" pleaded his barrister. "Then he's old enough to know better," replied the judge.

8 August 2011 11:09  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

I would like to know who the old boy "wounded." A burglar or mugger perhaps? Given the fact that the UK Justice system is a complete farce with rapists, murderers, rioters and looters being let off on a technicality or a plea bargain, this old chap has exposed to real rot - the court is the "private fiefdom" of the Judge and he doesn't like the thought of having his zany decisions and poor judgement being exposed.

It's time to reform the whole system, the selection of judges is based on patronage and nepotism, not competence and qualification. They are selected for their political sympathies (Think a certain Cherie Blair QC) and their networks of friends in the legal coterie. Even when they do act with "common sense" the "guidance" from legal nonentities in Whitehall and even from completely unqualified civil servants, tie their hands as to what length of sentence can be awarded. This is why a burglar may get three months for aggravated assault and burglary and his victim twelve months because he put up a fight...

8 August 2011 11:12  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

I meant to add - the "Family Courts" operate in complete defiance of the Rules of Evidence set out in PACE or the Criminal Justice Acts. Hearsay is accepted, the normal tests of "reasonable doubt" and cross examination are suspended and so is the right of the defence to see and hear all the evidence against them.

You will NOT find 'justice' in any "Family Court" - they operate entirely on the precept that the accused is guilty and must produce proof to show his/her innocence without being able to see what evidence is held against them.

8 August 2011 11:17  
Anonymous Old Grumpy said...

Yes, he may be an objectionable old s*d, however I don't think that he's burned down any buildings or looted any shops.

Those things are OK, of course, in our socialist utopia. As his Grace has said, those crimes may clearly be laid at the feet of the government's economic policies.

His only mistake was to be white, and male. If he was black, muslim, female or gay, then he'd have the whole human rights apparachnik falling over themselves him. As it stands, he can rot in jail for all they care

8 August 2011 11:26  
Blogger The Minister for Public Enlightenment said...

Unfortunately Mr Scarth's past behaviour has not been confined to peaceful protest. The use of a chainsaw seems a trifle extreme even when defending ones abode against invasion by bailiffs.
http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/central-leeds/six_years_for_chainsaw_pensioner_1_2064093

However he has served his sentence for that and we must consider the current matter of recording court proceedings. This is not a victimless crime. Oh no. The judges nose has been put badly out of joint. But six months, at his age? I find this disproportionate and totally unacceptable. He could die behind bars.

8 August 2011 11:51  
Blogger Autonomous Mind said...

Your Grace, offending against the Judge of the Court is the most heinous crime possible. At least in the eyes of the Judge.

Presumably that is why Judges are happy to apply heavy punishment to such offenders, while those who commit crimes against ordinary people in society are treated with greater leniency.

Our quasi-feudal system needs to be broken up and replaced with something that is more manifestly just.

8 August 2011 11:56  
Anonymous tory boys never grow up said...

From what is said here it doesn't appear that prison is the right place for Mr Scarth. There are better ways of protecting both society and Mr Scarth, judges are meant to be capable of using a little judgement.

8 August 2011 12:22  
Anonymous English Viking' long lost uncle said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

8 August 2011 12:44  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr English Viking,

There is no need at all to insult other communicants of His Grace's blog. Please refrain from doing so and exercise some self control.

8 August 2011 12:51  
Anonymous Flocky said...

He will get time off for good behaviour, if he behaves. He presumably had the chance to get a law degree at an earlier point in his life, so if he had taken the opportunity and become a Judge himself then his behaviour would not be in question and he would instead find he had the protection of the legal system rather than facing incarceration. He has no one to blame but himself.

8 August 2011 13:21  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

Flocky

He was fighting for his country when he might have been furthering his education. A fight that meant people like you could receive an education.

The guy is clearly troubled and walking a line between responsible and non-responsible behaviour.

8 August 2011 13:26  
Anonymous Flocky said...

Dodo the dude

Well Dodo clearly I didn't receive an education so his fight was in vain.

As for fighting for his country he should have let the owners do that, like he had a choice.

OK so hes an old codger put him in an open prison then.

8 August 2011 13:39  
Anonymous Paul said...

Whatever happened to justice tempered with mercy ? This old gentleman deserved better treatment !!

8 August 2011 14:17  
Blogger English Viking said...

12:51!!!!!

I'll have an apology from you Sir!

I have not made a comment on this particular post, and you are most sincerely mistaken to attribute whatever was said to me.

Retract your slur, Sir.

8 August 2011 14:41  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace,

You now have had the same amount of time to reply as you took to remove an offending post by someone else and accuse me of posting it.

Check the ip's, then I'll be pleased to hear your apology.

8 August 2011 14:50  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

Mr English Viking,

Yes, His Grace apologises profusely. On closer examination, the offensive post came from one calling himself English Viking' (sic) Long Lost Uncle. If he reappears and repeats the offence, he will be barred. It is very easy to do with Blogger's new spam filter which, while occasionally over-zealosly dumping legitimate comment in the moderation box, permits His Grace to direct anyone's contributions directly into Spam. Wonderful.

8 August 2011 14:52  
Blogger English Viking said...

Your Grace,

Say no more old chap. Understandable that you might suspect me of an 'indiscretion'. :-)

8 August 2011 14:59  
Anonymous Oliver Sacks said...

His Grace said "English Viking(sic) Long lost Uncle".

And who used that phrase in the comments above? Why Mr Dodo! I think that explains it all...

8 August 2011 15:08  
Blogger English Viking said...

Oliver,

I had also noted that fact. I'm afraid there is insufficient evidence to prosecute, though.

8 August 2011 15:15  
Blogger English Viking said...

On the matter of the post.

This fellow is either mentally ill, in which case he should be in an hospital or cared for at home, or he is simply a cantankerous old git (I hope they don't start licking people up for that, *Gulps*) or he may even be telling the truth.

It matters not which one of the above is correct. An absolute disgrace to incarcerate an old man for such a piffling offence. Open a local newspaper this evening, doesn't matter which one, and you'll find a story about Chavvy McStab, pleading guilty to assaulting his pregnant (by another man) girlfriend Chardonnay, whilst in a drug-fuelled rage, whilst on bail for burglary, with 157 other offences taken into consideration, getting a £50.00 fine, to be deducted from his benefits.

The Judge should be in prison for impersonating an officer of the Law.

8 August 2011 15:25  
Anonymous CRUX SANCTI PATRIS BENEDICTI said...

This reminds me of the case of the 74 year old pro-lifer, Edward Atkinson, who was jailed and refused medical treatment for sending pictures of an abortion to a hospital which carried out abortion.

8 August 2011 15:43  
Blogger I am Stan said...

Your Grace,

Does seem harsh, for such an elderly chap, he may not live another six months!

Take away his Worthers that`ll show him,I`m trying not to be unkind but he`s old enough and I would have thought wise enough to know better and keep himself out of jail, especially as he`s already had a taste of porridge, silly the old fool!

8 August 2011 15:43  
Blogger Captain Ranty said...

I'd like to say a simple thank you for highlighting this mans case.

Thank you, Your Grace.

CR.

8 August 2011 15:52  
Anonymous non mouse said...

Yes, Your Grace. Thank you.
It so represents of the present state of Denmark --- no gratitude or freedom for the very people who've spent a lifetime fighting to preserve freedom.

#1 head honcho - the one who's busy demolishing whatever's left of our - is he still off in euroland, playing tennis?

8 August 2011 16:19  
Anonymous Shacklefree said...

I arrived late but English Viking's earlier comment really made me chuckle. Actually it was more like a hearth laugh. Keep it up.

8 August 2011 16:31  
Blogger Bred in the bone said...

Norman was at the Wirral Court which got taken over by the British Constitution Group.

He was probably recording this Court in connection with the Lawful Rebellion.

He should not have been in the Court at all, stuff the Judges and stuff the Government.

8 August 2011 16:57  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

English Viking
"Dodo the Dude said...
Is this chap a relative of English Viking? A long lost uncle, perhaps?"

Oliver Sacks said...
"His Grace said "English Viking(sic) Long lost Uncle".
And who used that phrase in the comments above? Why Mr Dodo! I think that explains it all..."

Someone's seeking to stir the pot!

Not guilty of impersonation. Some idiot obviously got the idea from my post which was intended to be humerous.

8 August 2011 17:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're being ageist.

Why should age determine sentence rather than the crime?

8 August 2011 17:44  
Anonymous Anon 2 said...

What crime?
Distrusting the travesty of Justice, the letter of a corrupt law, that a foreign power imposes on us?

Maybe you have to be older (and wiser) to understand what's going on.

8 August 2011 17:50  
Blogger English Viking said...

Dodo,

You need to check your knowledge or anatomy, or that of your adjectives, not sure which;-)

8 August 2011 18:13  
Blogger English Viking said...

BITB,

That's the spirit! Stuff 'em.

8 August 2011 18:17  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

When the Inspector General was searching for a blog name, he's relieved he didn't come across...

‘sordid public nuisance’

8 August 2011 18:37  
Anonymous Sabine K McNeill said...

Well done, His Grace, for getting to the nub of things, once again!!!

What's to hide in UK courts while the US ones are happy to broadcast, especially in times of internet and video?

We've seen sooooooooo many fake court orders, falsified transcripts and other white collar crimes, that it is obvious to those who SEE that law and order have been replaced by crime and disorder.

See http://bit.ly/qJQ1ww for a bit more on Norman Scarth. For he is not just a prisoner number. He is a man with more conscience and integrity than many judges I have heard about and come across!

Norman can be emailed via EmailAPrisoner [http://www.emailaprisoner.com/] citing A1903CF.

Sabine
Web Publisher
http://victims-unite.net

8 August 2011 19:31  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

English Viking

You'll have to explain your advice about my grammar - again.

Ps
Do you think he might be a relative?

8 August 2011 20:31  
Blogger English Viking said...

Dodo,

It should read '...OF anatomy...'

You incorrectly spelled 'humorous' as 'humerous', which is a bit like 'humerus', a bone in one's arm.

Oh, forget it.

Who a relative? To whom? Christ, to me? I hope so. Me to some long lost uncle? Be nice if he was rich, I suppose. I didn't see what was written before it was taken down, so I don't know how bad it was, but the fact it got taken down might be a sign of some distant connection in the bloodline, perhaps?

8 August 2011 23:21  
Anonymous One Voice Group said...

If we're all connected and as One in God's eyes, then why this separatist thinking and treatment to an old man who's outspokenness and freedom of expression is misunderstood ?
Where is the tolerance and latitude that is called for in the wise words "love one another" ?
Where is the forgiveness and application of 'The Law of seeing' the true nature of Man?
There is no place that any of us can go where God's love is not there for us. Isn't it time we all joined and spoke out against the tyrants and despots who are running this two-tier system which exempts certain members of Society from being treated in the same way as the rest of us? And where minor 'offences' get severely punished and major crimes go unmentioned ?

Please can His Grace contact Dominic Grieve and ask for an immediate release of this passionate Veteran, Norman Scarth, who at least has his heart in the right place and is actually a very kind-hearted individual?
Liz Watson
Founder - One Voice Action Group

9 August 2011 00:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest serious organised crime in England is within the civil courts where lots of people dont realise nearly all the judgements are written out ( fiddled ) before the trial has even taken place !
So it does not matter what you say at the trial, or how much you have paid a solicitor or barrister.

Norman openly calls the courts corrupt and there is over whelming evidence they are.

The chain saw event he was being wrongly repossessed and was cowling in the corner of his bedroom with a chain saw that was not switched on , when the bailiff and Police broke in and he and witness,s say he was the one that was attacked.

9 August 2011 03:13  
Anonymous CRUX SANCTI PATRIS BENEDICTI said...

In Canada, grandmother Linda Gibbons has already spent over 10 years in jail for peaceful picketing of an abortion clinic.

9 August 2011 06:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those who think that Norman is some silly old buffer really ought to read of Norman's trials and tribulations at the hands of the disgraceful judiciary of this country.
http://normanscarth.blogspot.com/

Nick Chance

PS - Thank you Your Grace for shedding some light into this dark and sordid corner of what goes on in our courts today in the name of "Justice". If those of our forefathers who gave the ultiamte sacrificecould see how the prize of independence and freedom has been

9 August 2011 07:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If those of our forefathers who gave the ultimate sacrifice could see how the prize of independence and freedom has been valued so low by successive Governments at westminster and Whitehall they would be turning in their graves. Well done Norman for staging a fightback all these years.

9 August 2011 08:00  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Scarth still has the guts to stand up for the country he fought for. Millions of us are too spineless to do or say anything against the corrupt and treacherous Lib/Lab/Con EU puppets that rule us.

9 August 2011 09:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people posting on here and parroting the official lies against Norman have obviously never dealt with the real Nazi apparatus that is the UK judicial system today.

I know Norman personally, and he did not commit any such offense as he was "fitted up" for in 2001.

He has been under state persecution and even attempted murder on two separate occasions by the "powers that be", for exposing judicial corruption.

You all better wake up fast and smell the coffee, because the EU dictatorship is now in the final stages of implementing its control grid over Britain.

Mass murder and chaos are coming.

9 August 2011 18:58  
Anonymous Cllr Chris Cooke said...

Archbiship. Thank you for your well put stand for decency. You are clearly a good man with some courage to speak out. I hope more good men will rally to Mr Scarth. I hope the Church will take back from the state its proper role to lead people, and to condemn immorality, injustice, greed and the plain evil of over-oppressive state control.

9 August 2011 19:55  
Blogger Dodo the Dude said...

Anonymous ... whoever you are ...

Do stop promoting Mr Scarth as a cult figure for freedom and in the process encouraging this troubled elderly man for your own narrow political purposes.

It's unseemly.

10 August 2011 15:42  
Blogger Anajinn said...

AN OBSERVER’S REPORT OF THE COURT INCIDENT
WHICH LED TO NORMAN’S ARREST


On 25 July 2011, Norman (85) and I went into Courtroom 5 in Bradford Crown Court to listen to a case. We sat in the public gallery, which is separated from the body of the court and partitioned by a glass panel, next to the defendant’s mother (93). Both these elderly people have hearing difficulties, therefore the Court’s support worker was requested to provide ‘hearing loops’. The ‘loops’ were not made available before the hearing started. None of us could properly hear the proceedings therefore I stood up to hear better. The judge, Jonathan Rose, immediately ordered me to sit down. I informed him that the ‘hearing loops’ had not been provided for the elderly people and I could not hear either. I asked whether we could move closer. Judge Rose ignored this and ordered me to sit down or leave the court. He was not at all sympathetic and was quite aggressive. I sat down and whispered my complaint to the court official that the hearing should not have started until she had supplied the ‘loops’. She apologised to me for not providing them nor being able to interrupt the judge to do so.

Norman decided to record the proceedings with an audio-video device (knowing that court transcripts can be edited). A support worker who was sat behind us alerted Judge Rose who then ordered Norman to hand it over so that the contents could be forensically examined. Norman denounced the judge and the support worker. Judge Rose issued instructions for the police to arrest Norman for ‘contempt of court’. He was handcuffed and taken away.

A ‘hearing loop’ was then provided for the defendant’s mother. After the hearing, Norman was brought back to the courtroom in handcuffs and represented by a court-appointed barrister, Oliver Jarvis of Exchange Chambers, Manchester. Norman issued an apology through Mr Jarvis (for what he had called the support worker, but not for recording). Judge Rose ordered that Norman be detained overnight and brought back for sentencing the following day (26 July).

Norman liked Oliver Jarvis but chose to represent himself on 26 July.

Outcome: Six months imprisonment and one year ban from entering court premises.

JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT FOR THOSE THAT THINK NORMAN IS A DELUDED OLD MAN ALONG WITH HIS FRIENDS. NORMAN IS THE SUBJECT OF ABUSE BY VARIOUS AUTHORITIES AND HIS ONLY CRIME IS THAT HE HAS BEEN EXPOSING MATTERS, FOR WHICH HE IS CONSISTENTLY DULY PUNISHED - MOST OFTEN, AS YOU CAN SEE, WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. the above statement was provided by an observer to the process

11 August 2011 15:29  
Blogger DanJ0 said...

"Norman denounced the judge and the support worker. Judge Rose issued instructions for the police to arrest Norman for ‘contempt of court’. He was handcuffed and taken away."

Not a great idea, denouncing the judge in his own court.

11 August 2011 18:11  
Blogger Anajinn said...

The Governor General of Canada accepted a petition for pardon from Norman August 12, and forwarded it directly to Her Majesty. Norman awaits news.

Supporters around the world for this eccentric but very intelligent, insightful man with lots of legal knowledge.

13 August 2011 02:24  
Blogger Rebel Saint said...

Cranmer ...

I haven't read all the comments. But as someone who has had personal dealings with Norman on several occassions over the last year or two, I can tell you quite categorically he is a nutter par excellence ... and not averse to the threat of violence.

I know not the details of the latest incident or whether the sentence is just or fair ... however, the fact that he finds himself incarcerated doesn't surprise me.

I would urge your communicants not to write to him ... they are likely to find themsleves plagued with delusional 'tracts' for ever more.

15 August 2011 10:15  
Blogger Anajinn said...

http://justicefornormanscarth.wordpress.com/2011/08/14/free-norman-scarth-demo-hmp-leeds-13th-august-2011/

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2011/08/norman-scarth-85-year-old-war-hero.html

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/free-wwii-veteran-norman-scarth-from-leeds-prison.html PLEASE SIGN PETITION


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/264866/UK-Riots-600-rioters-were-on-parole-from-jail
UK RIOTS: 600 RIOTERS WERE ON PAROLE FROM JAIL
Sunday August 14 2011 by Kirsty Buchanan and James Fielding
A THIRD of the rioters who brought violence and shame to Britain’s streets were on parole or subject to a community or youth rehabilitation order.
As many as 600 thugs who hurled petrol bombs at police, looted shops and torched homes, were freed early from either prison or, if under 18, a young offenders’ institute.
Most had been locked up for violent crime, including robbery, muggings and assault, and have now been recalled by prison services.
The revelation calls into question the Government’s policy of releasing prisoners halfway through their sentence regardless of whether they have been rehabilitated or not. Last night the Ministry of Justice admitted the rate of reoffending was “shamefully high”.
The Sunday Express has learned half the 1,800 rioters arrested for the violence which flared across England and left five people dead are under 18. Many were freed early from young offenders’ institutions.
Police are continuing to raid the homes of suspected troublemakers and expect arrests to climb to 2,500 by next week and 5,000 in total.
Harry Fletcher, of the National Association of Probation Officers, said: “Hundreds of these rioters are prisoners on parole. They’ve been freed from their sentence early on trust and they have grossly betrayed that trust by going on the rampage. It calls the wisdom of this policy into question.”
Philip Davies, Tory MP for Shipley, said the news “will be a wake up call for the Government”.
He added: “It’s shocking that one of the contributory factors to the violence was that we’ve been letting these criminals back on the streets unnecessarily.” The Ministry of Justice vowed to come down hard on the louts. A spokesman said: “Offenders breaching their licence face immediate return to prison."

15 August 2011 22:35  
Blogger ohmydays said...

Although I don't agree that an 85 year old is being locked up for 6 months when he quite obviously should be under some sort of care.
I am not sure why him being a war veteran excuses his behaviour. There is obviously more to this story than people are reporting. I read the guy was imprisoned for a 'minor' assault in 2001. 'minor' he attacked someone with a chain saw! But he was a war veteran so that's ok!

16 August 2011 23:33  
Blogger Anajinn said...

Isn't it sad that people think an 86 year old man deserves 6 months solitardy confinement and denial of his pain medications for turning on an audio device in court because he is hard of hearing.

What scum would think he should die in torture in prison after he fought to keep England free?

18 August 2011 04:08  
Blogger Anajinn said...

comment from signatory to Norman Scarth petition





Today in the Royal Courts of Injustice in London, Judge Wyn Williams protracted
Norman‟s ordeal by adjourning his bid for freedom until next week. Many judges including, John
Walford, John Bullimore and Simon Grenfell hold positions of authority in the local Anglican
church. I know that Jesus Christ would have no part in this injustice. So, in our incestuous
legal and judicial system, why are all the judges who profess to be Christians keeping quiet? What
is more important, Faith or Salary?

21 August 2011 22:42  
Blogger Angry Old Git said...

Your Grace, as a serf, I have an aversion toward unelected public servants, who mistake a court for their private fiefdom.
The Judge is neither divine, nor infallible, merely the referee in a game called, 'statue law', the most abused and unjust form of law of the seas.
In Court it is the Jury that has the power, not the judge, and a court without a jury is an abomination, an institution from which, justice is barred.
Norman Scarth committed no crime in law, no one was injured or suffered loss, by his recording the proceedings, the banning of which is illogical, while Government insists, if we have nothing to hide, we have nothing to fear.
It is not beyond the realms of possibility, that it was precisely because, old and deaf Mr Scarth sat in the public gallery, that the judge refused to allow the loop system to be switched on.
"No man may be imprisoned before being found guilty in a Court, judged by his peers.'

25 August 2011 16:19  

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