Sunday, September 11, 2011

President Obama reads from the Bible at the 10th anniversary commemoration of 9/11

THE PRESIDENT: God is our refuge and strength,
a very present help in trouble.
Therefore, we will not fear,
even though the earth be removed,
and though the mountains be carried
into the midst of the sea.
Though its waters roar and be troubled,
though the mountains shake
with its swelling,
there’s a river
whose streams shall make glad
the City of God,
the holy place of the Tabernacle
of the Most High.
God is in the midst of her.
She shall not be moved.
God shall help her
just at the break of dawn.
The nations raged,
the kingdoms were moved.
He uttered his voice.
The earth melted.
The Lord of Hosts is with us.
The God of Jacob is our refuge.
Come behold the works of the Lord
who has made desolations in the Earth.
He makes wars cease
to the ends of the Earth.
He breaks the bough
and cuts the spear in two.
He burns the chariot in fire.
Be still and know that I am God.
I will be exalted among the nations.
I will be exalted in the Earths.
The Lord of Hosts is with us.
The God of Jacob is our refuge.


Blogger john in cheshire said...

Is Mr Obama's god the same as our God?

11 September 2011 at 17:48  
Blogger OldSouth said...

When the moment really matters, only the Psalms of David will do.

And, john in cheshire: It doesn't matter, because this isn't about any politician or secular power. The Psalm reminds us that The Potentate of Time reigns over all, and that his good purposes prevail.

11 September 2011 at 17:53  
Blogger DP111 said...

You mean it is from the Psalms? For a moment I thought it was Obama's own words.

11 September 2011 at 19:36  
Blogger asdfsdfadf said...

Psalm 91

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say to the LORD, "My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust."
3 For he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his pinions, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness is a shield and buckler.
5 You will not fear the terror of the night, nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in darkness, nor the destruction that wastes at noonday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side, ten thousand at your right hand, but it will not come near you.
8 You will only look with your eyes and see the recompense of the wicked.
9 Because you have made the LORD your dwelling place—the Most High, who is my refuge—
10 no evil shall be allowed to befall you, no plague come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways.
12 On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread on the lion and the adder; the young lion and the serpent you will trample underfoot.
14 "Because he holds fast to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will rescue him and honor him.
16 With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation."

11 September 2011 at 20:16  
Blogger buckthetrend said...

Does God break the bough or the bow?

11 September 2011 at 21:52  
Blogger bluedog said...

One can imagine Nigel Farage having the gravitas to undertake such a reading with piety and sincerity.

But Dave?

Or George?

11 September 2011 at 22:51  
Blogger non mouse said...

Quite, Mr. bluedog. As to the millipedes, or that other foreigner --the one in the coalition...

11 September 2011 at 23:07  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

Is there a 'political' message in the readingof this wonderful Psalm?

The latter part praises God for his protection and for destroying Israel's enemies and their military equipment; probably a reference to some epic deliverance of Jerusalem from an attack during the first millennium BC.

Is there an intended allusion to fanatical Islamism and the need to trust and have confidence in God to defeat it?

It's a wonderful Psalm and a very apt choice for today of all days.

"Be still and know that I am God."

11 September 2011 at 23:08  
Blogger Sidewinder said...

Does it matter who read it or if there's a mistake in a word in the posting?

It's a prayer to God. A recognition of His power and majesty and our need to rely upon Him and His protection.

Show some respect!

11 September 2011 at 23:19  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

That is the text precisely as it was received by email direct from the White House. As Mr/Miss/Mrs/Ms Sidewinder says, a typo (if it be) is utterly immaterial.

11 September 2011 at 23:38  
Blogger Jimbo said...

This is Colour Sergeant Bourne's from Zulu favourite psalm.

12 September 2011 at 00:00  
Blogger non mouse said...

Also, methinks, development of hindsight is a wonderful thing. It must have supported Mr. Obama's choice of text, especially given his unique insight into the economic devastation over which he reigns.

In the same way that people recall the declaration of war on Germany, or Kennedy's assassination, I'm sure most remember where they were as the news broke on 9/11/01. Me - I heard it in the car while driving from Glasgow. The second plane hit just about when I arrived at Balloch. My reaction was to search the Book of Revelation, where I focussed on Chapter 18 and ff. Then, I suspected that the terrorists had studied it all very carefully.

Right now, linking slightly to Psalm 46,** Rev. 18.24 stands out:
And in her, [Babylon, the earthly city] was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

So today I wonder what slant Obama really puts on his chosen text, and whether he presents it as a warning. If he speaks of defiance, resilience, and Christian faith, ... then perhaps we should indeed rejoice in the knowledge that "the Lord of Hosts is with us" (11). In any case, I say we should continue to sing "Jerusalem"** --- but with sincerity. 11/11/11 approaches, after all.

**I note that KJV says:
9 ... he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.

12 September 2011 at 00:20  
Blogger asdfsdfadf said...

Is there a 'political' message in the reading of this wonderful Psalm?

Obama is trying to backtrack on his hard Leftism. He's a Black Liberation Theologist or a Muslim---not a Christian. Coming from him, this is strictly BS.

12 September 2011 at 00:49  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

Psalm 46 has been a source of solace and encouragement down the ages to many 'fighting the good fight', as they see it.

Martin Luther's famous Reformation hymn "Ein' feste Burg ist unser Gott", for example, is a paraphrase of it.

In the context of today's volatile situation in the Middle East how are we as Christians to apply the message of the Gospel?

It seems to me Pope Benedict XVI, in his message to the people of America, offered one way forward:

"It is my fervent prayer that a firm commitment to justice and a global culture of solidarity will help rid the world of the grievances that so often give rise to acts of violence and will create the conditions for greater peace and prosperity, offering a brighter and more secure future.

12 September 2011 at 00:59  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

asdfsdfadf said...
"Obama is ... a Black Liberation Theologist or a Muslim---not a Christian."

I hear this accusation a lot about President Obama's 'real religion'. What actual evidence is there for this assertion?

It all sounds like the false allegation he wasn't really an American. He's a Democrat pursuing a left of centre agenda and he happens to be black. So what?

12 September 2011 at 01:13  
Blogger outsider said...

Yur Grace and Way of the Dodo are so right. A Christian (or a pseudo-Christian such as myself) cannot hate or be too cynical.
Psalm 1, in Joye's version, starts: "Blessed is the man which walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly; and standeth not in the way of sinners and sitteth not in the seat of the pestilent scorners".

Not a favourite of tabloid editors, I guess.

12 September 2011 at 01:57  
Blogger Kiwi said...

Dodo writes: "I hear this accusation a lot about President Obama's 'real religion'. What actual evidence is there for this assertion?"
For more than twenty years, Obama attended the racist Trinity United Church of Christ, founded and led by the virulent anti-Semite, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Black Nationalist and former Muslim. By no stretch of imagination could Trinity Church be regarded as mainstream Christian. Jeremiah Wright received his Masters degree from the University of Chicago's Divinity School on 'Islam in Africa'. Wright consistently preaches ideas that are fundamentally Black Muslim ideas.
Obama's Church of choice, up until recently, has more in common with a Mosque than with any conventional Church.

12 September 2011 at 03:19  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

John in Cheshire
Since neither/none of them actually exist at all.
How appropriate, really, in remembering a vile atrocity committed by religious believers, people read out things by ... religious believers.

Oops, is I think, the phrase.

Way of the Dodo
Please -this very fine verse was written a long time ago. It is good poetry.
That is ALL it is - and it is very good, just the same - I am not denigrating the beauty of verse.
Just the religious pottery.

12 September 2011 at 08:57  
Blogger bluedog said...

So, Mr G Tingey @ 08.57, where are the great atheist stories, songs and poems handed down over the generations? Where are the great atheist charities, renowned for their good works?

Will you be consistent and reject assistance from the Red Cross or St John Ambulance,should the occasion arise? To accept their help, even though it may save your life, would surely be evidence of a lack of integrity on your part.

Would you not wish to be remembered as going to your death true to your beliefs, an atheist gentleman to your bootstraps?

Or are you just another passenger, seeking the benefits of a civil society based on Christian principles but, needing to feel superior, holding us lesser mortals in contempt?

Is that your conceit?

12 September 2011 at 10:03  
Blogger Penn's Woods, USA said...

President Obama always reads from a teleprompter (not that other leaders do not)and his delivery seems impressive. Left on his own when he trying to answer questions at a press conference he sounds like a blithering idiot. He constantly makes stupid errors and innacurate quotes that would have made the media howl with mockery had President Bush 43 did the same. President Obama is totally in over his head as President of the USA. We still can't see his high school, college and university, or law school grades. I can say this the day after the 10th anniversary of 911 without disrecpecting the memory of those who died on that terrible day.

12 September 2011 at 14:36  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

The Red Cross are a secular organisation.
Their symbol is that of the flag of Switzerland, reversed.
You are making the exact same classifiacation error as the muslim nutters who attack Red Cross ambulances.

"A Shropshire Lad" ??
My favourite is the one that begins:
"From far, from Eve and Morning ...."
As for atheist chatities they are called things like, er, The Royal Society" or better still...
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.

12 September 2011 at 15:58  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

asdfsdfadf said...
"Obama is ... a Black Liberation Theologist or a Muslim---not a Christian."

Kiwi said ...
"For more than twenty years, Obama attended the racist Trinity United Church of Christ, founded and led by the virulent anti-Semite, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Black Nationalist and former Muslim. By no stretch of imagination could Trinity Church be regarded as mainstream Christian."

That's the evidence?! More like nasty, one sided propaganda.

Trinity United Church of Christ is a predominantly black church but it is affiliated with the United Church of Christ, a predominantly white Christian denomination.

In 2008 controversial excerpts of sermons by Jeremiah Wright were broadcast to discredit Barack Obama.

One needs only understand the church's early history and its relationship with the American civil rights movement and the murder of Martin Luther King, Jr. to appreciate some of these comments. The influx of radical black Muslim groups to the area where Trinity was based led this church to recontextualize Christianity through black liberation theology to counter the influence of radical black Muslim leaders, who taught that it was impossible to be both Black and Christian.

Have you taken the trouble to listen Obama's response when he addressed the subjects of racial tensions, white privilege, and race and inequality in the United States? He discussed black "anger," white "resentment," and other issues as he sought to explain Wright's controversial comments.

I don't necessarily share the views but there is a distinction between Islam and Black Liberation Theology.

12 September 2011 at 17:10  
Blogger asdfsdfadf said...


Here's an excerpt from a sermon by Obama's ostensibly Christian pastor.

Here's Obama accidentally telling George Stephanopolis he's a Muslim.

You are wither woefully uninformed, willfully ignorant or plain old naive.

Thanks for playing.

12 September 2011 at 18:45  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

asdfsdfadf said...

Is that it?

A slip of the tongue in 2008 when he was talking about his Christian faith? Three words, immediately corrected, when Obama was trying to criticise the smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

Do get real!

12 September 2011 at 19:03  
Blogger bluedog said...

Mr G Tingey @ 15.58 said, 'The Red Cross are a secular organisation.'

Setting aside the possibility that 'is' may be better grammar than 'are', you are only partly right. After all, the Cross is universally recognised as the symbol of Christianity. Why use it if you do not seek Christian association? I don't think the ICRC would stoop to 'passing off'.

Switzerland itself is profoundly Christian, think of the Swiss Guards at the Vatican.

Mr Tingey continued, 'As for atheist chatities they are called things like, er, The Royal Society" or better still...
The Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.'

My specific point was that as an atheist you might find yourself ethically challenged taking first aid from a Christian charity like St John Ambulance. Now for most of us, a call to 999 does not result in a mercy dash by a van load of botanists from Kew Gardens. On the other hand, if you are a vegetable (and you're not, are you?) that would be a perfectly satisfactory outcome.

13 September 2011 at 10:42  
Blogger English Viking said...


Obama is no more black than he is white; he's a mulatto.

The fact that he has a muslim father, a muslim grandfather, a muslim name and attended a muslim school, where he learn the koran, plus his ever constant digs at Christianity and Judaism plus his pro Islamic stance have led many, including me, to think him a muslim.

If one cares to look at a more precise version of the scriptures, say the KJV, then one will see that the rendering LORD has been deliberately changed in Obama's version to merely (with respect) God. The reason for this is, to me, obvious; where the KJV translates the personal name of God, the God of the Jews and the Christians, but NOT the god of the muslims - Jehovah - it ALWAYS renders it 'LORD' (in capitals). This distinguishes it from 'Lord' which is adonai in Hebrew and signifies ownership, of man, by God. A common or garden, human lord is merely 'lord'.

The 'prayer' in the form it appears as issued by the US gov contains nothing that a muslim could complain about. If it were a literal translation, containing the name Jehovah, they could not pray it.

Ecumenical claptrap mixed with wishy-washy liberalism.

Your Grace,

The exact words of the Lord God are never, ever immaterial.

As for the redacting of scripture, not by yourself I hasten to add, and the significance of the name changes, I am quite sure you would have immediately spotted this, and I find it strange you did not warn your flock of the consequences of tampering with the LORD's words.

...and he said unto the woman Yea, hath God said?

13 September 2011 at 19:34  
Blogger English Viking said...

Correction to the above;

'LORD' has been changed to 'Lord', not 'God'.

My typo makes no odds, the significance of the removal of Jehovah from the prayer is plain for all to see.

13 September 2011 at 19:42  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

English Viking

Using Jehovah would also have offended the Jews!

The typo referred to was "bough" which should have read "bow"!

Caught up with the weekend's football scores yet? I did post the most important ones on Saturday for you but you haven't been around since!

13 September 2011 at 20:22  
Blogger English Viking said...


Yeah, yeah, I saw the scores.

I'm afraid I fell in the sea at the weekend, so I haven't been around much, felt a bit rough.

The writing or pronouncing of the full name 'Jehovah' would offend the Jews, not the name itself. The prayer, as it stands, is fairly meaningless when the identity of the actual God being praised is deliberately removed.

I was a ware that the typo was bow/bough.

This proves two things:

1. Americans cannot spell correctly

2. A typo should always be corrected when it changes the meaning.

Is it possible that HG is concerned that if he critiques the White House or St Obama himself, just a little too much, he will be scrapped from the mailing list?

13 September 2011 at 21:13  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

English Viking

Fell in the sea! lol ...!

Sorry. Hope it was nothing too serious but Vikings are hardy folk. Must have been cold. How on earth did that happen?

14 September 2011 at 00:30  
Blogger English Viking said...


I'm afraid drink had been taken. Couple that with large quantities of ingested sea-water and near zero sea temps, I've felt a bit lousy recently.

All self inflicted, I have merely reaped that which I did sow.

14 September 2011 at 18:37  

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