Sunday, September 11, 2011

September 11th 2001 - the Archbishop of Canterbury remembers

17 Comments:

Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

May God Bless all the victims of this utterly evil act. May he welcome the dead into His arms and bring peace to those suffering the loss of their loved ones.

11 September 2011 at 10:57  
Blogger Johnny Rottenborough said...

[Qur’an 9:41] Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. This will be best for you, if you but knew it.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220. Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror.’

11 September 2011 at 11:47  
Blogger Dreadnaught said...

A truly vile act sanctioned by an equally vile, sense numbing ideology.

Thoughts today for the dead and the many more crippled and maimed for life.

11 September 2011 at 12:59  
Blogger Atlas shrugged said...

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11 September 2011 at 13:46  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

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11 September 2011 at 14:26  
Blogger Archbishop Cranmer said...

His Grace humbly requests a little respect on this sorrowful anniversary. If you cannot offer any, please remain silent. All conspiracy theories and random distractions will be summarily deleted.

11 September 2011 at 14:32  
Blogger Office of Inspector General said...

Your Grace

Your humanity comes through...

11 September 2011 at 14:35  
Blogger Abandon Ship! said...

Eloquent and moving; underlining our utter and absolute dependence on the mercy of God.

11 September 2011 at 16:50  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

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11 September 2011 at 17:22  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

Your Grace,

I hope you will permit me to publish the full text of Pope Bendict's letter to the Archbishop of New York on this sad day.

LETTER FROM POPE BENEDICT XVI ON SEPTEMBER 11TH TENTH ANNIVERSARY

"Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!

I join you in commending the thousands of victims to the infinite mercy of Almighty God and in asking our heavenly Father to continue to console those who mourn the loss of loved ones.

The tragedy of that day is compounded by the perpetrators' claim to be acting in God's name. Once again, it must be unequivocally stated that no circumstances can ever justify acts of terrorism. Every human life is precious in God's sight and no effort should be spared in the attempt to promote throughout the world a genuine respect for the inalienable rights and dignity of individuals and peoples everywhere.

The American people are to be commended for the courage and generosity that they showed in the rescue operations and for their resilience in moving forward with hope and confidence.

It is my fervent prayer that a firm commitment to justice and a global culture of solidarity will help rid the world of the grievances that so often give rise to acts of violence and will create the conditions for greater peace and prosperity, offering a brighter and more secure future.

With these sentiments, I extend my most affectionate greetings to you, your brother Bishops and all those entrusted to your pastoral care, and I gladly impart my Apostolic Blessing as a pledge of peace and serenity in the Lord."

Pope Benedict XVI

11 September 2011 at 17:33  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

"Dreadnaught"

"A truly vile act sanctioned by an equally vile, sense numbing ideology."

Yes, it's called, erm: RELIGION.

Lest we forget:
"Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet."

12 September 2011 at 08:59  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

G Tingey

Today is September 12th 2011, yet your quote dates from 1209. No true Christian would ruthlessly, indiscriminately engage in mass slaughter. Times change and understandings change, you need to consider the values and the historical context of past actions.

The Pope recently said:

"Every human life is precious in God's sight and no effort should be spared in the attempt to promote throughout the world a genuine respect for the inalienable rights and dignity of individuals and peoples everywhere."

You wouldn't take issue with this, now would you?

Fanatical Islamist's subscribe to an ideology that whilst 'religious' cannot be compared to modern day Christianity. The Inca's and Mayan's followed 'religions', that sanctioned ungodly acts.

Do address specific faith systems rather than lumping them all together.

12 September 2011 at 14:39  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

Way of the Dodo.
A true christian did just that, unfortunately.
"No-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
I'm currently reading an history of the 30 years war. Uggg.

If times and understandings change, and they do.
Then why do yours NOT do so?

Oh, modern-day christianity, as exemplified by someone referred to in the later blog-comments: Ann Coulter.
Or the really christian church on my street-corner, preaching lies and intolerance, and thoroughly hated by every inhabitant, irrespective of our race or religion or absence thereof.....
Or the US christian dominionists?

Nice try, but no banana.

12 September 2011 at 16:03  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

G Tingey

The Inquisition - now when was that exactly? It's good to read history to learn from the past rather than living in the past!

You ask: "If times and nderstandings change, and they do. Then why do yours NOT do so?" Just what views are referring to?

As for the other 'examples' you cite, again I don't know what you're talking about. How could I?

" ... the really christian church on my street-corner, preaching lies and intolerance, and thoroughly hated by every inhabitant, irrespective of our race or religion or absence thereof....."

Once again you need to be more specific. What "christian church", "lies" and what "intolence"?

As for Denominionists, well, like any other group they're entitled to press their cause within the rule of law. There can be no legitimate objection to them seeking to influence secular civil government. I doubt their ultimate goal of a nation governed by Christians, or a national government of conservative Christians is acheivable. Just why is this ambition any more unacceptable than seeking a secular society run by aetheists?

12 September 2011 at 16:43  
Blogger G. Tingey said...

They are called "Potters House" they were founded by a man now living in Arizona.
They belive in the inerrancy of the bible .....
They are scum.
TGheir leaders are also exploiters.
They do very nicely, and are all pink.
Most of their constituents are brown, and the pinkls are definitely social classes C2 and below.

Christians, sorry, religious leaders exploiting and blackmailing the vulnerable, as usual.

13 September 2011 at 08:43  
Blogger E.xtra S.ensory Blofeld + Tiddles said...

G Tingey 13 September 2011 08:43 enters stage right Act 2 scene 1

Back again, my angry atheist..Let me correct and tar outrageously as you have done.

"They are called "Communists", they were founded by a man who lived in London and denied God existed.
They believed in the inerrancy of his book and even wrote their own "Thoughts" .....
They are scum.
Their leaders are also exploiters.
They do very nicely, and are all pinko's.
Most of their constituents are an irrelevance to their system and social order but are brown in Africa and yellow in China, Korea etc and enjoy putting down 'their own', *and the pinkls are definitely social classes C2 and below*.(* = Gibberish, my dear Squealer)

Atheists, sorry, humanist leaders exploiting and blackmailing the vulnerable, as usual...Animal Farm anyone?
Is this correct, Squealer?

Nicely tarrred yes, now sing along "Beasts of England" everyone.

Beasts of England, Beasts of Ireland,
Beasts of every land and clime,
Hearken to my joyful tidings
Of the Golden future time.

Soon or late the day is coming,
Tyrant Man shall be o'erthrown,
And the fruitful fields of England
Shall be trod by beasts alone.

Rings shall vanish from our noses,
And the harness from our back,
Bit and spur shall rust forever,
Cruel whips no more shall crack.

Riches more than mind can picture,
Wheat and barley, oats and hay,
Clover, beans and mangel-wurzels
Shall be ours upon that day.

Bright will shine the fields of England,
Purer shall its waters be,
Sweeter yet shall blow its breezes
On the day that sets us free.

For that day we all must labour,
Though we die before it break;
Cows and horses, geese and turkeys,
All must toil for freedom's sake.

Beasts of England, Beasts of Ireland,
Beasts of every land and clime,
Hearken well, and spread my tidings
Of the Golden future time.

You are an atheist as was Mao and Stalin etc, they were evil scum, therefore it follows, you personally and your continued adherence to this humanist system makes you, deluded evil scum! FAIR?

Ernst S Blofeld, me angry old atheist geezer.

13 September 2011 at 13:08  
Blogger The Way of the Dodo said...

G Tingey

I do know a little about this particular church and some of the controversy associated with it. I'm afraid I get confused about the Pentecostal, Charismatic and Evangelical churches.

You seem to want to label all churches as the same and cease on unrpresentative examples as proving you're correct.

Who are you really trying to convince?

14 September 2011 at 00:45  

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