Tuesday, September 20, 2011

Cameron consults Blair over the ‘State of Palestine’

And thank God for that. When you need religio-geopolitical advice, it’s always worth seeking it from someone who understands the issues, grasps the theology, appreciates the history and isn’t overly concerned with popularity. Whatever you may think of Tony Blair, at least he looks at the proposal of the ‘State of Palestine’ through the prism of perspective.

And that detachment permits him to see that Middle East peace is not contingent on the carving up of Israel, but on the emerging Shi’a beast of Iran. It is President Ahmadinejad’s nuclear ambitions which herald Armageddon; not the weapons capability of Hamas. As the world focuses on the ascendant terrorist union of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hezbollah in Syria, and al-Qaeda in Lybia, it is Iran who nurtures and suckles them, irrespective of their Sunni heresy, for the goal which units them all is the eradication of the state of Israel; to drive the ‘vermin Jews’ into the sea; to rid the world of the ‘lethal birds of prey’ and to disinfect the region of ‘lethal bacteria’.

Tony Blair understands (in ways that Nick Clegg never will) that for Shi’a prophecy to be fulfilled, Iran must not only possess nuclear weapons, but use them – for both national glory and eternal salvation. The Jews must be ethnically cleansed from the region: there is no ‘two-state solution’ which will satisfy this evil, for there is no compromise to be had. President Ahmadinejad is not enriching uranium for some civilian energy programme, but for the production of a bomb by which Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameni (or his successors) may ‘wipe Israel off the map’. They may then welcome the 12th Imam and usher in the new Islamic era – a supreme Shi’a Islamic Caliphate.

All streams of Islam believe in a divine saviour, known as the Mahdi, who will appear at the End of Days in the company of Isa (Jesus). But President Ahmadinejad and his cabinet have pledged themselves to work for the return of the Mahdi. The most remarkable aspect of Ahmadinejad's piety is his devotion to this ‘Hidden Imam’, the Messiah-like figure of Shi’a Islam, and the President's belief that his government must prepare the country for his return. Indeed, his military involvement in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq is purposely designed to agitate against Israel to hasten the Last Day. Iran's dominant ‘Twelver’ sect believes the Mahdi will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam and descendant of the Prophet Mohammed.

David Cameron may ‘do God’, but he doesn’t do theology. Especially where that theology becomes politics. Liberated from the constraints of office and the inconveniences of democracy, Tony Blair is free to do both. And he grasps that Iran’s foreign policy is theological and can mean only one thing for Israel. He knows that the Shi’as hold to the divine promise made in the Al-Israa Sura (Sura 17) that they will liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque – the first 'Kaba' – and will enter it as they have entered it the first time (Sura 17, ayat 7). And the prophetic foundation is the message of Mohammad that Islam will enter every house and will spread over the entire world.

President Ahmadinejad is dedicated and Iran’s Ayatollahs pledged with their lives to the ‘liberation of Palestine’ - all of ‘Palestine’. This is Iran’s final solution. If they can get a group like Hamas to do their bidding in the meantime, so much the better. But be not deceived, the quest for Palestinian nationhood and intermittent terrorist atrocities are just a lot of smoke and mirrors to deflect from the real grievance and the ultimate conflict. And should Israel fall, there can be no hope for the West.


Blogger ibbers said...

Carving up Israel? Way to go for rational discourse.

Peace will never be achieved on the ME until the Palestinians get a fair deal. Both sides need strong doses of moderate politics, otherwise the stability to counter radical politics such as Irans will never emerge.

Israels tacit support for Mubarak, antagonising Turkey, and not apologising for accidentally killing Egyptian border guards doesnt help their cause. And lets not mention the illegal settlements.

A real Israel/Palestine peace that both sides accept, that is not simply forced upon the Palestinians by their European and American "partners", is the only sane option.

Eliminate Palestine as a burning issue in the Muslim world and the Arab world will get a significant boost for stability.

Why should Palestine, after all, pay for the sins of the West?

20 September 2011 at 10:25  
Blogger Arden Forester said...

Very well thought out posting. And you're right. I have had "whatever I think" moments with Blair but credit where credit is due I say. He deserves credit here.

20 September 2011 at 10:29  
Blogger ibbers said...

Hmm,commenting with one's mobile does not lend itself to coherence. Apologies all.

20 September 2011 at 10:32  
Blogger Bill Kristol-Balls said...

I'm intrigued your warship..

If Iran did get nukes, and launched them at Israel thus "wiping it off the face of the map", surely this would be followed (in no short amount of time) by massive Israeli retaliation from their submarine based nukes.

Goodnight Tehran so to speak.

Are the Ayatollah's so blind as to not see that the destruction of Israel would mean the destruction of Iran?

20 September 2011 at 10:34  
Blogger ibbers said...

Bill, i imagine just like the Christian Fundamentalists who want to join the IDF, theyd assume their side would win the apocalypse somehow.

Tis rather sad when you read the writings of some of the now dead or exiled groups who worked to overthrow the Shah, what they had hoped for, and what Iran, and the world, got in the end.

20 September 2011 at 10:41  
Blogger Cork said...

Your last sentence. Did you not mean "And should Israel fall, there can be 'no' hope for the West."?

20 September 2011 at 10:46  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Good little christian Tony B. Liar consulting with the equally traitorous Camoron?


20 September 2011 at 10:51  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

Given that Blair considered that genocidal maniac Cromwell was a "hero" and model statesman, I would not place a great deal of reliance on his knowing enough of the history of the Middle East, or of the conflict to be in a position to advise Mr Cameron sensibly or even practically. Nor would I place a great deal of credence on his theological knowledge.

Palestine does not exist as a "state" in any real sense and cannot expect to do so until its politicians embrace the reality that Israel is a legitimate state, recognised by the UN and entitled to defend itself and its citizens (which includes many non-Jews and Arabs) from attack by terrorist organisations. As your Grace rightly points out, Iran is the backer and promoter here of all the fundamentalist assaults and the prime supporter of their ideological aim to "cleanse" Israel of all trace of Jews. Those who support the Palestinians are simply supporting terror and promoting genocide.

Cameron would do far better to sit down with someone who really knows the history, the reality and the potential outcome of some of the proposals currently being bandied about by the White House and other left-wing "peace at any price - as long as someone else pays it" mindset.

Palestine is a very recent invention, the result of King Hussein's desire to shed the troublesome West Bank because its terrorist led populace was destabilising his Kingdom. Egypt saw a chance and followed suit with Gaza. No longer are the terrorists in their midst, now they are someone else's problem.

As long as the Palestinians refuse to make any compromises with Israel, which has shown itself willing to compromise on just about everything except the post 1967 border and East Jerusalem, there can never be any move forward.

Iran may attempt to launch a strike, but I suspect they would soon find that they have unleashed a global holocaust, not just a Middle Eastern one.

20 September 2011 at 11:19  
Blogger Gnostic said...

And tomorrow Tony Bliar will walk on water and raise the dead (on both sides) of Iraq and Afghanistan...

20 September 2011 at 13:35  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ Bill Kristol-Balls (10:34) and The Gray Monk (11:19)—Iran would see Mutually Assured Destruction as a price worth paying for precipitating the Last Judgement. The Iranians would be fulfilling the prophecy made by Mohammed, ‘The Hour [of the Last Judgment] will not be established until you fight with the Jews’, and would, in return, expect first dibs on all the rewards Paradise has to offer.

20 September 2011 at 14:19  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

It isn't actually probable that Iran would launch a nuclear strike against Israel. The consequences to Iran would be fatal. And I do mean fatal. Iran would cease to exist as a nation. It isn't just Israel that Iran would have to concern itself with. The US would almost certainly retaliate in kind. What Iranian nuclear capability would do is equalize the Israeli nuclear advantage (to some extent) and allow hostile forces greater freedom of action against Israel at conventional or non-conventional levels.

It is also ridiculous to suggest that solving the 'Palestinian Problem' will solve the conflict in the Middle east. The 'Palestinian Problem' exists precisely to exacerbate the conflict in the Middle East. It is not coincidence that the Arab states have left the refugees to fester. They are a convenient thorn - a goad for the Arab propaganda war. There is no desire to solve the 'Palestinian Problem' except through the eradication of the state of Israel. That is the beginning point for finding a solution to this problem. This not a conflict of two peoples trying to co-exist. This is a problem of Arabs trying to kill the Jews, and Jews trying not to be killed.


20 September 2011 at 14:46  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

JR: Ahmadinejad may be a complete nutter, but even the most rabid of his Ayatollahs knows what will happen if they did try to launch such an attack, and even they know it is by no means certain what the reception in paradise will be afterward. That said, they now have a provocative naval presence in the Eastern Mediterranean and I think it is merely a matter of time before they attempt to intervene against the IDF navy ships operating off the Israeli and Gaza coast.

I would not put it past them to seek an opportunity, perhaps "escorting" one of the "aid" shipments of arms into Gaza.

What Carl J has said is true, there is no desire for peace on the Arab side. As long as they can keep this pot stirring they have a means to distract everyone from what they are doing at home. The Palestinians are victims, but primarily they are the victims of their own peoples cynical political machinations. If Iran did launch a nuclear strike on Israel I suspect the response would annihilate Iran and probably several other Muslim nations.

More worrying is, I think, the fact that the "Arab Spring" is rapidly bringing some very nasty fundamentalist groups into power in Egypt and elsewhere. That will be the problem of tomorrow.

20 September 2011 at 15:08  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

@ The Gray Monk (15:08)—Tragically, what seems nutty to us makes a whole lot of sense to devout Muslims. This video features Muslims talking about Jews.

20 September 2011 at 15:30  
Blogger Oswin said...

Johnny Rottenborough : 14:19 :

Agreed. It's time the West understood the mindset of these loonies. We are not dealing with a 'rational' opponent, in our sense of the word; but a bunch of messianic maniacs who drop messages down a well, beckoning the return of the Mahdi.

The 'well' being the real source of the 'Arab Spring'.

As for Blair, I still can't forget that infamous Saatchi 'demon eyes' poster of 1996. As as a potential 'Antichrist' he's just too damned convincing!

20 September 2011 at 16:33  
Blogger Charles Cameron (hipbone) said...

Your Grace writes:

Tony Blair understands (in ways that Nick Clegg never will) that for Shi’a prophecy to be fulfilled, Iran must not only possess nuclear weapons, but use them – for both national glory and eternal salvation.

Might I suggest that your Grace consider the view of the American scholar and conservative Christian, Dr Timothy Furnish, whose book Holiest Wars expressly deals with Mahdism, who possesses the requisite languages, and who indeed attended one of the conferences sponsored by the "Bright Future Institute" think tank in Tehran -- designed to promote Mahdist studies – where he heard both President Ahmadinejad and Secretary Ali Larijani speak.

Your Grace's readers may wish to know that he has expressed himself briefly on the topic, writing:

My own study of both geopolitics and of Shi`i traditions on the 12th Imam leads me to conclude that the clerical regime does NOT believe in nuking Israel (or anyone else), because while the Mahdi will return at a time of great violence and upheaval, there is no Shi`i teaching that creating such bloodshed would induce Allah to send him. Also, I think the ayatollahs are crazy like foxes, not literally crazy—and they know full-well what would be the Israeli (and perhaps American ) response to any use of nuclear weapons against Israel. The Mahdi would not be happy to return and rule over a radioactive wasteland.

Your Grace, however, will no doubt wish to savor the more detailed theological considerations Dr Furnish's presents in his 2011 paper A Western View on Iran’s WMD Goal: Nuclearizing the Eschaton, or Pre-Stocking the Mahdi’s Arsenal?

20 September 2011 at 17:50  
Blogger len said...

All those who oppose the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob wish to crush Israel and to destroy its inhabitants whether by indifference to the plight of Israel or by direct action.I also think anyone calling themselves Christian should get acquainted with Gods plans for Israel through the Bible preferably!.
The 'Arab spring' was a move to get rid of any pro Israel sympathisers amongst Arab leaders.
Pressure is being put upon anyone who assists Israel to reconsider their position.
The 'Palestinian problem'is a cynical Arab move to 'carve up' Israel and ultimately to take possession of the WHOLE Land.
Why Israel, a seemingly insignificant strip of Land?

The reason being Israel is Gods Land and if Islam can dominate the Land ,obliterate all traces of the Jews existence, in their Islamic mindset the Islamic 'Allah' will be the 'winner' and control the Nations.

This battle is a spiritual battle as old as time itself, it started in the Garden of Eden and has been played out through History and in these end times it will culminate over the Land of Israel.

20 September 2011 at 17:54  
Blogger thestreetman said...

Yet another wise post.

But do not fear too much: whatever David Cameron or his treacherous Foreign Secretary (let alone his quisling Lib Dem partners or the BBC) may think, we Jews will do everything we can to prevent this catastrophe.

But thank you YG.

20 September 2011 at 18:12  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Slight problem.
There isn't a "god", so there is no such thing as "god's land" (!)

Especially when you hear, within the SAME DAY (on Beeb some time back) both Ultra-Jews and Ultra-Muslims saying: "But this land is ours, god gave it to us".
Truly scary, that level of submission to religious brainwashing, neither of which is by any standards, true.

20 September 2011 at 18:59  
Blogger Shacklefree said...


20 September 2011 at 20:38  
Blogger The Gray Monk said...

G. Tingey: As far more people belive that God does exist than share your view, I suspect that one day you might be surprised. Since the Arab legends date from the 7th Century AD and the rather interesting twist of the Old Testament (Torah) story of Abraham (Ibrahim in Islam) which declares that the Jews are the descendents of Isaac and his mother Sarah, the slave rather than the wife, all the BBCs programme demonstrates is the power of propaganda.

Muslim pilgrims wander round the Ka' Abba, convinced that this is the house Abraham built for Hagar and her son, but this legend has no foundation prior to Mohammad declaring it had been revealed to him in a vision.

It is often claimed by Islamists and Atheists that there is no archeological evidence for a Jewish Nation or State in the Holy Land. In part this is because a great deal of the evidence lies in lands now controlled by Muslim governments who will allow no archeological examination of any site that might prove embarrassing.

Whether you approve or not, Israel, the West Bank and a large part of western Jordan is considered Holy ground by three major religions - whose adherents outnumber Atheists by a considerable margin. You demand respect for your views, show the same respect for theirs.

20 September 2011 at 21:12  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

Scary stuff indeed when fanatical theological speculation and interpretation becomes the justification for political actions.

Naked Islam, as has been repeatedly argued on this blog, has no morality other than spreading Islam by whatever means necessary. And fundamental Islamists believe in suicide bombing too. God help us all if they do acquire nuclear capability.

Iran on its own can surely be contained. If the Muslim world united around the core beliefs of Islamists and developed nuclear capability, we would be in a pretty fine mess.

The West and Israel has to do what it can to isolate extremism and address the grievances, real or imagined, which allow it to take root and flourish.

20 September 2011 at 21:27  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

len said ...
""This battle is a spiritual battle as old as time itself, it started in the Garden of Eden and has been played out through History and in these end times it will culminate over the Land of Israel."

Quite possibly, however, this cannot not justify a fatalistic approach which does not attempt to find a just and stable settlement. Neither can it justify Christian 'end time' action that provokes the situation or seeks to heat it up.

Who knows the path of history but God? Our duty and the duty of all men of good will is to resist evil and its power.

20 September 2011 at 21:39  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

The Republican Party has just captured the formerly safe Democratic seat vacated by Anthony Weiner. But is that really because of opposition on the part of that district's largely Jewish electorate to the Obama Administration's acceptance of reality in relation to the Holy Land, an acceptance so reminiscent of Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles (for all his faults), James Baker and even George W Bush, though also of J William Fulbright and Jimmy Carter (again, for all his faults)? If so, then that amounts to an overriding allegiance to a foreign power, fundamentally incompatible with allegiance to the American Republic. American Jews did not used to be like that.

The Orthodox regarded Zionism, a wholly atheistic and largely Marxist creation, as a blasphemous presumption, a position which a few of them still articulate, while it remains telling that even the adherents of the much more recent Religious Zionism make a point of living on land which, whatever else it may be, is undeniably not at present part of the Zionist State, against whose teenage conscripts of both sexes they will happily use armed force. The desire to live in the Land of Israel is manifestly something quite different from the desire to live in the State of Israel.

And the American Reform (not quite the same thing as the British Reform) defined Jews as a religious community, not as an ethnic group, while seeing America as the polity most shaped by Jews and best embodying what they identified as Judaism's political aspirations. They actually assisted Fulbright in seeking to classify pro-Israeli lobbyists as foreign agents on American soil. There is a quiet revival of that sort of Americanism underway among those taking a renewed interest in Classical Reform. But apparently, it has not yet reached New York's Ninth Congressional District.

Israel is a land of highly socialised medicine and of ostentatiously homosexual street parades. Of which of these does the Republican Party now approve? Moreover, if there cannot be a Palestinian State, contrary to the position of the last Republican President, then with whom and with what have the Israelis ever been negotiating? Those interlocutors do not seek recognition of a Muslim state; on the contrary, the Palestinian Authority already operates a Christian quota without parallel in Israel, though corresponding to similar arrangements in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. They do not even seek recognition of an Arab state. Ever since 1993, they have recognised Israel within her borders before 1967, and they seek nothing more than recognition of Palestine in the territory captured in that year, the home of everyone who lives there, and if anything an emerging or emerged Orthodox Jewish refuge from godless Zionism.

The only problem is with recognising Israel as "a Jewish state", condemning to the second class citizenship from which the Israeli Constitution theoretically protects them (however different the practice may be) a fifth of the population, including the world's most ancient Christian communities, now variously Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican and Lutheran. Truly, a cause to unite WASPs and the German or Scandinavian Midwest with all the old "white ethnics" except, perhaps, one. In which case, the Republican Party would be welcome to that one. Has it really come to this, either for that party or for that ethnic group?

20 September 2011 at 22:54  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

A Palestinian Declaration of Independence must explicitly lay claim to the whole of the viable Palestinian State created on both sides of the Jordan in 1948. Furthermore, it must mirror the Constitution of Lebanon in guaranteeing the Presidency to a Christian even if it guarantees the Premiership to a Muslim (as would have happened electorally anyway). It must mirror the Constitutions of Lebanon, of Iran, and of Palestine east of the Jordan, the present Hashemite Kingdom, as well as the Palestinian Authority, in guaranteeing parliamentary representation to Christians. It should mirror Syria is establishing Christian festivals as public holidays.

And it should place the new state – not only the Christians, but the State and everyone in it – under the protection of each and all of the remaining sacral monarchies, there being by definition no other kind, in Christendom. This would also be a wider appeal, to any and every country that regarded Christianity as fundamental to its identity. Does the American Republic so regard itself? Does the Russian Federation? Do the republics of Europe? Do the republics of Central America, South America and the Caribbean? Do the republics, and two kingdoms, of Africa? Does any other country? In each country’s case, how it responded to this Declaration would be its definitive answer to that question.

At the very least, this needs to appear over the names expressing the full authority of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate, the Latin Patriarchate, the Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Patriarchate, the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land, the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, the Syrian Orthodox Patriarchate, the Greek-Melkite-Catholic Patriarchate, the Ethiopian Orthodox Patriarchate, the Maronite Patriarchal Exarchate, the Episcopal Church of Jerusalem and the Middle East, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land, the Syrian Catholic Patriarchal Exarchate, and the Armenian Catholic Patriarchal Exarchate. That would have an immediate, and very dramatic, impact.

With our without that Declaration, Britain could and should be shamed by a war memorial such as disgracefully does exist in this country, probably could not currently be erected in Jerusalem, and certainly could not currently be erected in Nazareth, but probably could be in Bethlehem. A memorial to those killed by Irgun, Lehi and all the rest of them. Blessed in the sight of the BBC by (among others, of course) the Latin Patriarch and the Anglican Archbishop, both visibly robed as such, and both introduced as such by the reporter for the benefit of the folks back home. Cue a subsequent explanatory piece, complete with interviews with any surviving veterans. Newspaper articles within a three-day radius, we all know the drill. And a member of the Royal Family in attendance, laying a wreath? If not, why not? After all, two of the most prominent are serving officers. The explicit invitation should be included in the announcement from Ramallah that this memorial was to be erected. After all, Ramallah is already sending its Officer Cadets to Sandhurst, and they are passing out with Palestine listed as their country. Commonwealth membership beckons.

Perhaps no one did identify as Palestinian, as such, before the creation of the State of Israel. By definition, no one identified as Israeli, either. Israel has made that particular section of the Levantine Arabs, Christian and Muslim, into Palestinians. If the Israelis, who are not all of the world’s Jews and who are not all Jewish, are entitled to a state, then so is their twin people, the Palestinians. And if that includes the West Bank Haredim, then so be it. They would find Palestine a lot more conducive than the land of Dana International.

20 September 2011 at 22:55  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Someone called David Lindsay babbled 20 September 2011 22:54 & 20 September 2011 22:55

What the ..?

Ernst must really stop mixing his medication and the odd vodka as it appears some english looking sentences were thrown together and laid out as comprehendable comments (monkeys, typewriters and shakespearian sonnets spring to mind).

Certain it all sounded brilliant within Mr Lindsay's head but something definitely got lost in translation from head to blog.

Do take pity on us poor foolish bloggers and 'Try Harder' old chap.

E S Blofeld

21 September 2011 at 00:53  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...


I blame all this sort of gibberish on a comprehensive school education.

E S Blofeld

21 September 2011 at 00:58  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Mr Lindsay,

A few points about your posts, an article really, which you evidently copied and pasted from your blog.

Anthony Weiner's seat was lost by an Orthodox Jew, a Democrat, to a non-Jewish republican because the largely Democrat Jewish electorate is, like the majority of Americans, disappointed and frightened by Obama's mismanagement of the country. Funnily enough, the loser accused his fellow Jews of caring more about their money than Democratic principles. You, on the other hand declare that he lost because of Obama's anti-Israel stand and hint, not very subtly, that American Jews are traitors to their country...inspite of the fact that the majority of non-Jewish Americans are more pro-Israel than a good number of Israelis themselves. Between the two of you, and maybe with the help of Walt and Mearsheimer, you can update and re-issue The Protocols and make a mint. Although, I'd suggest you let W and M do the writing, as they are better at it.

I see you are disturbed over the fact that Republicans are not disturbed over Israel's (moderately) socialized medicine and gay parades. Then, you dream on about the all-but-dead paleo-conservative Repulicans like Albright, seemingly unaware that the Republican party has changed while you were dreaming about eventual peerage, I suppose.

Your prescriptions for a Palestinian state are entertaining, up to a point, but no amount of willing suspension of disbelief or shots of vodka would turn them into even passable alternative history fiction. Christians in "Palestine"? Another update: Most Christians once living under the mercies of the Palestinian Authority have moved to Israel as refugees; too sensitive about beatings, lootings, land-grabs, forced conversions, rapes and murders by their Muslim brothers. They don't seem to have you mettle, evidently.

And, the howler of which you are so proud and will undoubtedly repeat until the cows come home: "Perhaps no one did identify as Palestinian, as such, before the creation of the State of Israel. By definition, no one identified as Israeli, either." Actually, if you took care with reading up on history as much as with dropping names like a rabbit with diarrhoea, it was the Mandate Jews who were identified by the British authorities as "Palestinian," while the Arabs there thought of themselves as Southern Syrians and raged at such designations. The term "Palestinian" was a punishable no-no under Pan-Arabism and reappeared only after Israel whipped the pan-Arabists several times over and took Judea and Samaria from the occupying Hashemites. It was only after that the Syrian clans were "convinced" by the semi-Marxist Arafat and his KGB handlers to reinvent themselves as "Palestinians."

The bottom line today, in the real world, is that Israel was pushed and pulled into the Oslo agreements and the now-defunct land-for-peace formula, and the promise that a Muslim state, Palestine, would be allowed to form in parts of Judea and Samaria after negotiations, after Arab acceptance of Israel as a Jewish state and after demilitarization and a peace agreement of the said "Palestinians." The upcoming UN farce, not to mention Arab inability to meet a single requirement they signed on to for billions of aid, now cancels all that. I'm ok with that, because I guess it's back to the only standing internationally ratified legal agreement...San Remo.

However, Mr Lindsey, as you are looking for a job where your clearly unappreciated talents and gentlemanly demeanor can be of good use, I would suggest the Republic of Iran, whose leadership is fond of similar fables and hyperboles. Hurry while it's still there, though.

21 September 2011 at 01:00  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

Admit it, you have never heard of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate, the Latin Patriarchate, the Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Patriarchate, the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land, the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate, the Syrian Orthodox Patriarchate, the Greek-Melkite-Catholic Patriarchate, the Ethiopian Orthodox Patriarchate, the Maronite Patriarchal Exarchate, the Episcopal Church of Jerusalem and the Middle East, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land, the Syrian Catholic Patriarchal Exarchate, or the Armenian Catholic Patriarchal Exarchate. You thought that all Palestinians were Muslims, didn't you?

You did not know that the President and half the MPs in Lebanon had to be Christians. You did not know that there was reserved parliamentary representation for Christians in Jordan and on the Palestinian Authority. You did not know that there was reserved parliamentary representation for Armenians and Assyrians (and for Jews) in Iran. You did not know about the Christian-majority provinces, and the Christian festivals as public holidays, in Syria, where the expensive government programme restoring Jewish holy sites suggests a thriving Jewish community to use them, whatever certain neighbours might so.

You did not know, in the same vein, that the historic synagogue in Beirut was being restored by Hezbollah, Lebanon being another country with a guaranteed Jewish MP. You probably did not know about the ancient indigenous Christians in Iraq, so that you probably cheered on the removal of their providential protector, which has resulted in their ongoing genocide.

And you certainly did not know, therefore, that none of this has the slightest parallel in Israel. Apart, of course, from the genocide of ancient indigenous Christians. (Flying in American Dispensationalists, or Russians who will not eat kosher food and who are so far removed from Orthodoxy that insist on swearing their IDF Oaths on the New Testament alone, is neither here nor there.)

All in all, you do not know very much. So why presume to comment? Surely not because you are - how can one put this? - being paid?

No doubt you did know about the British troops killed by the Marxist terrorists of the Zionist underground, who had sought and very nearly secured a deal with Hitler. But you will pretend that you did not. Surely not because you are - how can one put this? - being paid?

21 September 2011 at 01:08  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

I'm sorry, Mr Ernst, I didn't see your posts before I published mine. Had I seen them, I wouldn't have bothered to pen a response to Mr Lindsay and might have saved half an hour of my life. But seriously, old chap, you scared my wife nearly to death. She burst into the den to see why I'm rolling on the floor, howling with laughter and pointing at your post. Ouch, I still hurt. No more please...good night!

21 September 2011 at 01:13  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

For the record, I am a whisky-drinker, preferably the Islay malts.

Iran is the second-oldest continuous civilisation on earth. Not least because she gives reserved parliamentary representation to her ancient indigenous Christians, she will be there an awful lot longer than some places.

Muhammad is now the single most common name for newborn boys within Israel’s pre-1967 borders. I am very pleased that Raed Salah is not allowed in my country, although I wish that I could say the same about many, many others. But what is he fighting for? Be born into certain ethnic minorities within Israel’s 1948 borders, and you are automatically subject to Sharia law. Far more people ought to know that than do. Waving his Menorah passport and with the name of that State in the name of his organisation, Salah obviously knows it very well indeed.

Israel’s Sharia courts are those of the State of Israel. Their rulings in relation to those born under their jurisdiction are the law of the land, and their judges are appointed and paid by that State. By contrast, although Israel treats family law rulings by entirely private Christian religious courts as a fait accompli, that is as far as any relationship goes. No wonder that Salah is such a proud and happy Israeli.

He is not the only one. He was previously the Mayor of Umm al-Fahm, a 100 per cent Arab and 99.7 per cent Muslim city which has been run by his Islamic Movement for many years and where 83 per cent of the population recently voted against transfer to Palestinian jurisdiction.

If you want to be the Islamic Movement’s fiefdom, then Israel will let you be it, and will even pay your bills. The Knesset includes Ibrahim Sarsur, who campaigns for Jerusalem to be made the capital of the Caliphate. His oath of office, an explicit pledge of allegiance to the State of Israel, clearly does not preclude the furtherance of that objective, which is inconceivable on the part of any member of a British, French, Dutch or other Parliament in Europe even now.

But then, look at the governing coalition in Israel. If any other country had a government in which the party of the Foreign Minister wished to denaturalise both the ancient indigenous Christians and the ultra-Orthodox Jews, while others around the Cabinet table held that every ethnic group apart from their own had been created as beasts of burden, then that country would rightly be treated as a pariah.

21 September 2011 at 01:16  
Blogger David Lindsay said...

About 14,000 Jews left Israel annually between 1990 and 2005. Half of Israelis aged between 14 and 18 express the desire to live elsewhere. A huge percentage of Israelis holds, or plans to inquire about obtaining, foreign nationality. The Berlin synagogue has 12,000 members, and there are now perhaps 55,000 Jews in Poland, many of whom are immigrants from Israel. Curzon was right when he bemoaned the Balfour Declaration on the grounds that the “advanced and intellectual” Jews would have no desire to live in the Middle East. They cannot wait to go home.

The screeching of Britain’s Likud supporters and worse cannot hide the fact that the Jewish Chronicle has to reflect mainstream Anglo-Jewish opinion or go out of business, that the Board of Deputies of British Jews has to reflect mainstream Anglo-Jewish opinion of its members would not be re-elected, and so on. The tyranny of those who shout the loudest is coming to an end. Not a moment too soon.

Desperately, Israel is instead flying in Russians who refuse to eat kosher food and who insist on taking their Israeli Defence Force oaths on the New Testament alone, Russian Nazis, East Africans who have invented a religion based on the Old Testament brought by Christian missionaries, Peruvian Indians, absolutely anyone at all. Even the Pashtun are now classified as a Lost Tribe with a view to airlifting them to Israel in future, since at least they are not Arabs.

Such Jewish births as there still are, are largely and increasingly to ultra-Orthodox who so disdain the Zionist State that they will use physical force against its teenage conscripts of both sexes. The desire to live in the Land of Israel is manifestly quite separate from any desire to live in the State of Israel, which is presumably why, settled on the West Bank, they do not do so. One cannot help feeling that they and the inhabitants of Umm al-Fahm ought to have been asked each other’s questions.

If Israel does not want to become a haven for Russian Nazis, then she needs to repeal the Law of Return, declaring that she is now a settled culture and society in her own right, and precluding any wildly impracticable demand for a corresponding right on the part of Palestinian refugees or their descendants. The people who will do anything for Israel except live there, and who throw their weight around in demanding policies that suit their prejudices expressed from comfortable berths thousands of miles away, can thus be told where to go, or not to bother trying to go.

21 September 2011 at 01:18  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Avi Barzel said 21 September 2011 01:13

Dear chap

'might have saved half an hour of my life.' Tell me about it!
Ernst despairs at what is posted as comments on His Grace's blog.

I merely ask that I can comprehend what the devil the blighters are on about.

Apologies to Mrs Barzel for the fright.

Nighty Night me old cannuck.

Ernst, the bellicose malcontent old grumbler.

21 September 2011 01:16 & 21 September 2011 01:18


OOH dear Lord, it's like a disease and he must write them all in advance anticipation!
Let me re-phrase my previous post..Please Do Not Try at all, it would be a real kindness and greatly appreciated
..there's a nice fellow.

21 September 2011 at 01:27  
Blogger Oswin said...

Avi @ 01:00

Gordon Jesus H.Christ Bennett!

You have to be admired for poking your finger into that little lot. Personally, I always try to walk around cow-pats.

Do you think he's burnt himself out; or just away for some more drugs? It just has to be 'speed'!

21 September 2011 at 02:26  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

David Lindsay said...

For the record, I am a whisky-drinker

Well, that explains it.


21 September 2011 at 02:46  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Had to look in to see what may have cropped up. Hi, Oswin, hi Carl; glad it's you. O, what have I wrought? I'll take your subtle advice, Oswin, and I'll walk around next time as well. I'm practically tip-toeing now, hot chocolate in hand, cringing and hoping not to initiate another erruption.

I'm burnt out, vanquished. That man'll never burn out. And he doesn't need drugs, I fear. O, the horror, the horror. When all that's left is vitrified cities and cockroaches, there'll be Lindsay, pre-writing strategic contingency come-backs and telegraphing them, with a flashlight in Morse, to the cold, unheeding stars. Brrrrr!I must go hide now, g'night!

21 September 2011 at 03:17  
Blogger bluedog said...

So, Mr David Lindsay @ 22.54, 22.55, 01.08, 01.16 and 01.18, should one conclude that you disagree with the proposition put forward by His Grace?

Or is that an over-simplification of the points made in your Manifesto?

21 September 2011 at 07:54  
Blogger len said...

When people do not want to know the truth and wilfully ignore the truth God sends them a strong delusion that they' might believe the lie.'
This is one of the ways Gods judgements fall on Humanity.

God just 'lets them get on with it'.

I see plenty of evidence of that here.

Dodo and others, If you do not want to know the truth about Catholicism, homosexuality, Islam,Atheism, whatever, then God will let you believe the lie and once that happens there is no longer any way the truth can penetrate the darkness will close and envelope you.

I see that process at work on this blog, let alone in the wider aspect in the World.

For all those who do not want to know the truth(about God) a strong delusion is already at work.There is a point of 'no return' and repentance and a love of the truth is the only way back!.

21 September 2011 at 07:55  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

"All in all, you do not know very much. So why presume to comment? Surely not because you are - how can one put this? - being paid?"

Does anyone know to whom Mr David Lindsay is talking? If it be His Grace, what is this nonsense about being paid? His Grace has never been paid so much as a penny to comment on any matter. Disagree, by all means, Mr Lindsay. But please do not presume to comment upon matters about which you can know absolutely nothing.

21 September 2011 at 09:01  
Blogger Ariadne said...

Your Grace, you put things so elegantly. In my simple way I see Mr Lindsay as Rasputin on crack.

21 September 2011 at 09:34  
Blogger Ariadne said...

To return briefly to His Grace's original post:

I don't think Blair is the friend to Israel that is generally assumed. I think he means very well but either has no grasp of what needs to done or is hoping that politics will overcome 1400 years of Islamic hate and conquest.

The cuckoo in the nest here is an egregious hater. I read the first and most recent paragraphs he posted and wondered how much time would be needed to untwist his untruths. More than I or any other sensible person would have.

It is a very great pity that Israel has started the fightback so late but under the same pressures - mostly of hate - I wonder what other countries might have done. Whatever, I imagine it would have been done far more bloodily.

21 September 2011 at 10:55  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

David Lindsay

The poor fellow.

Looks like he is suited in his best attire after just attending first confession and has the likkle pic to prove it.

Bit old aren't you, young man.

That must have been one heck of getting a lot off your chest but obviously a lot is still trapped inside that tortured soul.

This is what the Sovereign LORD says: “It is not for your sake, O house of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, declares the Sovereign LORD, when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.”

“For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.” (Ezekiel 36:22-27)
“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.” (Zechariah 12:10-11).

Try reading Romans 9-11.

E S Blofeld


Nobody gets paid for anything on this blog to hold their opinions or lay them bare in comments.

As a kindness, your local priest and psychiatric hospital have been informed of your 'public episode'.

Get Well Soon, from all Cranmer communicants.

21 September 2011 at 10:55  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Good morning Your Grace,

Rest assured that Mr Lindsay directed his query or accusation at me and me alone. I'm afraid that I may have upset him somewhat. For the record, I too am not recompensed in any way for my scribblings here. If I were, I would be proudly strutting my professional status as His Grace's scribe, a quill in my ink stained fingers, sonnets, verse and prose issuing from my lips.

21 September 2011 at 10:57  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

David Linsey

I think it's good to hear a different perspective and apart from Avi's post and Mr Cranmer's censure, most responses have been of a personal nature rather addressing the points made.

Isn't it funny how the 'Sentinels' react when different views are put forward? And always the same tactic too. Either you're drunk, on drugs or off your head.

I thought Mr Linsey made some good points and his posts were informative. Then, as we know, I've already been labelled the 'demented, hapless wingless bird' for stepping outside of the WASP ideology.

You're not an Israeli fifth columnist masquerading as a simple Canadian truckie are you?

It's just that when any coherent argument against Israeli policies emerge you jump in with an informed and detailed 'party line'. Makes me wonder.

21 September 2011 at 12:48  
Blogger Ivan said...

Mr David Lindsay, your posts are too long man. Israel is only a sliver of land. What gives the Arab countries, all 20 odd of them rights over all of North Africa and the Middle East? And having that, they begrudge tiny Israel which in spite of all the hate continues to function as a law-abiding democracy. No other country in the world would have survived her conditions. Look the evidence is in, the Muslims can't handle democracy, they are a people suited to sultanates. As evidence you will find that Christians have a better break in countries such as Jordan and Oman than they will ever get among the Egyptians or Libyans. As a Christian does it not behoove you to concern yourself with the fate of the two million Christians now beleaguered in Syria? Does it not bother you that open threats have been made against their lives by Muslim fanatics?


21 September 2011 at 12:58  
Blogger carl jacobs said...

Way of the Dodo

I thought Mr Linsey made some good points and his posts were informative.

Yes, I thought his assertion that American Jews are disloyal was extremely informative. As well, his assertions about how wonderful it is to live as a Christian in Iran because Christians have guaranteed representation ... or something. Surely the Christians in Palestine will take note of their privileged position in the Muslim world. Not to mention his bold prescriptions for what a Palestinian Constitution must contain. I am sure Hamas is busily scribbling note.


21 September 2011 at 13:23  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

That sneaky old Dodo sqawked 21 September 2011 12:48

"Isn't it funny how the 'Sentinels' react when different views are put forward? And always the same tactic too. Either you're drunk, on drugs or off your head."

If you believe that the pile of manure laid out before this blog in the early hours of this morning by said commentor was meaningful and enlightened then you really must get out of that nest more often.

It was treated with the contempt it deserved.

He would have made more sense with a pencil and colouring crayons than stringing out sentences with no defined argument...'ranting' was what the term was at Ernst's

"Either you're drunk, on drugs or off your head. " or have another agenda, perhaps? Infamy, Infamy, they all got it 'in for me'..how repetitive!

Ernst S Blofeld, you naughty tiberian you.

21 September 2011 at 13:24  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...


As for the commenters who spotted Mr Lindsay's frenzy and his peculiar style of cutting and pasting his own stuff, their "clinical" assessment appears to be more astute than yours, eventhough you claim to have worked in the field if mental health. I don't claim expertise in that field, or even competence, but I do know folks whose writings can uncannily resemble Mr Lindsey's style, in method, rather than content, due to what professionals call a bipolar disorder. When brilliant types, such as Mr Lindsey undoubtedly is, move through the cycles of this disorder, they can weave -- from a mixture of truths, half-truths, detailed trivia, sweeping generalizations and purely made up stuff -- quite complicated and at times even convincing narratives. They will oscilate between dispassionate reason and utter, stark-raving bunkum within hours or even seconds. I'm not saying this is so in his case, it just maybe a mix of odd views and a peculiar style, but anyone assuming clinical manifestations would be justified in doing so.

As for your comment addressed to me, this is the second time here that I've been accused of some sort of trickery, either of being a paid mouthpiece, as suggested by Lindsey or, by you, as being some sort of an agent flogging a "party line." And I'm starting to get a bit pissed at such stupidities...although more at you than at him. Can you describe what you mean by an "Israeli fifth columnist," how I would fit that bill, and while at it please reveal what specific party and what policies you think I'm promoting? As the Americans would say, "Put up, or shut the f**k up."

21 September 2011 at 13:36  
Blogger len said...

The Arabs had no interest in Israel until the Jews started to return to their homeland and the land became fertile and prosperous.
Then a 'Palestinian population' arose as if by magic.

The "Palestinians" are only part of the larger problem of stateless, citizenshipless people in the Middle East. There are millions of mixed ethnic background, including Kurds, Hindus and others, that migrate throughout the Middle East. In the case of the "Palestinians" an ill-defined subgroup of this migrant population has been given a name and "history" and is being used as a tool against Israel.

21 September 2011 at 18:25  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...


Now you should know it's not possible to arrive at a diagnosis of serious phychiatric disorder on the basis of a few written posts. These may evidence some enthusiasm to get his points across and and a degree of passion and over excitement but signs of hypomania? I don't think so. I just think he was attempting to shift the debate on from the 'good Jew' versus the 'bad Muslim' position adopted by the majority of bloggers on here.

Turning to you. You might be a plant. An Israeli agent here on a popular Conservative blog to promote that State's position. On the other hand, you may be genuine and just very atuned to picking up and responding robustly to any criticism of Israel. Who knows?It's your persona as the self disparaging, apologetic, passive-aggressive and ever so humble, Jewish trucker that comes across at times as inauthentic .

21 September 2011 at 20:42  
Blogger bluedog said...

Len @ 18.25 said 'The Arabs had no interest in Israel until the Jews started to return to their homeland and the land became fertile and prosperous.'

So true, Len. One simply has to go to Google Maps and type 'Israel'. In Israel it can be seen that not a square inch of ground is left uncultivated or unimproved. Look again at the surrounding lands and there is little sign of similar enterprise.

The parable of the talents comes to mind.

Without Jewish enterprise the Land of Israel would rapidly deteriorate into yet another Islamic hell-hole. Then what.

21 September 2011 at 21:36  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Len said 21 September 2011 18:25

'Then a 'Palestinian population' arose as if by magic.'

Araba Cadabra indeed.

Jeremy Bowen can't believe his good luck on BBC News with the narrative and is waxing lyrical.

Bluedog said 21 September 2011 21:36

'Without Jewish enterprise the Land of Israel would rapidly deteriorate into yet another Islamic hell-hole. Then what.'
Then they turn on us, the other infidels, from within!

Dodo blustered 21 September 2011 20:42

'Turning to you. You might be a plant. An Israeli agent here on a popular Conservative blog to promote that State's position. On the other hand, you may be genuine and just very atuned to picking up and responding robustly to any criticism of Israel. Who knows?It's your persona as the self disparaging, apologetic, passive-aggressive and ever so humble, Jewish trucker that comes across at times as inauthentic .'

May I?

'Turning to you. You might be a plant. An Vatican agent here on a popular Conservative/Anglican blog to promote that State's position. On the other hand, you may be genuine and just very atuned to picking up and responding robustly to any criticism of Roman Catholicism. Who knows?It's your persona as the self disparaging, apologetic, passive-aggressive and ever so humble, Flightless Old Bird that comes across at times as inauthentic.' and occasionally castigated by His Grace for your behaviour.

Pot, Kettle, Black. Keep squawking!

E S Blofeld

21 September 2011 at 22:20  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...


About Lindsay, I'm not suggesting that one can obtain a diagnosis from a few posts, only that I've seen that kind of frenzied writing in bi-polars and manic depressives. In any case, when someone vomits outs a deluge of factoids he had been assembling for who knows how long, anyone is entitled to see that as being nuts...eiyther n the clinical or vernacular sense.

About me. Having silly thoughts about people is ok, we all have them, they flit about and evoporate. Getting stuck on them and voicing them on a public forum puts you in the grey zone right along with your new buddy, Lindsay. It's also rude to the subject, me, because you are essentially saying that my labours and the relationships I form here are tainted by deceit. Throwing an accusation that cannot be disproved and where denial becomes evidence for the accusation is a nasty Dominican tactic right out of the Malleus Maleficarum, isn't it? Could you be a Dominican witch-hunter or prosecutor of heretics? A sneaky Jesuit plant to provoke and to entice good English Protestants into the Romish ways? A secret adherent of the revived Templars or the Bulgar heresies? Perhaps you are a modern crypto-Manichean? Hmmm, you sometimes come across as such to me. Or maybe the idea of a bearded, long-haired trucker-Mossadnik turns you on, could that be it? Hubba-hubba, little Dodo-birdie! In any case, if you are so bored that you want to believe that Israel has the time to divert resources from their rickety diplomatic efforts and lousy PR to send people off onto blog sites, be my guest. Either way, it won't change the substance of anything I say here. But don't insult me by hurling your fantasies out of the blue, for no reason whatsover, when I wasn't even debating you at the time.

21 September 2011 at 22:50  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Mr Ernie,

Once again I spotted your post after I logged mine. Funny how we have similar suspicions about Dodo. I say that proof enough. If you don't mind, get the forge going and heat the irons, I'll oil and prep the rack.

21 September 2011 at 22:54  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Avi said 21 September 2011 22:54

'get the forge going and heat the irons, I'll oil and prep the rack.'

We are 'Frying Tonight'.

Breadcrumb or battered Dodo, what say you?
Either way it's probably finger lick'n good. Leg or Wing. Yummy! The breast is probably covered in lascerations from self flagellation and a tad dry for Ernst's liking.

Ernst Blofeld..ernie? you cheeky cannuck chappie!


Off to bed now, the Lib Dem conference is a perfect tonic for insomniacs. yawn!

Regards to Mrs Barzel.

21 September 2011 at 23:54  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...


Yep, you're right. Nothing subtle about you or that barely repressed angry and nasty streak.

22 September 2011 at 01:21  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

"Nothing subtle about you or that barely repressed angry and nasty streak. (Dodo)

You could very well think that....or, I'm in Phase Four of a multi-layered Mossad psy-op targetting your socio-cultural weaknesses, with focus on tendencies towards the martyr complex, all to induce greater suggestability and fluid behavioural compliance for the furtherance of world-wide Zionist objectives. Not sure which...does it really matter?

Anyway, Dodo, it would have been easier to just ask me what I'm about, how come you never thought of that?

Mr Ernest,

Fried stuff does give me heartburn, and I'm not sure Dodo birds are kosher. Besides, in spite of our Dodo's exhibitions of vulnerability, I suspect that he is a too tough and sinewy old bird for our spoiled palates. O well, there's always scotch and/or vodka we can turn to. Thank you, Mrs Barzel just chewed me out for not finishing the dishes, so she evidently weathered last night's shock at seeing me gasp for air and howl when I got some. I'll pass on your regards when the terrain is safer.

Good night, all.

22 September 2011 at 02:09  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...


What are you about?

22 September 2011 at 13:27  
Blogger non mouse said...

Mr.bluedog @ 21:36: yes, I used to notice that every time I flew over Israel. That is precisely the difference between the culture that produces life... and the one that destroys it.

22 September 2011 at 14:09  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

"Avi...what are you about?"?

Like everyone else, the joy of expressing ideas among smart people. And while at it, to advocate for things I believe are right and good and thus, in my small way, to fulfil the task the Almighty has given us, to repair the world and continue the ongoing work of Creation.

22 September 2011 at 15:31  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Avi Barzel stated emphatically 22 September 2011 15:31

Here, Here! Well said, young man.

I am starting to get very fond of you, my boy. I like your forthright style.

22 September 2011 at 17:12  
Blogger Avi Barzel said...

Why thank, you, the feelings of affinity are mutual, Sir. In my case I marvel at how you always seem to hit the bull's eye of a topic with such economy of words and undpredictable, hysterical lines.

22 September 2011 at 17:30  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Avi my lad said 22 September 2011 17:30

You would need to have had a humour bypass to miss the golden opportunities some of these anti-cranmer posters present when spouting such utter tosh.

It is both a gift and a great pleasure to show them, in as few words as possible, the uneducated nonsense stated.


22 September 2011 at 18:18  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

E. Blofeld
"It is both a gift and a great pleasure to show them, in as few words as possible, the uneducated nonsense stated."

Now what is it they say about self praise?

Squawk, squawk ..........

22 September 2011 at 22:31  
Blogger Gavin said...

Maybe, just maybe, Tony Blair is indeed a devout and sincere Christian, and maybe he is trying his best to follow Christ as best he knows how, within the teachings of the RC Church. I cannot judge his heart of hearts, for I cannot see inside his very soul, so I'll hold my peace.

But, I cannot but feel a huge degree of distrust of the man, given that he was the leader of that most mendacious and dishonest Party, the Labour Party, which, from 1997 to 2007, as the Government, did its utmost to legislate and enact in every sense possible against the teachings and history of Christianity in this country. By heavens, how I loathe, hate and despise the Labour Party and everything it stands for. When I consider Labour's record and then I hear of Mr Blair's apparent conversion to Catholicism, I can fully understand the distrust which Peter must have felt upon first hearing that Saul of Tarsus had converted to Christianity!

22 September 2011 at 23:23  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

Dodo the walghvogel in Extra Crispy Strips 22 September 2011 22:31

A short explanation of being Ernst

1.In order that all men may be taught to speak truth, it is necessary that all likewise should learn to hear it.
2.A jest breaks no bones.
3.Self-praise is a virtue
4.The WANT of praise is self-destructive.
5.Be careful not to tell long, self-praising stories or to add too many jokes or anecdotes – you do not want to come off as being too arrogant or unprofessional, now do you?


My fine Dodo


Been told by dutch sailors that your meat was only nice if finely sliced into little silver-dollar sized sections and fried in butter with just a drop of lemon and a twist of lime.
Serve with some fruits (mango preferably) and a nice chianti. *slurpslurp*

23 September 2011 at 00:28  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...


Were you aware that the name dodo may derive from the Portuguese term doudo, meaning fool. INTERESTING!

Ernst refers you to 'explanation of being Ernst number 2'

Ernsty Blofeld

23 September 2011 at 00:54  
Blogger non mouse said...

btw Your Grace - thanks for the picture, on this one! It's lovely to see the 'appy couple looking so miserable :)

23 September 2011 at 02:25  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

Ernsty Blofeld

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

24 September 2011 at 20:37  

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